glm1111
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Nice find Deb,
It is always good to get a look at other peoples experiences that have gone thru this.
Thanks for posting,
Gael
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LOOK at your own RISK
I warn you this is graphic
on the CureZone there is a parasite and cleansing section and they have a place where people post pictures.
It is only for those who want to learn and are ok with seeing graphic images of all sorts.
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Does it matter if doses are taken close to food or not?
And is it ok to take the salt per teaspoon, and the vit c in capsule form?
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Here is a statement from the lymestratagies site. ..... And that is how I do it as well. Deb
It's best on an empty stomach with lots of water, but if you've just eaten and it is time for a dose, don't let that stop you from taking it. Better to dose regularly, than miss doses because you are trying to time it for empty stomach.
Also, some people with sensitive stomachs have taken their doses with food if they are having problems keeping it down.
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Hi Deb,
The pictures of parasites are a good referral. I have seen some of those myself. I wonder if the checkered looking ones have been identified?
I have seen those on the www.lymephotos.com site as well. Thanks for posting that,
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE,
Gael
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This is an interesting article and the giving patients tsps of salt every day to take caught my eye.
CONFERENCE HIGHLIGHT
An Old Treatment Renewed?
Tae Park. Comprehensive treatments with IVIG for CFS (poster).
Dr. Park gave one gram of IV gamma globulin in 500 cc of normal saline infused over 1 hour once a week to 50 CFS patients for six months, none of whom were working at the time.
He also monitored their sleep, prescribing Klonopin and/or Prozac (10-20 mg.) if needed, and their activity levels and diet, accentuating organic foods and avoiding bread, canned foods, chocolate, MSG, aspartame and hot pepper.
His patients were instructed to drink 2-3 liters of water a day with 2-3 teaspoons of salt, and walk no more than I hour a day.
His patients did very well; most returned to work or school, Karposky scores rose from the 40's to the 80's or 90's and their cognition improved.
Importantly, problems with sleep apnea improved greatly. Some of the younger patients essentially recovered in one to two months. Three to five years later Dr. Park said these patients still maintained their near complete recovery.
A Talk With Dr. Park - In his poster Dr. Park noted several IV gamma globulin trials that have failed in the past. I asked him in an e-mail why he thought his trial has worked while others had failed.
He said that he believes that CFS physicians and their patients underestimate how important it is to have a toxic free environment.
He believes that an increasingly toxic environment is a main contributor to CFS; that it is the toxins we are exposed to in our air, foods and water that disrupt our immune systems allowing latent virus reactivation. He prohibits his patients from living in newly built houses. He stated he often sees enlarged livers (and noted, to his surprise, that few physicians in the U.S. know how to `palpate' livers.)
Gamma globulin is the most important agent he has to treat central nervous system inflammation. He notes that many of his CFS patients present with stroke-like or Parkinson's-like symptoms and sleep apnea even after using CPAP and all of them show improvement with intravenous gamma globulin.
Three to six months of IV gamma globulin has also been effective in improving the low renal blood flows noted in Dr. Park's poster (in the IACFS I: Cardiovascular and Exercise Studies click here). As described in that poster Dr. Park believes that CFS is a disease characterized by systemic microvascular inflammation.
Dr. Park runs the CFS Clinic of South Korea in Seoul.
Click here to go to PART V: THE ECONOMIC COSTS, DEFINING CFS, ME AND CFS, BEH
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Good article Deb,
I had IVIG for 2 yrs(once a month) and it really didn't do much. I can't help but think that Dr. Park is underestimating the efficacy of the salt which is a natural bacteriocide.
It would be interesting to see the outcome if he followed the same protocol eliminating the Gamma Globulin and just using the salt.
Sounds like a smart doctor though. I have heard that Asian people use salt for healing. Thanks, Gael
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GLM, Thanks for all the great info. I'd been on the protocol for almost 2 months now with 3g dose and 2x/d, and I had felt much better since.
Angelica, PLEASE, DO NOT post info. that you can't back them up, such as " my llmd told me someone died from S/C". I got really freaked out when I first saw your thread. Your personal opinion does not help any of us here, we're all in the Lyme situation and what we need to know is from true experienced, NOT personal opinion.
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Lyme Takes multiple forms and is a very complex bacteria.
Salt and Vit C will never touch the extercellular or cystic forms of Lyme. Intercellular is questionable too.
Does this mean that a Salt and C would cure syphilis and other similar bacteria- or does it only work on Lyme?.
I spoke to two ILADS past presidents about this. They said if it was only that simple. Are we now going to say that they don't know Lyme better than all on this board.
Do as you like but please be careful.
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glm1111
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Inc2000,
That is terrific. So glad it is helping you. Have you seen any results similar to the lymephotos?
If you need any more info or help, please let me know or feel free to pm me,
Gael
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glm1111
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hcconn22,
I personally think experience is the best teacher. Salt is a broad spectrum antibiotic. Many people have gone into remission from this protocol.
I am on my way to doing the same. It also kills the cyst form as seen on www.lymephotos.com I have seen these also.
Salt works on a deep intracellular level, kinda like peeling an onion. If it didn't kill the spirochetes, how would you explain people getting well on this protocol?
I don't understand why folks make statements that aren't backed up by facts.
Gael
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I meant to say, I felt worse after taking Biaxin/Plaquinel/Omnicef
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I DO I DO. LOL. My sister works for a Vet. and the best treatment for a dog who has been bitten by a Copperhead is Salt Cured Bacon. It pulls the poisons to the bowels and renders them harmless. I have seen it work. I know it works. The same princlple applies to us when we kill off the bugs they release toxins and the salt and vitamin C pulls it to the bowels. Not a miracle just common sense.
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glm1111
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Good Analogy Pinelady.
Another analogy I like to use is the principal of soaking ones finger in salt water to pull the infection out.
I picture my body as working on the same principal. The salt just draws out the infections and brings them to the surface and then they are emptied out of the colon. It works!!
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