Topic: Vitamin C/Salt Who is doing it and What do you know.?
DebAz
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Hello. .. there seems to be such a wide spectrum of opinons from one extreme to the other. I know some are saying flat out do not try it... and I hear your concerns but as well... I hear the other side to and my scientific mind has not really seen or given me a reason to not try this.. and is pulling me towards .. This makes sense to try.. I now heard two who not only have had success on this post alone they have verified they in the very beginning had some kideny pain and it was sown to be a herx. This makes me feel much better. As well from someone who has intestinal problems and infections that were acute and huge enough to be in the ER and hospitalzed without answers many times.. I know there is something going on even just in my gut that needs killing. I too feel lots of times like King and I at times am willing to try much more radical things than this after years of being so sick you have No life. There is no simple answer but as well we all have to find our own paths and I appreciate all the feedback.. Pros and Cons...
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Angelica,
One of if not the best LLMDS in the country (Dr K) puts his patients on salt/c to deworm them.
Is your objection to using this protocol because you can't tolerate it, due to your blood type or sensitive stomach issues?
Totally understandable, but those are not everyones issues.
When you are stating hard facts you should back them up instead of (My LLMD said someone died) or killed?
You did say in an earlier post that a boy died from a salt overdose.
I think we all should know the facts about that if it's not the same case I found on line.
That case that I posted about is self evident.
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glm1111 if you want to consume Salt and C fine. I think it is a dangerous protocol and my LLMD who is also popular and famous at least on this website thinks it is dangerous and that is good enough for me.
I have no idea who the person is who died from it nor did I feel the need to ask for further details. If my MD tells me something is dangerous and that someone died from doing it I believe him and don't need to waste my 30 minute appointment asking why so I can post that information for you. Sheesh! Give me a break.
Even if it did not bother my kidney or stomach I think there are safer protocols to do. I have NO INTEREST in doing Salt and C.
I am done posting on this thread. You know my opinion on Salt and C already and you are going to do what you want to do regardless of what I have to say. Posting on this thread is unproductive for me.
If this is not enough to discourage someone I don't know what else would be.
"I know you feel desperate but you might feel more so if you damage your heart and have new cardiac episodes and arrhythmias that won't go away even long after stopping salt or kidney damage that is permanent causing all kinds of problems.
One person I know ended up bedridden for three months after salt/c and another ended up in a wheelchair on oxygen; it was the one poor treatment decision I made and has had lasting consequences. Imagine adding new health problems to your current ones-- not a good idea. There are other options; please don't risk what little health you have left."
PS. I have read other posts on this forum about Salt and C making people really ill. Do this protocol at your own risk. It is not going to get my Good House Keeping Seal of Approval on it ever.
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That's the whole point, no one needs your Good Houskeeping seal of approval.
The only reason I have pursued this conversation is your negativity to a protocol that really has helped a lot of people.
Lyme complex is multisystemic and can affect the heart and the kidneys. Stop blaming it on the salt/c.
You just seem to be on some kind of personal campaign. People on here are intelligent enough to do the research and use their own judgement.
And you are way too vague with your info. It's a he said she said.
By the way when you posted that your LLMD said someone was killed by this protocol it was just another flag.
I just had a vision of someone falling into a vat of salt/c and getting "KILLED" because they were brined to death.
A person is not killed from an adverse reaction, they usually just die.
I have been doing this protocol for 2yrs and am healthier than I have been in 30yrs. (It saved my life)
FYI I have a medical background in allopathic medicine and holistic alternatives for over 30 yrs.
I hope your LLMD helps you heal.
