MichaelTampa
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Just some wild speculation here ... I go through periods where I clean up metals with Detoxamin suppositories, and, always, the first night I take one, I find myself a bit wired and difficult to sleep. So, I wonder if metals are moving and causing that. Again, just wild guess.
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Hi MichaelTampa, I believe you may be right. I know I have serious metal problems and will be starting DMPS in May. I will be increasing binders.
I can't take Chlorella so I am left with silica, pectin, and charcoal. Will see if this helps.
According to Andy Cutler, those of us with mercury should not take EDTA and I learned this the hard way so I will stick with binders and AI until I see LLMD at end of April.
Thanks for feedback. I get sick of the scary symptoms. I think these drops are easier for those of us that aren't so toxic.
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GiGi
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Truesun, Take less drops - even one half drop will contain the information your body has lost.
Make certain that you take binders all the time -
Ruling out KPU is very important. I have posted the KPU info many, many times. If you have KPU/HPU, detoxing is difficult, because you are lacking the most important minerals to do so.
Take care.
Posts: 9834 | From Washington State | Registered: Oct 2000
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I'm feeling really discouraged. When I posted last, in the fall, I was unable to live in my home because of the chemicals from the plywood used in our reno. My husband sealed all the plywood with safe coat, and eventually I was able to move in again. *but* I am now homebound most of the time. If I go to town (small town, not even a city) I am wrecked the next day. I am reactive to more foods at this point than I have ever been in my life. I react with a tight chest to bloody near everything. Right now I can eat meat, fruit, and veggies. No night shades tho, and no legumes, so no peas or green beans. I react to every bloody food that has lectins.
The only thing keeping me functioning at this point is daily glutathione shots, and a truckload of supplements - brain support, organ support etc. I test every single thing before I take it. And when I say functioning - that's a just barely functioning. I'm tired all the time, and have terrible brain fog.
When I go in stores or am around people with fragrance, I start to shake, and have trouble walking normally, and my brain shuts off. THe next day I'm flattened and will often stay in bed all day.
I finished with Allergie Immun - but haven't resubmitted yet. My health is way way way worse than it was starting. Except now to maintain this horrid level of so called health I need big $$$ worth of supplements to do it. And no stopping them is not an issue - I get way way way worse when I don't take them.
I really want to believe that Allergie Immun is the right thing to do - but I also don't know where to go from here. My current Dr says that my glutathione recycler pathway doesn't work properly and that I will always need support for it. ALso that I'm reactive to lectins in foods and that that is genetic and won't go away. I really don't want to believe that my diet will always be this limited! But I get shortness of breathe when I eat any foods with lectins at this point.
I live in BC - I already have to drive several hours to Idaho to see my Dr - there is no one good near me. She is by far the best I've ever seen. I can't afford to put out this much money indefinitely tho.
I'm working on gut healing. Taking binders still. Organ support as needed (something twice a day - just different ones). I don't know what more I can do, and I really don't want to lose any more of my life to illness!
The detox seems to have been waaaaay to fast for my body, and now nothing I do seems to be right.
I don't see how I could travel farther for care either because I react to bloody everything, so hotels are out. And I can't eat anything, so without cooking facilities, and a decent store there is literally nothing I can eat. Restaurants - I can sometimes eat a basic salad with chicken - but in most places there will be something in there I'm not able to tolerate, and that just makes me sicker.
I believed really strongly in AI - and really thought I was doing the right thing - but now I'm not so sure.
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GiGi
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Have you treated parasites?
Have you and are you treating to help the toxic metals move out of the body?
Do you have the digital Smart Meter instead of the old analog that measures your electricity use?
Allergie Immun itself does not detox you and it takes some of the clathrating agents to help it along. Nobody I know with Lyme didn't have a lot of toxins stored in the body. Allergie Immun merely gives the body the missing information that it lost for a variety of reasons. But your body got that information with the therapy and unless you are exposed to newer chemicals that have not been treated yet by AI, there may still be some reaction to some.
My hunch, from my own experience, is that you are dealing with an overload of the toxins.
Have you ruled out KPU about which I have posted for a number of years and many people choose to ignore that. I have posted the links to understanding KPU many times.
I don't know where in BC you live, but there are several competent doctors in the Seattle area. Maybe you should look into someone who can deal with detox problems.
Remediation problems in the home have to be done carefully and can contribute why you are getting worse instead of better.
AI opens up formerly closed areas and it is very important to test energetically to help with the needed organ support and missing nutrients, especially, as in KPU, are the minerals.
When I was still very ill and reacted even to the air, I was not able to test myself at all. If your regulation gets blocked by any remaining toxin or other reasons, testing oneself may not give the right answer.
Did you listen to the Telephone call-in I posted a day or so ago with Dr. K. answering many questions?
I am so sorry that you feel so bad - I am sure there is something you have overlooked. The AI drops alone do not do your detoxing!!!!! They merely give the missing information to the immune system, so that it can start taking over again. It takes a lot of help that we need to supply.
People who have had extensive and the proper treatment before starting AI will have an easier time with it. Look at your first test results again.
Want to help you badly.
Take care.
