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I restate my position on this being in the Snake Oil category.
Salt & C is dangerous It was invented by a guy in his kitchen No MD, or Natural Dr would recommend this People who sell this is ebooks are wrong. It offers false hope- How does it effect cystic, or extra cellular Lyme
Hi, Salt/C has helped many people. My advice to you is don't waste your time posting on lymenet regarding salt/C.
Some are against it without even trying it. Some were not able to take it because of salt sensitivity. Like me.
I found out when I got up to 5 grams I am salt sensitive. I was sad but that's the way it is. So, I just take one gram now because it makes me feel good and doesn't effect my BP. I'll be looking for other means of treatment.
There are precautions to take and things to look out for just like with ABX.
It will probably be more helpful.
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Hi Seek,
I am here. I have been sleeping a lot. I am making big strides every day as far as dieoff. How are you doing? Are you still taking salt/c? Sorry if I disappeared but after Deb left there wasn't much anything new for me to post.
I have been on the salt/c for 2 1/2 yrs and counting. Also there were a lot of complaints from people that this was looking like a salt/c board.
hcconn,
making blanket statements that salt/c is dangerous is not helpful for those people that it has worked wonders for including myself. The pros and cons of the protocol have been stated on this thread. It has completely and safely saved my life.
1 tickedlady,
Yes as with any protocol it can cause emotional herxes as well as neurological herxes. Remember the pathogens in the brain are dying as well. How much Himalayan salt are you taking? You said 2 in the am and 1 at night. Do you mean gms...tsps or what exactly?
Also I don't see any vitamin C on your list. The protocol is equal amnts of sea salt with equal amnts of vit c. Ramping up slowly is important as well as drinking a lot of water. If you need mor clarity, let me know., Gael
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Salt/c does kill the cyst form as is shown on www.lymephotos.com I have seen the cyst form as shown here. Salt is a broad spectrum natural bacteriocide and goes deep into the tissues working on a cellular level.
Think of it like peeling an onion. When you cut yourself and you get an infection, soaking your finger in salt water draws out the infection. Same principal, only it is pulling these infections out of your body not just your finger,
Gael
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PREPARATION to consider for the Salt / Vitamin C Protocol - the First Step:
As with preparation for any protocol, you'd first want to consult your doctor and get some blood work.
It's important to read from a variety of sources and get various authors' original and updated literature.
Be very careful about following dosage amount from a post as each person can be different, typos do occur, etc., so you'd want to be sure to double check with the official author's statement to make sure dosage suggestions match up.
It's also a good idea to take a look at the sites of the American Kidney Foundation and the American Heart Association for the safety levels of sodium. In general, learning more about how the kidneys and heart works is helpful, too.
It's good to learn more about sea salt, too. If you decide not to do the salt/vit C protocol, avoiding normal table salt and using sea salt for daily use is a good idea, within a range suggested by your doctor for your body.
Before beginning this - or any protocol, really: share your intentions with your doctor.
Have your doctor run labs on your kidney function and electrolytes - and also check your blood pressure and heart rhythm. Excess salt can be dangerous for someone with decreased kidney function or certain heart conditions. And, yes, it can be fatal, under certain circumstances.
If you are diabetic, this protocol is not advised, so be sure to have glucose testing first, as some people are not aware if they have diabetes. Overweight people also have increased kidney pressure so this could pose risks.
It is also important to let your doctor know if you have any edema (puffiness or swelling of face, hands, feet, etc.). Edema can be sign that the kidneys or heart are stressed regarding circulation or elimination.
Here is one good article from someone who has done this - to consider as part of preparation/study:
12. IF a person has ANY reason to suspect that they have heart or kidney weaknesses, or that they may have the ACE mutation (most people with CFS may have this), or if they know that they have any other the risk factors, they should not be on salt/c without careful monitoring of their progress, and if possible medical supervision.
- Full post at link above.
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Note: this protocol is not suggested by any LLMD but any doctor would still be able to offer you the preliminary tests required.
This protocol is not to be confused with the practice of modest increases in sodium intake for patients with various kinds of low blood pressure (POTS, NMH, etc.)
That is something quite different and does not involve the same levels. Patients are also under a doctor's supervision for that.
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Read what happened to Sara.
I need to speak up every now and again and remind people that Salt/C is not for everyone.
I did it for a few months a couple of years ago, and ended up in the ER with all the symptoms of full-blown diastolic heart failure.
The symptoms took a few months to subside once I went off of it. It was a hard six months before I was even back to where I was before that misadventure.
I'm not saying don't do it. I am saying that salt and vitamin C sound as harmless as a kitten -- but since every person with Lyme disease seems to be sick in his or her own special way, it's not safe for everyone.
