runner21
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Hi ,I am just testing to see if this posts..have had a really hard time here the past few weeks..seemed to have gotten banned.
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Ok perfect!
A few weeks ago and about 2 pages back, i was trying to comment on the thyroid thread. I got knocked off of here..but am able to write in again. Dr. K at Healing the brain said when you take thyroid and its not working, quite often its teh receptors are blocked. this is even true for my bone health. In my case, i was blocked due to metals. My calcium and iodine are sky high..yet i have bone loss. and low thyroid. (body needs iodine to make thyroid hormone) I was blocked due to mercury. I am so happy i did the hair test, for i wouldnt have known this. i just wanted to share this piece of information, albeit it seems quite common knowledge, not everyone is aware.
I was tested yesterday for my bone health. we isolate the bone vial and my bone vitality was down. We put some standard process on the plate for bone health and my viatlity went up to a 5 on a 10 scale. You know what was bringing it down, YES GIGI..LEAD. Lead is in my long bones and its why i am having bone loss..my bones are mistaking the lead for minerals.
DK really emphasises on the hair tests, dont look at the bad metals..look at the good elements. you want those numbers to skew all the way right.....when this happens the metals take care of themself. that is why the minerals are so vitally important.
Just thought i would share.
Also i wanted to ask , for any of you that were at the conference, what type of glycine is good for chemical detox? DK suggested this..and i have forgotten.
Take care, Runner
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Runner, glad you made it back in. Us poor banned people - the folks wouldn't know what they are missing!
Trimethyl Glycine is the one that works. I am using it for my husband with some b6, B12 and Folic acid to bring the homocysteine level down. It's good to have this tested with a regular lab test. Ask your PCP. Important. And the levels are needed to be lower than what school medicine accepts as normal. Per Dr. K. My husband had a problem with it being high for a number of years. It is coming down, but not quite low enough yet. Glycine aids in any detox. Search some of the Klinghardt protocols.
If you do a search, I posted on the subject a few months ago.
Runner, thanks for sharing.
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Is Zeolite okay to use for detox? I like switching the detox up a bit. I'm waiting for my 7th round of AI.
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Thank you Gigi, haha..yes they wouldnt know what they were missing !
Its funny you mentione trimethylglycine. A while back i found a jarrow product on sale and i bought it becuase it read methyl donor. it tested well.. its b12 folic acid and B6 and tmg by jarrow. its called Homocystein protection factors pf. maybe this might be of use to you bc its all in one pill..
thanks again!
p.s. any thoughts on laser detoxifciations?
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Welcome back Runner! So funny when I saw you at "Healing the Brain" - I knew the minute I saw you that you were Runner!!
Hobo - I used zeolite quite a bit early on (probably too much). I think it can be constipating - was for me. I'm sticking with Matrix Minerals. Some of Dr. K's writing mentions that mineral supplementation can really help with metal detox.
You can find his exact words if you google around.
LP - welcome back to you as well. The Bahama's- NICE!!
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Missed you runner!
Thanks for sharing your notes...
"Dr. K at Healing the brain said when you take thyroid and its not working, quite often its teh receptors are blocked. this is even true for my bone health. In my case, i was blocked due to metals. My calcium and iodine are sky high..yet i have bone loss. and low thyroid. (body needs iodine to make thyroid hormone) I was blocked due to mercury."
Runner, While you were "away", I was having issues with the thyroid...and tested by ND that I needed iodine! This info you posted makes sense to me for my situation...dealing with a mercury/iodine/thyroid issue. I don't know if actually taking a supplement of iodine is really what I truly need...even though I am doing this off and on when I test for it.
I probably just need more heavy metal detox and basic mineral support to clear the metals. Along with continued root canal clean up! Hopefully AI is working on opening those blocked pathways of mine!
Interesting connection for you also with lead in your bone. Many of us probably have this issue of our body mistaking those bad metals for good minerals.
Hope by working on this your ankle begins healing!
Nana...sunshine finally felt great...and got some good natural vitamin D!
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I'm taking the matrix minerals too. It's one of the few products I can feel working.
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Just received the box with our drops from Germany, and there were 2 instead of 3 bottles. (husbands' and grandsons' only). The letter says that my last "sample currently shows no further energetic relevant disruptions. However,it might take some time for your body to restructure all matter".
