lymielauren28
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Ok just pulled off front part of machine and there is melted gobs of electrical tape all over a few wires that run to the frequency generator. Looks like I'll just have to send it back for repairs.
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METALLlC BLUE
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quote:Originally posted by canefan17: Metallic,
A few things to keep in mind.
1) some of your early 432 sessions... the herx might be delayed and not hit ya until the 3rd or even 4th day. This happens to a lot of people early on (might have something to do with the large load of spirochetes & immune response to die off)
Today is the 4th day, nothing significant has taken place yet. More tired than usual, but not enough to attribute it to treatment.
quote: I write everything down and it took me about 3 weeks to realize every 4th day after running 432 i was herxing big time (joints, muscles, crying, insomnia, fatigue)
Hopefully I'll find out much sooner. Today I'm going to go from 1 min to 5 mins on 432. Let's see if those little bastards cook now. I may get knocked the **** out, but I need to know.
quote: Coinfection herxes tend to come on quicker - same day or next day
2) If you've done ANY abxs or really heavy herbs recently 432 might not bring any major herxing yet until the bugs surface.
The coil is very powerful. But it only hits what has surfaced.
I ran 690 for Myco 4 months ago and got nada. Ran it 2 weeks ago because it surfaced and got WHACKED. Almost passed out at grocery store and had really bad anxiety. (cleared up next day and I felt really good) [/qb]
I did Tetracycline awhile ago, months ago, Maybe 3-4 months but had no reaction at all. What are some of your recommendations?
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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September 2nd 2011 12:00 PM: This was my 2nd Treatment. I waited 96 After my last session no significance was seen 24hr after. 48 and 72 hours later insomnia worsened, along with early awakening (Bed at 10-11 p.m., and woke at 12 midnight or 1 a.m.) and couldn't sleep. I was also more tired than usual and didn't exercise the 48hr or 72nd hour. Today I am back to baseline, of 35%. Today I'll be focusing exclusively on Borrelia Burgdorferi, using Frequency 432.
Originally I planned to only use the coil for 2 mins, since 1 mins was ineffective, but instead I've chosen to take a significant risk and go directly to 5 mins. This will mean 20 seconds per body part. If the reaction is intense and painful, I'll have my answer and the confidence to proceed with therapy. Either way I will proceed, but knowing sooner rather than later is a lot less risky than IV antibiotics, which I'm headed for within a month or two. I need to know "now."
1: Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi & related Species & strains
Make: John Stoller,
Machine Model: Custom Built, Instek SFG-2004 Model, with QSC Audio Amplifier: Power output for the channel 575 watts per channel(2Channels) at 4 OHMS
1: Frequency: 1: 432
Capacitor Switches: D E F G I J K L N P (Each machine has different switches from John, so don't use mine above)
Interval: Zero(move quickly from body-part to next body-part)
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotten PJ's, & Cotton Underwear
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: None
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 60 mins on exercise bike
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: Dizzy, Lightheaded
Health Function Scale: 35%
24hr: Depression and mood changes began before this therapy began. It may be residual herxheimer reactions from the prior treatment. "Fragmented" personality changes.
48hr: Suicidal thoughts, overwhelming depression. Situational events may contribute, but fragmented personality continued, as well as a worsening of insomnia, fatigue and missing exercise.
72hr: Felt better later in the evening. Still struggling.
96hr: Sleep is poor, tired. feeling really run down. 35%
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-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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Im selling my Doug Coil, its about a year old and in perfect condition. I've just been focusing on other treatments the last few months and I really need the money.
PM me for more info.
Im sorry If I'm not allowed to post this-- I wasnt really sure...
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pamoisondelune
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annxyzz LymeNet Contributor Member # 20404 posted 05 September, 2011 11:10 PM Is your GB4000 machine helping you very much ? I have read your posts and would like to know if you are pleased with the machine and if you are improving . Thanks,
annxyzz Posts: 171 | From East Texas | --------------------------------- pamoisondelune posted 06 September, 2011 01:03 AM Hi , Yes , I am getting better. I think it's the combination of rife machine PLUS PE-1.
