Truthfinder
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All of the remedies I've ordered from the U.K. and India work just fine. I don't remember any special wrap from the ones from London (too long ago), but the ones from India were packed with just Styrofoam around them, and they are DEFINITELY still potent and work fine. All came in amber glass bottles (though the ones from India are just barely tinted.)
Even airport scanners don't seem to bother them- as long as they are in glass bottles. One homeopath takes her kits to Indonesia every 2 years, and the remedies in these same kits work fine for her. The kit boxes are just plastic. She said she's never tried traveling with remedies in plastic bottles. So, maybe the glass acts as a decent barrier?
Looks like it might be awhile yet before AndrewInCA has some time to post about the HWS drops, but I'm sure he will when he gets some time.
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Is anyone doing any lyme and co treatment while taking the AI drops?
As most of you know, I was plannnig on being in Germany this week getting the bionic treatment, and have been off of antibiotics for 4 months, and doing no killing. Basically just detox and nutrients, preparing for the bionic.
I feel the lyme is attacking me in the brain again.
Any suggestions on a protocol as I am doing the AI therapy? This could be several months before I make it to Germany now.
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Dear LP,
I just completed about 260 days of Mepron/Zith before starting the AI drops about three weeks ago. I'm waiting for my second round to come in the mail, so I'm off all antibiotics, etc., at this time also.
I didn't stop taking the vitamins and minerals that help with leg cramping and seizures.
Also, I'm taking the simplified methylation protocol recently discussed here on Lymenet.
Personally, I'd recommend doing the methylation, as this helps with detoxing. (Along with any other detoxing you do--my LLMD recommends chlorella). My LLMD--Dr. A--says that this protocol cuts down on treatment time by about 40%.
I'm also taking niacinamide (100 mg) about every 2-4 hours. This seems to help with cognative problems.
You could try some of the herbal remedies--Buhners or Cowden, for example.
Best,
Cass A
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I just received a reply from AI concerning a question of whether he see lyme in my results.
He does not see lyme, but see's things related to antibiotic use!
It's hard to understand exactly what he means by this with his translation in German to English. some of the meaning gets lost.
It could mean: his test does not show the diseases like lyme
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Question.....did any of you get really sick after starting the drops. I feel like it has stirred up every infection I've ever had in my entire life. I'm herxing like crazy and am on an abx break, so I don't get it.
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Cooper - I wasn't feeling horrible when I started AI. Each remedy has been different for me. With the first one I either was tired or had a lot of extra energy.
Went through a lot of emotional releases as well as toxins with the second and third. A lot of the energetic blockage in my intestines has improved.
The third is working with chemicals that show up in the testing and it was by far the roughest for me.
Mr. Grundmeyer at the lab says that this is very, very hard work that the body is doing. A lot of rest is required.
For me, when regulations are taking place, it is not always pleasant but doesn't last very long.
It is different for everyone. My husband is doing the remedies as well and feels nothing except a little tired.
Each remedy is working on something different. We could never handle it if were happening all at once. I feel fine but have gone through some rough days on this.
These are issues we were born with and/or have had for a very long time. Not a quick fix. I will continue with the drops until no dysregulations are found.
My reason for doing this was to get to the bottom of how I could have gotten so ill in the first place and allow the corrections to be made.
Borrelia has been gone for six months but the tick bite was just the straw that broke the camels back 9 years ago (IMO).
The terrain had established itself and is now being cleaned up.
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KPLYME,
HOw long have you been treating the lyme and co-infections, and do you feel any of it has improved before you got off antibiotics and started the AI?
It seems like most people who posted about their AI Drop Treatment experieneces are in a better place physically before they began the drops, either by using the bionic 880, or after detox and feeling well enough to get off abx.
I haven't seen any posts of those just starting with the AI drops with not long history of lyme and co treatment.
I'm sure there have been some.
Just wondering at what level functionally you are and about your previous treatment to see how the drops are affecting you. This info could help others as well judge how treatment could progress and some of what to experience.
