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Well, this has been a doozy. Hope everyone is doing okay.
I finally emptied the potent Clark tincture early this morning, last dose finished, and with relief threw it in the garbage, hoping to never see it again.
Not doing well- inflamed intestines, bottom- I can only liken it to the parasites (which I'm seeing) are angry- there is anger in my body.
After much research, pondering, intuition, my next step is mimosa pudica from Hopkins, and I ordered 2 different Biopure ozonated
oils (tinctures with added parasites herbs) as my next step/level. Might also add Neem.
Meanwhile, trying to detox and heal- doubled my curcumin, and just today, did castor oil packs for the first time
on my stomach/liver = heaven. Really relaxing, on my 2nd one! Took a teaspoon of virgin olive oil after, more release and evidence.
So there you have it. What a very difficult last 3 moon phases! Also doing Natural Calm drinks (mag citrate) buffered C, milk thistle, lots of probiotics. Diet is very careful. Lots of water.
It's a battle.
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Hi surprise,
Sounds like we had a similar experience.
Castor oil packs are my go-to for comfort. If I feel particularly toxic (ie: cranky), a castor oil pack normally sorts me out.
I'm back to 1/2 tsp S & C daily and everything seems good. It seems like my body CRAVES the S & C. I make my S & C, lime and stevia every morning, and have to tell myself to slow down... drinking it throughout the day.
Also craving garlic pills. No kidding. My mind/body releases some kind of 'feel-good' when I see them. Almost like how I used to feel when I would see chocolate. haha. I hope everyone else survived this moon.
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I've been doing Herb Pharm's intestinal defense, and haven't noticed a big change. Had problems with burnt orange colored stools, which from my research on the web could mean parasites, and with a smallish bm this am, I had a clear goo come out. Gross. Not sure what this is, but wondering if I should add salt/c, or wait a bit. Posts: 482 | From Oregon | Registered: Feb 2011
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I would consider adding salt/c starting with a small dose of 1/4tsp each a day. The three most important herbs against parasites are WORMWOOD, BLACK WALNUT HULL AND CLOVES.
Also warm water enemas are very helpful to release any dead and dying toxins and parasites from the lower colon.
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Right, they really only communicate by email. But they do answer your questions.
There may be a way around the apple cider with malic acid...check up on it.
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I've been taking the VER with some diotomateous earth & an essential oil combo of thyme, oregano & cloves. I add some charcoal caps, chlorophyl, or clay if I get too toxic. I dowse everything so I take them on & off & in different dosages.
It's going pretty well with this. I'm still detoxing but I think it's doing something beneficial.
For some reason, I couldn't get into the salt/C. I'm not opposed to it but it didn't seem to be the right thing for me right now. I think the VER is good. It is powerful - so don't take it lightly just because it is homeopathic.
FYI -
Stomach Bug Symptoms, Treatment: Over 275 Diagnosed With Mystery Virus In 8 States According To CDC
The "mystery bug" isn't a virus at all. It's a parasite. It boggles the mind as to why they consistently hide that there are parasites affecting people.
I caught the tail end of this on the news here & they said it had something to do with fruit...
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Stomach Bug Symptoms, Treatment: Over 275 Diagnosed With Mystery Virus In 8 States According To CDC
More than 275 people throughout eight states have been infected with a stomach bug since last month, but health officials have not found the virus' origin.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the infection has been reported in Iowa, Nebraska, Texas, Wisconsin, Georgia, Connecticut and New Jersey, reports USA Today.
Most of the illnesses occurred from mid-June to early July. However, the CDC says it isn't clear whether the cases are all linked.
Cyclospora, the one-celled parasite that causes symptoms commonly associated with a viral stomach bug, is customary in tropical regions like Latin America, not the United States, states the CDC.
Unlike most stomach viruses that go away within a few days, the illness can last longer. Its symptoms include watery diarrhea, cramps, bloating, fatigue and weight loss.
The illness, which has sent at least 10 people to the hospital, is not spread person-to-person, but rather when people ingest foods or water contaminated with feces.