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i think we are all intelligent enough to do our own research. thank god, i did. salt c has been the best treatment decision i have made yet. i am seeing marked improvements, outside of herxes, in digestion, brain fog, pain and stiffness.
please read the old old posts on lymestrategies and see if it appeals to you. salt c is wide spectrum antibacterial and will get not only Bb but also babs, bart and other co's.
i swear by this protocol and am so happy i found it. but, to each his own. if someone got better with abx then i am very happy for you. i relapsed HARD after i stopped abx. i was on orals for 12 months. i have made more gains on salt c then i did the entire time on abx. everyone is different and we all want everyone to get well.
so, good luck. do your research. interrogate people that have had success. how did they do it? with abx? rife? salt c? I have personally emailed HUNDREDS of people that have gotten well and i did what they did to get well.
best of luck and happy t-day.
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My two cents - my osteopath says it can really hurt you.
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Oxygenbabe,
Why aren't you trying to save people from the "dire" often life threating side affects from multiple doses of antibiotics and or other regular medicine.
If I saw you posting these warnings also, your argument might have more credibility as "In trying to help people" from harmful protocols.
One of the antfungals I was given had a side effect listed as possible cardiac arrest among other things.(not diflucan)Sorry, I can't remember the name.
Allopathic medicine has at different times been both benificial and detrimental to me (often life threatening and on the other hand has saved my life)
The same symptoms you have had mentioned can be identified with Lyme Complex and or herxing from different protocols.
Not to be offensive, and I am sorry you are so sick, but it sounds like you have an ongoing infection that you want to blame on the salt/c protocol.
I have a friend with chronic Lyme and whatever protocol she does and starts herxing from she blames on "the colonic, the dr, the energy medicine, the antibiotics etc.
It becomes obvious that she has severe neurolyme. I am not promoting any particular protocol.
For me I am open to whatever helps people get well, whether it is antibiotics, herbs, bionic 880, salt/c etc.
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I think.. You all should just put up your experience and you own information in clear and fact filled format and leave out the back and forth jargen. It is taking me much longer to sift through as someone who is researching this.. And I hate to feel such tension between people who have much more in common than not ... and that is beating the diseases we are faced with and ... getting well. PEACE>> I say and. GOOD Will and Great Health To all!! Thank You.. so much for the information .. Debbie
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Hi Deb,
Sorry about the back and forth bantering. I guess we have salt/c monitors. Here are the facts for me and my experience with this protocol.
I have been battling this disease since 1983. Diagnosed in 1999 by LLMD.
I have used antibiotics oral for 3-4yrs and IV rocephin for 6 mos. IVIG, IVC for 2 yrs.
I have done herbs for borrellia, bart, babs, mycoplasma, mycobacterium, parasites, worms, fungus, strep, staph,actinomycosis etc.
I have done alkalizing, juicing, macrobiotic diet, antifungal diet, meditation and lots of prayer.
The last(prayer) believe it or not is how I was literally guided to and found the salt/c protocol.
I believe everything I have done has helped me heal, but it was the Salt/C that really started to turn the corner for me.
It is a very powerful protocol.
Hope this helps you decide what direction you want to take in your healing, wishing you Peace & Light,
Gael
It has given me hope that I can put this disease into remission. I hope this gives you some more info that you need to help
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Gail you are on some sort of personal campaign. I find your mind closed to other input and your posts harsh and condescending.
I certainly have no desire to discuss this protocol with you any further. I don't need you attitude. I find it very invalidating and unjustified.
You are obviously not open to a amicable or pleasant discussion. It is your way and protocol or the highway.
I am glad Oxgenbabe has the energy to deal with you. I find you too caustic to want to try.
If you want to have a real discussion then drop your attitude and negativity at the door.
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GLM,
Thank you for sharing your story.
I didn't read much of the jibber jabber, so I don't want to pick sides.....but just wanted to say thanks for at least sharing your experiences so we can all hear both sides of it.
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Your Welcome Hoosier,
My intention is to help people heal from this awful disease if I can.
When you have years of personal experience with different modalities that haven't worked, it's great to share with others what has.
This protocol may not be for everyone but it has helped many. Some people have reported that it was the only thing that did work.