Please tread carefully -- and stop the minute something goes sideways.
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That is interesting about the diastolic heart failure. A friend of mine who was taking antibiotics for several months had the same exact thing happen to him.
His LLMD didn't think it was from the antibiotics but from the Lyme disease itself. His doctor also said it could be age related among other things. So it is not necessarily caused by the antibiotics or the salt.
Gael
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I do not claim to have talked to every LLMD there is regarding this protocol.
But..... I have talked to one who in fact has suggested this protocol because she does have some patients who have seen much improvement.
At the same time she has had patients who didn't notice a difference.
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Hi Fancy,
How are you doing? Sorry to hear you are still salt sensitive. Glad to hear that you are taking some salt to keep the critters at bay. Have you been able to tolerate herbs at all?
Sent you pm yesterday, don't know if you got it. Have you tried antibiotics? Hope you find the right combo for yourself.
Gael
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Really excellent info on salt and C. Thanks for posting. How long have you been on the salt/c? A lot of good reading.
Thanks again,
Gael
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I tried Salt/C for a couple of months years ago and gave up as it made no difference to my symtoms. As with any protocol abx etc there are dangers and risks involved but I never considered it espechially dangerous. Just not universally effective!!!
its unfortunate that people advocating it are selling e books as that gives the protocol not the right image!
That said I do think drinking enough pure water is important. How much is enough? I kinda agree with Dr Robert O young when he says you should aim for 1 litre of water for every 30lbs of body weight. Thats my personal innovation!
However since then I have had cavational surgery on my jaw and got my teeth sorted out and I have just restared the salt/C protocol and this time I do feel a difference!!
I am on 20 g of celtic salt and also take 4g of effeversent Vit C. I know that is a low amout of vit C but its my preference. I take a little clay and charcoal for mopping up the toxins.
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One criteria for chronic lymies:cfs is it affordable and it meets that test!!!
One has to be able to afford abx for years on end etc!!!!
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Hi Wallace,
I am on the salt/c protocol since May 2006. It has saved my life along with antiparasitic herbs. I am also on 20 gms of Real Salt and 20 gms Ester C powder in divided doses. Glad you tried it again and it is working for you.
For anyone wanting to try this, it is VERY important that you ramp up slowly and drink plenty of water. Lots of info on lymenet about salt/c by going to the search bar and typing in salt/c.
You can visit lymestrategies to join the group that is doing salt/c and other therapy. You don't have to buy the e-book on it.
Gael
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Every once in a while you get someone on here who says Salt/C can cause this problem or that problem.
What a riot!
Yet there are people who take multiple antibiotics in high doses for ungodly periods of time and that's supposed to be the accepted thing to do, right?
Just take a look at one such antibiotic in the arsenal against bartonella, Levaquin, which is a fluoroquinolone. Have you ever googled fluoroquinolones and Levaquin?
Let's not even deal with the hundreds of petty side effects like DNA damage and popping tendons that Levaquin can cause. Let's get right down to how many people who have been reported to have freakin' DIED as a direct result of taking the stuff:
The following is from Wikipedia:
quote:Associated fatalities: A significant number of fatalities have been associated with this class. Trovan (Trovafloxacin), Raxar (Grepafloxacin), Omniflox (Temafloxacin), and most recently Tequin (Gatifloxacin) have all been removed from clinical use due to such fatalities. Within the latest ADR summaries for Levaquin, Floxin, Cipro, Avelox, and Factive obtained under the freedom of information act from the FDA (December 2008) [183] there are 2,661 total death outcomes by case:
1038 to be found within the Ciprofloxacin (Cipro) summary,[184] 944 to be found within the Levofloxacin (Levaquin) summary,[185] 337 to be found within the Moxifloxacin (Avelox) summary,[186] 335 to be found within the Floxin (Ofloxacin) summary,[187] 7 to be found within the Gemifloxacin (Factive) summary.[188]
944 deaths!! from Levaquin, second only to Cipro, which I believe some docs prescribe for Lyme patients as well.
Yet some doctors, and abx advocates on this board have a conniption when you mention Salt/C, citing rare cases when someone with a preexisting condition had a blood pressure problem with it, or a heart problem, whatever.
And rx drugs have the advantage of a doctor prescribing them which means they can ensure that the patient follows all the rules of an established protocol.
Salt/C is like the wild, wild west, in that when a person starts to undergo the therapy, they're on their own. They don't have anyone monitoring them to make sure that they are not taking too much or the wrong proportions of the stuff or not drinking enough water, or perhaps taking drugs with contraindications. But even with these disadvantages, Salt/C is still a million times safer than pharmaceuticals.