I was on the drops for a total of 12 bottles. I had some issues, but I was not noticeably unhealthy. My sense of well being has improved and I feel good that all the miasms, disruptions,allergies, etc. were addressed before they became serious. So glad to have done this therapy! Thanks to GiGi for finding it.
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Congratulations Clancy!!!!!!!! Hope the rest of our family gets there soon.
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Wow Clancy...great news!!!!
Looking forward to others getting near the finish line too!
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Clancy, good show! Now you can drink your water plain....!
We got ours yesterday, #11, husband had a ton of flaws - 7 chemical groups, 4 biological, 9 energetic blockades and 9 regulation disturbances - no wonder things shift from one day to the next. He actually has to relearn certain motor functions from scratch - like a child. Either infections or metals wiped the connections out, probably both.
I had still some 7 chemicals and 9 biological material, and the metals are still flowing every day.
Husband is now testing for parasites with Biologo Parasite, which could be almost anything. Parasites and metals and everything keep house together and now that metals moving, parasites are being disturbed, and of course they are also holding toxic metals in their coats. It could be remnants from Babesia, amoeba, worms.
It is well known that when heavy metal toxicity is present, parasites are present also, because the gut is weakened by the metals, viruses, fungi causing the leaky gut. Mostly it is caused by mercury vapor from amalgam fillings that is absorbed by the trillions of nerve endings in the gut! and often sent back into circulation. And if you have had extensive abx, the gut flora has suffered.
Taking the metals out will be felt, but leaving them weakens the immune system further and invites infections. I certainly can feel the removal all over my body, tolerable, but help myself with anti-inflammatories when I test for them.
I took my second round of AI and am falling asleep at computer or walking! So, best wishes to all until next time.
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Thanks guys :-)
And thank you LP for the laser feedback. I have been reading alot on the autism sites about laser and removal of chemicals. i am just not sure how this would play into ai and it may just be too much.
Light i can really relate to what you are saying. Iodine is very important for the thyroid to function optimally. Also as we have previously discussed, chlorine can interupt with the bodys ability to utlilize iodine. I have also found supporting my thyroid with glandulars helps alot (standard process makes thytropin) and supplementing with armour. When my thyroid is working better my gi tract is much happier. And mercury and thyroid go hand in hand as you had mentioned. I do agree with supplementing the minerals and detoxifiying is what will allow the system to come back on board, but in the meantime what are we to do! So for me, i took thyroid . Also it seems this is the same very case for the immunity. mercury and lead are causing my immunity to drop and the virus to flourish. Gigi was right on about this. and when i see it in my testing, i am just more and more familiar with the concept and it helps. alot. it seems like an ecosystem, environmental toxins and bugs are in layers. metals create a flourishing ground for the virus..so when you go kill a virus or parasite, here comes themetal, and you must have something on board to bind to it. will be nice to get off the merry go round at some point. Also, DK suggested coconut water for minerals as well. you can make a cocktail with matrix mins, coco water and some almond milk to make everything last a little longer. whole foods has the coco water on sale this week for $3 for the liter size. The minerals are just so vitally important. I feel i am at a major need for them. For my leg, i found out i have a labral tear. i am treating it currently with prolotherapy. Take care, Runner
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Clancy,
As you are done with the therapy for now, please share what you believe has changed positively with the AI for you...any specific allergies etc? Or anything that has not changed you wished to have cleared.
Also, will you send in another saliva a few months down the road to see if you are still clear?
As AI has said...regulations still happen for a time after therapy is complete.
So happy for you!
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Runner, laser treatment (infrared - we have the laser and vials) a la Cowden does not work for most people. It cost us a fortune and we are still removing/correcting the chemicals now. You see it among the older autism protocols because C. was very active in that group. All the chemicals are still showing up now in AI testing. Do not waste your energy on it. It didn't even work temporarily.
Green laser a la A.R. calms things down and works beautifully in injuries, cuts and bruises. Check her website for more info on lasers.
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I am wondering if any of you can tell me about Naet allergy elimination therapy and whether this is similar to allergy-immune?
I am considering doing the Naet as a start for my children while they are still on abx. I do plan to do the allergy-immune once I am able to take them off abx.
One of my boys has OCD repetitive ticks as well as attention issues - does anyone know whether either Naet or Allergy-immune could help this?
Thanks,
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Anyone else with joint pain all over? Just completed Round Three.