"CDC really has their hands full with this one," said Dr. Richard Besser, chief health medical correspondent for ABC News. "It's hard to pick up so there's probably a lot more of this disease out there."
The disease is curable with an antibiotic. Dr. Besser suggested alerting your doctor if you think you have it because physicians can do specific tests and prescribe the treatment that will rid your body of the illness.
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PS - be careful with the gall bladder flushes. They are a bit harsh. I got very ill from doing that. There are less invasive ways to clear out your gall bladder.
I have been a big Doors fan since way back. Did anyone see that Ray Manzarek died recently? He died of bile duct cancer... Bet it was from parasites. Just an intuition. His wife is Japanese & he lived in CA - bet he ate alot of sushi... Like I said - just an intuition.
RIP.
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Great article! Thanks for posting it.
The advice for people to go to their docs for abx... Good luck...
What the medical establishment says it does, and what it actually does...
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I am doing the Ver by Desert Bio also, but using it with the PE-1 as a nosode. I just started 2 weeks ago so too soon to notice any improvement yet. I test everything with my Biotensor first.
Ray Manzarek was actually a neighbor of mine. He lived about 10 doors down the road. Very sad, he was extremely nice.
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Wow... Interesting about Manzarek being you neighbor! I didn't hear about his passing until recently. I would have thought it would have been a bigger thing in the media but it wasn't. I think he died in May.
I read he went to a fancy cancer clinic in Germany but I didn't see that he had any "alternative" treatments. I looked up the clinic but it seemed pretty standard - modern & progressive but standard. I like to read about what the "rich & famous" do for illness. Might get some ideas...
I was going to use the VER with my LightWorks but I dowsed it & it said to just take it orally. I saw results in a few days. Everyone is different, though.
In my case, I seem to need to take breaks from treatment every few days. I think my body needs to figure out how to heal itself or maybe I just need time to process the dead toxins? I'm not sure why this is. I do think the dowsing is pretty accurate. Not 100% but it's been really helpful & correct on so many occasions.
I'm not too sure on how to use infrared light in regards to parasites. I don't know if it kills them or invigorates them. When I first tried it - it made things worse but I didn't know I had parasites back then. I'm a bit standoffish with infrared light. It's great for aches & pains, hormone regulation, headaches, & alot of things but I don't know about parasite treatment.
I have a LightWorks which is not as powerful as the PE1. birdie67 - You may want to check it to see if you need to take the VER orally, as well. Just a suggestion. I'd be curious to see what you get.
I'm going to check it for myself again, too. I can use it with the LightWorks rather than the PE1.
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It was in our local paper about Ray Manzarek. He was a quiet man. His house is nice but not super fancy. I live in the county of our town and some of our neighbor's didn't even know he lived here.
There have been a few flowers left at his gate but otherwise you would never even know he has lived here for so long.
When I check with my biotensor about the Ver, it says that it will not eradicate the parasites but will help to kill them. I am also doing salt/c and Parastroy. To be honest, I'm still getting comfortable with the biotensor. I think it's pretty accurate, but sometimes I question it and wonder if my thoughts control the answers.
I have roundworms, which are SO very stubborn to kill. I have done rounds and rounds of prescriptions and also Humaworm and others with no success. Hoping this will work.
Thanks for the suggestion of checking the Ver orally. I will do that tonight and let you know.
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Here are the symptoms according to Dr. F hardcopy hand-out. Symptoms: Cold hands and feet, often clammy, Poor capillary refill, skin color changes including pale, dusky, hyperemic (red), purple, mottled, HA, pain behind/in eyes, scalp sores, sinus congestion, PND, teeth pain, palpitations, SOB, air hunger, dry cough, episodic and periodic, abdominal pain, nausea, IBS, Bladder/pain dysfunction, interstitial cystitis, joint and muscle pain, weakness, twitches, profound fatigue, complete loss of aerobic exercise tolerance, sweats (night/day), chills, flushes, dizziness, insomnia, profound brain fog, poor balance, anxiety, panic, OCD, irritability, agitation, impulsivity, ADD, emotionality, hypercoagulability that has been associated with diseases such as CFS, Fibromyalgia, scleroderma, rheumatoid arthritis, Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, ALS, Parkinsons, Autism, COPD, and others.