Give me a break. If the medical profession would embrace Salt/C and perform clinical trials to determine exactly who is at risk and what the real risks are, I'm sure it would prove that Salt/C is a million times safer than any pharmaceutical drug out there.
But of course they won't do that because drug companies can not patent salt, or vitamin C. Furthermore, it's cheap and readily available in infinite supply, so they can't find a way to make huge profits on it.
This is where our government should step in and pay for such trials. But they won't do that. Thanks to the corruption caused by the drug lobby, the govt. is in bed with the big pharma and they do everything they can to protect their windfall profit making, rather than do what we pay them to do: protect the public.
The way I see it, any time someone comes on here and tries to say that Salt/C should be avoided because it's not safe, that person's name should be inked right in to everyone's "no credibility" list.
I'm sure there are plenty of trolls out there from the medical community who try to scare people away from inexpensive non-drug treatments like Salt/C. I'm not going to pay them any mind.
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chaps,
Thanks for researching and taking the time to post such informative material. Just a reminder that we can't be like sheep led to slaughter and sometimes using common sense and taking the reins of control over our own health and doing our own research can lead us out of this nightmare.
Sea salt is the closest to our own body saline. The first thing we are given in the ER is saline.
Doing this protocol slowly and drinkiing plenty of water can be VERY effective against these bugs.
Gael
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Anyone here using the San Francisco Salt Company?
I went to their website. They sell the Himilayan Salt at better prices than I could find anywhere else.
I haven't started Salt/C yet, but I would like to at some point. I just had my amalgam fillings out and also had a root canal tooth removed (YAY!)
I'd like to get my body excreting mercury and get some of that out of my system before embarking on Salt/C because if I'm not mistaken, if Salt/C kills a lot of borrelia in the brain that is sequestering mercuy, this might free up a lot of mercury to float around and I want to be sure I can get rid of it rather than let more of it settle in the body.
I just removed a source of exposure to mercury, I don't want to counteract that by freeing up more of it.
I don't know if my theory is correct, but that's where I'm at right now.
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chaps,
I use Real Salt (sea salt) and really like it. I buy it at vitacost for approx $7 for 26oz bag. Have you tried any antiparasitic herbs?
Both salt/c and these herbs have been lethal to Lyme, bart, babs and erlichia. It takes a while, but persistence is key, and staying on these protocols have been KEY for me.
Gael
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Hello, Im a friend of Wallace, and I would like to know if salt/vit c protocol is safe. As salt is said to increase breast cancer and to be contraindicated for breasts. Very important question for me. Thanks a lot . Is there any research you can cite?
And how much water should you drink without putting too much strain on your kidneys? Laura
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The best place to go for answers to your questions is lymestrategies. These are the people that do the salt/c protocol.
Marc Fett the owner of the web site should be able to give you more insight on this.
I never heard of salt being contraindicated for breast cancer. There is a big difference in the use of TABLE SALT and SEA SALT however.
I can only tell you that since using the sea salt and herbs, I have had infection come out of my breasts as well as under my breasts due to Lyme.
If you do the salt/c protocol it is VERY important to start slowly. I started with 1/4 tsp each of salt and 1/4 tsp of C in a large glass of water and drank extra water throughout the day.
I found the use of antiparasitic herbs equally important. Hulda Clark has a book called "The Cure For All Cancers" Of course this is not medical advice and you should check with your doctor.
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I always thought salt/c was similar to having infusions of Quinton plasma which still goes on in France and elsewhere.
The following extract is a translation of the official listing for Quinton Marine Plasma in the 1975 edition of the French VIDAL. The VIDAL is the European equivalent of the American Physicians Desk Reference (PDR), which lists the accepted medicines, how they are to be applied and their side effects.
Subject: DICTIONNAIRE VIDAL 1975 - Historical Use Only.
FRENCH VIDAL MEDICAL DICTIONARY 1975
QUINTON MARINE PLASMA
Natural unheated seawater extracted from specific ocean coordinates.
Ampoules for injectable, drinkable and external use.
QUINTON MARINE PLASMA is available in three concentrations: 1. Isotonic: PLASMA DE QUINTON 2. Hypertonic: HYPERTONIC DE QUINTON and DUPLASE DE QUINTON
Composition
A sterile, apyrogenic dilution (pH 7.2) of seawater, prepared under aseptic conditionsby special processes without rise in temperature or exposure to electric potential or field in order to preserve its molecular balance and its character of an "alive medium".
Contains the 92 elements of the periodic table (all primary and trace minerals).