I wasn't really improving so much for a year on rife machine alone, just plateau.
But now that i do both rife machine AND PE-1, i seem to be making a lot of progress. Symptoms are disappearing.
That's important to know, because i thought the rife machine might interfere with the PE-1 and cancel it out, since Dr Woitsel is so strict with patients about avoiding computers and EMF's.
Something is making the symptoms disappear. Maybe some other new things help: i added rhodiola and mushroom powders, and now i take a teaspoon of chlorella powder a day, and a half teaspoon graviola powder, and chlorella-cilantro drops. (And Polygonum and Andrographis and a lot more).
Member # 20404 posted 06 September, 2011 02:39 AM Is the PE 1 an expensive machine? Do you borrow it ?
I am glad you are better. My emem is helping me a lot , along with grapefruit seed extract and artemesia annua from herb pharm. These have helped much more than 3 years of ABX .
I like to read about other people's regimen and progress, hoping to learn so I can continue improving . I am FAR better than I was a year ago.
Did you herx much with your rife machine ?
annxyzz ---------------------------------------
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canefan17
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Metallic,
I didn't get whacked with 432 until I ran 15-20 min sessions. Then the 29 min sessions brought on clear herxes as well.
5 mins on the gut (where most spirochetes aren't) might not bring you a lot of herxing
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METALLlC BLUE
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September 6th 2011 12:00 PM: This was my 3rd Treatment. I waited 96 hours inbetween sessions. Today I'll be focusing exclusively on Borrelia Burgdorferi, using Frequency 432.
24hr after the last session I experienced profound depression and mood changes. It may be residual herxheimer reactions from the prior treatment. I also felt like I suffered from "Fragmented" personality changes. 48hr after the session I had: Suicidal thoughts, overwhelming depression. Situational events may contribute, but fragmented personality continued, as well as a worsening of insomnia, fatigue and missing exercise. By 72hr: Felt better later in the evening. Still struggling. Today: 96hr: Sleep is poor, tired. feeling really run down. I am 35% functional. I'm boosting the treatment time from 5mins to 10mins
1: Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi & related Species & strains
Make: John Stoller,
Machine Model: Custom Built, Instek SFG-2004 Model, with QSC Audio Amplifier: Power output for the channel 575 watts per channel(2Channels) at 4 OHMS
1: Frequency: 1: 432
Capacitor Switches: D E F G I J K L N P (Each machine has different switches from John, so don't use mine above)
METALLlC BLUE
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quote:Originally posted by canefan17: Metallic,
I didn't get whacked with 432 until I ran 15-20 min sessions. Then the 29 min sessions brought on clear herxes as well.
5 mins on the gut (where most spirochetes aren't) might not bring you a lot of herxing
Yeah, I'm increasing the time. Had a response to the first session, but nothing significant now. I'm not performing the session on my gut, only 20seconds for that one piece. Now it will be 40 seconds. 15 body-sections, 40 seconds each, 10 minute total treatment time.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
annxyzz
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Would someone explain what MMS is , and how it affects rife and lyme?
Is it expensive ? Where do you buy it ?
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Would someone explain what MMS is , and how it affects rife and lyme?
Is it expensive ? Where do you buy it ?
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METALLlC BLUE
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September 9th 2011 12:00 PM: This was my 4th Treatment. I waited 72 hours inbetween sessions. Today I'll be focusing exclusively on Borrelia Burgdorferi, using Frequency 432.
I only waited 72 hours this time. I'm increasing to 15 mins.
24hr: Nothing, 48hr: Depression, mistyping words, back ache, sleep disturbance. neck pain, Mania, 72hr: Mild depression, improved energy, mild back ache, and neck pain.
