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Please continue this thread. It is an excellent source of information. Thanks to all for posting your knowledge - it is very helpful.
Not everyone is on Facebook - TMI (too much information), in my humble opinion!
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I still check the thread but have not had much time to post anything.
Lately I have been targeting cyst form Lyme. Not sure if it is being destroyed yet, but it is producing herx like reactions in my wife. That is about all the Lyme she has left. The active form is now easily destroyed but as long as the cyst form is allowed to live, it converts to active form every so often.
When I am more certain what is happening I certainly will post it here. It is the last problem I have to over come, and with any luck I will.
Cindy is doing well on all accounts. I just want a permanent cure now. I can easy keep her well with occasional treatment, but we need a cure and that means eliminating cyst form.
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New on this thread. Have heard lots on rife but not read up on it or tried. I did erchonia cold laser two weeks ago and herxed bad afterwards. Couldn't do anything for four days. The past 10 days have been better but still very sick and running a fever in the afternoons. Was wondering if those of you who rife run fevers.
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Are the rife treatment numbers given throughout this thread interchangeable among different rife machine models? Thanks.
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For the most part the frequencies are interchangeable.
Fevers and swollen glands can certainly be part of the herx. Especially if you have a lot of bacteria that is killed at one time.
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after I mentioned using a fake account we had a John Smith join with no picture so it can be done.
I hope this thread continues also and intend to share things in the future here.
I have learned some good things off the FB page such as new freq. to work with for various pathogens. Very active group.
There is a wealth of info in this thread also...all 61 pages of it.
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Rife frequency treatments are worth the effort of learning for anyone with an illness caused by one or more pathogens.
From my experience it can eliminate some pathogens that are currently impossible to eliminate using any mainstream method.
Another reason is that if you suspect a certain pathogen you can simply treat it and see if it gives you results. You don't have to have a positive test, an approval for a drug treatment etc.
Without getting into Lyme and coinfections treatment, I have resolved burning stomach pain (H-Pylori).
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If any one would like to sell there Rife machine or post any other alternative treatment and maybe help some one else out, please feel free to post it on https://www.facebook.com/groups/rifinglyme/
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Are there any rifers in central NC? I just wondered if there was anyone who would be willing to share before I try to raise money for a rife machine?
I really want to buy one but would like to try it first.
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Just an update on the experimental cyst form treatment.
I am using Char Boehm's seventh DNA frequency by itself at a higher harmonic.
I have treated my wife three times, the last treatment was yesterday.
Two or three days after treatment she gets cold like symptoms. By the response you would say she caught a cold virus.
We will see if the third treatment brings the same results. One thing I noticed is she felt it less with every treatment. She felt the treatment a lot the first time, and not at all the last time. For whatever reason, she always feels treatments that hit a target. It is why I can test these frequencies with a high degree of accuracy.
If she cannot feel the frequency, it means the target pathogen has been reduced substantially. Not necessarily eliminated completely but much less of it.
I am encouraged by this, but still early on into the treatment.
Dan
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Hi Dan, thanks for the info. Sounds like the treatment is encouraging so that is great to hear.
Had a couple of quick questions
The Char Boehm frequencies need to be purchased right?
Do you think this is the first frequency you have come across that might be treating cyst form?
Thanks!
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Hello Lymeswimmer.
I think there may be more frequencies in the 24 DNA frequencies for Lyme that would affect cyst form.
There was a couple in the first group that she could feel, but the seventh always hit hardest. I only need one good frequency to get rid of it, so I try to sort through unneeded frequencies, and reduce the treatments to the essentials.
Not only for our own benefit, but to help others remove Lyme and co-infections in the least amount of time.
To break it down into the simplest treatment program it would be as follows:
612 & 2016 for active Lyme. This is for the most common form of Lyme. If it works, you likely need no other frequencies to bring the active form down to a minimum.
Bart 832 Hz. You may need to also use Cumanda or antibiotics to help get rid of Bart. DNA frequencies may help also. Not positive on that part.
We needed Cumanda to get rid of it totally. The two treatments seem to compliment each other.