Some are salt sensitive and have other issues. These individuals should always consult with their physician.
I am not attached to any one protocol and would never try and push anything on anyone.
I have always felt whatever works whether it's antibiotics, herbs or quantum physics is a blessing.
I just found Salt/C to be a very powerful protocol, and one that is giving me my life back.
If you need any info on this or any other modality I have discussed, I would be happy to share,
Be Well, gael
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Wow Gael You have tried it all. Thats amazing. I am always looking to try new things and I do keep trying but I am getting tired of the things I try becoming just a list. I am big on the mind body concept and do a lot of healing visualizations etc. But this has been a battle in so many angles. It is such a tough one . And to turn the cornor is a great thing and I would so love to feel that way and be on the other side of the curve. There are different things that help different people but i do believe our digestive system is a huge part of our health and.. do you know if this helps in the same concept of Cholestrymine as where you end up making sure it does not absorb into your blood stream through your intestines. I would think that killing off things in that digestive system would help making sure during the time even if your on ABX and the toxins are trying to get out of your body that you can make darn sure there is no reabsorbtion. That is where my mind goes when thinking of this therapy as well.. Thanks Much
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Hmm reluctant to add this.. but i am a bit confused as Angelica posted the recent topic of Natrum Mur.
Natrum muriaticum is the homeopathic remedy commonly known as table salt or sodium chloride. !
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Hi Deb,
As far as getting rid of toxins, when diarrhea occurs from the die off due to the salt/c, these toxins are flushed out of your system.
At times there were so many parasites and worms that came pouring out of me that I thought i was hooked up to the ocean.
If I am constipated I will do an extra VitC flush. I also have done a lot of clear warm water enemas to release dying organisms.
My guidance always prompted me to stay focused and KEEP IT SIMPLE.
I intuitvely felt strongly that meant getting rid of the parasites and the other infections would leave also.
That is what seems to be happening. You are right about the connection between the digestive system and the immune sytem.
The colon is truly where disease starts. If you need any other feedback, let me know,
Gael
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Natrum Mur....(kinda like an oxymoron if you think about it) I am trying hard not to.
I have been reading lately the serioius relationship between salt and water deficiency and serious disease.
We are 75% saline,(close to sea salt composition) so if we have leaks of our body fluids thru sweating, diarrhea etc it make sense we would need to replace it.
By the way table salt is so detrimental because all of the vital minerals have been removed and it sits in our tissue and builds up as dead weight.(Truly toxic)
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i recevied quite a few PMs so i think it is best to answer you all here.. i am up to 20 grams of salt c. using himalyan salt in "oo" capsules. seeing great improvements. my chronic dry mouth gone, stomach pain gone, sleep is deep and sound, brain fog markedly decreased, pain and stiffness decreased, acne improved, have lost 10 lbs without changing my diet... this is all after only being on salt c for 6 months...i still have a ways to go. the most imprortant thing is to detox the dead bugs out of you. i really detox a lot.
go slow, it took me a while to get up to full dose. be diligent and keep going. i am so glad i did.
i think we all went everyone to get well, so if you do it with abx then good for you. this is how i have chosen to get well. i hope all of you find your answer.
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DebAz
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Hi Sam... am I to understand you are doing this along side your ABX. Can i ask what that protocol is and what your diagnosis overall is.?? THANKS appreciated.
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PS,, was the beginning part.. like first few weeks tough? Meaning should I time this when I am able to see a window of opportunity. such as not when I have Holiday company etc??Tx
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I guess I didnt realize that this thread was going to cause so much drama???? I am not trying to gang up on Angelica or Oxygenbabe.....I think they both bring lots of good stuff to this board and I respect them.....I am only disagreeing with their opinion on the Vit C/Sea Salt protocol......And I freely admit that it might not work for me.....But, just as they provided "anectdotal" evidence that its "dangerous".......I too, have hearsay that its not dangerous, if you approach it with common sense......