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Thanks, lymeparfait, for responding. Yes, I've been on abx for years and was in a good stable place when I started the drops. This is my first round of AI and felt fine the first week, but at the start of the second week I had a severe sore throat, killer headache, eye infection, bad cough, etc. I almost never get colds or flu and this seems a little different. Strange.......seems like a big ole herx!
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I started round 4 of AI drops today.
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Please let me know what do you cleared from it when you get the answers.You are ahead of me. You can write me privatly !
Are you done with CHEMICALS yet? My son is ahead of me too.
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Still had chemicals show up in round 4.
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ok I was hopping they were gone..but I guess is not that easy .
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Fatigue, smelly urine - that's about all I notice. Oh, and vivid dreams. Stop when I am not on the drops and come back when I am everytime.
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Thanks Scott.
I haven't noticed any big symptoms, except possibly fatigue, as the past several days I have been extremely sleepy in the middle of the day.
It isn't the debilitating type of fatigue I used to feel with my ebv and active virusus, but I feel I need to take a nap. Then I"m rejuvinated. Not sure if this is related to the drops, but I am into week two of the first round.
Also lots of "not so nice" gas. My family is not appreciating my presence this week.
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Thank you Nana...and everyone.... for your inspiring replies.
Do the folks at AI know what the co infections are...ie: Babesia Bart?
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I just got my results from the second saliva sample I sent right after I completed the first round of drops.
According to the results, I have ONLY TWO areas left to be corrected--some chemical toxins!!
I'm astounded!!
We'll see how the second round goes!
Best,
Cass A
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Just sending off for round 4.
I am expecting to be dealing with more chemicals in round 4 as well.
Cooper - I don't know the answer about co-infections.
If they are working on having the body return to a state that recognizes toxins, viruses etc., as "invaders" that have long been unrecognized, I can only guess that everything is addressed even if indirectly.
Have you tried emailing them with questions?
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LP - we'll have some fun on the phone when your biotensor arrives.
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CassA, how do you know that is all that is left? Did they specifically say that? They find things in layers. So that may be all that showed up, but it doesn't mean that is all that is left unless they somehow said that??
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CassA, curious as to whether you feel any better after doing the AI drops? For example, any specific symptoms reduced? Thx!
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Dear Friends,
Scott: OK--all that showed up in the second test was two chemicals that are named. It also says that 14 unnamed chemicals were found, but that these have been corrected already.
My first test had lots of substances with bad reactions, blockages in the spine, and much more!! The results from THIS test say that those are all fixed!
I was surprised that so little seemed left to deal with.
Anyway, I'm in an email conversation with Herr Grundmeyer about my results. He sent me something in incomprehensible English, so I've asked him to write to me in German, which I've studied in the past, so I can translate it myself.
If the 3rd test shows more to handle, well, that would be fine, too!
Tonglen: As for results, some things are better and some things are not. I've only done the first round, mind you.
At this point, my tinnitus is worse, and I now have some light vertigo again, which I've not had for about two years. However, my ability to think is much better, I have more stamina, and I seem more stable day to day.
My temperature still tends to be subnormal, and I do HAVE to take a nap at least once a day. Other annoying symptoms also persist at this point, but nothing debilitating.
Also, I've been off antibiotics now for a little over a month--I stopped Mepron/Zith at a good termination point and let the Zith exit my body before starting the AI drops.
I'm expecting the second set of drops to arrive within a few days!
Best,
Cass A
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Thanks for the updates everyone. This is SO helpful.
Two questions:
1. When you folks write to AI (Grundmeyer), do you just write in English or do you translate your message into German before you send it? (Seems like someone mentioned this but I can't find it.)
2. Has anyone noticed if symptoms they've had the longest seem to be the last ones to disappear? (I'm talking about things you can `feel', like tinnitus or anxiety or vertigo, etc.)
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This kind of stuff is what is being referred to in the documentary, The Living Matrix. Addressing dysregulation seems to be where quantum, physics based medicine is going.