I did not sort through the frequencies for Babesia unfortunately. Use all the CAFL frequencies until all symptoms are gone, and treat for another month after that. The DNA frequencies might help also. I was using these also the last go around with Babs.
At some point it is a good idea to run the Rife/Peters Lyme sweep of your machine is able to. This hits most all pathogens, but only for a short time. It can mop up unknown pathogens and kill some of the less durable ones.
Use Magnesium, Fish or Krill Oil, Ginger & Turmeric to help protect the liver and reduce inflammation and for the other various benefits these provide. There likely are other good or better supplements you can use also. This is a minimal list.
Yes, the DNA frequencies cost money, but not much. The money supports her ground breaking work so it goes to a good cause.
If the DNA frequency treatment for cyst form pans out, I will also be adding that to the list. It will take a longer time to determine what it is doing. Looks good so far, but that is really more speculation than anything else, at this point.
I have not found any other viable way to treat cyst form. I have not tried most other methods either. I like to stick with what I know best, unless it cannot do the job. I am not married to any particular treatment method, but it has to be practical, relatively safe, and effective.
Dan
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Thanks Dan - great info in your post - appreciate it. Have been working to isolate individual frequencies - 2016 is the first one that is given a response which is exciting.
I am eager to start working through others.
Thanks again.
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2016 is the best single frequency I ever used for Lyme. When it does not work then you have to consider the possibility of a different strain.
If it works for you, stick with it. You will drop the load of active Lyme over time.
Good luck.
Dan
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Can a decent Rife setup be had for less than $300?
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Not any I am aware of.
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I recently bought a BCX Ultra rife machine. Been using it for about 2 weeks.. Last night I did some Babesia and parasite (blood) frequencies.. about 2 hours later my stomach starts itching and I notice 3 red dots. Anybody else have this happen? Is this a herx or did I just wake them up and **** them off?
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Hi everyone here,
I know of two people who have used a Beam Ray and cured their cancer.
Has anyone used this type with success for lyme/coinfections? Or are there more effective machines for our issues?
thanks
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If the spots do not reappear doing the same treatment over again, I would say you killed whatever caused the spots.
Not many Beam Ray users out there that post regularly. The machine is good enough, from what I have heard, but not any better than most other plasma tube machines.
Dan
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Hello To jlf2012 I tried answering your question via message but your mailbox is full . I will try again or let me know when.
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Dan. Remember all those research papers and the antidotes I dug up a couple years back that have us the 2016 number and we all tried it. I wish they had kept those pages going but they didn't as people were researching and posting there results and the data gathered and explained. You would be perfect to keep going or start such a page and data set forward . But its amazing to look back too and it's the old theories and research that can be the best ones to not forget or leave behind Hope your work on cyst form works and they can end up gone forever ! Thank you for all you do ! Blessings. D
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I am officially staring the protocol I listed
I have numbness in my feet up to mid calf and it gets better sometimes and worse others and I believe its this bug On my nerves and I am hoping it's not damage from living with The disease so long.
Anyway. I will rife using all theses and using foot plates With wet cloths and my ray tubes under my arms I use BCX ultra and want to focus on feet. Reminds me of days I treat toenail fungus which by the way is the best cure I the world and actually works amazingly !
Here again is my protocol I made this up myself and it is nit from any source so I can not say its been developed is tested. That's for me I guess. Ivermectin has been my best tool medicine wise for Protomyxzoa. Therefore I researched what ivermectin treats via literature and it makes sense to rife for those to get closest to this new bug.
Protomyxzoa Rheumatica (Fry Bug)
Here are the number sets based ivermectin treatment
You can run general parasites numbers too Threadworms Roundworms
But I am just running the list above of 8 strings.
We will see I have not been rifing fir actual treatment in a good long time .not consistently anyway. I have been focusing on diet this year and reducing medications and detoxing and dental! My body is its cleanest it's been in all if the 13 years since I got ill.! Detox detox detox. Can't stress enough
I will be running my protocol of Detox Lymph Liver Kidney as always before and after my sessions. This makes my sessions more successful as it stimulates the organs and helps move the things out that rife is attacking.