Posts: 9834 | From Washington State | Registered: Oct 2000
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I haven't treated parasites - i don't have access to meds for that. And I keep reading that herbs aren't effective. I was also still breastfeeding before, and couldn't do those because of that.
Is there any treatments for parasites that I can buy online myself?
I take Chlorella before bed for metals. I take epsom salts baths. Other things?
I had the test for KPU a while back and it said I didn't have it. IS the testing accurate? I did buy the CORE minerals tho and never tested positive for taking them until just a couple of weeks ago, so I'm taking them now when I test positive. Not a full dosage yet tho usually - just 3 at a time instead of 4.
Seattle is far from me. I have 4 kids too - and no childcare options for that long of a trip, so it would mean bringing them, and as I said above, travel is nearly impossible for me right now being so limited for food, and so badly affected by travel. Could you PM me the names tho? I might be able to figure it out somehow.
The Dr I'm working with right now also said she thought that the fact I got worst after spending time on the coast not long after Fukushima was key - that because I have leaky gut and leaky brain that I was much more at risk from the radiation. It was after that visit and that I started going downhill - then we took a trip in the summer to California and i continued to get much worse, until when we came home, the chemicals in the house from the renos were just the straw that broke the camel's back. And we had them build as clean as possible too. But there is always some chemicals for sure, and it was all too much for my system.
How do I test to see if my system is open? I'm still confused on that. Right now I'm just using a pendulum. I did buy a tensor from the man someone posted about, but have never figured out how to use it, and I have consistent results with the pendulum. I find that the results make sense too - I'll needs a certain type one day, say all adrenal support - then I'll need more immune boosting support. ( I tested as having very low immunity) My brain has been consistently off, and the type of reading to learn the tensor is not one that I've got brainpower for often.
There have been some improvements, but then I'll backslide again and get super weak. I am finally able to successfully fight off visuses tho instead of always feeling like I'm about to get something, now I have found which supplements stimulate the part of my immune system that was weak, and that really helps a lot.
I don't have a smart meter - but I do still have wifi set up. I've been trying to figure out how to shut it down and still have access to the internet for my laptop. I was going to use cords, but I'm worried my kids will trip over them. I heard of a device that you can plug into an electrical outlet to access internet - but haven't been able to track down any info on whether they are safe.......anyone know?
I haven't been following here for a while, so I missed the telephone call you mention above.
I never had Lyme - I found this board because my sister-inlaw was a member here and told my husband about AI.
Would this be a good time to have chelation done to help move the metals along? What else can I do to move things along? I had meant to order some micro silica, but forgot all about it. I've got some of their clay too actually - that's good too right? I can add it back to my basket for testing.
I can't have any milks at all now, so the rehydration cocktail can't have milk added. I can't have nuts, rice, or soy, so there are no alternatives I can add. SHould I make it without the milk?
I'm drinking Wayback water as well.
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glm1111
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skiesmama,
Antiparasitic herbs and salt/c have been extremely benifical for me in getting rid of parasites.
The key is persistence, staying on them and starting at lower doses of lets say parastroy, then adding Hanna kroeger Wormwood, extra cloves, digestive enzymes and HCL.
The added benefit of salt/c deadly to these parasites as it puts them into osmostic shock and they run for the hills.
It can take several yrs to get rid of parasites, especially if you have the Filarial Worm co-infection.
This combo has also eradictaed the other co-infections. Allergies are high on the symptom list for parasites.
Doing nothing about them is not a good idea. Check lymestrategies for more ideas and the salt/c protocol.
Gael
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Can anyone recommend a good source for zeolite?
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GiGi
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Dr. K. does not recommend zeolite.
Skiesmama, some of the testing (most of it) except the physical body touching can be done (legal) by Skype now. Call A.R. in Bellevue - info via [email protected]. I do not do P.M. - it would take up too much of my time.
Getting rid of WiFi is essential if you want to get better. If you live in Canada, you or neighbors may have Smart Meter and not be aware of it. Rule it out.
Forget about chelating until you get some direction of must be first. Chelation only works if done under the right conditions and timing. If you test for CORE - take it. You cannot detox anything without these essentials. It is very important.
Take care.
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Is Glycine still considered beneficial for detox? Just curious, as I remember it being mentioned a lot earlier in this thread, but now not so much - but I can't remember if there were any negatives mentioned? It was supposed to help detox chemicals yes?
My husband was just remembering - since I'm struggling so much with any chemical exposure. He wondered if I ought to start taking it? If so - what sort of guidelines are there - dosage, fine with meals or not.......?
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GiGi
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Glycine helps with detox of many kinds. Also check your exposure to EMF and RF. www.annennasearch.com (telecommunication towers) and Smart Meter.
Hope you don't find any of these. Take Glycine a a while before you take other detox meds. It supports heavy metal detox also.
Take care.
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So take it before other binders - but still not with food? And how much? A teaspoon in water?
Posts: 85 | From British Columbia, Canada | Registered: Apr 2010
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I remember reading that we can send in a small sample of something like say a rug of we want them to test?
Could I send in a small sample of a food?
