my results from allergie-immun just arrived. I haven't had time yet to translate them but it seems like nothing is in the normal range. I will order the treatment tomorrow but it still isn't clear to me what these drops are made of. Does anybody know?
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Would you mind sharing your results when you get them translated??? I am looking into doing this... you can PM me if you are not comfprtable posting in an open forum..
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I am in the process of translating mine. My understanding is it is a remedy just for you and is a combination of energetics and photons - not homeopathic.
Not sure how it is made but hey, as long as it works.
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I sent them an email looking for more of the feedback (200 cases that Gigi mentioned), but have not received anything back from them. Are they good about responding to emails?
I have been wondering if it would help my 3 1/2 year old's peanut allergy.
so, you just order the test first. then after the results, you order the treatments? Not both at the same time?
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Maureen you can either do the test first and then order the treatment or order both at the same time. The test is 90 euro while treatment is 305 euro. This includes further testing and all the cycles of treatment you need to do.
Nana do you know what Ausscheidungsystem is? My online translator says "separation system"....which doesn't make any sense.
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ericaf - it means intestines.
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Try translate.google.com. It says "Excretory system" which may have been more clear than "Separation system". I am almost at the end of week 2 of the drops. They made me feel very tired as did they most of the others I have spoken with. I am hopeful that they are doing some positive changes, but we will see what the next round of testing reveals.
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Does anyone know if you have to be off antibiotics to pursue this testing and treatment?
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There's been alot of info about AI under the "KMT" thread.
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Thanks, ericaf. What payment method did you use?
This has all prompted me to download the Firefox tranlation tool and what a great facility! I've been reading lots of info on the AI site and have decided to try their test and remedy.
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Are any of you doing the drops with biophotons?
I am wondering how it would work to take the drops, then use light on the gates, and also length of the spine for organ accupuncture points, along with a solar plexus vial of global blood RNA/DNA.
I'm getting good results that way with generic allergy substance vials, and this might give custom made drops a boost as well.
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Is there a primer on these merdians and gates? I think if I could envision that clearly, I would get half this info! Are these the points you have posted, bejoy? I look up acupunture meridians and the human body is so full of them I get brain collapse in over drive. I am so sorry to be so dense. I wise there was a primer section with all the homeopaths and such listed, applicable meridians. I am such a jumble at this point. Robin
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"I am wondering how it would work to take the drops, then use light on the gates, and also length of the spine for organ accupuncture points, along with a solar plexus vial of global blood RNA/DNA.'
No, Bionic works at a different level. AI works at DNA. The drops are extremely, very, very effective - you would not want to add any light to them. Not recommended.
Since antibiotics would deliver a totally different information to the body, it is not recommended that any meds are done, except when they are very necessary (blood pressure, heart, etc.)
Take care.
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agree with gigi. The drops will likely cause a reaction all by their lonesome. From what I understand, the drops are essentially deeper information--as gigi said-- bundled with photons, so treatment with the bionic or other photon therapy would be redundant or unnecessary.
relapse shouldn't be a concern, because the drops are removing barriers to permanent wellness. Regardless of what stage you are in treatment, it seems like it would be make any treatment thereafter less repetitive, more productive
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We were told by AI to put "all thoughts or worries about any infections peacefully to rest". They do a broad range of testing of everything that might have been a problem at one time. That is also what I find testing. That is what my ART practitioner also finds -- nothing. An occasional metal. We are now working on chemical toxins - which, we are told, are the worst problem for everybody because of the constant exposure to so many.
We have got to clean up our act - us and our environment if we want to live a good life. That's where it started. Not with Lyme. I am convinced of that.
Take care.
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Is it safe to use a rife machine when doing the AI treatment? Or should I first do the AI teatment and then use the rife?
Thanks, J
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I am on round 2 of the drops. 2 nights now I have had very vivid dreams which others have also reported. My second round showed all chemical toxis (5 of 7) and mercury. I found it hard to believe that mercury did not show up in the first round and there it was in round 2. Too early to report whether or not this treatment is working but I do feel it has strong impacts on the body and remain optimistic.