The documentary is fascinating. I am doing NMT and I do not know if it is as effective as or less effective than AI or NES for that matter, which is mentioned in the documentary and which did lead to one woman's healing.. (NES)..
But my body temp has gone up and my hair is not falling out. It could be the cowden herbs.. ??? I'm hanging in with it as the cost is relatively low. Neuromudulation Therapy. Then I plan to look into AI if I feel I need another kind of dysregulation therapy. Energetic drops with NES and AI as opposed to energy field therapy with NMT... all to address dysregulation.
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I go to translate.google.com, write my message in English and hit, translate to German.
Then I cut and paste it into the text of the email to Mr. G.
I find he understands it better that way, but he sends his replies back in his own broken Engish, and sometimes it's hard to comprehand his exact meaning.
It may take a few attempts in emails to get the meaning, but he always replies.
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Tracy - your second question:
I find I have revisited some of the first symptoms I had which had not been present for quite some time.
For the most part they have been brief visits but not pleasant most of the time. I am in hopes that my body was bidding them farewell.
As far as translategoogle goes- you can experiment with writing something in English and translating to see if it makes sense before you put it in an email.
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oops - what I meant was to translate it twice - English - German and then to English.
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Thanks LP and Nana - yes, I knew what you meant, Nana. Good idea to 'double-check' the translation by translating it back to English. I would not have thought to do that.
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I have finished round one of AI several weeks ago . I have never felt so fatieged and tired as I do now. I am most likely one of the sickest people doing AI on here. I have been diagnosed with M.S. for 19 years and several years ago with lyme and Mycroplasma.I am really hoping this is a good sighn such as feeling bad when one is herxing. Terri
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Dear Friends,
As for translating my questions into German--I haven't tried that! I have, instead, worked to make the sentences very, very simple!! No commas. No phrases. Etc.
Then, I have him write back in German. I've used the Google translating engine on his replies, and (from my knowledge of German) these translations seem to be accurate.
I asked him if there was any evidence of Lyme in my second test. He said no--that I was free of Borreliosis now. He also asked for me to send him the results of any test I have done.
I don't know quite where to go with this datum. Since I have tested positive via IgeneX, Bowen Labs (twice--at the highest level!!), and the lab that replaced Bowen and have a low CD57, I really don't know what test I could do that would show if Lyme is gone NOW.
Suggestions??
Best,
Cass A
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Kissis, I'm sorry to hear about the persisting fatigue..... have you written to AI and asked them if this is `normal'?
Also, since it has been `several weeks' since you finished round 1, do you plan to continue the treatment at some point?
All I can say about the `fatigue' thing is that when I have taken homeopathic remedies that worked well for me, I usually experienced profound sleepiness at first. This is considered a very good sign by homeopaths. But this `tiredness' usually does not persist longer than a couple of weeks, and usually there is some improved sense of well-being in the mental department (not necessarily in physical symptoms right away - mental improvements usually come first followed by physical improvement).
Cass, do you think they want `new' tests or `old' tests? It almost sounds like they would like to see any new tests to confirm their findings. (?)
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Dear Tracy,
Yes, he clearly wants new tests. I had a new CD 57 test done about a month before starting the drops, and it was 36--the same as over a year ago!!! I've been treating for Babesia most of that time, and not Lyme.
I'm very interested in what test I should have done now, as my LLMD's plan was for me to go onto IV Rocephin next, plus Bicillin, to treat the Lyme!
Any suggestions????
Love,
Cass A
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No, Truthfinder I have not written to inquire but it's not a bad idea. But from reading others exp. it sounds similar. I think I just feel extra weak and tired because I usualy am but never at this degre. I just sent in my second test so I will be doing round two when they arive.I payed out big bucks for me so I am going to stick this out while crossing my fingers.
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Does anyone know what these drops have done for GiGi at this point? I'm sure some of you still talk to her. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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Does anyone know if the drops would expire if not immediately used after receiving them? That is, can I use them a month after receiving them and expect the same potency? Thank you.