Treat for worms like crazy before treating proto.
I will try to post some of the recommendation in a little more than a week as I will be traveling.
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CLOVES KILL PARASITE EGGS!! Got this info from Hulda Clark website and other parasite sites on the net. I use hanna kroeger capsules. The salt/c will also help kill the eggs.
It's an ongoing battle, but even after symptom free, Hulda Clark suggests maintenance FOREVER. If just one egg is left, the cycle will start all over again.
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mlg: 'treat worms like crazy before treating promo'
Who is saying this, and why? Because it is believed if one has protomyxzoa, they have other deep parasite infections, like roundworms, strongl, tapeworm, what?
And by treating 'worms like crazy' this will help clear protomyxzoa infection, easier to clear?
Does this mean 'the Dr.s now on board' (CA LLMD's) are now prescribing accurate dosing of Albendazole, biltricide and the rest?
Is this now what Dr. F is saying 'treat worms like crazy' ?
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Dr F is now saying to first treat worms. My LLMD is giving me accurate doses of Albendazole, Ivermectin, etc.
My LLMD said you should be detoxing with enemas or colonics when treating parasites.
From reading lyme conferene notes, I know that Dr. K said that in every biofilm he found worm DNA. Maybe they are the ones that create the thickest, greatest biofilm. You thin out the biofilm and then hit proto, etc,
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Well, it's good to hear Dr. F and other LLMD's coming around to treat the worms like crazy.
My 1st LLMD, after having me go through a $250 Zyto session and parasites came out on top (before Lyme, Bart)
was shocked, and actually asked if 'I'd been traveling' This was 2-3 years ago.
Because of that Zyto reading, I did get correct doses of Albendazole, Ivermectin- but only for 2 week rounds, done 3 times.
Interesting! Thanks!
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Thank you for posting the list of symptoms. This is actually very helpful since some of the symptoms associated with parasites are so weird. I actually get the mottled colored skin and teeth pain.
I have been hitting the parasites with different things the Nexus suppositories seem to really help on "that end"
Gael, this is a great thread Thank you. It is so hard to go through this and to read what others are experiencing and trying is so comforting.
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I agree with Sparkle re Manzarek; parasites love the bile duct. What is in Ver? I can't access the site. Is it alcohol based?
Mlg, aren't you supposed to up your fats on albenza? How are you doing this with proto?
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I think I need to slow down on treatment, and yet, deep into cleansing and don't know how.
I started Mimosa Pudica from Hopkins- not slowly, why of course not, 2 caps 2x a day- and biopure oils - along with the cats claw and Japanese knotwood I've been taking-
I am really expelling junk- parasites. Visible. Still! And now I seem obsessed- reading up on everything. My castor oil packs have also made an impact- suppressed emotional feelings coming up-
I don't know if any of this makes sense-not sleeping well- kids go back to school in 2 weeks, and while that means I can rest, I hope I am feeling better, but I need 'summer' to be over.
I am getting a reality check on how long this really could take- I thought I was done treating, honestly, last Feb.- went off everything.
I have more parasite protocol plans and products lined up - switch it up- it IS hard. . But it sure would be wonderful to fix my gut issues. Hanging onto that-
And, I'm holding on to hope that dispelling this mess, it will give me a better future, without Alzheimer's or cancer, so I can be around clear headed for my kids later on,
I really believe these parasites just soak up and expel toxins, infections, together, while taking nutrients, life force. Crazy. I wonder if I'm losing it, but, can't deny what I'm seeing and feeling.
Anyway, thanks- can't share this really with anyone else.
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Right on Surprise! That is good to know about the packs (I forgot about them). I'm going to do one tomorrow. I think treating parasites is a life long thing (just like it is for our pets).
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Well, after treating for parasites for a year, I finally passed an 8 inch worm tonight. I can't believe it took a year (lol)! Gael, you were so right. I added in salt/c & herbs and kept at it. Finally they are starting to come out. Whew hooo!
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Catgirl,
That's great news!! Are you saying that you JUST added salt/c and herbs, or you increased the salt/c dose?