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That 2016 Hz frequency was huge for me. It still is one if the best single Lyme frequency I have used.
The work goes on at the Rifing Lyme Facebook site. I have too many irons in the fire to take on any more right now.
I am working with two other people on the potential cyst form frequency. It will take time to tease out whether it kills cysts or not, but it is the last hurdle to elimination of Lyme instead of controlling it. That makes it worth the effort.
When we think we have the results, we will see that it is posted here.
I hope your new protocol works well.
Dan
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I was reviewing some of the previous pages and the Rife/Peters Lyme sweep is mentioned quite a bit. Where can I find this sweep program and does it include Bart and Babesia?
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What machine do you have?
Dan
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The default carrier is 44660. I believe all defaults on this machine are editable.
Also if you have Lyme, Bartonella and Babs what is the general philosophy when treating all 3.
Is it better to hit one at a time or best to hit them all with a sweep.
Or is it just an personal decision based on symptoms/what is giving you the most trouble..
Bartonella and Lyme seem to bother me the most.
Thks for the help as I am new to rife.
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783 Hz would be the target frequency using the 44,600 carrier frequency. I personally would use a higher carrier that is closer to the range of some of Rife's carrier frequencies.
If you use the lower carrier, sweep about 50 Hz on both sides of the 783Hz frequency.
Using the optional 1.6 MHz carrier for your machine, my sideband calculator gives 22,600 as the frequency for the original Rife Syphilis frequency.
A decent sweep would be 100 to 200 Hz on both sides of the higher 22,600 Hz Syphilis frequency.
The sweep is based off of this Syphilis frequency. The sweep is in case there is variation from the two organisms. I have found the Syphilis frequency quite accurate when used for Lyme, but I am using a tube based carrier device so the carrier wobbles a bit, which provides a small involuntary sweep.
I would use 832 Hz for Bartonella.
It is probably better to knock the Lyme down some before you concentrate too much on coinfections. That way you do not stress the body out so much. However, there are no hard and fast rules on how to go about it.
I should also note that the original Rife frequencies work by the interaction of the carrier frequency and the second frequency. Each need to be matched for it to work. The ones I gave you are matched for each other. Other non-Rife frequencies are based on one frequency and the carrier is just used for penetration.
The 832 Hz frequency for Bart is a single type frequency. The carrier frequency does not matter for this.
I would use gating, or pulsing is the term the BCX people use. 50% duty cycle and a gating frequency of 100 Hz or so.
Good luck.
Dan
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- Q: PACEMAKER. How FAR AWAY must someone with a pacemaker be if there is a person in the home using a rife machine?
New here, though not to Lyme. I got it about 20 years ago, was diagnosed in 2008, treated with a year of antibiotics, and really did feel cured. Fast forward to this past winter....problems with pituitary and adrenal function (what function?) lead my LLMD to send blood to Advanced Labs, where it was cultured POS for BB. Brain fog has returned. Really, I had two good years.
He's trying to get IV Rocephin approved by insurance for neurolyme, encephalopathy.
Oh, I already get IVIG for the neuropathy, and it has helped.
I'm thinking I've had IVs before, (2000) and while I felt great while on the Rocephin, I got sick as soon as it stopped, so I'm looking for something out of the box to add.
Already takes lots of supplements for adrenal support, mitochondrial support, etc.
I'm looking at autonomic nervous testing (dr Klinghart's technique) coupled with "laser detox" (am I really going to do this crazy sounding thing? I think, yes).
So I'm thinking one week of laser detox, then the IV, but maybe combined with Rife. I am totally new to the world of crazy options, but these are new ideas for hope.
What are thoughts about combining Rife and antibiotics? Which Rife? Why? Does it sound right to combine both, or just try the Rife and see what happens?
Any reasoned opinion on this unreasonable disease and the reasonable options we have to lick it welcomed. i am looking for a plan that offers me more hope for killing this bacteria for good than 3 months of IV antibiotics.
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Can someone tell me the best frequencies to use w/a doug coil? I've tried 432 and running 306 now. Does it make a difference if it is neuro? thanks
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I'm a Beam Ray user. I've owned my machine since '03. It's the best money I've spent on this lyme & co in 15 yrs but.....