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I have a few questions for those of you doing (or have done) the drops.
Do ou know what they are composed of? What do they taste like? How many weeks do you take them?
And is there a page of testimonials that you could direct me to??
I'm definitely very interested in this, need to decide if I want to try this or take the abx that will likely be prescribed at my LLMD's visit next month (I've never taken abx for Lyme, rarely have taken them in my life).
Oh, last question (I promise!), have you noticed any herx symptoms, besides fatigue???
there might be very mild, almost indiscernable mineral-y taste. as I understand them, they're just water drops bundled with photons carrying the desired information.
I didn't herx in the traditional sense. Similar to when I used the bionic.. I just got tired. A few nights I was sweating up the joint, but that's about the only thing besides fatigue.
However, I was releasing metals. Binders were testing pretty consistently, so I know the allergies were allowing my body to release toxins it's been holding onto for who knows how long..
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How did you all get turned on to this firm in the first place? Doctor referral?
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I'm very interested in doing the Allergie-Immun test/treatments, however, I'm wondering when is the best time to do it.
I'm currently working with an ART practitioner and taking one antibiotic (Bicillin), many supplements, several "Healers Who Share" vibrational remedies and a few medications.
I'm planning to go to Germany for Bionic treatment in about four months.
Would now be a good time to do the AI treatment, given everything else I'm on? Or should I wait until stopping the antibiotic or meds, or perhaps not until AFTER Bionic treatment?
I hoping that some of you who are currently doing AI might have an opinion on this.
Thanks!
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Seekhelp, I learned about Allergie-Immun from Gigi as I'm sure everyone else here did.
AndrewInCa - had I known about it last year, I would have done Allergie-Immun before I went to Germany for Bionic treatment.
Blockages get cleared, your body is retrained to release the toxins/metals it forgot how to or nerver knew how to let go of and your body stops attacking you when you eat what should be harmless foods.
Makes sense to me that all this would make biophoton treatments all the more successful as there would be far less to deal with.
The Allergie-Immun remedy works on a different level then meds and supplements and hopefully Gigi will come along and explain more about that.
I believe in an earlier post she shared a conversation she had with the folks at Allergie-Immun and they suggest taking only meds that are absolutely necessary.
Hope that helps some and good luck with your plans to do A I and your trip to Germany.
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Just curious as to the likelihood of eliminating multiple chemical allergies....
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When doing the Allergie-Immun program, is it necessary to avoid exposure substances you are allergic to?
Just thinking of NAET and other programs where you avoid the allergen (like certain foods) for a certain period following the treatment.
Also, do you avoid anything before you do the testing?
How long do you take the drops for? Sorry if these have been answered elsewhere. I'm continuing my reading.
Thanks. I'm considering doing this.
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We got our third test results today. We find that our body does not react the way it should to 10 chemical substances, 6 reaction-relevant foods (thiw could be ingredients, oils, etc.) and three biologic substances.
I am not even going to try to sort this thing out - because I do not understand a lot about the process. All I know is that I can feel every drop I take in, and not only that, all the emotional blockages are also found and treated.
A couple of days ago I relived for about 2 minutes the rushing, chest crushing effect and sound of a 500 ton American bomb falling less than a mile from our home in Germany - in 1944 when I was 13 years old. It is like rewinding a movie. We get ill on several levels and will only heal if we address all levels.
If I had to do it over again, now being aware of AI, I would have done this therapy on day one before anything else. All the attempts to detox heavy metals and chemicals including the inherited ones, are next to useless if the body does not recognize them as toxins. So we think we are detoxing - well, maybe a molecule or two, but the majority remains with you, until the body finds its new regulation. This is what AI is all about - it takes the errors out and reprograms the system, so that it can clean up as it should have done all along.
We are born with a few errors in the system and pick up a few on our own during our life. Amy Yasko's test didn't answer a darn thing for us, but AI gave us the answer and offered the solution.