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I had joint pain that came and went during several rounds. I have not had it for several months now.
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lp, one of the significant improvements for me from the AI is structural. I used to go to my P.T. 2x/month for c 1 help and migraines. Since starting the drops over a year ago, I've only been twice. I've, also, had GI improvements,(able to tolerate dairy better) and better sleep.
Would like to send in another saliva sample down the road but don't know what their protocol is on that.
I know that I still have metal issues, but they seem to be moving. Have to remember to do liver and kidney support so I don't get in trouble! Right now my thumb joints are acting up - probably metals? Many issues probably got addressed that I'll never know - for me it was worth it.
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Yes, Wise, I feel it too. Though I have a very high pain tolerance and I would not call it pain, but just barely achy and sore.
Mobilization of toxic metals and chemicals as well as mold causes joint pain. For me it is a feeling as if I had excercised straight for weeks and therefore am sore all over - uric acid being knocked out. Joints with foreign deposits for a lifetime now being displaced. I think that is a very normal reaction. HG always tells how we have simply packed the stuff away, somewhere. Now it must leave and we are feeling it.
Metals lodged in joints and ligaments causing inflammation before and doing the same as they are now being pushed out. If you read the explanatory text that comes with the Biologo Inflame, Biologo Parasite, etc. it is easier to understand. If you can't get products similar to Biologo, MSM will help, I tested Glucosamine formulaes -- all that helps. Try the CGF = Chlorella Growth Factor which is a chlorella extract. Biopure carries it. Or take a lot of chlorella and make absolutely certain that you do not get constipated even one day. It all needs to come out now.
I checked all the ingredients in Biologo and would have purchased some separately at the health food store if I didn't have access to Biologo. It's wonderful stuff, but takes a bit of doing to have sent. Very detailed information is contained in their catalog describing every single product, the purpose for it, and its ingredients. Please read it just for the information - it is very worthwhile.
The Biologo bottles I had sent through a friend with a private address as the sender came through fine. A couple of the Biologo that I had sent direct to me are still hung up at customs in LA. I expect to get them soon. It gets stopped at Customs as soon as they see a business address as the sender. For your own use - is important - not for resale.
Do whatever you can to find what helps you to move the metals, etc. out. It is easier for children - they do it with charm - but it gets a bit more involved when a bit past teenage.
The wonderful thing is --- the toxins are now moving and on their way --- just a little extra help will do it.
Take care.
P.S. "the only way out - is the way through" is Dr. K's mantra - when it comes to shaking the tree and moving metals.
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Just sending off for round 12. I am having a some joint pain right now too. Large bones and small joints. Nothing unbearable but noticeable.
Have a had a sharp pain deep within my ear, in the middle of the night a few times. Don't know what it is but taking it as a good sign.
Things are definitely on the move and I'm needing organ and lymph support daily. Dr.A D said my body doesn't really do very well with binders - wants "flowing agents". Biologo comes in handy for this.
Finally enjoying some sunshine here after all the flooding.
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Click on English. Click on the on the little info button beside each one. Great info and does not interfere with AI to my knowledge or experience.
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I just sent for my third drops yesterday. I haven't noticed anything much yet other than a lot of depression and anxiety and terrible fatigue. Do you have any idea how long this could last?
I know everyone is different but I just need a little reassurance I guess that this will let up soon. It's really bad and I'm having a hard time dealing with it.
I have a lot of stress as I'm taking care of my mom with alzheimers. It's so hard with me so sick. I'm trying to find some help as I'm having to cook all her meals and I'm not able. My husband helps as much as he can.
I just thought you all might know of something I can do to ease this feeling of wishing I just didn't exist. (not suicidal at all)
I just spent 3 days in bed with fatigue really bad and short of breath. It's quite a bit better today. I just feel like giving up all treatment and just let this disease win. I'm so tired of fighting.
I'm hoping tomorrow will look a little brighter.
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Oh Connie, I'm so sorry. That is a terrible position to be in where you are so tired and feel sick and need taking care of and yet you need to care for your Mom! What a wonderful daughter you are! My Mom had to do the same thing with her Mom and she was exhausted.
I too am waiting for my third round of drops to arrive so I honestly can't comment on how long the symptoms of anxiety, etc. will last as I too am new to this....but I will pray for you that it is short lived!