1: Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi & related Species & strains
Make: John Stoller,
Machine Model: Custom Built, Instek SFG-2004 Model, with QSC Audio Amplifier: Power output for the channel 575 watts per channel(2Channels) at 4 OHMS
1: Frequency: 1: 432
Capacitor Switches: D E F G I J K L N P (Each machine has different switches from John, so don't use mine above)
1: Dose: 15 mins, 15 mins = 900 seconds/15 body parts = 60 sec per body part.
Interval: Zero(move quickly from body-part to next body-part)
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt,Cotten PJ's, & Cotton Underwear
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: None
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 30 mins on exercise bike
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: Dizzy, Lightheaded
Health Function Scale: 35%
24hr: No change 48hr: Back and neck pain 72hr: Mood changes, depression, irritability. 96hr: Woke up feeling like a train hit me. Quality of sleep was much worse than usual.
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pamoisondelune
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900/60 = 48 per bodypart
720/60 = 48 per bodypart
MB, i don't understand this notation--- 900 what?
60 what? 48 what?
Thanks Polly Polygonum
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pamoisondelune
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annxyz, about MMS----- Dan has posted about MMS on this thread several times. You just have to read back. For other people's comments on MMS, you should search on Lymenet.
For finding out if i herx with rife treatments, i've posted on this thread.
I'm glad it's working for you!
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tick battler
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Hi all,
My kids and I have a bad case of giardia, blastocystis hominis, and d fragilis from drinking contaminated well water this past July when on vacation.
I'm wondering if anyone has rifed for any of these these and had success. If so, can you share your frequencies?
I tried a couple of CALF frequencies on my DT EMEM last night for 10 min each and felt no improvement or change at all in my symptoms. I thought I would notice something. I sometimes feel my machine is just not strong enough. I had it about 3-5 inches from my torso. Any thoughts?
Also - Dan or anyone -do you know if Char has any frequencies for these? I can't remember her website.
Thanks so much!
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pamoisondelune
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What does the D in D fragilis refer to? Could you give the whole name?
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MB, it looks to me like you are getting some symptoms at 48 hrs? 2-3 days before a herx is typical for me for 432 Hz on the coil. My machine was also made by John S. Thanks for posting your experiences.
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mojo
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Hi Tick Battler
I use the following frequencies on my DTEMEM for all parasites:
20, 27, 72, 120, 125, 440, 800 and 2400.
I add in 112, 332, 440, 570,880 and 1200 for Filarilal recently.
72 and 120 are supposed to get most types. I don't have freq. for just what you have, unfortunately.
It wasn't until I started rifing in between cleanses that I got my parasites under control.
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pamoisondelune
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tickbattler, what frx r you using from the CAFL?
My Manual, for giardia, has
334 4334 5429 829 812 2018 407
Are they the same as what you are using?
Polly Polygonum
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tick battler
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Thanks Polly and mojo -
I used two for blastocystis recently - can't remember what they were. Thanks for posting your (and Char's) freqencies. I will try some of them. The other parasite is called dietamoeba fragilis. I think it's the blasto that is causing me most of my symptoms, so I'm focusing on that.
Thanks, tickbattler
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pamoisondelune
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I never heard of Blastocystis, but to my surprise, my manual has frx for Blastocyctis hominis, whatever it is:
365, 595, 844, 848, 1201, 1243, 5777, 210
Good luck!
Polly Polygonum
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Healing in Santa Cruz Member # 7798 posted 12 September, 2011 01:20 AM Could u share your rife dental frequencies with me?Would appreciate it. Having Big time dental cheek,jaw,tongue and gum problems.
Hepar Sulph homeopathic has helped. I have an emem 5A Thanks --------------------------------------- Here are some sets of dental frequencies which i use on my GB4000 rife machine:
Of course, Lyme and Bart can also cause tooth and jaw problems, and Candida can infect your tongue.
There are a lot more frequencies for those, too!
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Quick question for those with DT EMEM's: what is the highest frequency we can use on the machine? 20,000? or higher?
Thanks, tickbattler
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mojo
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I've only gone as high as 10,000 (for detox) - not sure if you can go higher but I haven't used any frequenices that go higher than that.