The seawater is extracted from a 10-meter depth (zone of solar penetration) under special conditions and locations, which ensure safety as for its purity.
The clear ampoules are pyrogen-free to insure that subcutaneous or intravenous injection of QUINTON MARINE PLASMA is painless and absorbed quickly.
Properties
Rene QUINTON showed, in 1904, that QUINTON MARINE PLASMA is identical physically, chemically, and physiologically to our interior milieu (extracellular fluid) and provides the optimum conditions for red blood corpuscles and leucocytes and other blood fractions.It is possible to replace the entire blood volume of an animal with QUINTON MARINE PLASMA without any disorders for the organism.
Mode of action
1. Regeneration of the internal milieu (extracellular fluid)
2. Remineralization of the body with a bioavailable, crystaloid form of the primary minerals
3. Recharging of the body with a bioavailable, synergistic form of the trace minerals (oligo-elements)
4. Some of the low concentration constituents provide a homeopathic mechanism for restoring homeostasis.
The first injections may cause a light reaction with excitation or mild fever, without any further symptoms.
Use and dosage guidelines for QUINTON MARINE PLASMA
1. As a subcutaneous or intravenous injectable.
2. Oral consumption.
3. For external usage (spray, compress, localised cleaning).
General rules of treatment
Ongoing dosages are variable following the treated affliction but it is essential to continue to maintain sufficient amounts known to obtain the "traditional" results of QUINTON MARINE PLASMA.
To start, except in severe toxicity and diarrhoea, use small amounts (2 injections of 10 ml, 2 of 20 ml), and increase gradually (30, 50, 80, 100 ml.). Finally, perform ten injections to the highest amount compatible with good intestinal functioning.
Too strong amounts for a given subject can bring a tendency to constipation.
Infants and young children: Subcutaneous injections under the scapula.
Adults: Subcutaneous injections in the buttock (ambulatory processing) or intravenous injection.
PARENTERAL APPLICATIONS
Acute Toxicity, Poisoning:
200 ml. morning and evening during one week then 200 ml per day the following week. Food could be taken again gradually an hour after the first injection. (In the event of vomiting, replace milk with PLASMA OF QUINTON, diluted 2:1 in pure spring water, until the milk is well tolerated).
Diarrhoea, Malnutrition:
6 injections of 10 ml, every other day. Continue with 6 injections of 30 ml to 50 ml. maximum. The treatment usually requires fifteen days to several months. Resume normal feeding as in the beginning of the treatment but divided into smaller more frequent meals.
Prenatal Care:
1. For the mother: Prevent morning sickness. 2. For the infant: Disappearance of physiological stress. Start at the beginning of the pregnancy and continue as long as practical using three to four injections of 20 ml per week. Increase the dose every 10 days up to 200 ml maximum, then continue with DUPLASE DE QUINTON.
Adult Enteritis, Constipation:
To return gradually to a normal feeding use 4 injections of 30 ml every 3 days, then 10 injections of 50ml to 200 ml, at the maximum, every three days.
DERMATOLOGICAL APPLICATIONS
Eczema, Hives, Allergies:
Preferably injecting small amounts more frequently according to the reaction of the patient.
Adults:6 injections of 20 to 50 ml, every three days then continue every two days.
Infants: 6 injections of 5 to 30 ml, every three days then continue every two days. Localised spraying.
Psoriasis:
Begin with small amounts and increase dose quickly to 100 to 200 ml or more, then continue with DUPLASE DE QUINTON. Localised spraying and washing with DUPLASE DE QUINTON will hasten the healing.
External Tuberculosis:
3 injections of 30 ml. every three days. Continue with 4 injections of 50 ml, then 10 injections of 100 ml. Apply bandages soaked with PLASMA DE QUINTON.
Solvent for Antibiotics:
Assures painless injections. Its light alkalinity makes it particularly effective for Streptomycin.
ORAL APPLICATIONS
Infants:
Digestive disorders, Malnutrition: 1 ampoule of 10 ml, 1/4 hour before feeding-bottles, 3 times per day.
Vomiting:
Alternate a feeding-bottle of milk and a feeding-bottle of PLASMA DE QUINTON diluted 2:1 in pure spring water, until the milk is well tolerated.
Anorexia:
1 ampoule of 5 to 10 ml, 1/4 hour before feeding-bottles, 3 or 4 times per day.
Adults General Use:
Digestive problems Anorexia. Rebalancing bioterrain. Finalising an injectable treatment. Typical doses: 1 ampoule of 20 ml, 1/4 hour before each meal. PLASMA DE QUINTON should be held in the mouth a short time before being swallowed.
EXTERNAL APPLICATION
Eczema:
Localised spraying on affected area.