I had a bad sore throat with my first round of drops, too. It was very sore and very red, and I also had a few tonsil stones. No sign of white spots in my throat, and no other cold or flu symptoms at that time.
The sore throat started just a day or two after I started the drops. It lasted for about 3 weeks, at which time I caught a cold (air travel, lack of sleep, extremely stressful situation). That is almost all better now and the sore throat is gone.
I mailed the second saliva sample just over a week ago, and am awaiting my 2nd report and 2nd round of drops.
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Thanks, Nutmeg. We're on the same schedule.....I too sent my sample back a week ago and am waiting for round 2 and the report. I'm Celiac and tried eating some gluten and I can report that problem has not been cleared.
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Scott !Question for you !
Did you cleared your metals yet and chemicals.CASSA it seems you are an easy case with less bloackages....NOT my case !I still have to clear many things.
I hope I can clear the bloackages in my spine as WELL one day .
Kissis ..YEs the first round was very tough for me ...even emotionaly ..I could feel things released from MY brain and was in almost tears for NO REASON.
Even on the second round I ended up in bed once i took the drops and was very fatigue as WELL.I have SO many chemical and toxins to release..
One thing IS fascinating.The test with the vials about the ones that show that have been cleared from AI drops ( answers) do really test negative while I tested with biotensor and with pendulum.
OVer the time I could see the paterns of mercury going from high low and more lower...WAS amazing...The ones that I have not clear yet..still show positive...
HAS anybody reached the point of clearinng MIASM , or HAVE had LOW enzymes ...have they been regulated yet in theri case ..I am curious as it will really take me longer to get there than most cases ?
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Just sent in for round two as well for me and my daughter.
The only noticeable clearing for us with round one is lessened anxiety and depression.
We never eat gluten usually, so haven't tried to see if there is a difference after 1st treatment.
One thing I wonder about that may be related, my daughter has lost her taste for meat completely and has asked me to only give her vegetarian food. She says she cannot mentally think of eating meat. And her tastes have changed over the past month.WE don't eat much meat as a family anyway, but this is a new thing.
Just received my biotenser today, so I will learn to check some things with this.
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Metals for me did not show up after round 2. Chemicals were in round 2, 3, and 4. I am sending off today for round 5. So it seems that chemicals have been much more of an issue than metals from their testing. We'll see what comes up next. I had a remarkable result on my latest Environmental Polutants panel showing that I am dumping major amounts of toxins according to the doctor and I attribute it to AI.
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That's great news Scott! Seems like the chemicals remain an issue for me as well although so far the number of them hasn't been as high as I thought it might be. Waiting for #4 and will see what they come up with.
I would like to get tested as I feel like a LOT of toxins have moved out. I tested very strongly for binders throughout #3 and want to see what has been accomplished in these past 4 months (other than the things I can feel).
I had wheat and gluten show up on #1 but I am able to eat it now without feeling insane! I am not overindulging as it will take some time for my gut to heal and I don't want to burden it much right now.
LP - interesting about the meat. I am a meat eater and I have major cravings for meat and salt all the time now. Particularly when I feel metals on the move.
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Just got test results that I have PKU, or Kryptopyrroluria. This is the genetic and some believe acquired detox problem.
Does anyone have any experience with this?
Wondering if AI therapy can regulate this?
Of if I should take the PKU therapy along with the AI drops:
consisting of large doses of Zinc, Maganese, B-6, Borage and Black Current (Omega -6 fatty acids)
PKU and Kryptopyrroluria are two different things. Were you saying you weren't sure which one you had, or that they are the same thing?
This is interesting because Healers Who Share diagnosed me with PKU several months ago and I am in the middle of treatment with that specific remedy from them.
The therapy you mention is for Kryptopyrroluria. Dr. K warns that if you do this therapy, you must supplement with copper as well to keep the zinc from activating HSV.
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