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Yes, please keep us updated Gary! You are still in my prayers and I'm so glad some prayers are being answered.
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Dr. K and Dr. J talk about the importance of treating the whole person (such as: body, mind and spirit). These links are thought provoking.
cfs, hhv6, mycobacterium, hsv1, cmv, pirovirus, and Epstein Barr virus.... digestive system
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street129, Gary is doing better and today is his best day yet. We are looking forward to seeing how tomorrow goes.
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Gary, if you are feeling good, then great! I know one of Dr. J's herbal concoction has cats claw in it. It made me herx so bad I thought I was literally dying. And he didn't warn me about it either. So, just be careful about the doses on the herbs. He had me start with 3 droppers a day, which is about 30 drops each time. He also gave me curcumin which I believe is for pain. Im not a believer in the ionic foot baths...what Im curious about is if you take your feet out, does the water still turn colors? Seems like the yucky stuff is from the battery (or whatever that thing in the water is). But I did believe in the ST-8 and the vibe machine.
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Hi Gary, I remember hearing of Dr. J right away when I started coming to the Lyme forums in '06. I did a few of his detoxing products, that seemed to work well.
It is funny he sort of fell to the back of my mind as time went on. I read his book in '06.
I knew a woman who Dr. J helped get well and she could NOT say enough great things about him. She told me many stories of him bringing back people from the brink of death.
He is a God-send for many. Please keep us posted on your progress. Your wife and I have "talked" through pm so please tell her to keep me posted, this sounds very promising.
And Yes, I believe in prayer, in fact it is the only thing I KNOW works for certain :-) -I will be praying for you.
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Gary, if you are feeling good, then great! I know one of Dr. J's herbal concoction has cats claw in it. It made me herx so bad I thought I was literally dying. And he didn't warn me about it either. So, just be careful about the doses on the herbs. He had me start with 3 droppers a day, which is about 30 drops each time. He also gave me curcumin which I believe is for pain. Im not a believer in the ionic foot baths...what Im curious about is if you take your feet out, does the water still turn colors? Seems like the yucky stuff is from the battery (or whatever that thing in the water is). But I did believe in the ST-8 and the vibe machine.
I thought Dr. J had stopped using cat's claw in his remedies, but maybe not. I mentiones cat's claw to him when I was at the Hansa Center in early 2009 and I thought he had done away with that herbal.
I'm not sure what I believe about the foot bath. The scientific evidence against it has much more firm ground to stand on. However, the people that make ionics foot baths don't skirt around the fact that the water itself is going to turn colors. For myself, I witnessed the colors in the water turn different each day with the same water and same charger. My first few days definitely generated more gunk than the days that followed.
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Starting on page 10, it goes into detail about the colors in the water and they don't hide the fact that the water itself is going to create a lot of the colors.
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quote:Originally posted by Brandimc: Gary, if you are feeling good, then great! I know one of Dr. J's herbal concoction has cats claw in it. It made me herx so bad I thought I was literally dying. And he didn't warn me about it either. So, just be careful about the doses on the herbs. He had me start with 3 droppers a day, which is about 30 drops each time. He also gave me curcumin which I believe is for pain. Im not a believer in the ionic foot baths...what Im curious about is if you take your feet out, does the water still turn colors? Seems like the yucky stuff is from the battery (or whatever that thing in the water is). But I did believe in the ST-8 and the vibe machine.
Brandi, he hasn't mentioned cat's claw to me as of yet. Nothings been said about curcumin either, so far anyway. As Ott said, maybe he's no longer using this. I'll ask him about it tomorrow.
I just started reading about the ionic foot bath controversy yesterday. Interesting. I'm going to do some more research on this tonight. Yeah, after having your feet in the tub for 30 minutes it changes colors.
But what fascinates me is, not so much the color changes, it's the gunk and substances that comes show up in the water. Anyway, I will do some homework on this tonight and ask Dr. J about this tomorrow.
Dr J no longer does the Vibe. He said that the Vibe belonged to another doctor in his office who is no longer with him. Not sure if he's going to get another one or not. Will ask.
Brandi, if I'm feeling up to it tonight, can I call you and talk with you?
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Brandimc and ott70, here's a company that claims there ionic foot bath cleanser is the "real deal" http://www.aquachionline.com/ . Take a look at it and tell me what you think about it.
By the way, let's move this conversation about foot baths over on this recent thread that was started on this topic. I don't want to see this thread become about foot baths. : )
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Hello everyone,
SUNDAY, 1/17: Gary's best day since we've been here, and his best day in a long, long time. His energy was good and we were out and about ALL day.