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Just looked at some info from DT regarding the signal generator. It says the frequencies to the left of 10K should always be zero (VERY IMPORTANT) - but doesn't say why??
So I'd say anything in the 10K & above (but below 100K) shold be OK. (?)
this is a guess on my part - especially since there is no reason given to use the higher frequencies.
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September 13th 2011 12:00 PM: This was my 5th Treatment. I waited 96 hours inbetween sessions. Today I'll be focusing exclusively on Borrelia Burgdorferi, using Frequency 432. I'm now up to a baseline of 15 mins, with 15 bodyparts, 1 minute each. Here is how I felt during the last treatment:
24hr: No change 48hr: Back and neck pain 72hr: Mood changes, depression, irritability. 96hr: Woke up feeling like a train hit me. Quality of sleep was much worse than usual.
1: Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi & related Species & strains
Make: John Stoller,
Machine Model: Custom Built, Instek SFG-2004 Model, with QSC Audio Amplifier: Power output for the channel 575 watts per channel(2Channels) at 4 OHMS
1: Frequency: 1: 432
Capacitor Switches: D E F G I J K L N P (Each machine has different switches from John, so don't use mine above)
1: Dose: 15 mins, 15 mins = 900 seconds/15 body parts = 60 sec per body part.
Interval: Zero(move quickly from body-part to next body-part)
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt,Cotten PJ's, & Cotton Underwear
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: None
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 30 mins on exercise bike
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: Dizzy, Lightheaded
Health Function Scale: 35%
24hr: Nothing significant. 48hr: Symptoms began, including mood, depression, irritability. 72: Fatigue, poor sleep. 96hr: Better, but some depression, aches and pain. 120hr: Woke up run down, but better considering I went to bed around 1 a.m.
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METALLlC BLUE
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quote:Originally posted by Chinalymie: MB, it looks to me like you are getting some symptoms at 48 hrs? 2-3 days before a herx is typical for me for 432 Hz on the coil. My machine was also made by John S. Thanks for posting your experiences.
Hey C, yeah it "appears" that's what is happening. I'm not sure what I should do now that I've hit 15 mins. Should I let the coil rest and continue on the same frequency or should I move onto another frequency?
Anyone with an opinion would be helpful. The "Herxheimer reaction" I'm getting isn't totally obvious to me when I'm getting it until after I see myself. I suppose I'll keep doing it until I no longer see anything strange happening 48- or 72hr after the session.
Which frequency did John say worked for him C for "other co-infections" or other Lyme frequencies?
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MB, the comment that you made at 96 hours "like a train hit me" makes me concerned that you are getting herxes that are quite a bit delayed. Not unusual with the coil with borrelia. I have found the delay is worse when I am not detoxing enough.
I would stick with the borrelia and the current amount of time, maybe even decrease. When you are ready, I'd start adding time to the liver area and work up to 5 minutes there before increasing the body parts. I'd also start to do more detox. Can you handle sauna?
The problem I have seen is that over time the "like a train hit me" becomes more frequent and long lasting and has to do with two things: too much coil time and too little detox. Some people have really crashed.
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MB, would you like to explain what 900/60=48 means?
900 what?
60 what? 48 what?
thanks
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September 18th 2011 10:30 AM: This was my 6th Treatment. I waited 120 hours inbetween sessions. Today I'll be focusing exclusively on Borrelia Burgdorferi, using Frequency 432. I took an extra day to recover. I'm working out less and thus drinking less. Increasing mild to moderate exercise may be necessary. Here is how I felt during the last treatment:
24hr: Nothing significant. 48hr: Symptoms began, including mood, depression, irritability. 72: Fatigue, poor sleep. 96hr: Better, but some depression, aches and pain. 120hr: Woke up run down, but better considering I went to bed around 1 a.m.
