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I guess it's the Esther C (calcium). I think it makes it weaker because when I'm on it I get joint pain. If I don't do the salt/c, no issues.
Would the salt alone be too acidic though? I thought there was something to mixing the salt with the c (can't remember).
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Does anyone know the best options for salt and vitamin C at Vitacost? I have the book but they give plenty of options.....
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droid,
I like Real Salt )sea salt) I order the fine 26oz size. I also buy Ester C powder with bioflavinoids by American Health. Both from vitacost.
Catgirl,
Just wondering if the salt/c is attacking parasites in the joints and that's why you are experiencing joint pain? I had tiny parasites (scab first) exiit from my wrist joints.
Maybe google doxy interaction with vitamin C and see if there is any problems. The protocol is best when done together, but sea salt is still antimicrobal and antiparasitic by itself.
The Vitamin C boosts the immune system. I would try and stay on the salt/c if possible because it's very valuable in killing bb as well.
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Thanks Gael. I know, I really don't want to split it up (salt/c).
I also get joint pain after taking binders. I haven't been in tune with my body so much in the past, but I'm noticing this now (it takes a while to figure this stuff out).
I think the binders are pulling the meds out of my body quicker, so even when I take them 3 hours away from meds, my pain starts to come back. The same thing with salt/c.
I know calcium is a no no with doxy, and the Esther C has it. I think it binds with the drug and makes it weak. Maybe I just need a larger dose so more will be in my system (on a small dose of abx). I'm going to try upping it.
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Biocidin does not have all the necessary herbs. Needs wormwood, black walnut hull, and cloves for it to be effective totally against parasites.
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Thanks Gael. My 3 yr old son is starting Biocidin. ART testing didn't show parasites, but I was hoping that supp would cover it just in case.
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Catgirl,
As sparkle pointed out in her above thread, binders can have an accumaltive effect and linger in the body.
Perhaps spacing out the binders every two days would give the meds or herbs a chance to do their job and not be absorbed by the binders rendering them ineffective.
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lax mom - my son is on biocidin as well and I'm not sure which infection our practitioner wanted to target with it. Do you know what your son is taking it for? I read somewhere it is used for PANDAS by some docs.
Thanks, tickbattler
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Has anybody, while on salt/c, passed anything that resembles coffee grains?
Whatever those grainy things are, I am loaded with them. I have looked on different websites and cannot find anything that looks like those.
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I read earlier in the thread Feb 25th was a full moon. Can someone explain what happens around a full moon from personal experience? Do symptoms worsen during or before the full moon? What about the day after? How many days before?
My son had a really bad day yesterday and I believe parasites are his worst infection. He is currently on salt/C and Caprasite, which hits ascaris and his other worm infections. He seems a bit better today. Is that just coincidence? Do you notice a big difference in just one day or is it gradual as you get farther away from the full moon?
Thanks, tickbattler
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tick battler: my son's practitioner only said it was "antimicrobial". From the ingredient list it looks like it covers a lot.
Does anybody know a good, gentle binder for little kids that can easily be hidden in food like applesauce?
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Thanks Gael. It's worth a shot. :)
Tick battler, symptoms worsen for me about 5 days before the full moon. The worst days for me are the one or two days before it, sometimes the day of, and then they start subsiding quickly afterwards.
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Lax, not sure if this would help or if you can taste it but maybe a little bit of some mucilax or psyllium?
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laxmom, we use D.E. and twinlabs apple pectin. Benontie clay works for two of my kids; the other gets too constipated on it. He uses IMD by quicksilver scientific.
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quote:Originally posted by carolann2013: Has anybody, while on salt/c, passed anything that resembles coffee grains?
Lately I've been seeing some of these (in addition to the roundworm-type strands). I am doing the Rx meds plus I take cloves, plus right now I'm on tindamax.
People have mentioned seeing something like "seeds" but I haven't, except for a few that most likely are just from my diet. However these tiny dark grains are something new, so perhaps they are seeds of a different variety?
I hope so, I'd sure like to be killing off all stages of these things!!!
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Carolann, I wouldn't be surprised if they are parasites (coffee grain like things).
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They look like black sesame seeds. I mean there were thousands of them. I know it wasn't anything I had eaten.
Someone asked me if it could be a kidney infection. About a month ago, I was tested and my kidneys were fine.
I have to believe they are parasites. I just can't imagine what else they could be.
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We did just have a full moon. That's when the parasites breed (yuck). Maybe those were eggs!
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carolann, are you doing better on Parastroy? How's your swelling?
It's good if you are shedding the eggs- that's how it started with me...then a couple days later, started seeing the adults and have seen them most days since. Shudder!
It sure is shocking when you realize you've got these things inside you! But good that they are exiting- now you might start feeling better!
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This is my fourth day of no salt/c. I thought my Parastroy would come in yesterday, maybe it will today.
I was already feeling pretty good. As I said, this is the fourth day without the salt/c and I can tell it.
Up until last night, I was still 'seeing' things. I have only seen one that was a shocker. I kind of quit searching so hard. Now, I just get a flashlight and look that way.
You couldn't miss seeing all those little black thingys.
I am getting sluggish again. I was chipper for about a week, felt really good, Now it is a bummer again!
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I wanted to share about two herbal parasite cleanses that have helped us. Caprasite by Mt. Capra and Paracleanse - don't have the manufacturer name handy. Our EDS practitioner has tested many formulas and these tested best for hitting the largest number of different types of worms.