The homeopathic remedy he's been taking right before he eats meals has worked. He is no longer nauseated plus he has an appetite! That is saying a lot, since he's been so sick and nauseated the past six months that he's lost about 75 pounds. (His GI told us if he kept losing weight that he'd put Gary in the hospital and put in a feeding tube. That was just one more thing that motivated us to look for an alternative way for Gary to be treated.)
Twenty minutes before he eats meals, he takes his homeopathic remedies (by dropper). These remedies provide support to Gary's vital organs. Gary also takes Microbojen which provides the body with the specific informational frequencies needed to overcome and control microbes. (Gary's BRS testing showed, at this time, his body would benefit more from this formula than Borrelogen or Lymogen.) All of these remedies and formulas that Gary is taking, work together to support the body so that it can begin doing what God designed the body to do--naturally heal itself.
In addition, each day the doctor performs BRS testing, and after getting the results he does various treatments (from laser, to magnet, to essential oils, etc.--more on that another time).
Gary continues to have these treatments (I'll get more specific on what these do next time I post) : ST-8 Lymphatic Drainage Therapy, Ion-Cleanse Detoxifying Footbaths (also once on his hands), Mustard foot bath (once so far), Infrared Sauna (once so far), Lux Electronic Gem Treatment (which in the past has focused on his vital organs and today focused on his stomach and brain), Infrared mat therapy, Massage with essential oils.
To say that Dr. J focuses on the WHOLE PERSON is definitely accurate--he focuses on the body, mind, and spirit (spirit--he leaves that up to the individual to decide). He does believe for optimum health that treating the whole person is ideal (much like Dr. K and others have come to realize) in order to see recovery.
Originally Gary and I assumed this meant a holistic approach but that's not the case. Also it's not New Age. Dr. J is a Christian, but like Gary shared, "Dr. J doesn't 'preach it'". Since Dr. J has had Lyme and thought he was going to die--he knows exactly what Lyme patients are going through. At 6'7" he is the picture of health, and a walking "billboard" that a person really can recover!
MONDAY, 1/18: Gary had another good day. Almost as good as Sunday. After his treatments we went to Starbucks, then to the health food store to pick up our dinner. We were in the hotel room the rest of the night, both busy on our laptops until after 11 PM.
It amazes me that, except for one day, Gary's not even been taking naps. The past year or two he has been taking naps everyday; and in the past month or so, many days he was taking a morning and afternoon nap. It's wonderful to see his energy level improving.
Gary and I are "grasping" more and more the concept that everything has frequencies as we consider everything is made of atoms. Atoms are energy. It even makes me wonder if "this energy thing" is somehow related to that sense we get about PEOPLE at times when we sense a person is negative, or positive, or evil, or sad, etc. or when we sense a person "zaps our energy"?
Also it makes me wonder about PLACES. I remember visiting the Alamo in Texas about ten years ago. I couldn't quite remember my history (later looked it up) but there was such a sad, sorrowful atmosphere, and I knew something really bad happened there. It was heavy in the air to me. It is the same atmosphere I sense when we go to the the Oklahoma City bombing site. You know what I mean?
Also Dr. J believes in a "sense of knowing" (what Dr. K calls "intuition") as being important. In hindsight, Gary and I both wish we had paid more attention to that "gut feeling"; if so, there are numerous treatments (ie: steroid shots in the spine and even surgeries) that Gary would have never had. Can you relate?
Being here in such a positive and caring environment really does make a difference. Hearing words of affirmation and "love" makes me realize all the more how much our words and thoughts really do have an impact on ourselves and others. Who would have guessed?!
Words really do make a difference, a huge difference (as I've talked about previously). Even what we think about--if our mind is focused on death that too has an impact. Recognizing "miracles along the healing path" and being thankful and verbalizing that is so important, too.
As I look back Gary was doing really bad and I thought things couldn't get worse, but after that GI doctor's comment--things did get worse and Gary went downhill even more rapidly. Above he shares that he thought it would be his last Christmas with the family. (The Bible says, "Life and death are in the power of the tongue" meaning our words and science has, once again, proven the word of God true.)
TODAY, 1/19, 8:00 AM: Gary is on his laptop answering emails and watching the news. I just asked Gary if he wanted to share something with you all. He said, "Yes. The past couple of days I've had more energy. I've been feeling more emotionally stable and mentally my mind has been stable and more clear. While the abdominal pain has improved it is not yet where I want it to be (this is different from the stomach/nauseousness). I am hoping for more progress today and throughout the week as I continue treatments. Plus I look forward to continuing on Dr. J's protocol from home."
BRANDI: Sorry we didn't call you last night, the time just got away from us. We were both busy on our laptops and when we decided to call, can't believe it was almost 11 PM, obviously too late. Just wanted to let you know that it wasn't because Gary wasn't feeling well that he didn't call.
