kgg
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Thank you for posting this Phoiph. I too am grateful when they do mild hyperbaric oxygen treatment studies. We need more!
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"Mild Hyperbaric Oxygen: Mechanisms and Effects"
I haven't finished reading the article because I'm stuck on the figuring out the pressures. On unitconverters.net they say, 1 hPa = 0.0145037738 psi
So if I take the low end of the range quoted in the article of 1266hPa and multiply it by the above #, I get, 18.36psi, 4 times what we usually consider "mild" HBO.
Any comments?
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Hi Digby~
You have to factor in the natural pressure at sea level (1.0 atm). Our chambers only add an additional .3 atm.
So, our chamber gauges read approximately 4.2-4.4 psi because they are only measuring .3 atm. The other 1.0 atm (approximately 14.7 psi) is our natural atmospheric pressure at sea level.
The hPa ("hectopascals", a measurement of pressure) range included in the studies is 1266-1317 hPa.
The formula to convert hPa to atm (atmospheres):
hPa x 0.000987 = atm
So, 1266 hPa x 0.000987 = 1.249445 atm 1317 hPa x 0.000987 = 1.299778 atm
So, it is correct that 1266 hPa (at 18.36 psi) is in the range of mHBOT.
I am curious if they stated the inclusion of the 1 atm and I missed it, or if it is considered a standard and to include it when using hectopascals as the unit of measurement related to HBOT.
Sorry for nerding out.
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That makes us both nerds then, Digby
My understanding is that hPa readings are mostly used in meteorology and represent the absolute atmospheric pressure at that location, which means they would routinely include the 1.0 atm at sea level.
The article also references studies using regular HBOT (not mild) pressures defined as 2026 hPa to 3039 hPa. This would convert to approximately 2.0 to 3.0 ATA, which would be in line with regular HBOT therapy.
Since this article references a collection of studies, looking more closely at the individual studies might reveal the pressures measured in ATA rather than hPa to confirm.
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Nice, thanks Phoiph. I wish they would all use ata as the measurement and calculate it based on elevation as well.
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Yes, especially because ATA is the industry standard.
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Hyperbaric impacts a critical sugar Bb ( and my Cpn infection) absolutely need -R5P = Ribose 5 Phosphate. I recently posted 2 supplements that can do the same - block it. See my recent posts and Google: “hyperbaric R5P ribose”
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After a long hiatus from the chamber, I am once again doing 1 hour/day along with a temporary Keto diet. I'm hoping I'm not too old for this to work again. :^)
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Thanks Hiker53, I will do that. I’m so far removed from the Lyme world now I wouldn’t even know where to start.
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I have severe small fiber neuropathy. The main symptom is that my limbs fall asleep much more quickly than usual. When I sit or lie down, it seems the pressure causes a lack of oxygen to the nerves, which results in pain. My skin is sensitive and painful, as if it's covered in sand or has been skinned.
I have been using mild hyperbaric oxygen therapy (mHBOT) consistently every day for 4 months. Recently, I've noticed I might be improving. The pain when sitting or lying down has decreased, and sometimes I can even get immersed in my work (I have to keep working).
I usually do the mHBOT session every morning to prevent it from affecting my sleep. However, yesterday I had something to do in the morning and had to skip it. During the day, I felt the severe pain had come back. I made up for the session in the evening. After completing my session again this morning, the pain has once again dissipated during the day.I was shocked by how strongly my body reacted to skipping just one session yesterday. Did you ever notice such an immediate and significant increase in symptoms if you missed a day? I'm trying to understand why the effect seems to be so direct, rather than a slow, cumulative one.
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Welcome, Peter~
So sorry to hear about your SFN, those nerve symptoms are horrendous, as I well recall.
The good news is that you have only been doing mHBOT for 4 months, and you are already making great progress.
I couldn't tell you if I noticed an "immediate and significant" increase in symptoms after skipping one day, because I really didn't skip any days. However, you have already noticed more relief of symptoms than I experienced within 4 months' time.
Trust that the "slow, cumulative" changes ARE happening below the surface. It is just that you have not done enough sessions for those changes to become permanent yet. Keep going!
Currently, your "batteries" are not able to hold a charge. Over time, that capacity will increase, and ultimately your body's ability to "hold a charge" will become permanent, even without daily mHBOT.