There is no doubt that physicians will disagree with this treatment, and some physicians will agree......who is right???? It doesnt matter.....Just like it doesnt matter that we disagree on this board....Everyone needs to make EDUCATED decisions for themselves......Anything you put in your body can cause a reaction, good or bad......If you knew what was in our food supply, we wouldnt even be having this discussion.....lol Not to mention the stuff in our water......
That being said.....Lets not say right vs wrong or have personal attacks.....Lets just keep things as "agree or agree to disagree"......None of us have all the answers, otherwise we would not be here trying to help eachother......I have 8 years of college education, but I still cant figure out how to cure myself.....Maybe there is no cure for me.....Maybe the "answer" is there is no answer.....I really dont know.....I am going back on my "raw diet", taking my supplements, doing Rife treatments and I am going to try the Vit C/ Seasalt next month.....I will keep everyone updated......
Angelica and OxygenBabe......I extend to you my gratitude for your opinions.....I know your heart is in the right place.....Even though I dont agree with you on this, I still respect you and what you bring to the board......Please dont leave this board over a difference in opinion......We are all searching for answers..........Its not easy for anyone with this illness or any illness for that matter.....Peace
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i have lymee babs and bart did 11 months of abx and relapsed hard after stopping abx. i am not doing any more abx currently. just doing salt c and rifing. best of luck with everything.
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I did a search on here that was suggested by oxygenbabe and all I could find were positive stories on the salt/c protocol.
Everything else was anecdotal and hearsay of someone elses testimony.
I am not trying to push any one particular protocol, not even this one. I am for whatever works.
Always consult your doctor and do your own research.
I was never interested in arguing with anyone about this protocol, I am a peacemaker at heart.
Warning people about possible harm from anything is good. But not being able to back that info up makes it not credible.
It is a fear tactic and can keep people away from something that can possibly really help.
I don't think asking for first hand credible stories is unreasonable, if you are going to bash a protocol.
Here are some positive feedback stories..........PhilRich member # 6817....Fitstick member # 6812......Saltydog member # 6253 (sept 21st) Also GiGi member #259
I never meant to cause any drama, I am sorry if I did. We are all trying desperately to heal.
Peace & Healing to everyone,
Gael
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Hi.. The more I search the more I see this protocol listed along side all the other alternative protocols to choose from and have not seen any dramatic warnings or issues around it that has been validated or any doctors recommendations against it or anything like that either.. it is becoming a protocol that people are given as a choice to try or add to their regemin. I am sure there have been some how have had trouble with it just like very other thing sometimes we do ok and sometimes not.> but I am not seeing any medical warnings or such.. THANKS for taking all the time to keep up on this post
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KingNeptune.> I see your going to be starting the protocol in the next month.>I am as well and would love to hear from you and keep in touch as we move forward. Honestly I would not make a deal out of a new trial of anything like something that seems simple and not threatening but after reading the whole thread here I am thinking I need to be much more careful than I had preveously felt. Let me know.. As well.> May I ask what a Flash Member is?? I am pretty new here and was not sure. THANKS
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I have gotten some other positive feedback from another forum and not feeling as afraid.. But will take it slow. THANKS for all the support.
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Hey DebAZ.......Sounds good to me.....Lets share our progress on this thread and see if people are getting better....
I am going to start on Wed or Thurs this week....SO I will start posting my progress or whatever I am feeling.....
I am going to be using a top quality Celtic Sea Salt which is gray.....and full of nutrients.....Not sure what kind of Vit C I am going to use, but will talk to my nutritionist at the health food store.....
I may go ahead and start a new thread when I begin......Does anyone else want to do this with me????
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Hi King,
Yes, let's all keep in touch with our progress. Very good idea. Just thought I'd let you know if you're interested that I use Ester-C powder with bioflavinoids by Natrol.