LYMEBYTES quoting you above, "And Yes, I believe in prayer, in fact it is the only thing I KNOW works for certain :-) -I will be praying for you." LOL--that is for sure. Thanks for including your link with your posts. I did go to your website and my heart goes out to you, your husband and son. Lyme Disease is hideous. My prayers are with you and your family for God's leading and healing touch.
Everyone who is praying, thank you so much. God still answers prayer! And thank you all for your positive words, well wishes and continued prayers. They are making the difference in Gary's treatment.
I am new to lymenet - came on here to research and consider all the treatments - hoping to learn from so many who have been through so much...
I had just talked to the Hansa Clinic last week. Kind, respectful, hopeful and professional people are all I encountered. They follow up not by telling me what I have to do, but hoping that they helped me know better what will work for me.
Thank you, and your wife, for taking the time to share your honest thoughts, hopes, questions and experience - it is a gift to many of us. After talking to Hansa I thought...all my life I believed these ideas in concept, perhaps now I will have to see if I really trust my life to them. Then I remember that courage is not steppping out without fear, but in spite of fear - once we have done the best we can to prepare - seems somewhat tied to faith there.
I will be praying that you will recieve even more than you are giving, and that you return home on a clear path to the wellness which we are designed for.
May peace be within you.. Maryam
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OT about Cher, when I google she went to the Leonardis Klinik in Germany.
About homeopathic and alternative medicine; are you advised to avoid cell phones and wireless and frequencies like that? That was a big issue in Germany with the bionic treatment.
It was said that often treatment failed because patients had stayed at the hotel with all that wireless and using cell phones.
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quote:Originally posted by gwb: Dr J no longer does the Vibe. He said that the Vibe belonged to another doctor in his office who is no longer with him. Not sure if he's going to get another one or not. Will ask.
Gary
That's a bummer about the vibe machine. It must have been Dr. Samantha's. I can't verify if the vibe machine made a positive impact on my detox protocol, but I can tell you that machine gave me the most sensation out of the other treatments. I did a two minute vibe one day and felt like I had a caffiene buzz the rest of the evening. They toned down me treatments on that machine after that, although I handled it better the second time out there.
Just for sake of information, please let us know if Dr. J is going to get another one if you get a chance to ask.
Keep up the good work and positive thinking!!
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quote:Originally posted by n.northernlights: OT about Cher, when I google she went to the Leonardis Klinik in Germany.
About homeopathic and alternative medicine; are you advised to avoid cell phones and wireless and frequencies like that? That was a big issue in Germany with the bionic treatment.
It was said that often treatment failed because patients had stayed at the hotel with all that wireless and using cell phones.
Yes, the Hansa Center does recommend keeping EMF exposure to a minimum. They recommend also buying some EMF inhibitors such as a small chip you attach to your cell phone or laptop or a pendant you can wear as a necklace.
I believe the company I purchased from is called BioPro.
Most people stay at the clinic for a couple/few weeks, right?
What do they do when they return home?
Would you still be under the clinics care in treating your lyme? Or do you go back to your llmd?
Gary, after your stay, will you continue with the supplements, etc. recommended at the clinic?
Will you go back to the clinic at all for detox or treatments?
Sorry for so many questions!
Keep feeling better, Gary!
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"It even makes me wonder if "this energy thing" is somehow related to that sense we get about PEOPLE at times when we sense a person is negative, or positive, or evil, or sad, etc. or when we sense a person "zaps our energy"?"
exactly exactly EXACTLY !
It is great that you can sense this ! IME most "logical thinkers" cannot feel this and are essentially clueless about this.
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Gary, you have been in my prayers and I'm so glad to hear some of our prayers have been answered. Please continue to keep us updated. I always look for your post.
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Gary and Rhonda,
This thread is truly a wonderful gift to all of us here.
Thank you so much for your generosity and willingness to share your experiences.
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Good Morning:
Start of the day and Gary is feeling good. Whooo hooo.
Ott77 and Brandimc commented regarding Dr. J's use of Cat's Claw. Gary asked him yesterday and Dr. J, as always, was more than willing to answer.
Following is not an exact quote verbatim (I didn't have a tape recorder going--Smile):
Out of all the bottles of homeopathics, herbs, and supplements in Dr. J's office only one has Cat's Claw in it (and it's not even the first ingredient). When he uses this herb, he prefers the whole cat's claw herb (as opposed to TOA free). He then went on to share that recovery from Lyme Disease is not "just about one ingredient". For a person to recover it requires following the doctor's COMPLETE protocol that each individual has been led to follow.
So there it is from the doctor's mouth.
His answer really does make sense. If a protocol requires an individual to do A, B, and C plus X, Y and Z; yet the individual only does B, will that person recover?