I was on antiparasitic herbs for 6 mos, and didn't pass anything until I added salt/c, then all hell broke loose and they came pouring out of me.
Shouldn't take a year to see results if you go high enough on the salt/c. Slowly of course. But Like Dr. K. said at low doses you are just poking them.
The herbs were def killing them, but they wouldn't let go until I hit them with the salt. They couldn't hang on and I had a mass exodus for mos.
The combo of the herbs and salt/c packs quite a punch. Keep going and also add extra cloves (Hanna Kroeger) to kill the eggs. the salt kills the eggs also. Sooo rewarding when these things start to exit and you see what has been making you so sick.
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Thanks :-). I had a better day today.
I am going to add/try ornithine supplement at night- Hilda Clark and others recommend, for better sleep, as it helps clear amomonia from the brain,
amomonia being what the parasites expel- and can disrupt sleep. I also know I have 1 copy of A1298c (because my daughter has both copies)
and that gene can have trouble clearing amomonia as well.
Herb Pharm makes a clove tincture I picked up- the capsules gave me after taste too much- also started adding back in my pink salt in the morning.... but take my vitamin C at night.
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Thank you Gael!!!
I have taken salt/c by itself before during the past year, and on other days just the anti parasitic herbs, but lately have been doing both the same day. I think it's from including the salt/c with the herbs (same day) that is starting to make them let go. I know you've suggested this many times, but I guess I was afraid to try it. Not any more. Thank you so much for your tireless and unwavering support! :)
I am going to up my salt c, because I think I'm just poking them. I guess maybe 1/2 tsp instead of 1/4 two times a day. Boy, they really hate the salt!
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Yay! Love to hear about the worms getting evicted!
Very inspirational!
Once, after a colonoscopy, the gastroenterologist scolded me for not prepping...
I had followed his instructions to the letter-took the pico salax, ate only clear broth and lemon jello.
He didn't believe me.
At the time I thought he was a pompous donkey, but now I think that both him and I were right. I don't know how many feet are in the colon, the part they can check with the scope, but that's a fair amount of surface area... If violent purgative diareha didn't clear it out... Imagine how much surface are is in the large and especially the small intestine! Sounds like a metropolis for parasites to hide.
Way to go for getting rid of a big 'un!
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That is amazing Catgirl! I am glad you have persisted with this (thanks to Gael's encouragement and others here...) Do you feel any different physically? I know that emotionally, you must feel great!
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Thank you Greta and Dbpei!
I started passing some two weeks ago, but nothing as big as the one I passed last night. I've lost a few little worms here and there during the past year, but not much action otherwise. I have been feeling calmer the past couple of weeks as well. I'm not sure what this is from--maybe from getting rid of their toxins. The binders, coffee enemas and enzymes have all helped. Even ondamed.
I'm am thrilled to be progressing forward on this. I thought I was just going to be stuck with them, as I've read and been told that they just don't want to let go.
Wow, Greta, your gastro was a jackhole! There are six feet of colon to cover, so lots of places for them to hang onto with the turns and all.
I can't wait to up my salt/c this morning (I'm no longer chicken to do this)!
THANK YOU GAEL!! And thanks for reminding me about the cloves. I forget sometimes and go to bed, then take them in the middle of the night (not the best, but okay).
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More worms today. I took 1/2 tsp with C this morning and out they came. It's awesome how well it works! I did have headaches off and on today though. It amazes me how well salt/c cleans me out. I was able to do an enema with the whole bag (not split into two enemas). I feel better today too.
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Way to go Catgirl!! They can't stand the salt because it dehydrates them and puts them into osmotic shock.
Makes them run for the hills and find an exit. Remember if you start herxing too hard, wait until it calms down and then resume.
You might want to just do 1/2tsp per day and then increase 1/4tsp at a time per day. In other words, when you are ready to increase the dose, just do 1/2tsp in the morning and then 1/4tsp later.
Also drink extra water through the day to circulate the salt. Coconut water is also good to help balance electrolytes and keep you hydrated. I'm rootin for ya girl!! Keep moving those $#%^^#@*!!! out!