I have been ordering it at Vitacost for $12.87 (8oz size) I used to pay over $20.00 a bottle from the Vitamin Shoppe....so, big savings.
Hope you do well with this. It is very effective and a very powerful protocol.
Keep in touch,
Gael
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I'm in on the progress thread!! I'm using Himalayn salt.
My LLMD told me that she's seen progress doing this protocal.
A couple of patients reported that they did not see a big difference until they switched from Sea salt to the H salt.
I was looking all over for Ester Vit C in powder form on vita cost.
Thanks for the brand. have to look again.
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This is great.. I think the more of us that stay in touch and keep in touch about how we are doing and what we feel and how to watch for things .. the better.. I am so happy... What do you think of using the emergency packets that are filled with the minerals etc and then add the salt to that drink that is made. I already do the Emergen C packets... I would like to hear your opinions..
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OK Guys and Gals......Looks like we have a group of people willing to give this a try.....I am going to start on Thurs....I will post a new thread the day I start and I think everyone should post their results too......Lets put this theory to the test.....
I am not sure about the Emergen-C???? Does that have MSG (Natural Flavors) or synthetic sugars in it????? So many of the store brands are full of junk in them......Aspartame and MSG just give me toxic overload headaches.....
I have heard Natrol is a good brand.....I will let you all know what I get from the Health Food Store.....I also think I am going to switch up my sources of salt, just to see if certain brands work better......Might not be a bad idea to experiment with different brands to see what works the best for each person.....
Thanks for joining in ladies.......
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Regarding Salt.. I have read from you all so many types and kinds and brands..some say make sure there are minerals etc and some say no... make sure it is just pure and simple salt... the protocol says
However, the brand of salt is not important, nor is its form, only its purity; do not use salt with any additives, such as table salt. Pure salt can be ordered over the internet at Saltworks. Do not use Kosher Salt.
Viitamin C EmergenC Packet drinks I already take.. I think this should be ok... I am unsure of the importance of the choices and as I said I have read so many..
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Hi Everybody, This is terrific. I have been doing the salt/c for over 2 yrs. I have used celtic......himalyayan......and now I use Real salt......mined in Utah (GiGi recommends this one) I find it to be the least expensive.
I know the protocol says pure salt and you may be right. I found personally that any of these salts were equally effective for me.
And I think I really needed the minerals in the sea salt. Everyone is different. I always say, whatever works.
I have always used the Ester C powder with bioflavinoids by Natrol with no other additives and very good quality.
Always drink plenty of water with it.
God Speed To Us All!!
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Great..I am probably going to be gone for a couple weeks but will have my computer and may or may not start yet becauase I have to take care of my mother and can not risk having any herx or side affects. Last time I visited her she gave me some tea that was good for sleep that she had put together with various herbs and I was so sick in the am and we never figured out which ingredient did it but I can be very sensitive. I will watch for your posts and I am for sure in on this thread and want to participate and keep in touch with you all. THanks for the support. it fees better to try it with others.. Much. Deb
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Emergen C has alot of additives like tapioca starch, glycine and others.
Stick with pure vitamin C if you can.
On the website "lyme Photos" there is a place where you can contact the people that produced the site and ask questions. They'd know best.
If you do so let us know what they said.
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Deb,
I agree with Fancy about the emergen c you are taking. The additives probably are not good at all. Best of luck with your mom. Keep in touch and let us know how you are doing. Best wishes to your mom.
Gael
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I looked around and here is a summary of what kind of salt and c to get and how to start and how to scale up etc.
The issue for me still is when I read salt source sites such as even "real salt" it says there is iodine in it. And I am getting a little confused on what salt is best. It is a little contradicting to me when I read and I first read to get only pure sodium chloride. Then when i read the sources they say they have iodine but maybe because it is natural it is ok?
Will you guys read this page and let me know what you think?