I am reading Dr. J's most recent book on Lyme, "Beating Lyme Disease" subtitled, "Living The Good Life in Spite of Lyme" (second edition and I notice the copyright is 2008). The book is helping me to get a better "grasp" of his protocol and those treatments Gary is having (which I keep saying I'm going to explain how they're helping). This is all so new to us, mind boggling really (in a good way), and I need to think about even how to clearly communicate this part of the protocol. Hopefully tonight I'll be ready to give it a go.
More later as it's time to get ready.
Blessings to all, Rhonda
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Tracy says, .... Prayers for the Lyme Community - every day at 6 p.m. Pacific Time and 9 p.m. Eastern Time - just take a few moments to say a prayer wherever you are....
You are a person "after my own heart". Prayer really does make a difference, maybe THE difference.
I have to learn how to add those different "smiley faces". I like that one "kissy faces".
Prayers to all, Rhonda
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Gary, first I want to say WOW. I'm so happy that
you are feeling better. HOPE is a wonderful
thing, isn't it?!?! I know that you have had a
really rough go of this disease, but your faith
and determination have led you to this doctor
and hopefully your recovery. You are an
inspiration, and so is your wife. What a
wonderful woman! I have been ill since June of
last year. It has been very difficult to say
the least. But I have learned so much from
lymenet, I can't begin to tell you. You have no
obligation to tell any of us about your
treatment, or your physician, and the ups and
downs that you experience. But you do. And I
am very thankful to you for that. Thank you for
giving me HOPE. I am praying for you and your
continued recovery.
Best wishes to you and Rhonda.
Take care, Limeaid
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When it comes to prayers, the more the merrier! Hope you and others can join in, Rhonda.
(To use the little smiley-Emoticons, click on the Full Reply Form; the Emoticons are there and if you click on one of them, symbols representing that Emoticon will appear in your text wherever your cursor was located. Try it - you'll see what I mean after you do it once.)
Looking forward to the next installment of good news from you and Gary.
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Limeaid, So sorry you have been ill since June of last year. Praying you make some really good strides in the days ahead and get well soon.
Gary and I both know what you mean "very difficult to say the least" as I too had Lyme Disease. I share about it under the Lymenet link on the "Success Stories"
It is amazing how God is able to work everything out for good. After I was bit by the tick and had that life altering experience--we realized Gary had been suffering with the same symptoms I had. So while I was being treated, he was checked for Lyme Disease and was positive. IF I had never had Lyme, perhaps Gary wouldn't even be around now. Amazing!
Thank you for your kind and encouraging comments to us. And your prayers really do mean so much too.
Curious about your login name "Limeaid". You seem like such a positive person, did you pick that name because of that saying, "When life gives you Lyme make Limeaid?"
Have a blessed day, Rhonda
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Truthfinder, prayers--yes, the more the merrier. I prayed last night per your "Prayers for the Lyme Community" at ____ PM.
OK, "Instant Graemlins" here goes Oh, wow! Life can be so easy.
Thank you and have a fun day, Rhonda
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Glad to have you aboard at prayer time, Rhonda.
Graemlin abuse is not a recognized disorder, as far as I know. Enjoy.
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Just a quick note to say, I don't know who that lady (daisyrlb) is who's posting all those crazy graemlims on her posts. I have no idea who she is. Please don't get the idea we're related or anything. ; )
Gary
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Gary - that is early stage graemlin addiction.
Some fingers twitch when they get near a computer.
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Sorry this is such a long post. Good thing I'm going to break it up into Part 1 and Part 2. This is part 1.
I keep saying that I'm going to share about Gary's treatments--how they work, plus share about BRS--and I really want to do this. However, not being familiar with the subject matter or the scientific jargon makes it a challenge.
As I try to wrap my mind around it, a word picture comes to my mind. Since I'm just a "lay person" I'm not sure that the word picture is totally accurate (I'm sure it's not), but it is helping me to grasp these very difficult concepts better and I trust this helps you too. (For those in the know on this subject, please bear with me--even help us out. In addition, my word picture may change in the future as I understand these difficult concepts more clearly.
It is a fascinating subject and chapter 8 in Dr. J's book is where he explains it. Let me back up and say, I'm not yet finished with his book, but I'm finding it a straight forward, easy to understand read, with the exception of chapter 8.
Chapter 8 was first published in the peer-review scientific journal "Subtle Energies and Energy Medicine" in 2006 and titled, "Illuminated Physiology and the Medical Uses of Light." The Science and Application of BioResonance Scanning (TM) and Neurophotonic Therapy (TM). (TM = Trademark)
Hello--you still with me?
As I said, I'm going to break this down into two posts. This first post is on how the body functions. The second post, later, will focus on BRS specifically--as I figure out the wording.