Also, the only thing I can think of to give you a break is looking into Meals on Wheels for seniors? Do they have that in your area? If so, they will deliver warm cooked meals to your Mom and give you a chance to relax.
Or do you go to a church or can you find one in your area? Many people would love to help someone like you and all you need to do is walk in the door and ask! Everyone these days needs a little help in some way or another!
Lastly, the thing I always think of when something is sooooo bad is that "this too will pass" - just remember, no matter how hard, that eventually things will change. Life just does that and from your conclusion in your last posting I think you already think that way :-)
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Sapphire,
Connie,
Hang in there...you do have quite a lot going on personally when caring for someone with alzheimers as well! I also am a caregiver for both of my inlaws with alzheimers, and now my husbands Aunt with progressive cancer and felt so much as you describe at that time!
The work and care is overwhelming let alone to also feel sick! Hopefully you are getting good nutrition for yourself as well. This is key. Many days I did not have the energy or mind set to even eat...this was very bad! I was in bed many days like you!
What helped me through it in the beginning, before AI, was juicing and getting the nutrients,vitamins, protein and Omega 3 and 6 oils. I made green smoothies from fresh kale/spinach carrots and apple, with the oils and flax seed and added a form of protein powder.
I felt so much better immediately the days I would take nutrition in liquid form. Didn't know then that my body was not absorbing nutrients naturally as my gut had major issues. AI has now corrected this for me.
The drink gave me better energy and a better mind set. Helped with depression. I also wished I knew about my bodies need for minerals at that time.
Zinc helps depression...and if you have KPU...you will need to supplement with those specific minerals. This has helped me. Hope you have had this tested.
So I hope you are feeding yourself additional minerals and amino acids. This helps with depression and an overall sense of well being as you body begins to regulate and heal.
This gave me a kick start prior to beginning the AI. but if I felt like you do today, I would enhance the liquid nutrition asap!
And if you can get outside and take a daily brisk walk...away from caregiving for awhile...you need a shot of vitamin D from sunshine and endorphins to get you feeling better too. To be grateful for the day!
I eventually asked people from my church to help me at times when I needed a break, to come and make lunch or give the meds to my inlaws for me. I will pray for you that you get alll the relief you need!
blessings, lp
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Connie, I just finished the Third Round of Drops. I had extreme fatigue, depression and leg numbness with Round One; loads of energy and less depression with Round Two; and some depression and deep joint/bone aches with Round Three.
I'm no expert, but I can safely say each round has been radically different. Gigi once told me to become "Mrs. Lettigo" and it was excellent advice for the rougher times. If I allow myself to believe that each new symptom will pass, it really helps the depressive part lessen.
I also went through my mom having Alzheimer's and that is exhausting enough. Seek help and respect when you need to use it -- your body is telling you important messages. I know that it can be inconvenient and daunting, but now is the time to listen carefully to the AI shifts.
LP, Clancy, Gigi and Nano -- thank you for your posts re: bone/joint pain. I am looking into Biologo right now to help ease some of the detox stuff. All of your insights and information are so valuable. THANK YOU!
Best to all on what has been a beauteous Spring Day,
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thank you gigi,i will chekc ou tthe gren lasers. appreciaet the feedback. runner
I am also sooooo sore and achy. i feel as thought i have ran a marathon! AY!
I am on round 9 now.
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Runner,
For the ammonia, test/try Butyrate. I have not used Yucca - so don't know. Pharmax carries Butyrate. I posted somewhere recently about using the pulp from juicing because it contains the very food for microorganisms - the usually good microorganisms. They make butyric acid out of it as well as other valuable things that we need for our healthy function.
You are better off tossing the juice and eating the pulp! That is how I feel about juicing. You need to make sure that you use only organics for juicing, because it is so concentrated and you would also get concentrated pesticides,insecticides and other chemicals! If you put some of the good juice into a jar and mix it into the pulp, you can eat it throughout the day and do yourself a lot of good.
Oh, just realized you asked by e-mail. But now it's here and I will leave it for others in case of interest.
Butyrate has sort of a smell and you will want to close the container quickly. But it works.
Also look up the ingredients in Biologo Leaky Gut and Inflame. That may give you some ideas for digestive/detox problems. I like to steal ideas from the smarter people (scientist of Biologo) - and I know that it is good stuff.