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Well Here I am. My mothers surgery canceled because she ran a fever for 4 days prior and they put it off for a month. So I am here and I am going to the healthfood store to get some supplies to start the protocol. After I change my tickets and take a detox bath! Well anyway.. see you guys and I have read further and deeper and I found the spot you told me about that says start with 1 gram of each
Begin with 1g per day of salt and 1g per day of vitamin C, and then gradually ramp up (increase your dose) over a period of weeks or even months to around 8-12g per day of each taken throughout the day. The rule of thumb for maximum target dose is 1g for every 15 lbs (6.75 kilos) of bodyweight. The rule of thumb for how fast to ramp up is to GO SLOWLY. Unlike `quick fix' treatments we have all been conditioned to expect in medicine, this is a gentle and gradual, but very powerful treatment. Regaining your health through Salt/C is no race; everyone improves at their own rate. The period of time in which you ramp up to full dose is dependent on how well you feel as you take the salt. When you feel very poorly at a dose, stay at that dose until you feel better again, and then increase the dose again. Or you may lower your dose until you feel better, then try increasing the dose again later. Some people can ramp-up to their full dose within 1-2 weeks, adding 1g per day, some add only 1g per week, and some people take many months to get to higher doses. Most people will feel a little better the first few days, but then gradually feel worse. This is defined as a `die-off' reaction from killing pathogenic bacteria and other bugs, or a `Herxheimer' effect (`herx' for short). For some people the herx involves exacerbation of symptoms they have had before. For others it involves completely new symptoms, often neurological in nature. The herx symptoms also tend to `flare-up' every 3-5 weeks during Salt/C. Some have remained at full dose after reaching "symptom-free" from Lyme, others have done just a low "maintenance dose" (average 3 grams/day).
Hope this helps us start but if you read the Lyme Stradegies site you will find this information. It is not exactly organized in a great way but its there
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Deb,
Thanks for the excellent info from lymestrategies for the instructions to the protocol.
I would have posted this, but I run in to complications when I try and copy and paste. At least it's here. Good job.
I am very conservative so I started with 1/4 tsp a day of salt and c. I ramped up slowly just like Marc suggested.
Have a safe trip,
Gael
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Thanks.. But well as I posted above I am not leaving now..The surgery for her was canceled and so was my trip one day before I was leaving.
So I am going to hopefully start the protocol here with the others this week. SOund good?? Deb.
I am reading more and I can cut and paste like crazy. Some of that site is hard to sift through and though I am getting more of the just of it all and how to start and how to progress etc.
THANKS for all your support. Can you tell me what percent you feel better since on it. >For 2 years now right?? LIke 50 percent or 80 or???? I am looking for a high number. : )
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Okay, I am at the 2 yr mark with the salt/c. I went from deathly ill to 80-90% better, depending on the day.
I am not going to kid anyone, it's been rough. Lots of emotional herxes as well. Remember these creatures are going to try and leave any way they can. They can't stand the salt.
They have made the body their home and have layed hundreds of thousands eggs a day. Everyone is different and it depends on how long you have been sick.
I AM getting my life back. I will never go off this protocol, because if just one egg is left the cycle will start all over again. Stay focused and know their is a way out.
Gael
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Thanks Paul,
I have/had bart, babs,erlichia(human monocytic erlichiosis as co-infections.
How about you? Where are you in regards to your treatment. What do you take? What king of healthcare bus. are you in?
Hope you are doing well,
Gael
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I tried the Vit C/Salt protocol last year. Unfortunately this is one that I can't recommend. I did it as recommended on the lyme photos site - using the salt pills from a pharmacy.
Every time I took a dose, I felt ill and dizzy within 10 minutes. I don't believe this was a herx, but rather a negative reaction to the salt.
Maybe if I tried the Himilayan or Real Salt as recommended above I would have had a different experience, but my experience left me feeling that this is a potentially dangerous protocol, and one that should be avoided.