My Word Picture:
The human body is like a country--a large country--such as the United States of America (USA).
The USA has a governing body in Washington DC, plus governing bodies in states and cities.
There are hospitals, businesses, churches, libraries, restaurants, garbage collecting and garbage dumping systems and on and on.
There is an almost unlimited highway system, criss crossing the USA from one end of the country to the other and in every direction.
The USA depends on electricity (energy) for EVERYTHING! In the cities/in the rural areas, in the remote areas, schools, hospitals, our homes, our laptops, GPSs, cell phones, microwave, TV, refrigerator, street lights, the list is ENDLESS. When the electricity goes off, when a transformer goes down, when a fuse blows in the house, it messes things up really bad. We had a terrible ice storm in Oklahoma 2008 and electricity was out all over the state (just a few pockets of populated areas weren't effected.) No heat, no cooking, no lights, no nothing. Businesses and restaurants closed down. Traffic lights out. You know what I mean. It lasted two weeks and longer in some areas.
And get this, here at the hotel where we are staying--one night the phones went out; another night the electricity went out (whew, fortunately our laptops automatically go to battery and we didn't lose anything we were typing. The electricity was back on within ten minutes but it effected the internet and there was no internet until the next day.
(This is off the point--but last Monday, in the middle of the night I heard water dripping, it woke me up. Sure enough water was dripping from upstairs through the ceiling and onto the floor. The phone wasn't working (again) so I raced down to the front desk. The gal went upstairs to the unit above us...and to make a long story short, ice had cracked some pipe. When the people above us used the water upstairs it leaked out of the pipe. OK my detour is over and back to my Word Picture.)
I remember two big companies that experienced problems in 2009--Microsoft Word and T-mobile (I'm sure there were others). Oh, yeah, I remember Google and also Facebook were offline not too long ago. It effected thousands and thousands, perhaps millions of people.
So my whole point is our body is like the United States of America. Our bodies are so vast and complicated, with so many systems, and so much going on, and how everything is connected, and how one thing effects other things. Can be for the good or can be for the bad. (Maybe "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas", but what happens in Washington DC effects all of us.)
And that is my picture of how it is with our human body!
So KEEPING THE ABOVE WORD PICTURE IN MIND read the rest of my explanation and Word Picture.
Light has no color. You may remember learning that in school. The colors we see are actually different lengths of lightwaves (photons). In school I remember the prism experiment: when the light comes in and goes through the prism, the prism changes the light into various lengths of lightwaves, and we see the colors in the rainbow it makes.
Everything is made of atoms. Everything! Including the human body. And guess what the glue is that holds all these atoms together? It's light! "Light is the glue that holds all the atomic particles and molecules together." (OK that last sentence is a direct quote from Dr. J's book.) Bottom line atoms are energy (remember the atom bomb?). Where there is energy there is frequencies. Hold onto that thought as you continue reading.
We cannot see atoms with the naked eye.
Our body is made up of atoms all joined together by the light "glue"*. It is like a light "freeway"--really more like a "super highway" and it's EVERYWHERE in our body (operating with all the complexities of our USA). It is creating messages, transmitting messages, and receiving information simultaneously (and my guess is at the speed of light literally).
When the light (energy/frequencies) "super highway" is traveling through our body with no interruptions--it's great, Kind of like speeding along at 5 PM, in the middle of "rush hour traffic", but there aren't yet any wrecks, no bridges down, or other problems so the "rush hour traffic" is moving along just fine. But when there is a traffic jam--traffic gets backed up rather quickly, or when there is a wreck, well, we know what happens.
And this is the same idea with the body. When there is a light "traffic jam" it causes a "backup", or when there is a light "wreck" it causes problems. When this happens--LIKE WHEN A PERSON GETS LYME DISEASE--we see the results when the LIGHT IS NOT FLOWING LIKE IT IS SUPPOSE TO. When this happens it causes frequencies that can be picked up by BRS testing.
That is enough for now. Whew. To be continued.
You all have a blessed day. Gary is doing good again today. We only have today and tomorrow left, then we'll be on our way back home. So, with his much clearer mind, he is organizing his questions for Dr. J today. Gary is a VERY curious guy and Dr. J is a VERY patient doctor.
You all have a blessed day, Rhonda
PS: Truly we are "fearfully (awesomely) and wonderfully made" Psalm 139:14.
* Dr. J calls this network of the light in the body "this fiber optic network, otherwise known as the body's crystalline matrix". (I know I'm not really doing justice to Dr. J's chapter 8 scientific explanation which he presented to his peers, but it is the best illustration at this time, with the understanding that I have, that I could come up with.)