Also great is D+ Galactose. You probably heard the lecture on Myoreflex/Mosetter at the Dr.K. seminar. I posted here about Galactose three years ago and it was happily ignored. It should be available in this country within weeks.
My myoreflex therapist friend has or will have some soon. I just got some for my husband. It is pricey. Some day we will have this dukat producing donkey in the shed!
Take care.
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oh that is great GIGI. Thankyou.
I have been curious about galactose for quite some time..
am familiar with the concept of eating the pulp,sometimes i mix it in with saurkraut.
or save the pulp for homemade veggie patties.
does the ammonia come from the gi bugs? is this why its hard to get in the protien?
Take care and THANK YOU a bundle!
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Another strange symptom.
I liken it to a sore throat...but not the throat nor any soreness I have felt before.
almost a burning on the top of my mouth, near where the throat begins...top only.
Doesn't appear to be a cold nor sinus infection, and I do not feel sick at all, but I am getting lots of eye drainage and at night coughing up some mucus like I did initially starting the drops, for the past three days now with this annoying burning sore feeling.
Feels like something is getting released in my mouth. We'll see how long this lasts.
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Thank you GettinHealthy, LP and Wiser. I appreciate the support.
Today is much brighter so far. It sometimes starts out that way but then shifts for some reason. Can't figure out what changes. Maybe just the stress of caring for my mom.
We are on a waiting list for some help with her so hopefully that will come soon. It won't be much but anything will help.
The only thing I did different was last night I did a castor oil pack. Maybe that helped I don't know but I will be doing more. I'm trying to do as much detox as I can, too. I haven't had the KPU testing and don't even know how to go about it.
I just started juicing and doing protein and green shakes. Not sure it's changed anything yet but I've only been doing it a short time. I'm trying to get better nutrition as I know it can help lots of things.
Sorry LP and Wiser that you both have had to deal with alzheimers. It's a terrible disease to have to watch your loved ones go through. I'm so scared I will end up with it as my mom is the 4th one of her siblings to get it. My memory is so bad now and it scares me. I don't want to put my kids through that.
Thanks again, hopefully things will keep looking up.
Connie
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heiwalove - i tried to reply to your PM but your box is full.
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Most detoxing takes place in the early AM hours. But the debris is still with us before we get up and that is the reason we often feel so miserable when we wake up.
Pull up the Chinese Organ Clock from the internet. That explains what happens during day and night hours. I have posted it several times on Lymenet. Liver is most active between 1 and 3 AM. If you wake up in the middle of the night - that tells you that you need to get more liver support. The liver is stressed.
Need to get to breakfast!
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Light, wonder if this could be allergies? any mucus associated with it?
Also, since you have posted on the dental stuff maybe you are getting a release..always nice to be able to test this stuff..
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Dear Friends,
While waiting for my next round of drops to arrive, I got Dr. J's book, "Beating Lyme Disease," (newest revision), and there are some very worthwhile discussions and exact recipes in it relating to detoxing and AMMONIA.
He has a product, Neuro-Detox II, which he uses to get ammonia out of the brain and other areas of the body.
Well, since I'm in a detox mode now (charcoal, chlorella, flax seed, zeolite, etc.), I ordered some of it, and have been taking it for about a week now. (This formula is not to "treat" any specific area, just for general detoxing)
I do feel that my thinking is clearing up while using this.
At this point, that's the only significant improvement so far. But, that's GREAT, in my opinion!!!!!
I'm not taking a full dose, either. I'm increasing the dose day by day.
It looks like the one 4-oz bottle will probably last me 1-2 months.
His therapies and approaches have been discussed here at Lymenet quite a bit recently, as one person just was at his clinic for a week or two, and has been filing reports.
Hope this helps!
Best,
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It's nice to see that Dr. K. recommends AI. If you don't speak German, "emphiehlt" means "recommends" in English. Too bad the enormous video is all in German.
I am sure these two guys (Dr.K. and HG) have had a talk or two together -- beyond school medicine. I will have to ask a few questions next chance I get.
And to think that neither knew that the other existed until I told them so .... makes me feel quite good, and in the long run will benefit many.
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I have had that same symptom you reported--the burning or irritation between the nose and mouth/throat--while on the AI drops. Probably 3-4 times in the year I have been on the drops.
It's the same feeling I get when I am coming down with a cold, but when it's from the AI drops, it never progresses to a cold, and I don't have any other symptoms, except perhaps a little nasal congestion.