I'm not using the "cured" word or remission word yet. I'm still fighting the good fight with rife.
Lyme bacteria load is way down. I was a abx failure and felt like I was dying a slow death with abx protocol.
I wasn't detoxing either during those years of abx. I wasn't detox aware of it's importance.
Then I had 2 more embedded Lone Star ticks in '05 that gave one heck of a load of bartonella & no telling what else.
Big set back. I'm a tick, flea, mites, spider magnet. Beam Ray has done great things for me but I'm still trying to fight bart.
Recently the babesia I only obvisiously had in the early first year, the has changed in the last year or so. I would bet money I have one of the babesia bugs.
I can't rife for bart and babs daily like is recommended by many. My body can't tolerate it.
Anybody wanting more info on Beam Ray Rife feel free to private message me on this thread. Beam Ray is big bucks and if you have the money IMO it's a good investment. I use it to treat colds, flu, my husband ailments etc etc.
There are good rife machines much cheaper. But Beam Ray is powerful machine.
Pam
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Ive been using rife too, right now a ProWave loaned to me, along with Colloidal Silver and high dosages of enzymes, and LDM-100.
I've been having my blood checked by dark field live blood analysis. On Oct 4 I had approx. 4 lyme cysts per photo. On Nov. 27 no cysts or lyme spirochetes noted anywhere... but other problems showed up that I will discuss on my own thread later after I get it sorted out.
The doctor felt the progress was excellent and that the other issues would eventually pass.
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Keebler, thank you so much for reposting my question about rife and defibrillator. I did rife after doing some research on it and decided to go ahead with it. Never got a definite yes to do it but what helped me to decide to was someone else had rifed with their spouse in their house and there wasn't a problem. I am using the rife less, only every two weeks and 20 feet away with door shut. People might say it is not worth the risk and I still am torn about doing it. Makes me feel guilty but my husband said I just needed to go ahead with the rife.
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What are thoughts about combining Rife and antibiotics? Which Rife? Why? Does it sound right to combine both, or just try the Rife and see what happens?
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I would do antibiotics with Rife. I see no reason not too. Just don't let the herxs get too out of hand. Im finding coffee enema's to be helpful for that.
Im using colloidal silver, enzymes and rife. After 7 weeks of treatment they couldnt see any spirochetes or cysts. I intend to keep up the protocol for at least ...well, Im not sure, maybe 5 or 6 months to be sure I got every last one of them. When my new Rife machine comes next week I'll start focusing on bart or babs. Ive heard that Lyme only needs to be rifed once a week due to their life cycle but Im not accepting that until I have some solid evidence.. so for now I hit them every day.
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I am curious about the 2016 frequency as I have gone through most of the list. I have not tried 2016, I have a doug coil machine but I don't know how to dial up the combination on the switches to use this frequency as it is not on the selection list provided with this machine. Can someone that has done this please indulge me and walk me through it. Thank you
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I found the combination at the Doug webpage. They have a calculator to get the switches correct for the frequency you want to run. For those who are interested the switches are:G,H,J,N
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Hi. Just wanted to remind people to try to take your biofilm busters within an hour prior to rife. This has made a big difference esp if you feel your plateauing .
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This article from 8-2013 On biofilms and questions of ultrasound and such to break up biofilm. Interesting read. Comments pose questions about rife
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See I need to take notes and look at biofilm stuff and get the freqs for trying to end the cycle.
Thanks Dan for bumping the rife threads up.
Looking forward to learning the latest. Thanks springshowers.
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Has anyone used a BCX-411 computerized ray tube machine? I'm going to be renting one for a bit to see what happens.
The guy who makes this machine here claims it is more powerful and treats the whole body vs. the GB4000 which he claims cannot get into the bone marrow.
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Well, one of the people who has worked with frequencies for various applications including Rife's method of using them for eliminating pathogens thinks the GB-4000 with the MOPA is the best out there today.
He is not selling anything, and believes there is room for improvement in the method in general.
I am not knocking the BCX as it is a good device, but I do not think the claim he is making is credible.
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