Gael
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im not doing salt c now...i used to and i used to see little white seed like things come out of my skin
this doesnt have anyting to do with the current discussion but i think its interesting
i just finished 5 days of high dose radiation...and now there are many little seed things coming out. it was a full moon too. but im not taking anything specific for parasites now
the radiation was not general...it was focused on one spot...but the seed things are coming out all over...and im not suggesting anyone get radiation to get rid of seed things!
i just thought it was interesting
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Thanks Gael! That is a great idea to do just 1/2 ts.p in am, and 1/4 in pm. You are so smart! :)
Ipkayak, wow I'm not surprised the radiation is helping to kill some bugs off. But then I remember when the roots of my teeth felt like pins and needles. I went to the dentist to get an xray and it stopped after that. They must hate radiation.
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Lpkayak-that IS interesting! Hmmm...
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i know a lot of people do the salt C protocol but has anyone ever done salt water enemas?
Would this potentially kill parasites as well?
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and what infections does the salt C actually hit?
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I think the anti-parasite protocol has to be a lifelong pursuit, unfortunately. When I first started on all of this, I thought it would be over fairly soon. It's pretty awful to go through it - especially at first. I don't think it ever ends, though.
I've improved but it comes & goes. I lived in a place with high amounts of dirty electricity & everything got worse. If we live in toxic environments - I think EMFs enhance the parasite growth.
Most places these days are getting more & more toxic - not to mention the food, air & water.
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Sparkle,
Thanks for posting this link. Very helpful. You are so right about the lifelong pursuit of antiparasitics.
Thinking of suggesting this formula to a friend of mine who I highly suspect is infected with parasites. Of course the docs can't figure out what's wrong.
Don't want to hit him over the head with something too strong to begin with as he has to function in the real world. Going to start him on some low dose salt/c and enzymes.
What do you think of this formula for an initial attack on parasites, or would it be too strong? Any of your valuable input would be welcome.
Gael
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Does anyone know what parasites make the scalp itch? My intestines feel fine but I seem to be on the last symptom of lyme which is fatigue (also itching head).
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Maybe it's yeast...
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Hi Gael-
I'm not sure about dosage for anyone but myself. It's hard to say with homeopathic remedies. I started off with herbs. I feel more experienced with herbs than homeopathics.
I don't think it can hurt to start off slow & ramp it up. I think the bottle says 10 drops 3x a day. I don't usually take that much. I take it on & off as per dowsing. I started slow & worked it up.
Some days it's on & others off - on the off days, I might take some detox stuff - charcoal, clay, chlorophyl, etc. I've been taking DE pretty often lately, too. I also take an essential oil combo of thyme, oregano & cloves occasionally.
Going through a die off would be scary to someone who doesn't know. It was very scary to me when it happened. It's can be awful. Especially if you are out driving around or commuting on mass transit. It's hard to find restrooms...
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Thanks sparkle, Slow and easy is usually the best way. About the restroom thing. I have a mental note of all the nice rest rooms in the city where I usually walk.
It can be hair raising when you get hit and don't know where to go. Thanks again, and as always, the best to you in your pursuit of getting rid of these invaders.
Gael
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@surprise from July 27. I heard from another forum who was a patient of dr s. Said that like 4 months ago he found the only connection between moregelos and Lyme was proto. He was treating his Morgellos patients with Amoxicillin and febendazole for at least 3-4 months. I don't know about the other Lyme doctors.
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In my case, I'm starting to think bile duct, gallbladder & liver need to be cleansed. I don't want to do the Hulda Clark cleanse with olive oil & grapefruit. It was too extreme last time I did it.
I passed a bunch of those Q-tip sized cotton ball looking things yesterday. I can't believe I'm still passing them. I don't know if they will ever go away completely. Sorry for the TMI factor - but my bowel movement was yellowish... indicating possible bile duct dysfunction.
They usually come out in a separate bowel movement - not the regular one from digesting food. I guess my body is expelling them. (?) Maybe it's "learning" to get rid of them from using the homeopathic remedy...?