Psoriasis, Burns, Sunburns, Sunstroke:
Spraying and prolonged localised washing will hasten the healing. Apply bandages or compresses soaked with DUPLASE DE QUINTON or repeated spraying as often as possible.
Rhinitis, Sinusitis:
1 ampoule of 5 ml in each nostril 3 or 4 times per day.
Aerosol Medication:
PLASMA DE QUINTON or DUPLASE DE QUINTON.
Climatic A�rosol:
DUPLASE DE QUINTON.
Packaging
Ampoules for injectable, drinkable and external use.
Reimbursed by Social Security.
Collectively, A.M.G.
Approved by the A.P.
Visa : NL 5.735.
LABORATOIRES QUINTON
20, Av. Andr�-Danglade-PESSAC, pr�s Bordeaux.
Direction Comerciale:
4, rue Barrault- PARIS (XIIIeme).
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glm 20g of salt/c??? I thought I read you shouldn't go over 12...that's a LOT of salt/c!
I have been doing the salt/c for 6 or so months. I did go off for about 2 weeks somewhere in there but am back on. I worked my way up to 6g salt/c and that was as high as I got. I was also on abx and the herxing was horrid. I just felt like the bottom of a trash can ALL. THE. TIME.
Now, I am on 4g of salt/c and I feel good. I will possibly try to up that...or not, we'll see. I am definitely experiencing results...my skin crawls, I am constantly looking for the *source* as SURELY there is something crawling on me...
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I think the parasite angle is important, we need to tackle that with herbs(which ones?) or charcoal etc. Crawling sensations indicate a problem that salt/c isnt resolving!!!
I am going to take charcoal twice a day from now on. W
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I started Salt/C yesterday. I am currently on the Bruhner Protocal, about 6 weeks into it. Starting very slowly only up to 2 capsules (making my own capsules, 1st Chinese Herbs) twice a day.
Will go to 2 capsules three times a day next week with the exception of Andrographis. Based on the posts I am taking that extra slow.
So I started the Salt/C yesterday. Started at 1/2 TSP of each twice a day.
I have been doing 6 grams of C powder in water daily so I do not expect too many issues in the start up phase.
My first visit to the LLMD was supposed to be next Tuesday but after confirming the appointment he said he is no longer taking new patients. So I thought I would try the Salt/C while I look for a new LLMD. He is still seeing my son.
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YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!! That is WAY TOO MUCH to start with. You should only start with 1/4 tsp sea salt a day, or you can really have a VERY big herx.
I hope you are drinking plenty of water also. Check lymestrategies because these are the people doing the salt/c protocol for further guidance.
Gael
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Gael, I bought RealSalt per your recommendation a couple of months ago. Since I haven't started Salt/C yet, I've been using the RealSalt in place of table salt.
I think RealSalt is great, but when I compared its price to the Himalayan salt that can be obtained at San Francisco Bath Salt Co., I noticed a significant difference in price.
RealSalt costs $4.35 per pound if purchased at Vitacost.
So if you bought 25 lbs of it, it would cost $108.75
You can get 25 lbs of Himalayan salt at San Francisco BSC for $54.99.
That's almost HALF the cost! That's a rather significant savings.
How much would it cost you to ship 25 lbs. of RealSalt (in whatever increments you buy it) from Vitacost to your doorstep?
When you buy 25 lbs. or more of Himalayan Salt from SFBSC, shipping is free, so tack that on to the savings. That's huge!
If you buy a 50 lb. bag, it's $115.59 at SFBSC, a 47% or $102 savings over buying the same amount of RealSalt through Vitacost, which would would cost $217.50.
You may ask, who's going to consume that much salt? If Salt/C is something you're going to stay on the rest of your life as you have said, then yes, it is very likely that this amount can be consumed. Plus you can use if for mouth washing, tooth brushing, and other household purposes.
Or, if you know other people on the Salt/C protocol, you buy a big bag, split it up and save on the shipping.
Even if you buy the smallest quantity from SFBSC which is 5 lbs., that's $15.19 versus $21.75, a 30% savings.
Sorry to bore all of you with such a detailed cost analysis, but I'm an analytical person, I can't help it.
Oh, one more thing, for those who require kosher food, RealSalt costs extra for kosher. All of the Himalayan salt from SFBSC is certified kosher. SUCH A DEAL! -lol
So I just thought I'd pass this on in case anyone is interested in saving money.
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I'm not crazy about the possibility that Himalayan salt is harvested by people who are hygenically challenged, shall we say, that sweat all over the stuff while loading and unloading the slabs on camels' backs. I've seen this on a national geographic program, I didn't just make it up.
