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I have a friend who also has a nerve stimulator implanted that has used my rife machine on several occasions.
She does turn it off while rifing although one time she forgot to turn it off and no damage was done.
If you decide to give it a whirl I would definitely turn it off while rifing.
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2016 Hz was mentioned by another member here as a Rife Syphilis frequency. I could find no connection to the original Rife frequency at the time, but later did find it is quite close to the original Syphilis frequency, at a higher harmonic.
I did think 2016 Hz might be hitting cyst form early on. I now think it is hitting another form other than Spirochete form, but I do not think it is cyst form.
I gather that from the fact that the 612 Hz frequency does hit Spirochete form, and not much else. You can use 612 Hz until no herx or response is felt by the person being treated.
Then if you start using 2016 Hz they start to Herx again as a result. 2016 Hz hits another form, but I do not know what form that might be. If it was cyst form, then I should have been able to eliminate it by now, so I am assuming it is not hitting that form of Lyme.
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Do you know what the original base freq is of this 2016?
quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: 2016 Hz was mentioned by another member here as a Rife Syphilis frequency. I could find no connection to the original Rife frequency at the time, but later did find it is quite close to the original Syphilis frequency, at a higher harmonic.
I did think 2016 Hz might be hitting cyst form early on. I now think it is hitting another form other than Spirochete form, but I do not think it is cyst form.
I gather that from the fact that the 612 Hz frequency does hit Spirochete form, and not much else. You can use 612 Hz until no herx or response is felt by the person being treated.
Then if you start using 2016 Hz they start to Herx again as a result. 2016 Hz hits another form, but I do not know what form that might be. If it was cyst form, then I should have been able to eliminate it by now, so I am assuming it is not hitting that form of Lyme.
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Help me please! Anybody know freqs for stress relievers. I've got some programmed called rest and relaxation, from 8 yrs ago I programmed in?
But you guys are such help I thought someone might have a freq # that is just what I need to add to what I have. My freqs would be from naturopathic doc yrs ago:
80, 304 6k Pulse 4-3 min Sweep 2-3 min Straight 5 min on each one.
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Not sure on stress reliever frequency.
But l-theanine is good for anxiety (stress, mind racing, jittery, etc)
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The Wobenzym has helped a lot with inflammation and I suspect it helped with "sticky blood" issues too.
As far as the coiling, I spent a long time coiling for Bartonella at 832. Once the herxes went away after coiling twice a day, I continued the twice a days for 3 weeks.
Then I moved on to treating Borrelia, and experimenting with a few other frxs. In the meantime, Bart started coming back because apparently the three weeks of herx-free coiling wasn't enough to knock it all the way out.
So I'm back to the drawing board with Bart, but I'm coiling for Borrelia every week now in addition.
I think it's progressing well. I just had my amalgams all removed in April, so I'm taking some mercury binders as well.
I tried 1518 once. As far as the coil getting hot, I've learned to let it get to a certain temperature and then stop, put a fan on it for 10 or 15 minutes, then resume coiling. At 1518, I stopped after about 15 min.
I don't want to get to the point where the insulation on the coil wires bakes and begins to fall off. That could result in a shock. A pretty bad one, too.
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Holy crap chaps. You can run 1518 for 15 mins?
lol I can't even run a number in 1100s for more than 5 minutes without my AMP getting way too hot.
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How many minutes were you rifing the Bart for twice a day? Never heard of the 3 weeks twice a day with no herxing method.
I wonder what is your plan for Bart now? Do you apply this method with all pathogens you are treating?
Interesting!
quote:Originally posted by chaps: The Wobenzym has helped a lot with inflammation and I suspect it helped with "sticky blood" issues too.
As far as the coiling, I spent a long time coiling for Bartonella at 832. Once the herxes went away after coiling twice a day, I continued the twice a days for 3 weeks.
Then I moved on to treating Borrelia, and experimenting with a few other frxs. In the meantime, Bart started coming back because apparently the three weeks of herx-free coiling wasn't enough to knock it all the way out.
So I'm back to the drawing board with Bart, but I'm coiling for Borrelia every week now in addition.
I think it's progressing well. I just had my amalgams all removed in April, so I'm taking some mercury binders as well.