Click on the underlined links in the above to read about it (and see a picture of it).
I heard about it from an accupuncturist who went to the conference mentioned (anti-aging) and learned about it. (He was the one who did Rife in FL.)
I'm a little concerned about hyperthermia (-> electrolyte loss)and potential harm to beneficial bacteria too. Addressing both maybe a very important adjunct.
P.S. Rhonda, I really liked your analogy! I'm exploring balancing energy fields from several different perspectives...accupuncture meridians, chakras (meditation via listening to very specific music), etc. Fascinating!
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Thanks for the "word picture". It is a good example
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Marnie and massman, Thank you for your comments regarding my analogy/word picture. Coming from you two, WOW!
Marnie says, "I'm exploring balancing energy fields from several different perspectives...accupuncture meridians, chakras (meditation via listening to very specific music), etc. Fascinating!" I agree, it is fascinating!
As I understand (and I use that word "understand" loosely) about BRS, I am just catching a "glimmer" of what all this means in regards to the healing of the body; not to mention I'm seeing it used on Gary, and he is not the same VERY sick person that arrived to Dr. J's center in KS nine days ago. To me it is miraculous. I thank God for leading us here.
I just asked Gary if he'd like to make a comment before I post this and he said, "Yes. Physically I am 75% improvement in most areas and 50% improved in the other areas. Plus my energy level, emotions, and mental clarity is amazingly improved."
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Good Morning ,
Gary and I are packing up for home. Two weeks has gone by fast.
Hard to believe today is Gary's last day of treatment at the Center, at least for now. I know there will be continued follow-up from home as Gary continues the protocol, and perhaps more trips to Kansas in the future. We'll keep you posted.
It is amazing the difference that two weeks can make. You know how sick Gary has been, especially the last two or three years. Nothing in the past has helped him get better and he was steadily going down hill. He arrived here one man and he is leaving another!
I do look forward to sharing more about our experience here, about the remedies, therapies and treatments. Gary said it was an "eye opening experience". That is for sure. We've learned so much. (That reminds me, Part 2 of that post above is still "cooking" in my mind. )
Gary would have posted more but since he has been feeling better, we were out and about doing stuff. Plus Wednesday, when he should have been posting to you, he was out getting the car washed, etc. those kinds of guy things. Then yesterday he just "had to" take the car to get the oil changed before we leave today. I am thrilled to see the changes.
It is wonderful to have HOPE again. It is wonderful to have my GARY back again.
Thank you, again, for your encouragement and prayers.
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The part of the brain that can read is not working this am, but I will be back when it is working to read this thread.
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What an encouraging post Rhonda. Thank you and Gary for keeping us posted on his progress. It's so nice to hear that you have your Gary back again.
I'll be praying that he keeps improving. Sounds like he is on the right road. What a great wife you are and he is so fortunate to have you.
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Saphhire, When we came to the Center we had no idea what twists and turns this thread might hold. The future is in God's hands, and whose hands are better than God's?! (Jeremiah 29:11)
Thanks for your prayers.
That last comment about "great wife" I'm going to print that out and hang it on his bathroom mirror.
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kam, praying for you. You are so special and a blessing to all of us on Lymenet. Thank you for never, ever giving up. What an inspiration you are!
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Glad to hear that your trip went well and you had a positive experience exploring an alternative method to getting healthy! Have a safe trip home and keep us updated of your thoughts about the trip as you mull all of the info you been exposed to.
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Great News.> SO glad for you ..!!
Good Luck on your trip home and keep it all going !!
I so agree with all the talk about energy and electricity and how our bodies are made up of it and are affected by it.
A great energy healer I love Adam the Dream Healer is in college studying to prove this theory as he has been given a special gift to do energy healing on people and affects their health and bodies. I have been blessed in the past to go see him three times and each time was amazed at my progress. He has been not coming to the US as much as he is in Canada but I sure need to plan another trip sometime soon.
I truely do have belief in this area on many levels. Not just testing machines or therapies but on people who have this gift that God Blessed them with. WE all have the ability if we practice but some are blessed with much more powerful and obvious gifts.
I know this is not well accepted in the medical field or even in patient fields
But our bodies are all energy down to the basic levels.
Regarding the electronic interferrences >. TV Computers Phones etc..
Our electricity went out last night for a few hours and It felt amazing and calm and so nice I can not describe how great it was.
It really has me now wondering more and more about the affects of our environment. I live in the city. Its tough to get away from it. But when everything was out last night.. Wow. that rarely happens so it sure was an eye opener...
Things to think about and consider.. So much..to consider and think about..
Good Luck..
Let us know how you are when you get home and how you plan to keep the improvements going forward.
Blessings..