We still have a ways to go - the older, the more accumulation. Kids sail through this therapy wonderfully and well - even our 39 year old son is having major improvement just one week into the drops. He most likely inherited my husband's wheat allergy because he started to have problems early in life.
Reversing the polarity at all the blockages at the DNA level - is all it amounts to. It can only be done in small sections, and so the only thing to keep in mind is that it is not done in a week. AI tell me that it is the most difficult thing for them to keep people doing the drops, even though they may not see any results for a months or three month. A recent MS patient took close to a year to get out of the wheelchair and be functional again. I heard of a woman in a wheelchair with a bleeding brain - she is walking in the park again.
They do not recommend working with other frequency treatments, lights, etc. The body is very busy doing its thing with 15 drops of informed water! I can testify to that.
We are waiting for our #3 bottle of drops. We will only stop when all my husband's symptoms are gone or if they can not longer find any errors in the system.
Take care.
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NAET is not treating at the DNA level and therefore is not a permanent solution. It did not wipe out my metal allergies nor anything else permanently. We were treated by the NAET founder herself.
They only recommend going easy on the foods that really cause you a problem - and then only for the first two weeks, when most of the primary food allergies are erased.
You don't have to do anything specific before the test.
They recommend not adding any homeopathic treatments at the same time, because any frequencies such as homeopathics deliver may be confusing to the body.
You will find most info on their website. I have rarely seen such an informative website - sadly it is not all in English.
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GiGi I had tried NAET years ago and I don't think it helped. Do you feel the AI is the best other than the Biophoton in Germany?
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Andrew, did you decide to go for the AI now? When I emailed the site for advice, telling them I have Lyme and co and am on abx, they said you can take the tests and drops AT ANY TIME.
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I don't believe GiGi will be replying as she said she's left the forum on another thread.
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How long does it take to get the test and then to get the treatment after ordering? I emailed them this question a couple of times, but they never responded.
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Does anyone know what is in the drops specifically.. how the water is informed?
Thanks, Robin
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The company (AI) can't even explain how it works and admits it on their website. I'm sure others here may provide a better educated guess based on their knowledge of energy medicine.
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I got my test results in just over a week from the time I mailed them (US west coast).
About 8 days later, they e-mailed me a link to a pdf file of the report that I could print and save.
I had only ordered the test to start with, but as soon as I'd read my results, I ordered the treatment. I would imagine 1-2 weeks to receive the treatment/drops.
Hope this helps. Nutmeg
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Nutmeg,
Were the results what you expected? Any thoughts ahead of time or inclinations as to things that bother you?
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I can figure how they work in the big picture sense.. I want to know what is in the drops.. they have to know how they make them.
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Wasn't Gigi already cured of her Lyme and everything BEFORE the bionic? Didn't she say she was surprised to have gotten a bit of a herx from that one?
So...
Is Gigi using these drops herself? If so, did she relapse or something?
Or are they for her husband?
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I think both Gigi and her husband uses them. That's what I recall reading.
Cured of Lyme may not mean perfect health. lol. I think many on this board have this perception Gigi is the picture of absolute health and has no issues whatsoever because she may have knowledge others can't understand or access to.
I don't know her personally or live in her body. We can't presume anything. Hopefully the Lyme issues never came back and she's trying to wrap up loose ends.
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I thought she had posted to that effect in the past, that the Lyme and friends were gone, and she was symptom free.
That was why this confused me.
I can see giving it to her husband, as he is still very symptomatic -- if I read correctly -- but why would she need the stuff herself?
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My results were interesting (to me anyway...LOL!).
Energetic blockages in the spine match all of the areas where I have had injuries, pain, arthritis, stiffness, and muscle/connective tissue/nerve involvement.
I had no faulty processing of food substances and industrial toxins that were tested. Did have faulty processing of 3 molds and 3 fungi, and to 4 of the metals. These metals match up to the ones that always show up in higher levels on my toxic metals tests.
No energetically blocked glands (hypothalamus, pituitary, pineal, thyroid, etc). There is an enzyme dysfunction, but I have not read what that's all about yet.