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Thank you for your encouragement,Phoiph. I will stick to it.
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Great, Peter.
Keep us posted on your progress!
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Recent studies are not only finding benefit from mild hyperbaric, but from "Hyperbaric Air" (HBA) alone (i.e., mild hyperbaric without supplemental oxygen):
Hyperbaric air mobilizes stem cells in humans; a new perspective on the hormetic dose curve
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I haven't read the article yet. But I LOVE that they are doing so much more research on mild hyperbaric therapy. Thank you for posting.
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Kgg,
Me too! Finally we have dosing studies to back up what we already discovered years ago through experience.
Still, I appreciate all of those who took the leap of faith!
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Good morning everyone, its been awhile. Phoiph I see you are still doing such a great service to this community. I found this video very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mylh0x62kN8&list=PLpHo7jcAqSI8M4_3Bv1A0JJMPZkBp_5yo While this is an HBOT center the owner clearly states that the same combination would be fine in MBOT. My wife needs to get committed to MBOT if she wants to make progress. We also have a full red light bed, infrared sauna and a doctor that subscribes methylene blue. Not recommending anything but was interesting. Any thoughts welcome.
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Hi, jcarlnew! I am so appreciative that you started this thread years ago. Thank you.
I love Dr. Jason Sonners. I find his videos very helpful. As in this one, suggesting how and when to use these therapies.
You sound well set up to utilize these strategies.
In my opinion, people first starting out with mild hyperbaric oxygen therapy should not employ them until they are tolerating diving. Many are so debilitated that it has the potential of making them feel worse instead of better. Too much, too fast. And that would be incredibly discouraging. I could be wrong, just my opinion.
For those who have achieved an improved level of health and are doing mHBO for maintenance, then yes by all means use them.
I am glad you have a doctor who knows about methylene blue. I have seen FLCCC.net now IMA physicians warn against using methylene blue on your own. I think people think more is better. So they caution not using it without a trained person directing them. I have not read the book Dr. Sonners' brings up. Think I will.
Thanks for posting this!
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Hi jcarlnew~
Thank you for the kind words...AND for starting this thread over 12 years ago!
Interesting video, however, I agree with kgg, that "stacking" these three "potent" therapies would not be the ideal way to begin mHBOT for people who are chronically ill, fragile, and/or have detox issues.
Many people have to start very slowly with mHBOT alone, and work their way up, or they may experience set-backs.
As you know, I am the proverbial broken record on this subject..."low and slow wins the race", and "more is not always better" for this population.
In addition, starting many therapies at once makes it impossible to determine what is helping and what may be hindering.
Fortunately, mHBOT promotes the same healing benefits, and more.
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It is with great sadness that I share this memorial for my friend and neurologist/hyperbaric specialist, Dr. Carol Henricks, who passed on Oct 1, 2025.
I have referred to "my mHBOT/neuro friend" many times throughout this thread. Although I didn't meet her until after I became well with mHBOT, she was THE one who encouraged me and gave me the confidence to share my experience here.
She also referred many, many of her patients to me for guidance with home chambers, and I will be forever grateful for that privilege.
Carol was a humanitarian and pioneer in the field, and an incredible advocate for her patients, many of whom were veterans. I have personally heard many of their lifechanging stories of recovery which they believe would not have been possible without her expertise and care.
We've lost a great human being, but she lives on in all of us who have benefitted from her endless dedication and contributions to hyperbaric.
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Sharing an article by Carol Henrick MD, neurologist/hyperbaric specialist, explaining how the brain becomes "disconnected" with traumatic or toxic injury.
Although she is mostly discussing physical traumatic brain injuries sustained by veterans, many of those insults include a toxic/metabolic/inflammatory component, which is comparable to the toxic brain insult caused by Lyme infection.
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His frustration is palpable. Unfortunately, this is a common theme in medicine. Dr. Burzynski and his antineoplaston therapies is a prime example. And of course, Raymond Rife's story is a medical travesty. Look at what just happened this year at the FDA in refusing to pass MDMA as a PTSD therapy.
All we can do is keep spreading the word and hope Dr. Harsh's work get the attention it deserves.
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Sadly, promising treatments and cures for so many serious diseases and conditions have been offered but buried.