I tried 1518 once. As far as the coil getting hot, I've learned to let it get to a certain temperature and then stop, put a fan on it for 10 or 15 minutes, then resume coiling. At 1518, I stopped after about 15 min.
I don't want to get to the point where the insulation on the coil wires bakes and begins to fall off. That could result in a shock. A pretty bad one, too.
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Just a quick update. Nothing new, Cindy is fine with occasional treatment.
Kind of boring, but I treat the Bart and Lyme and she is good after that.
I have not been treating her often, as I have been ill with my Crohn's, and when flared up as it has been, it is sensitive to the sweep frequencies also. Since I am now again, actively treating my Crohn's, she will probably get more treatment also.
After being too busy to risk treating my Crohn's further, the last few weeks, I am also back on track doing that using Char Boehm's DNA frequencies for the MAP bacteria. I am also using a sweep of Rife's Tuberculosis frequencies.
My problem bacteria is a relative of TB, and that is why I am going that route.
They made me quite miserable, and brought both intestinal swelling and pain early on. Now I am improving more, without such a bad reaction. Just as it should go if it is working, and the bacteria is being eliminated.
I will not go into details on the Crohn's as it is off topic, but just a reminder that the frequency method is not just for Lyme, but has potential to help with many diseases, some like mine, which are supposedly incurable.
The hard part is always finding the proper frequencies.
We will see about the incurable part.
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Glad to hear Cindy is doing fine it is always good to hear how she is doing and you to!
Seems you have discovered some new info concerning Crohn's and TB?
I know if anyone can get this cured it will indeed be you!
I feel blessed that you are sharing your Crohn's journey with us after all one never knows when they might need it as well.
My stomach issues are gone now that I have stopped using the 5000 Hz. It's been over 3 weeks and no more upper GI attacks.
I don't know why it effected me so severely like that but it was the culprit and not the Bart treatments or Gluten I once had thought!
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Dan, I don't know if you've ever been to Ken Presner's site, but he claims to have cured himself of MS and Crohns using a combination of his product, called the Ultimate Zapper, a detox protocol, and supplements.
He claims that both of these diseases were caused by mercury from amalgam fillings in his case.
He sells a book that documents his recovery protocol.
Something worth checking out. Just google Ultimate Zapper Ken Presner and you'll find his site something like zap.intergate.ca.
It's interesting reading if nothing else.
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For all you coilers...
I was talking to John S about running the coil/amp for longer periods of time. He added an AC cooling fan to the back of his amp and I think Alex Levy has done the same (along with others)
Just thought I'd post the AC fan I just purchased and plan to install in a couple days.
And here's where to buy it (took me 2 days to track down a retailer who sold this particular AC fan) http://www.newark.com
If you purchase put SAVE5 into code box and the total cost is 15 bucks
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Hi Fellow rifers. Long time no see. And Hope your all well. Wow this thread has kept alive all this time. Pretty amazing. I am glad i started it and I see it has really helped so many and gotten a nice support group going. I have been out of the loop for a good while due to family emergencies and also just a break from the online stuff. Nothing personal but it was nice to be off a computer except for basic necessities.
Anything new pop up and anything that anyone can share that has been something I could benefit from knowing that you all have been discussing and or experiencing.
Its Spring... !!!
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It is Spring, and finally some nice weather in my neck of the woods.
Glad to see you back, and happy you got a break.
Yeah Chaps, Mercury amalgams certainly could contribute to Crohn's, and possibly contributes to mine also. I am slowly getting them replaced.
Basically, anything, including Lyme, that can suppress or alter the immune response can cause the disease to develop. Mercury certainly has that potential.
I am targeting the actual bacteria responsible for symptoms. It will not be a cure in the strict sense, as I will have to treat every now and then, to keep free of the bacteria. But, if it works, it will be about 100 times better than any other treatment available today.
Since this has never been done before, I have to figure it out. I think I will get there.
Dan
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Dan,
Just out of curiosity have you ever done an in-depth parasite cleanse?
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I have used MMS for several weeks, and that did kill at least one parasite, and I am sure it kills many more.
But, I have not ever focused on parasites in particular. The odd thing is that parasites, such as hook worms, are use a a treatment for Crohn's.