I've also had that same type of feeling in my throat or tonsils, also from AI. Probably 6 times in the year I've been doing the drops. Again, no other symptoms, except some redness, and no progression to anything worse.
In most cases it started as soon as I started a new set of drops. During my very first round, it started a couple of hours after the first drops, and continued for the whole two weeks and beyond. That's happened other times as well.
As best I can figure, it may be a dormant virus or bacterial infection being reactivated. I've had lots of those throughout my life, from childhood on.
My sense is that it's not an allergy, but something infectious. I suppose it could be anything, really.
Anyway, just wanted to let you know you are not alone. If you want to search back through this thread for my posts, I'm certain I have written about it before.
Take care, Nutmeg
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GiGi
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The adenoids/tonsil/roof of mouth is very clearly explained here. What went up, is now coming down, i.e. toxic metals made their way up into the brain/brainstem and are coming back down in a similar way, with a little more hard work. Up was a lot easier.
Slight inflammations, the body's natural defense, are part of this. For the same reasons, we feel it in joints and and limbs when the detox sets in that was turned on more and more with every bottle of AI.
This is the reason for doing AI. The longer the problems have existed, the longer the immune system was silent, the longer it will take to get the garbage back out.
Got to go.
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Hi LP and Nutmeg,
I get this symptom a lot: both within the illness itself and more specifically since starting AI. ....
...Sore throat, irritation, whoozy feeling in the eyes/head as if you're coming down with flu or a virus etc.
I've been lucky enough to have been reading this thread from Lanzarote for the past 10 days [ we had to cancel our holiday last summer because of illness, so this was a very special time in a lovely unspoilt spot away from tourist resorts]
Both my husband and I noticed that I had more stamina in terms of being able to walk a bit further than has been typical in the last few years.
I have also recovered faster from the exhausting travelling and the edema in my legs has been nothing like as bad as usual after a flight:
I have been taking Kirkman's Beta-Glucan and some Curcumin for a number of weeks alongside AI, so these may be contributing.
I hadn't got my log-in details when I was away, so it was very frustrating not to be able to chip in!
I got back yesterday to find my 8th drops waiting for me: 12 chemical blockages and 7 energetic blockages this time.
Sapphire, I can really empathise with you, as I was the only carer for a while for my mother who was still insisting on living alone but had dementia and had developed an alcohol problem alongside it.
The two conditions made each other worse, especially as she is very strongwilled and she kept falling over and injuring herself and needing to be taken to A and E.
It got so that any time I wasn't with her I was flat out on the settee sleeping, feeling too ill myself to cope, but worried sick about her.
I think the Lyme makes memory problems worse, but try not to assume that you will go the same way: I really hope AI can help untangle the inherited illness dispositions as well as any personal sensitivites/allergies.
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Thank you Carry. I needed to hear that about how the AI maybe can help with inherited illness dispositions. I do worry as I'm already so forgetful but at least I know the cause for now.
Sorry about your mother. It's a hard situation for sure. My mom was drinking all the time too till she got the dx of alzheimers and the dr just told her alcohol kills brain cells and she hasn't touched another drop. I'm so happy about that as I couldn't deal with that on top of this.
Glad you had such a good time on your trip. It's good to hear you had more stamina, ect. Hopefully you will just keep improving and getting stronger.
Thanks again, Sapphire
Posts: 495 | From KY USA | Registered: Dec 2004
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As arthritis symptoms and muscle aches increase, I am getting small fevers and feeling pretty miserable. Is this the immune systems saying "hello" or something more?
Anyone else with little fevers?
Posts: 273 | From Banks of the Hudson | Registered: Nov 2008
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Cass A
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Dear Friends,
Just got Bottle #11 yesterday! Some blockages still showing up, and some chemicals and biological substances.
I'm getting through Dr. J's (Kansas one) book, Beating Lyme Disease, and I really appreciate some of his insights!
For example, I've known for many years that having a low body temperature was a really, really bad indicator and needed handling. No practitioner I've read has talked much about addressing this.
Dr. J does, and says it is a MAJOR problem, as it indicates cold core temperature that slows down or impedes nearly every major body function. (However, it's an environment that viruses and Bb LOVE!!!)
I also appreciate that he doesn't just bring up problems, he also has solutions. Most of these can be constructed by the interested individual. He does have quite a few products of his own, but I found them reasonably priced.