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springshowers: Thanks for your encouragement. You are right about the effects of the environment and there is even scientific proof. Gary and I have been talking about that since being here (EMF "stuff").
Also, we've been talking about that "calm" you mention too. In fact, just tonight we were sitting in Starbucks, still in Wichita, talking about that exact thing.
Here's what we were planning on doing today.
This morning: HURRY to Dr. J's clinic (which is next door to the hotel). When Gary begins his treatments I would go back to the hotel and ask for a late check out. Then I would HURRY and finish packing --remember we came for two weeks with food, vitamins, supplements, even our own "healthy" pans, etc, basically everything but the kitchen sink. Gary and I talked about CUTTING his treatments short today, eating a QUICK lunch, so that we could HURRY back to the hotel, load up the car, and get on the road in order to arrive home before dark. Whoa!
This whole AMERICAN LIFESTYLE OF BUSY-NESS is not a part of Dr. J's protocol as he focuses on the whole person approach--Body, Mind and Spirit--stress doesn't aid in the healing process. Hello?!
We decided to stay one more night in the hotel. Gary went ahead with the full day of treatments. We'll leave in the morning after we wake up, pack up--no pressure. There's nothing we have to rush home to.
And guess what? Gary insisted I get the IonCleanse Footbath and massage if they were able to get me in. It was nice. Ahhhhhhhh!
But I have to tell you seeing all that gunk come out of my feet, especially the black flecks--which is cellular stuff/electronic waves that bombard us--yuck; and I wear a headset on my job and have for years. Not good--Yikes!
I guess that's all from me tonight. I've been exposed to enough of those "harmful energy waves" (via my laptop) for one night.
Praying you have a "calm" night and healing, restful sleep.
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ott77, Oh, before I turn off my laptop, nice to hear from you. Yes, we will share more. Really looking forward to it. Truly so much has happened in such a short time. Alternative--who would have ever guessed?
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Saturday after we arrived back in OKC, we stopped at Starbucks just to talk and hang out. It is nice to be back home.
Gary plans to post within the next couple of days. I've been busy unpacking, and Gary's been busy going through mail and answering emails. Gary is doing good-- still!
I'm reading Dr. J's book slowly (taking it all in) and a picture comes to my mind about how the body, mind and spirit all connect. I've not seen a drawing in Dr. J's book yet (there might be one though). I have seen the drawing Dr. K uses--the triangle (kind of like the food triangle with Physical Body on the bottom, then Energy Body, Mental, Intuition and Spirit on the top).
My picture, as I understand Dr. J's concept of body, mind, spirit is like a berry pie--for example--strawberry, blueberry and raspberry. The berries are all mixed together and touching each other. What effects one berry effects the other berries and ultimately the whole pie.
I'll share more about the treatments later this week.
Have a great week, Rhonda
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quote:Originally posted by daisyrlb: It is wonderful to have HOPE again. It is wonderful to have my GARY back again.
That is so awesome!!!
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Lymetoo, It is awesome! Gary had been waking up (for years) hoping "it" was all just a bad dream--then he would move to try to get out of bed. No it wasn't a dream and Gary really was in a lot of pain and very sick.
Today, he woke up and it wasn't just a good dream, Gary really feels better.
PS: I've watched your tutu girls before, but this is the first time I realize there was more to the dance (thus the oops)
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Hello Everyone,
I apologize for not being more faithful in posting since we left the clinic last Friday. I wanted you to know that it isn't because I haven't been feeling good. The "problem" is that I HAVE been feeling good.
Since I've been feeling so much better, I've been busy trying to get caught up on so many things I've fallen behind on the past two weeks. Actually, I've been trying to get caught up on--not just what I've gotten behind on in the past two weeks, but what I've gotten behind on since I went on that downward spiral six months ago after having steroid shots.
I took those steroid shots for severe leg pain I've been suffering with for several years. Sad thing is, not only did the steroid shots make me deathly sick, they didn't bring any relief to the leg pain.
Anyway, since we've arrived home I admit I was concerned that the progress I made at the clinic would be temporary and not last long. I've gotten so used to living in pain and being so sick the past six months that my mind hasn't yet fully caught up with the reality that my body is actually feeling better. I kept waiting to revert back to how I was feeling prior to the treatments and, so far, that hasn't happened.
I've been suffering with pain for fifteen years, but the past six months (after the steroid shots) I felt like I was dying, so much so, that I was sure this past Christmas was my last Christmas with my family and grandchildren. I truly felt that death was knocking on my door and my time on earth was soon coming to an end. However, since I've been feeling better I need to work on ridding my mind of all the negativism that I woke up to every morning.