1: Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi & related Species & strains
Make: John Stoller,
Machine Model: Custom Built, Instek SFG-2004 Model, with QSC Audio Amplifier: Power output for the channel 575 watts per channel(2Channels) at 4 OHMS
1: Frequency: 1: 432
Capacitor Switches: D E F G I J K L N P (Each machine has different switches from John, so don't use mine above)
1: Dose: 15 mins, 15 mins = 900 seconds/15 body parts = 60 sec per body part.
Interval: Zero(move quickly from body-part to next body-part)
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt,Cotten PJ's, & Cotton Underwear
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: None
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 60 mins on exercise bike
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: Dizzy, Lightheaded
Health Function Scale: 35%
24hr: Depression, Listless, Massive Headache, Back pain, facial pain 48hr: Difficulty sleeping, felt better during the day, much less pain. 72hr: Sleep improved a little, some pain, fatigue. 92hr: Fatigue, improved slightly. Less pain 120hr: No change.
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quote:Originally posted by Chinalymie: MB, the comment that you made at 96 hours "like a train hit me" makes me concerned that you are getting herxes that are quite a bit delayed. Not unusual with the coil with borrelia. I have found the delay is worse when I am not detoxing enough.
I would stick with the borrelia and the current amount of time, maybe even decrease. When you are ready, I'd start adding time to the liver area and work up to 5 minutes there before increasing the body parts. I'd also start to do more detox. Can you handle sauna?
The problem I have seen is that over time the "like a train hit me" becomes more frequent and long lasting and has to do with two things: too much coil time and too little detox. Some people have really crashed.
I've found that I don't do as well with Sauna as I do with regular exercise combined with a lot of water and sweating. I used the Sauna for a few weeks when my ex-gf had one. I didn't feel any different. I'm recovering back to baseline though, so if it gets further and further apart, I'll add something in. I'm seeing a new doctor so I'll let him decide probably.
I'll increase my exercise back up to what I did before. It may be harder on my adrenals and immune system but if the benefit is rapid detox, feeling better, plus I'm still killing those little bastards, then I'll achieve the same result -- and when the doctor instructs changes, I'll follow those.
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll give myself more time if need be. Also what frequency would you use on the liver itself instead of focusing on other body parts?
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How come you're not doing detox? Selma says to keep doing detox long term!
I can't imagine going through a rough treatment and not trying to assuage the bad feelings. Just to feel better even! Like if i feel oppressively worse , i'll eat a couple teaspoons of lemon powder, some parsley, and then a teaspoon of chlorella, which works fast! It's a natural impulse.
You mean you want to feel terrible and you don't feel driven to find something to get rid of the bad feelings fast?
Selma says that if you don't do continuous detox, you won't improve, because the metals will just get redistributed.
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MB, what strikes me is that a number of your herx symptoms are neuro type, so being a little more proactive on detox might be beneficial to protect the nerves/brain tissue from the biotoxins. Maybe your LLMD can suggest some specific things.
I think the exercise, water, sweat sounds good if you do it every day or twice a day. Just once after treatment will help but in my experience would not be nearly enough sweating.
I'm not sure why John S recommends 5 min over the liver for 432 Hz, but for babesia treatment he says the purpose is to cover the blood well. The blood flow to the liver is profuse so 10 min over the liver is to try to really get the blood of the body well covered. So it could be that is the same reason for borrelia. The other reason might be the importance of the liver being clear of spirochetes so that it can detox the body well. But these are my thought, I can't remember if John told me that.
I'm delighted you are getting a clear response on the coil.
One thing is that we are nearing the end of the fall flare for borrelia, and my herxes to 432 hz are cutting back very quickly. It also appears that my bart might be on the rise again. So be alert for a shift in the current hierarchy.
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Were you using an IR Sauna or just a regluar one?
My IR sauna is a life saver. It ALWAYS makes me feel better.
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Hi all,
I need help...I am very sick from an e coli infection which we all got from our house well. Earlier this summer we were all infected with giardia and blastocystis hominis when on vacation. I think they may be gone but in the meantime I have been getting sicker and sicker with this e coli infection which we got from our well at home. It is affecting my breathing and I can't sleep due to waking up after an hour with my heart pounding and trembling inside. My EDS practitioner found it in my lungs, heart, kidneys, chest wall, and brain. I am scared.