I have found lots of good results with detox protocols, along with diet. You can see what worked for me at my website (in the signature)
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hi.. Well I will say. I have started trying this last week for just two days and then i got so many warnings I took a seat back. Then in the past two days I did two more days in a row. And wow i feel so much better already.> Maybe that initial reaction. The only other think I changed was that I added a second dose of cholestrymine in the AM i already was taking that so I do not think that is it. So thought in the am. I take my thryoid med and wait 30 minutes. I take all my other meds for pain and supplements like D3 and maybe only 3 other basic and wait 30 minutes. Then I drink a Salt C drink (i have powered C and disolve Salt in water) and wait 30 minutes. Then I mix Cholesrymine and Miralax and drink and wait 30 minutes. Then I eat something like toast (i eat spelt bread) with almond milk). The theory is that after 30 minutes of taking Cholestymine if you eat it will activate your system to excete the bile and toxins and the cholestryine will absorb. It is a process but it is what I read on a site from Dr. T on timing of these components. I am on Ketek and I have not been able to take it without terrible Herxing unless I wait a week in between and not take it more then 3 days a week. This week so far I have had the least Herx and actually have tolerated it really well and I feel better than I have in quite a while. Maybe this is a short opening before the Salt Herxing but I will take it. THANKS so much for listening. PS at night I do the same routine. Meds first..then Salt C and then Cholestrymine/Miralax then eat
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Hi David,
I know what you mean about getting dizzy. I get vertigo from time to time. Since salt is a natural bacteriocide it would be going after the parasites.
When the parasites start to run especially in the brain, naturally it could make someone dizzy. I can only tell you of my experience, and for me this is a herx.
I think it has been so ingrained in us for years that salt is dangerous that we have an underlying fear of it.
In fact, we need salt, we are 75% saline and we lose it daily thru sweating etc. I looked at your website.
I have been "detoxing" for years with colonics, healthy diets, strong antiparasitic herbs, juicing, healthy probiotics etc.
I am sure it all helped and I might due more herbs again, but it was the salt/c that really turned things around for me
How are you doing with your detox? Are you in remission?
Be Well,
Gael
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Oh goodness all the talk about the parasites and worms coming out of me is a little scary.. Ecs the one about the worm coming right out of the top of your head and I read someone else say they had worms coming out of their ears. Hmmm But at the same time if it happens I will be happy to be rid of them or be on my way to rid myself. I saw that girl on tv who they did brain surgery on and pulled the parasite out of her brain while they were digging around for a tumor they thought she had. it was huge. And they said they see more and more of these cases.. I am hoping for sure that I do get rid of any I might have. I read that 80 percent of people do have some. I am positive that there are most that are too small to see... And well I hope I do not have to see them.. LOL D
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Hi Deb,
Your are a real trooper, keep going. Yes you can experience some strong herxes on the salt/c Just remember to go slow and drinks lots of water.
Before I forget, could you please delete some of your duplicate posts and break up your paragraphs so us neurolymies can read it better.
Thanks a bunch. Looking forward to your next progress report.
Gael
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Hi All
I know King said there will be a post starting Thursday and I will wait til she starts that post to talk about progress and all that..
But i am going to start on my first day tonight.. I also got the Pure Celtic Sea Salt. It is brownish in color too and for the C i have choosen buffered C Crystals.
I am going to disolve them. I will be interested in seeing if there is any diffrence in the other salt and C i tried just for those couple days a couple times.
Well as well Gael.. I got some coconut oil to try.. Organic Extra Virgin.. : ).. But one thing at a time I promise.. At least waiting to see how I do on the new thing i add. I have learned that lesson before.
PS I also told some other people on the 2nd board I am on sometimes. They asked if they are already on the protocol is they can jump into our thread and i said. ABSOLUTELY! I am excited actually. Something to look forward to and the communication itself is fun and it feels nice.
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Well anyway.. see you guys and I have read further and deeper and I found the spot you told me about that says start with 1 gram of each
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