When I got really sick in the fall my Dr had me remove any foods that could promote inflammation. One of these was foods containing lectings - well those that were high in lectins anyway. I did, and it helped, except that over time I am getting more sensitive to them. Foods that I used to be able to eat that have just a very small amount are triggering inflammation. My chest gets tight within minutes of eating them. My diet is severely limited from this.
So I was hoping I could send in a sample of a couple of things - maybe nuts? Life would be so much more pleasant if I could add nuts back in - among other things.
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I just got my results back...almost everything is abnormal including gluten, mold and metal allergies.
Also getting ready to stop antibiotics and looking into purchasing a tensor to test my supplements. Anyone have any book suggestions to learn how to do this?
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I sent in samples again after many months of a break. My whole family has been doing it - 6 of us altogether. Well we started with 7, but my teenager found it too intense emotionally, and stopped after a few rounds. My husband and my youngest are finished - have had 2 checks that said they were done. I've had one letter saying I am done, but am still really ill, so I resubmitted. My other 3 children aren't done yet.
Just be ready for the fallout, because this treatment is really intense. I still think it's a good thing, but you have to stay on top of detox management. NOt so hard at first, but it's such a long term treatment, that you can slip on it after a while - and that is not a good idea. I don't have lyme disease - I just found out about AI from my sister inlaw, and since this is the only place to get english info on AI, I have followed along here.
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GiGi
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Even if you are finished with what are referred to as allergies or energetic dysregulations, that does not mean you are rid of parasites and the toxic metals that are a part of the ecocystem of anyone who is still ill or just not feeling totally super.
Do not forget to check out the effects of EMF and the new Smart Meters that have been or are still being installed in homes, often without the owners or apartment dwellers knowing about it. Toxic metals and EMF play a most serious role in our condition. I am very aware of this since I have had to go on an intense DMPS strategy, doctor managed and by myself, to work on getting the many metals out. I am old enough to have accumulated many and had all the metal installations in my mouth in form of root canals, crowns and an implant. To this day I am testing for titanium of that one implant and have to still unload much lead. We lived in Los Angeles for many years and I know that I swallowed a lot of smog.
So all of this, in whatever amount a person carries still in the body, will keep one from feeling totally well. After I discovered the Smart Meter in my house, I really started to have a major problem with the high frequency radiation and some distant microwave towers. I got quite ill and only with a lot of DMPS injection and DMSA am I finally getting some relief. EMR of any form resonates with any metal in the body and it is not a pleasant experience -- that's all I can say about it. Knowing that the radiation frequencies penetrate any structure, glass, and building materials of most homes, is not a very encouraging feeling. I thought of selling my home, but where would I go. EMR is everywhere except in the most remote areas, and I am too old to want to live in seclusion.
Luckily lightening the metal load is bringing great relief. So I want to remind you to be sure to take EMR in consideration. There is hardly a place where this is not a problem. I went to Europe to find that it is just as bad or worse there! Be sure you do a toxic metal hair test or urine test following a challenge to find out where you stand. I don't think getting well and retaining toxic metals is possible.
I had no idea that I had been holding back so much, because I have been testing positive for them for many years. But since I did not feel the EMR until just recently, I did not suspect that the metals are more difficult to remove under that condition. EMR has been around for a few years, but has gotten very intense in literally all neighborhoods where people demand more and more and faster and faster connections.
I no longer use a cell phone, or an I-phone, because in the type of surrounding I became the antenna -- am I telling you that does not feel very good? It doesn't - it feels like sticking a finger into an electric outlet 24/7 --- These are the vibrations that many people feel, especially in the early morning hours after having stayed in one spot (in bed) for several hours. We become loaded with this strange energy our body is not able to deal with!
Don't ignore it. Find a way to test your home.
AND YOU HAVE TO ACTIVELY DETOX THE TOXIC HEAVY METALS!
I posted a site today that tells how to learn to tensor or use a pendulum to find out what is happening in your body. Tensoring helps me every day and hour to find my way through the maze of questions I need answered. In Europe, many doctors are using tensor to get answers. Even my doctor uses one at home when he does not have someone available as an extra arm for ART testing.
This is a site where you can check your surroundings for antennas and possible emf falout: www.antennasearch.com
Read some books on EMF www.lessemf.com and get active against Smart Meters. Mine lets out a burst of serious radiation every 2-1/2 minutes and the supplier tells me to move or go solar!
And I have posted the site of Vern Johnson who makes an inexpensive tensor many times.
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I'm not expecting to be 100% well when finished AI - I was just explaining that I am resubmitting to be sure that I am done. MY husband needed a few more rounds after he retested, and he is very healthy overall.
I don't really feel that I am a candidate for chelation therapy, as I have had ongoing inflammation in my brain, as well as leaky brain and there is a lot of evidence that chelation can make things worse in that case. I wish it was - I'd be doing it right now.
We did shut down the wifi tho, and my husband installed a fan under the house in case there is an issue with radon (we'll buy a tester, but don't have any money for that right now.)
We don't have any money right now tho, so I'm pretty stalled out as far as pursuing any treatments goes.
I take a lot of chlorella, charcoal, clay from biopure.
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