I dreaded getting up in the morning knowing that I would wake in excruciating pain, rapid heart beats, nausea, depression, etc. Every morning I asked myself, "was I having a nightmare or is this really happening to me?" Of course, it didn't take long after getting up out of bed to realize that it wasn't a nightmare. It was a real life experience I woke up to everyday--worse than a nightmare.
Now I wake up wondering if I'm still going to feel as good as I did yesterday and the day before. I have to reprogram my mind and not expect that I'm going to feel like cra* today like I had become accustomed to. It's been hard to do because waking up feeling good is not something I'm used to yet. I need to get my mind caught up with my body. : )
I sleep good at night and wake up feeling more alert, plus my emotions and mental outlook has improved dramatically. I don't feel nauseated in the mornings anymore and the abdominal pain that I've suffered so much with has gone down almost 75%, which is a huge improvement.
I still wake up with arthritis pain in my shoulders, but the pain in my hips has gone down quite a bit. After I get up and move around the arthritis pain subsides within an hour or less and isn't so bad for the rest of the day.
My energy level has increased so much that I've only taken two naps in the past 18 days. Prior to treatment I took naps every afternoon. Plus for the past month or so, before treatment, I was going back to bed in the morning because I was so exhausted and had no energy whatsoever. That's something I never did before until a month or so prior to treatment.
Since I've arrived back home I've been busy working in my office trying to get caught up on my email, phone and mail correspondence. I've been doing things around the house, going shopping and doing errands, things that I couldn't do before on my own.
Even yesterday I was out from 7 in the morning until 7 in the evening going to appointments, doing errands, shopping, etc. This morning I worked all morning in my office and this afternoon I was out again doing more errands.
I had to go to the store to stock up on things for a winter storm that is to hit Oklahoma tomorrow (I wanted to make sure we have everything we need at home "just in case"). This is something that would have been impossible for me to do six months ago, or even one year ago.
I know I'm overdoing it, and I need to put a stop to that, or I'm going to pay the price for it. I need to slow down and rest when I need to, but it's been hard to do because I'm so excited that I can finally do these things again. I'm amazed at how much I can do and get accomplished during the day now without being totally exhausted before noon.
Today, after a full day of going, going, going I'm pretty tired tonight. I realize I need to slow down and discipline myself to rest whether I want to or not.
Physically, I continue to be 50-75% improved, and that's just in just 2-1/2 weeks time. My mental attitude and emotional health is much improved as I already mentioned. My thinking is much clearer than before going to the clinic. I'm still forgetful occasionally, and have some brain fog at times, but nothing like it used to be.
I believe the improvements I've made at the clinic will continue as time goes by.
And perhaps the best thing that happened for me at the clinic--I have hope again! Hope is a terrible thing to lose. I never even thought I would ever say this, but I have hope that I will beat this disease.
I may never be 100% well, but I'm confident that the progress I've made is just the beginning and there's more to come. It's possible there will be some lasting effects (from lyme disease) that I will have to live with, since I've had this disease for so many years; however, if this is as good as it gets--I could live like this and be very happy. That's how much better I feel today than I did three weeks ago. But like I said, I'm optimistic I will be feeling even better in time.
It's amazing that after years of taking almost every vitamin and supplement on the market I was still getting sicker and sicker. Maybe the supplements were doing me some good and helping me to some extent, I'm sure they were. But my health continued to deteriorate to the point that I could hardly do anything.
When I first arrived at the clinic Dr. J took me off all of the supplements I had brought with me. Two bags full. He tested my body to see what my body needed. He put me on specific homeopatics, herbals and supplements that are custom designed for my body's needs.
Before leaving the clinic he retested my supplements (the ones that I had brought with me) and he put me back on some of them. He retested (BRS) me to determine which ones he believed would benefit me and eliminated those that were no longer needed.
And in case you're wondering, no, he didn't try to push his brand of supplements on me. He did suggest I add one of the digestive enzymes brands he recommended because I can take less of them than I'm taking with the brand I had been using. He also recommended I continue taking the nattokinase capsules I was taking and added another systemic proteolytic enzyme that he felt would benefit me (my body tested positive for).
Several people have emailed or pm'd me asking what products he has me on. I will share this with you in my next post, but will do so somewhat reluctantly because the remedies he put together for me may not necessarily be the right remedies for you.
Yes, you can purchase these homeopathic and herbal remedies from his website, and quite possibly get well from taking them. I believe you'd have a lot more success if you went to his clinic for the BRS testing, and other testing (and his treatments) so that he can provide you with the protocol to fit your individual needs. This is important for you to keep in mind as you read about the various remedies he has me on. What works for me may not work as effectively for you.
If you have any questions about anything I've shared, feel free to ask.
Right now I'm tired and am about ready for bed.
Thanks again for all of you who supported me with your encouraging words and prayed for me during my treatments.
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