I try not to think about that.
I'd go with the Himalayan anyway. My gut feeling tells me it's better, has more purity and mineral content.
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I will join you soon, also doing vitamin C powder and four lemons a day. Will slowly start some salt. 1/4 teaspoon sounds good to me.
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I much prefer himalayan to celtic salt. Much easier to take. I just swallow and then drink lots of water! Dr Mercola says its the best salt (although he does sell it!).Naturally each supplier of it says only buy our supply! Ah capitalism....... The 13 Amazing Health Benefits of Himalayan Crystal Salt, the Purest Salt on Earth" (and Why You Want to Avoid Conventional Salt) Salt is essential for life -- you cannot live without it. However, most people simply don't realize that there are enormous differences between the standard, refined table and cooking salt most of you are accustomed to using and natural health-promoting salt.
These differences can have a major impact on your staying healthy.
If you want your body to function properly, you need holistic salt complete with all-natural elements. Today's common table salt has nothing in common with natural salt.
Your table salt is actually 97.5% sodium chloride and 2.5% chemicals such as moisture absorbents, and iodine. Dried at over 1,200 degrees Fahrenheit, the excessive heat alters the natural chemical structure of the salt.
This Salt Is Over 250 Million Years Old This is by far the purest salt available on earth and is absolutely uncontaminated with any toxins or pollutants.
Once I learned about it and how beneficial it can be for you, my team and I literally spent nearly the last two years working on having it brought over to the U.S. from Nepal.
I thought I would be able to provide this salt last year but to say obtaining this salt is difficult would be an enormous understatement. You see, the suppliers of this salt have no standard infrastructure available and we have to work through people that have no idea of how normal business operates.
The shipment had to go through a number of different countries before we were finally able to import it into the US so you can use it.
Quite truthfully, all the bugs are not worked out in the supply system, and we may sell out of this salt very quickly because of all its incredible benefits -- that's why, if you are interested I encourage you to place your order as soon as possible! If we do sell out this supply early, if our past experience is any predictor of the future it may be 6 months to a year before we are able to have more to sell to you. I have never in my life seen a product that has been this challenging to obtain.
This salt from the Himalayas is known as "white gold." Together with pure spring water, Himalayan Crystal Salt offers all the natural elements exactly identical to the elements in your body -- the very same elements originally found existing in the "primal sea."
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Containing all of the 84 elements found in your body, the benefits of natural Himalayan Crystal Salt include:
1.Regulating the water content throughout your body. 2.Promoting a healthy pH balance in your cells, particularly your brain cells. 3.Promoting blood sugar health and helping to reduce the signs of aging. 4.Assisting in the generation of hydroelectric energy in cells in your body. 5.Absorption of food particles through your intestinal tract. 6.Supporting respiratory health. 7.Promoting sinus health. 8.Prevention of muscle cramps. 9.Promoting bone strength. 10.Regulating your sleep -- it naturally promotes sleep. 11.Supporting your libido. 12.Promoting vascular health. 13.In conjunction with water it is actually essential for the regulation of your blood pressure. The Typical Table And Cooking Salt In Your Grocery Store Has Been "Chemically Cleaned" What remains after typical salt is "chemically cleaned" is sodium chloride -- an unnatural chemical form of salt that your body recognizes as something completely foreign. This form of salt is in almost every preserved product that you eat. Therefore, when you add more salt to your already salted food, your body receives more salt than it can dispose of.
This is important as over 90% of the money that people spend on food is for processed food.
Typical table salt crystals are totally isolated from each other. In order for your body to try to metabolize table salt crystals, it must sacrifice tremendous amounts of energy.
Inorganic sodium chloride can keep you from an ideal fluid balance and can overburden your elimination systems.
When your body tries to isolate the excess salt you typically expose it to, water molecules must surround the sodium chloride to break them up into sodium and chloride ions in order to help your body neutralize them. To accomplish this, water is taken from your cells in order to neutralize the unnatural sodium chloride.
This results in a less-than-ideal fluid balance in the cells.
You Are Losing Precious Intracellular Water When You Eat Normal Table Salt For every gram of sodium chloride that your body cannot get rid of, your body uses 23 times the amount of cell water to neutralize the salt. Eating common table salt causes excess fluid in your body tissue, which can contribute to:
*Unsightly cellulite *Rheumatism, arthritis and gout *Kidney and gall bladder stones When you consider that the average person consumes 4,000 to 6,000 mg of sodium chloride each day, and heavy users can ingest as much as 10,000 mg in a day, it is clear that this is a serious and pervasive issue.