I have rifed with a GB 4000 twice...the first time only for blasto and giardia and protozoa and did have die off that night (didn't sleep at all) and then was feeling terrible the next day. Then I felt Ok for a couple of days and was able to breathe better but then 4 days after that session my symptoms came back. I rifed again on the 5th day (yesterday) for e coli frequencies and blasto and felt a tiny bit better for a short time and then felt terrible last night and today. Only slept 2 hours last night and have been nauseous today with shortness of breaath but did eat a small bit. I did a sauna and that helped temporarily.
I am hoping rife will help. Has anyone had success rifing for e-coli? I have noticed that my urine is bright yellow...I guess that's a good sign of die off? Can anyone confirm this?
I don't know if there is another treatment. Would MMS only kill e coli in the gut or do you think it would help for lung infections, etc...
I think my infection spread because I was taking flagyl for something else and I heard that you shouldn't take abx when you have e coli or it can spread to your other organs, as it did for me.
I can't function very well right now. I need someone to give me hope and ideas of how to kill this. Has anyone tried Char's frequencies for it? My practitioner tested olive leaf and coconut oil and it showed that it would kill it, but it seems to be working very slowly.
Thanks,
tickbattler
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While I am not totally back to normal, I am able to function today and eat again, so I guess it was die off that I was experiencing from the rife session on Wednesday. Wow - I felt like I was dying.
I think I did a pretty long session - what do you all think about this: I did the autochannel for e coli and the other one for the mutant e coli strains. Then I did several frequencies at 5 minutes per frequency for blastocystis hominis in case I still have that. So I rifed for almost an hour and a half with the GB 4000.
Thanks for your input!
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I just heard on another thread from kimmie that she killed off her good bacterial flora through rifing...and her c diff came back. Has anyone else had this experience?
Thanks,
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pamoisondelune
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Are you doing detox to help ameliorate the herxes?
Yes, there are other treatments. "Brussels" knows how to treat you using homeopathy, and a bunch of people here do LED infrared photon therapy with the PE-1 or Bionic 880, accompanied by homeopathic nosodes.
If you feel like you're dying, did you take something for detox, to feel better?
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I haven't had the problem of killing good bacteria with rifing that I know of. I seem to be recovering in that way to some degree because I've been able to stay off abx with rife. I've also treated c diff with rife and it has stayed away so far.
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Chinalymie,
What frequencies did you use for C diff? It worked?
That's really important if you know some frx that work! Did you have C diff?
Thanks! Polly Polygonum
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September 23th 2011 10:30 AM: This was my 7th Treatment. I waited 120 hours inbetween sessions. Today I'll be focusing exclusively on Borrelia Burgdorferi, using Frequency 432. I took an extra day to recover. I've increased my workouts again to daily. I feel much better that way.
24hr: Depression, Listless, Massive Headache, Back pain, facial pain (Very intense flare) 48hr: Difficulty sleeping, felt better during the day, much less pain. 72hr: Sleep improved a little, some pain, fatigue. 92hr: Fatigue, improved slightly. Less pain 120hr: No change.
1: Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi & related Species & strains
Make: John Stoller,
Machine Model: Custom Built, Instek SFG-2004 Model, with QSC Audio Amplifier: Power output for the channel 575 watts per channel(2Channels) at 4 OHMS
1: Frequency: 1: 432
Capacitor Switches: D E F G I J K L N P (Each machine has different switches from John, so don't use mine above)
1: Dose: 15 mins, 15 mins = 900 seconds/15 body parts = 60 sec per body part.