No genetic weaknesses in genetic tosins, bacterial disorders, bacteria, or viruses.
I had major dysfunctions and/or blockages and low energy or flow in all of the bioenergetic systems they tested. Everything was in the high yellow or well into the red zone. Also high toxic body burden of recirculating heavy metals and contaminants.
Bioenergetically blocked areas from traumatic events. I have been working on these for years, so I wonder what testing would have showed before I did all that.
I think the results show why I can't get well with anything I've tried. It doesn't matter too much what I eat or take, something (many things?) systemically are not working well, and I'm not clearing out toxins as well as I need to.
I'd really like to understand this better, so I've got a lot of reading to do before I start the drops. Looking forward to some resolution!
Who knows, maybe Lyme and coinfections are not even a factor?
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Gigi is not here, for what I know, Gigi was in remission before she went to Germany last year. She had been in remission from lyme for years.
Her hubby had also gone through remission periods, but lyme surfaced again with his other health issues lately. He had troubles to walk, some Parkinsonian problems etc.
In fact, Gigi went to Germany to treat his hubby mostly, not really herself at first hand. She used the Bionic on her ancient broken ankle when she was there, I think she's got an implant or so in her ankle, and ONLY AFTER using photons there, her borrelia reapppeared after years being dormant. She got an EM rash next day or so.
I'm talking all this through memory, if you'd like more details you gotta scroll through her posts since about July 2008.
I had an almost exact issue for my borrelia. It had been dormant since September 08. After first days using photons in January (not to kill borrelia, as it had been dormant), I got a lyme revival.
That is what I'm treating now. So I do think photons can make dormant infections alive probably because it activated our immune system? (a guess).
Gigi and her husband are also older than most of us (in the late 70s or early 80s, if I'm not mistaken), so you can imagine that they could be having many more health troubles than most of us here in this board.
I also had been lyme free for months, and it didn't make of me someone in perfect health, even though it was MUCH better than when I had active lyme. I still had loads of skin candida, fungi and many many other infections to treat, mostly on my skin and GI tract. Just borrelia and all my tick born coinfections were dormant.
So yes, getting lyme down is not the end! Gigi's theory is that there must be something BEFORE we fell sick with lyme making us 'weaker' to have such chronic condition. That is why she has been doing AI too.
I see kids being bitten with ticks every year and they don't fall sick. Adults too, many many. I fell sick after my first tick bite ever and so did my daughter. Every time we get a new tick bite, 2 out or 3 times, we fall sick again.
So, I think she's right. We need to treat other deeper health conditions, not only the borrelia infection, to be in better health, so that we don't fall SO sick every time we get a new tick bite.
My daughter was in remission from borrelia for more than a year. This January she got a relapse. She had been out of lyme treatment for the whole of last year (except when she caught TBE after a tick bite, but it was not lyme but encephalitis)... So yes, people relapse...
To my view, anyone can profit from the AI approach, even the ones called 'healthy'. Husband doesn't have lyme, never had, but has allergies, so I think he's one that would profit from the AI drops.
I hope this helps.
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Can one do the AI drops at same time as abx treatment? Or is this not advised? Thanks.
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Thanks for the detailed response, Brussels.
I understand better now. Good luck with your own therapy and health.
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I asked the AI folks if one could take antibiotics at the same time.
The answer, from the head researcher, was that the drops act on a different level, so they don't interfere with any other type of treatment. And, that many people with borreliosis were doing this. (that is not verbatim)
I re-asked about it being ADVISIBLE or OPTIMUM to take the drops while on antibiotics, and received no reply.
GiGi had said that one shouldn't be taking antibiotics at the same time. She didn't cite anything specific at the website relating to this.
Pausing the antibiotics isn't an option for me right now--I'm on Mepron and Zith now almost 8 months, and don't want to let the buggers have a long "time out" to reproduce again!!!!!
I personally decided to do the drops anyway. I'm waiting for them to arrive.
Best,
Cass A.
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The only thing GiGi told me that might possibly interfere with the AI drops is homeopathic remedies. Everything else reportedly works on a different level.
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