So Why Are Many People Still Using Table Salt? Because well over 90% of the world's salt is being used directly for industrial purposes that require pure sodium chloride. The remaining percentage is used for preserving processes and ends up on your kitchen table.
With the use of rigorous advertising, the salt industry is successful in convincing you there are actually health advantages to adding potentially toxic iodine and fluoride to salt. In addition, your table salt very often contains potentially dangerous preservatives. Calcium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, and aluminum hydroxide are often added to improve the ability of table salt to pour. Aluminum is a light alloy that deposits into your brain -- a potential cause of Alzheimer's disease.
Get Salt as Nature Intended It -- Pure Himalayan Crystal Salt
With chemical dumping and toxic oil spills polluting the oceans at an alarming rate, most of today's sea salt is not nearly as pure as it used to be. Himalayan Crystal Salt is pure salt that is mined and washed by hand -- with zero environmental pollutants.
Today's table and cooking salt is void of the vital trace minerals that make this Himalayan crystal salt so precious. Crystal salt has spent over 250 million years maturing under extreme tectonic pressure, far away from exposure to impurities.
The salt's unique structure also stores vibrational energy. All of the crystal salt's inherent minerals and trace elements are available in colloidal form -- meaning they are so small your cells can readily absorb them.
The Crystal Salt from the Himalayas does not burden your body as other salts do. It is very difficult for your body to absorb too much crystal salt since there are powerful and effective feedback loops that regulate this process. Natural crystal salt always promotes a healthy balance and does not contribute to high blood pressure like typical table salt.
Crystal Salt's array of elements forms a compound in which each molecule is inter-connected. The connectedness allows the vibrational component of the 84 trace elements present in the salt to be in harmony with each other and adds to the ability to promote a healthy balance. When it comes to the power of natural salt, nothing compares to Himalayan Crystal Salt. Here's why:
*It is the highest grade of natural salt.
*Under an electron microscope, crystal salt has a perfect crystalline structure.
*It is mined by hand and hand-washed.
*Crystal salt is immune to electromagnetic fields
*Crystal Salt contains no environmental pollutants.
*There is no limited shelf life and no need for silica packets to prevent clumping.
Key Minerals in Himalayan Crystal Salt Promote a Healthy Balance in Your Body Himalayan Crystal Salt is salt in its native form, with all its vibrational energy intact and it helps promote a healthy balance in your body. Promoting balanced electrolytes helps to keep your body in homeostasis -- the balance of chemicals that is conducive to the body's function.
The renowned Frezenius Institute in Europe analyzed the Himalayan Crystal Salt and proved that it has an amazing array of important trace minerals and elements including potassium, calcium and magnesium that help promote a healthy balance by maintaining fluids and replenishing your supply of electrolytes whenever you sweat heavily. (This salt does not supply iodide, a necessary nutrient.)
Himalayan Salt vs. Sea Salt and Rock Salt: A Crystal Comparison Many people believe sea salt is a healthy alternative to table salt, but this is no longer the case. The oceans are being used as dumping grounds for harmful toxic poisons like mercury, PCBs and dioxin. Reports of oil spills polluting the sea are becoming more frequent. With some 89% of all the sea salt producers now refining their salt, today's sea salt simply isn't as healthy as it used to be.
If you were to look into a microscope at sea salt (pictured left) you would see it has irregular and isolated crystalline structures disconnected from the natural elements surrounding them. Thus, however many vital minerals it may contain, they cannot be absorbed by your body unless the body expends tremendous energy to vitalize them. Your body's net gain is small compared to the great loss of energy.
Because the crystalline structure of crystal salt is balanced (pictured right), it is not isolated from the 84 inherent mineral elements, but is connected to them in a harmonious state. This means the energy content in the form of minerals can be easily metabolized by your body. When you use this salt it has a vital energetic effect. Your body gets an ample net gain with little energy loss.
Mined salt, or rock salt, is also a poor substitute for Himalayan Crystal Salt. While natural rock salt comes close to being intact and is more valuable than industrial table salt, from a biophysical as well as bio-chemical perspective, it holds little value.
The elements contained in rock salt lack sufficient compression to be included in the crystal web, but are only attached to the surface and in the gaps of the crystalline structure. It is the considerable pressure that brings the elements to a colloidal state - where your cells can readily absorb them. The valuable elements found in rock salt are useless because your body cannot absorb and metabolize them.
A New and Different Way to Experience the Salty-Sweet Goodness of Himalayan Crystal Salt Not only is Himalayan Crystal Salt far healthier for your body than commercial salt, its taste is unforgettable. Once you try Himalayan salt, I can promise you that you'll never want to use commercial salt again - I know I don't.