Dan
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Do you know what the minutes are for the 3 weeks twice a day method Chaps mentioned above?
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Juli, typically 29 minutes (5 gut + 2 mins on 12 spots)
But I often just run for 20 minutes (or as long as the coil will let me)
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Per it's maker, you work up to the 29-minute session. When you can get to 29 minutes and you no longer herx, then you continue the coiling for 3 weeks.
Because bart reproduces so quickly, you have to hit it two times a day. When you do the 29 minutes two times a day and you no longer herx, you continue it for 3 weeks.
My comment was that apparently 3 weeks was not enough, because it appeared to have come back.
But at this point, I'm thinking that the frequency I was using (832) simply wasn't effective enough.
Perhaps with the right frequency, 3 weeks might be enough after the herxing stops.
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I'm glad heavy metals has been mentioned. My
llmd suggests that i get rid of my high level
cadmium if I want to walk again. Any suggestions
other than IV ETDA?
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I do not know much about chelation, but I do know that cigarettes contain a fair amount of cadmium.
If you smoke, you may want to try quit.
I have heard of many using Chlorella but mainly for Mercury. Not sure if it binds to other metals or not. I get the impression that there is a right way and wrong way to go about this, but I really do not know enough to hazard a guess.
Dan
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Confused about which frequency to coil for with Bart. Some posts here say 832, but the CAFL list says 842. Anyone know why the difference?
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Bart has many strains so I would try both.
Dan
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Hey Coilers,
Do you guys get twitching and tingling sensations DURING a Coil session?
Particularly when you coil the low gut/pelvic area or low back/spine region?
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I'm not a Coiler but I get a LOT of twitching and tingling/vibrating sensations when I rife.
I think I asked this very same question a while back.
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To those who are interested Jeff sent me this info/link today.
Hello Juli,
Here is a link to my new updated paper "The Rife Machine Report-A history of Rife's instruments and frequencies." You may want to let those on the list know it is now avaliable.
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Hi all
Back out with my rife machine as I have been off for a couple months due to family issues. But also my feet have started to be numb and I read that electrical treatments for the nerves can help. So I put two and two together and I have a machine that has contact and as well as tubes. So I put my feet on the foot plates and am treating and hope my nerves will respond.
Anyone else used the machine for this?
Also want to get back to my detox and organ supports and the other treatments that were keeping my progress steady. I do not want to risk back tracking. Am on a new diet and even agreed to some medications for a few months. So I need to take some next steps forward in this illness. I made so much progress last year and I kinda plateaued there. Time to surge forward and i got to work hard to do it.
I believe with any of the treatments we choose if we do not detox and support our immune systems and our bodies as fully as we possibly can by taking each day and working our hardest at it we can enable the buggers to keep that upper hand. For me this has been my experience and I have been i think someone who is harder to treat than others.
So such as when I did a protocol last year I spent all my time I had on either detox or diet or sleep or treatment and I did not do a single other thing. I have laxed back from that and am ready to surge again and do another pulse of serious serious serious intensity of all the elements that work together for me.
I find that some people want to have the treatment work for them and if it does not they move on. But you have to do your part in the process and that is just as important as the treatment itself.
Just wanted to remind.. us all. Do not give up on anything until you put your all into it. Its not easy that is for sure.
But it has changed my body and my life and my outlook forward to the future.
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Hi Spring, WHY have your feet been getting numb?
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Polly I am not sure why my feet are going numb. Doc says progression of disease? i dont know and still trying to figure it out.
Katie.. Where do you live? May I ask Anyone i AZ I have a rife machine I may be willing to work with you and help you..
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Have you had your thyroid levels checked? It is always the first sign for me and my husband that our levels are off and it don't take much high or low.
Another is a lack of B 12 that can cause numbness in the extremities.
Katiebobatie,
I once was on antibiotic's and I never felt this good as I do now from rifing alone. I am now back to doing everything I once done after just 5 months of rifing.
This past week for the first time since becoming sick I was able to go back to weight lifting squats and all. This is a big deal for me considering I could barely stand to walk not to long ago.