Interval: Zero(move quickly from body-part to next body-part)
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt,Cotten PJ's, & Cotton Underwear
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: 5 minute Donna Eden Energy Routine.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 30 mins on exercise bike 10 mins of body stretching
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: Dizzy, Lightheaded
Health Function Scale: 35%
24hr: Back ach, neck stiff, but nothing particular. I hadn't gotten much sleep. 48hr: Baseline (Later on, poor sleep and "blah" feeling. 72hr: Depression, Fatigue, poor sleep. 96hr: Poor sleep, fatigue, decided to wait another day. 120hr: Fatigue, poor sleep.
[ 09-28-2011, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: METALLlC BLUE ]
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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quote:Originally posted by pamoisondelune: How come you're not doing detox? Selma says to keep doing detox long term!
I can't imagine going through a rough treatment and not trying to assuage the bad feelings. Just to feel better even! Like if i feel oppressively worse , i'll eat a couple teaspoons of lemon powder, some parsley, and then a teaspoon of chlorella, which works fast! It's a natural impulse.
You mean you want to feel terrible and you don't feel driven to find something to get rid of the bad feelings fast?
Selma says that if you don't do continuous detox, you won't improve, because the metals will just get redistributed.
----Polly Polygonum
I've added a Detox regimen.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
METALLlC BLUE
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quote:Originally posted by Chinalymie: MB, what strikes me is that a number of your herx symptoms are neuro type, so being a little more proactive on detox might be beneficial to protect the nerves/brain tissue from the biotoxins. Maybe your LLMD can suggest some specific things.
I think the exercise, water, sweat sounds good if you do it every day or twice a day. Just once after treatment will help but in my experience would not be nearly enough sweating.
I'm not sure why John S recommends 5 min over the liver for 432 Hz, but for babesia treatment he says the purpose is to cover the blood well. The blood flow to the liver is profuse so 10 min over the liver is to try to really get the blood of the body well covered. So it could be that is the same reason for borrelia. The other reason might be the importance of the liver being clear of spirochetes so that it can detox the body well. But these are my thought, I can't remember if John told me that.
I'm delighted you are getting a clear response on the coil.
One thing is that we are nearing the end of the fall flare for borrelia, and my herxes to 432 hz are cutting back very quickly. It also appears that my bart might be on the rise again. So be alert for a shift in the current hierarchy.
We'll find out what else he wants me to do when I see him. I'm also doing a 5 mins energy routine by Donna Eden that should work fine. I sweat like crazy because I wear a sweat shirt and sweat pants with a tee shirt underneath, then I switch out shirts when I'm done and I shower. I'm stretching now too daily, so about 15 mins of stretching, plus the 5 mins routine and 30 mins of bike should be sufficient for now.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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Yes I have posted in this thread in the past about treating c diff. I treated C Diff with 387 Hz on my coil machine, and so far it hasn't come back in terms of symptoms. I also have a muscle testing vial that I have used to check this, and it no longer comes up as positive.
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MB, I notice that your herx seemed to occur sooner this time. That could be because you have increased detox, I seem to have seen that effect to some degree. I also notice that when I overdo the coil treatment, the herx will start sooner (and be more severe and last longer.) It takes awhile to sense the right rhythm for treatment.
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Chinalymie, thanks for the C Diff frequency, 387!
It shows the importance of Repetition for emphasis, repeat to remember. I read all the posts on this thread, ongoing, and i copy-paste tidbits about important topics like C diff, but i don't remember your C diff post and didn't copy it.
Actually on a list i see 3 frequencies listed for Clostridium difficile----- 387, 635, 673
but yours is the first post i've read that says they actually work!
Thanks for the input!
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Another CAFL frequency set that really work well, are the ones for Mycoplasma Pneumonia.
I have been coughing up buckets of crud and had a high fever since using them.
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You are welcome. I may have posted this a long time ago: I looked at the 3 C Diff frequencies on CAFL and eliminated the one that also listed lyme or other co's as I didn't want to complicate things. Between the other two, 387 Hz gave me the most clear response.
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Dan, are you referring specifically to the CAFL listing for mycoplasma pneumonia? There are several sets for mycoplasma, I notice.
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