His botanical formula for dealing with ammonia seems to be helping me personally.
Best,
Cass A
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GiGi
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Wise, My husband had this slight temp (around 99F) a few years ago during detox. I took him to ER and insisted on checking appendix. Yes, it was bursting. So do not ignore any temp.
Slight inflammation is possible, but never temp. There is diff between feeling warm and temp. So am not clear what you are asking. Temp is not normal.
You need to pay attention to binders, binders, binders. Consider also Chlorella Growth Factor (CGF at Biopure) - it is closer to the micronized chlorella which are in Biologo products. Do liver and kidney support. Castor Oil wraps overnight - . Go to protocol of Klinghardt/Derksen Autism I posted so many times and pick the items for support. http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/AmyDerksenART3presentation.pdf They have all proven supportive for the very thing you are doing with AI. You are releasing toxins now and you need to support yourself. Especially if you have had longterm abx and other pharmaceuticals. You are also releasing chemicals, phthalates, mycotoxins, etc.
We take Biologo Inflame. If you do not have access to it, consider some of these:
Anti inflammatory herbs improving liver function making sure that toxins provoking or sustaining inflammation are drained from the body. Red Root, etc. Micronized chlorella, CGF (Chlorella Growth Factor - Biopure). It binds and removes heavy metals and chemical toxins. Digestive enzyme Bromelin dissolves protein deposits and produces anti inflammatory effect. Glucosamine strengthens connective tissue and generates new cartilage
Learn to test yourself or find someone to test you to pinpoint what your body needs right now. You can avoid suffering if you learn to tensor or similar. Some of the above can be rubbed into the areas that ache - mix it into coconut oil and make a salve. Especially these type of aches - with rubbing in the substance you reach the nerve endings almost instantly rather going through digestion and stomach acid processing....
I rub in and use little green laser which goes with me everywhere. Husband has stiff neck occasionally, rub in anti-inflammatory and green-laser 90 seconds, and the pain diminishes very quickly.
MSM is one of the best for aches and pains when detoxing.
Become inventive - don't suffer, please.
If you have access to Biologo products, we are using all of them now, as they test. For us, it is either now or never, and so far, great!
Sorry, no time to read and correct - time for my bed!
Take care.
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Gigi -- thank you so much for your post and phone conversation.
My fever lasted 48 hours on and off. Evidently the children next door also had a brief bout with fever for the past two days.
I just got my fourth round of drops in the mail today. They came quickly this time. My "score" continues to rise as we peel the onion: I'm no up to 12 chemical substances, 9 energy blockages and 2 toxic substances.
Waves of pain radiating from both shoulders down to my elbows, forearms and wrists flares significantly throughout the day and leaves me tired and nauseous. Other aches and pains are manageable. And I'm still mentally clearer than I ever was on abx.
I am doing the Rehydration Cocktail, Chlorella, Fish Oils and Probiotics. Also take Cranberry/Flaxseed water and 1/2 lemon w/hot water in the a.m.
I'm going to order the Biopure Chlorella Growth Factor tonight. Which do you recommend? Liquid, capsule or powder?
Which brands do folks like for glucosamine, bromelin or charcoal? Also, is it bad to be taking Chlorella when using Bentonite Clay or Charcoal at the same time?
I got my tensor from Vern and am trying to learn how to use it. So far I am bumbling....
And so, the proverbial search for detox support rambles on.... some days I am braver than others... today I'm only part cowardly!
Best to all.
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NanaDubo
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Hi Wiser - I've been using Douglas Lab Bromelain-5000 and a good deal of it lately! Tumeric as well. Would like to find bromelain that doesn't have mag stearate in it!!!!
Those painful shoulders and arms for me, feels like inflammation associated with metals and those two items are helpful along with MSM. I like the powdered form MSM mixed with a little juice.
Metals moving out of tissues - metals moving out of everywhere here!
I have a tensor from Vern I use to travel with as it's smaller. It's not as sensitive as the Biotensor (for me at least) and took some working with. Hang in there, it will get to know you.
Yogi makes a detox tea that I am liking a lot these days. Very calming, but there is one ingredient that your colon can become dependent on so I only have a few cups a week. No senna or anything that strong though.
Glad your feeling better off the abx.
I will be visiting "the Banks of the Hudson" in May when my baby graduates from college!!
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