And here's a unique way to enjoy Himalayan salt's slightly sweet-salty goodness with your food...
Featured on several top cooking shows, Himalayan Salt kitchen slabs have become the newest sensation for extraordinary food preparation and presentation.
Measuring a generous 16-1/2 inches by 8 inches, and a full 1-3/4 inch thick, this beautiful translucent pink crystal salt slab serves as a cooking and curing surface, and a lovely way to present chilled foods.
To grill or saut� with your Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slab, simply preheat your slab over a grill or stove and toss on your favorite sliced meats, seafood, vegetables or eggs. The Himalayan crystal salt sears your food to perfection, with a just a light touch of heavenly salty flavor.
You'll Stop Conversations in Their Tracks When You Bring Out This Eye-Catching Platter... The Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slab is perfect for cold foods, too. Chill slab in the refrigerator and then load with sushi, hors d'oeuvres, cheeses and slices of fruit. You'll love the delicate saltiness imparted to your food and the beautiful salt serving platter will become an instant conversation stopper.
Other ideas for your Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slab...
*Arrange thin strips of raw grass-fed organic beef on your chilled slab and watch as the salt cures the edges. Or try your hand at curing a batch of wild Salmon Gravlax. *Chill slab in the freezer overnight and serve ice cream on top for a beautiful presentation and delicate salty-sweet goodness. *Transfer the preheated slab to your dining table and grill fresh seafood or sliced free-range organic chicken breasts right in front of your dinner guests (be sure to use a heavy trivet as the slab retains its heat for an hour or longer). Cleanup is a breeze - lightly scrub off any remaining food particles with a dry brush and store for next use. Avoid contact with water or other liquids.
Please note that when used for cooking, the translucent appearance of your salt slab may change and small fissures in the crystal may appear. This is normal and does not affect the performance of your salt slab.
To preserve its luminescent beauty as a chilled serving platter, I recommend you reserve one slab for cooking and use another for serving only chilled foods.
Order one or more Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slabs today and introduce a little fun into your cooking routine!
You Can Also Use Himalayan Crystal Salt as a Bath Soak Not only is Himalayan Crystal Salt far healthier for your body than commercial salt, its taste is unforgettable. Once you try Himalayan salt, I can promise you that you'll never want to use commercial salt again - I know I don't.
And here's a unique way to enjoy Himalayan salt's slightly sweet-salty goodness with your food...
Featured on several top cooking shows, Himalayan Salt kitchen slabs have become the newest sensation for extraordinary food preparation and presentation.
Measuring a generous 16-1/2 inches by 8 inches, and a full 1-3/4 inch thick, this beautiful translucent pink crystal salt slab serves as a cooking and curing surface, and a lovely way to present chilled foods.
To grill or saut� with your Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slab, simply preheat your slab over a grill or stove and toss on your favorite sliced meats, seafood, vegetables or eggs. The Himalayan crystal salt sears your food to perfection, with a just a light touch of heavenly salty flavor.
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From Dr mercola.com He also says the low salt regime is a myth
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maybe people should be warned that celtic salt is not the best choice for the salt/C protocol???
On lymestrategies there is very little ongoing discussion of salt/c. Also people are censored there from talking about the problems there are having with salt/c. Some people dont do well with this protocol may due to salt sensitivity or using the wrong salt etc.
A pity because an objective discussion is needed.
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Wallace,
I haven't seen any censorship on lymestrategies about talking about the problems they might be having doing the salt/c protocol.
I have seen comments as far as how important it is to do the protocol correctly and to RAMP UP SLOWLY. The most problems are with not following this advice, and or not drinking enough water.
I have used Himalyan and Celtic sea salt in the past. I currently use Real Salt which i have had excellent results with. This protocol along with antiparasitic herbs has literaly saved my life.
Gael
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glm1111
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Wallace,
I haven't seen any censorship on lymestrategies about talking about the problems they might be having doing the salt/c protocol.
I have seen comments as far as how important it is to do the protocol correctly and to RAMP UP SLOWLY. The most problems are with not following this advice, and or not drinking enough water.
I have used Himalyan and Celtic sea salt in the past. I currently use Real Salt which i have had excellent results with. This protocol along with antiparasitic herbs has literaly saved my life.
Gael
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Here is a website of someone who had trouble with the salt/c protocol. His protocol:
Substitute 1 gram of sodium chloride tablet with 1 gram Himalayan Mineral Salt capsule and substitute 3 grams of Vitamin C with 1 capsule of Apple Poly (which works out to 4 capsules of Apple polyphenols and 12 capsules of Himalayan Mineral Salt per day for me.)
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I thought I read you shouldn't go over 12...that's a LOT of salt/c!![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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