I agree...it is more important than ever to continue to spread the word and educate people on the merits of hyperbaric.
A big concern I have is that as hyperbaric gains in popularity (particularly in "spa" clinics, etc.), I have noticed that many uneducated and/or business driven providers are not offering accurate information or effective protocols (based on current research) to their clients based on their condition.
This is one of the many reasons losing Dr. Henricks is such a blow to her patients and hyperbaric community. She was a legitimate source whose expertise, recommendations and protocols could be trusted.
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Update on my progress: I'm definitely better than I was in August. On good days, my pain is lower, and I even almost forgot my supplements twice. But my symptoms still fluctuate. Bad days are still painful enough that I have to prioritize rest during the week. Also, the oxygen chamber doesn't make my nerve pain worse during treatment anymore, which is a change from before.
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Hi Peter,
Thank you for the update!
Judging by your last post, you are about 7 months into mHBOT now. Your progress is encouraging and appears to be roughly on track (or ahead) when compared to mine at around 7 months.
I also appreciate that you are aware of the positive changes, however subtle they might feel at this point. The "good windows" will become more frequent, and the "bad days" will become less frequent. There will likely still be flares in symptoms as you continue to "peel the onion".
Resist the urge to overdo or go off track because you're feeling slightly better at this point. You're still at a stage where you can experience setbacks if you push your body too hard.
All in all, great signs. Please keep us posted!
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I've been following the mhbot protocol Phoiph recommends for Lyme and Co-infections. I was wondering if there is anything else I could be doing for Bartonella specifically that wouldn't interfere with this (ie I understand why herbs and antibiotics WOULD interfere, and don't want to do those. I've also done Rife, which didn't help me unfortunately). I've had these infections for 34 years and they are entrenched deep. Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations that helped them? I just feel intuitively that I need a little bit more to help with the Bartonella. Thank you so much and wish everyone happy holidays!
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Welcome, LexiBPB1987~
Can you elaborate a little more on where you are with your mHBOT protocol (e.g., how many dives have you done, and how frequently/consistently)?
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quote:Originally posted by Phoiph: Welcome, LexiBPB1987~
Can you elaborate a little more on where you are with your mHBOT protocol (e.g., how many dives have you done, and how frequently/consistently)?
Hi Phoiph, I am doing your protocol, 1 hr dives 7 days per week (1 hour at full pressure - doesn't include ascent/descent). Strict Keto diet, yoga, limbic retraining/nervous system retraining. I have been doing it for almost 10 months now. I realize that most people need to do it for 2+ years. I will say that I have a very strong intuition, (which sounds crazy, I know), and I just would really would like to do an additional therapy for Bartonella that wouldn't interfere with mhbot. Reading through this entire thread, it seems some are able to get rid of their infections through mhbot alone, others need extra help. But I don't want to do herbs or antibiotics (due to potential interference with mhbot and also I am trying to heal my gut microbiome, not didn't want to negatively affect it further), so I was wondering if anyone on here had any suggestions...I did rife and didn't find it beneficial. It seems like SOT is hit or miss for people too.
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Lexi, thanks for that background. Good for you for being consistent and also working on your gut biome, yoga, etc.
Forgive me for replying with another question for now...
What changes, if any, (however subtle), have you experienced so far?
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quote:Originally posted by Phoiph: Lexi, thanks for that background. Good for you for being consistent and also working on your gut biome, yoga, etc.
Forgive me for replying with another question for now...
What changes, if any, (however subtle), have you experienced so far?
Hi Phoiph, Thank you for your reply. In full honestly, when I say yoga, I mean VERY LIGHT yoga, as I have severe post-exertional fatigue with any kind of movement. But in regards to changes or improvements, I will say truthfully there has been little to no improvement. Now, I realize that it took me a LONG time to get this ill, and I wasn't expecting to be running a marathon in 3 months But the only changes that I notice are when I am in the chamber (I feel more alert, reading is easier and I am able to read more than one page without needing to "rest"), but these gains dissipate soon after the session has ended. I struggle with hypermobility (but am not Ehler Danlos) and this hypermobility is directly linked to the Bartonella, which is one of the reasons I feel really strongly about adding in another treatment (but again, one that would not interfere with mhbot).
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