It's been the best thing in treating the Lyme and Co infections for me. Juli
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Katiebobatie, I think figuring out the right frequency can be done by yourself with the help of other patients and your rife machine builder. But its like other lyme treatment: some are forced to do it on their own because they cannot find an LLMD to help them. Others are forced by finances. Others have learned that ultimately responsibility for getting well from this horrible disease is on our own shoulders--with others as our consultants we make our own choices.
So some of what your friends are telling you would give me pause.
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springshowers, i live in oregon. thanks for the offer though.. that's very nice of you
juli,
that is really good to hear! it looks like i may not have no choice but to go the rifing route now that ive learned my insurance wont cover IV anti-biotics.
chinalymie,
yeah, i really do think i could figure out the frequencies with all the information in this post.
i dont think any doctor in the world has all the knowledge posted here!
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Spring,
You shouldn't have gone months with no treatment.
The rife machine is too big to carry around---- so take a PE-1 with you! It's smaller and very transportable!
Then you have to get the homeopathic nosodes to use with it.
It also might help the numbness.
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Where's Metallic Blue?
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I thought I'd seen Metallic post under a few other threads recently. It is weird that he's been away from this thread for sometime.
Pam
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well, i cannot find an LLMD to help me, so hopefully ill be rifing with you all soon!
i ordered a book on rifing, and after my husband reads it, then i guess ill focus on what kind of rife machine i should buy..
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I always look forward to his post. When I was a newbie his post was most helpful to read.
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Well sucks for me. I have diverticulitis now and it's bad.
Totally inflamed and infected.
it's been creeping up on me for months (really the last year) but I guess I sort of ignored it and thought it would heal with Bart treatment.
Whenever I coil the diverticuli get inflamed.
This could very well be because the nerves are firing and causing inflammation. The frequencies are hitting Bart still - but do cause this misfiring by nerves and thus inflammation.
So do I need to stop coiling? (so confusing! - if I stop Bart gets worse!)
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Maybe you could cut back a bit on your Bart treatments? I've had to go VERY slow when treating Bart because I have gotten a lot of odd flare ups.
There were times I wondered if I would have to stop also. Seems different levels different Devils.
I would recommend cutting back your times and increase slowly. I know they say Bart reproduces fast but I'm knocking it down with what little time I've been able to rife it.
Are you using 5000 HZ by chance? I thought at one point I had diverticulitis among other things but it was the 5000 Hz causing me attacks.
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No, just using coil. So no 5000
The diverticulitis is caused by chronic constipation, gas, bloating (essentially pressure on muscles of colon wall)
Bart is still the cause for me indirectly.
It started small on lower left side and has spread up the left colon and now into small intestines.
The diverticuli (the actual pockets) become infected with all sorts of fun pathogens.
As a result of all of this I'm having to add a treatment to coiling (since coiling targets one bug at a time - wish it were that easy for me)
*Sighs* Starting MMS Monday
Thanks for response Juli
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For the record I just Coil'ed the following... ha
690, 570, 395 (4 mins gut each) 800, 727, 500, 464 (1 min gut each)
Funny how desperate times call for desperate measures : )
My father always told me it often takes a crisis for true change to occur. (so true with health)
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I know for me about two months into rifing the Bart I began getting horrible GI pains bloating, gas etc.
It lasted about 3 months for me.. 5000 Hz made it go into unbearable attacks.
I understand about the pockets and infection that comes along with diverticulitis.
Sounds like you have a good plan.. I wonder if CS might help you out also?
Hope you get to feeling better VERY soon!!!
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Thanks
Why do you think 5000Hz made it worse?
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I don't have a clue but once I stopped using it 5-6 weeks ago I haven't had a serve attack since!
On a happy note.. I'm no longer herxing when rifing Bart or should I say I haven't found my herxing point lately. No more migraines/head pressure or heartburn.. GI issues are gone now to.
Seems I just had to rife through it! (but slowly)
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So the liver is completely behind the right ribcage or below the ribcage?
The more I look at pics on Google the more it looks like if I'm coiling for Babs I should coil on top of the ribcage.
*and does anybody know where exactly H Pylori resides in the body?
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Canfan 17, Have you tried psyllium husks for your intestines? My brother had diverticulitis years ago and I recommended the psyllium. The problem cleared up right away. Also Rose Murphy talks about psyllium and Lyme athttp://coilingforlyme.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/psyllium-husks/ Sarah
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