I bet those suckers are in the gallbladder or bile duct! I also have right shoulder blade pain... All this anti-parasite work is so important these days. I'm sure so many illnesses are being caused by parasites.
Any suggestions about how to get them out of the liver, gallbladder or bile ducts?
I'm sure there are connections between Lyme & morgellons. I don't know if I'd want to go on a fat free diet as Dr. F suggests. Our body needs fats + it may not be enough to get rid of them.
Long term - which I think is what we may all need - I'd rather use herbs or supplements rather than drugs.
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Mlg, thanks- can't remember if I said this before, our 1st LLMD did all blood testing, but also offered a talented
Zyto practitioner reading- I did it, and parasites came out on top (#1 to treat) the LLMD was surprised, actually asked if I travelled (no). This was 2-3 years ago tho-
Anyway, that's how I got my first rounds of anti- parasite drugs. 2nd LLMD, we talked about protomyxzoa, my test didn't detect it,
only small biofilm- but then got Alinia, other parasite drugs just in case.
Long story short (too late!) still treating- the mimosa pudica I am liking right now- added neem oil, biopure rizol- etc. pink salt in a.m. C at night
Sparkle, I started doing castor oil packs - I swear that's clearing/ pulling from liver- I've been brave and taken teaspoon of oil after too (castor or olive)
Maybe pulling from gallbladder...
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Hi everybody.
I have been away from Lymenet for quite a while. I moved to a new place, and have just been dealing with a lot of issues outside of Lyme. Plus the fact that for a while, I thought I was almost done with this nonsense for good. I was feeling very good. I did have a few friends here, and I may have missed some PMs. So for those of you trying to contact me that got ignored, I'm sorry!
But it did not last unfortunately. Anyway, I've had enough. I want to start treating parasites. Unfortunately, I'm broke. Broker than ever. I cannot afford Dr. Zhang's protocol, or Dr. K's. Unless I use an "international" pharmacy. This is what I am currently considering. I have to do this. I'm on 3.5 years of abx. They've gotten me pretty far, but I don't think I'm going much further with them. If anything, they're starting to make it worse. I won't stop them abruptly, but I'd like to be off of them in a year or so. The amount I consume is just not healthy.
Can some of you parasite warriors help get me started? I want to do this right and get on with my life at some point. 4 years is too long to live this way. Basically, I know nothing about treating parasites. I have no money, so if I need expensive drugs it will have to be ordered from someplace outside of the country. Thanks everyone
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Most of the anti-parasite protocols that are supplements are fairly inexpensive. You just have to read about them & try one. Go slow & ramp it up over time. It's not easy going through this.
Any herbal combination of cloves, green, black walnut hulls & wormwood should work, initially. It does get more complicated as you try to figure out what parasite(s) is affecting you.
Some people like salt/C. It's not expensive at all really. I didn't care for it for myself right now but I may go back to it at a later time.
Parastroy is also very good.
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glm1111
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Parastroy
Humaworm
Hanna Kroeger Wormwood Combo
Super Digestaway by Soloray digestive enzymes (also antiparasitic)
Coconut Oil
Coconut Water
Salt/c (lymestrategies salt/c group for more info)
Just some of the antiparasitics you can try.
Like sparkle has suggested, you have to read and study and decide what's best for you. Persistence is KEY and can take several yrs to get rid of. Good Luck and keep us posted.
Gael
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I've used Coconut oil and parastroy. Neither provoked a reaction. I know Parastroy should be taken for many months. Coconut oil never got a herx from me, in fact it makes me feel good. I love the taste.
I'm leaning toward the heavies - Ivermectin alinia etc. right now, to be followed by an herbal protocol. I think Dr. K's approach is something like that. I say this because most of the herbs I've taken haven't had much of an effect on me. I can tolerate a whole lot of abx, so I figure why not use the big guns. My goal is to not take abx anymore, but I think these drugs could really help. The trick for me will be getting them.
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I added in salt/c & herbs and kept at it. Finally they are starting to come out. Whew hooo!![[woohoo]](graemlins/woohoo.gif)
I am glad you have persisted with this (thanks to Gael's encouragement and others here...) Do you feel any different physically? I know that emotionally, you must feel great!
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