My son is herxing like crazy on the Caprasite.
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Thanks for sharing these cleanses tickbattler. We can never have enough ammo against these invaders. Hope these parasites start exiting from your son soon.
Sometimes adding a little salt/c will make them let go. Hope your little guy makes much progress.
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I have gotten my Parastroy in the mail today. It has two bottles Para-Rid and Para-Sweep.
Did I get the correct stuff?
Also, I read the bottles and it said that there needs to be a break. I am supposed to take two capsules each twice daily.
I am also taking salt/c doses two times a day.
How long should I take the Parastroy before taking a break from it?
Thanks!
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Yes, you got the correct stuff. The info I just looked up again says"Take Parastroy in six mos intervals and then 1 mos break.
If necessary repeat. It also says to start with 1 capsule each P R and P SW 2 x a day for 1 week. Second week take 2 caps each 2 x a day for the second week,
Third week you can increase to 3 capse each 2 x a day. This is from the Natures Secret website. Keep us posted on how you do with it.
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Sure will and thanks. I didn't even think about going to the website. I read the material that came with them and it really didn't give that much info.
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Hello All I am still going strong on the salt/c protocol. Have a question- I woke up this morning with several red ring worm looking circles on my chest. Has anyone had this, if yes is it a parasite?
I took a picture but don't know how to share it- can someone help me with this?
Thanks - tmcmhope
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Ringworm is considered a parasite on Humaworm's website. Here is what it looks like (anti fungals are supposed to kill it):
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Any recommendation on an enema kit? Are the stainless steel buckets the way to go?
I've been on parasite herbs for more than a month so I guess it's time to flush.
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Hey, does anyone know if those vibrating machines would help with parasites? I've been going for the past 2 days taking 10 minutes on the Goga machine, 10 minutes in Infrared, then another 10 on Goga. Also drink 4 cups of alkaline water while there. It's helping my stress and tension in my neck & body.
It just dawned on me that this could also stir up some bugs. I had a slight nose bleed when I got home. I noticed my nose starts itching while I'm on the machine. I think it may. Hope it runs off some buggers!
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VV - I order the disposable latex-free enema bags on Amazon. I just find that it makes it cleaner and easier....which makes it easier to commit to a daily practice for me.
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Tricky,
Not sure about the Goga machine, but the bigger question for me is, are you on any antiparasitics?
Gael
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My hubby has been drinking Braggs apple cider vinegar in water for his digestion.
Yesterday I set the cup with straight vinegar down & went to fill the pitcher with water, so I could add the water to the vinegar.
He saw the cup and it only had a little in it, so he threw it in his mouth and swallowed it down! Then he coughed and sputtered and carried on. I thought he was choking....... When he could finally talk again he said what happened. Some of it went down 'the wrong throat'.
He's been coughing ever since. Did that kill off some critters? or just irritate the airways?
Is there something to do to help soothe / ease the cough? He's rifing for cough.
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He just swallowed "down the wrong pipe" which this is commonly referred to when this happens. Has nothing to do with killing critters. He aspirated the liquid. If he developes any lung symptoms he should seek medical help.
As you suspected, he just irritaed the airways. He should drink everthing warm not cold so he doesn't cause any more constriction. It should just calm down on it's own. Maybe someone has a home remedy that they know of.
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VV, I got this at walgreens (it works great, and has big tubing, so it's easy to clean).
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How do you all get the temp right for an enema? Should be warm, right?
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It should be room temp. I just posted some links on an new post called Coffee Enemas (much more info there).
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To my disappointment, I am going to have to stay off of the salt/c. I had quit taking it for about four days.
Decided I would try it again at a lower dose. My swelling got worse and packed on about five pounds.
Will just doing the Parastroy work as well? I am doing two doses a day. Tomorrow I will go to three times a day.
Will it be helpful if I continue the vitamin C? It surely can't hurt me. I have read that it is a natural dieuretic.
I must say the salt/c was really doing the job on parasites. I could not believe it!!!
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So I have been pulsing small does (1/8tsp) salt/c for my son.
Today is day two of his pulse and he has a sore stomach and very loose stools.
Any thoughts? Is this likely related to the salt/c?
Is it a good thing or not?
Should he do day three of the pulse? We have been doing three on four off. His anxiety has not returned with the pulsing.
I know there is no certain answers to these questions, but any thoughts welcome.
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The loose stools can be a sign of dieoff, so if you can, look to see if anything came with it. I would keep going. Keep us posted
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I have known for many years that I have a parasitic infection despite negative stool samples. Proof finally came after releasing them from my throat and sinus cavity. Very creepy!
My lyme Dr. just put me on one single dose of Ivermectin. I have major doubts this will irradiate the infection(s), especially after all these years.
I'm afraid it's back in my own hands to treat. I'm thinking about buying Parastroy and going back on the salt/C protocol. My husband wants me to see a Parasitologist.
Few questions:
Is it worth finding a Parasitologist? I live in an area of high international travel so there are many around. Or is the medical/pharmaceutical model of treating chronic parasitic infections ineffective in general?
Is it best to purchase Parastroy directly from the manufacturer? It's half the cost on Amazon but I worry about the expiration date or the temp conditions the product was stored in.
What's the best place to purchase the salt/C e-book?
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You can buy Parastroy, sea salt(Real Salt) and Ester C powder with bioflavinoids by American Health all very inexpensive from vitacost.
Knowing what I know now about parasites, I would start tx ASAP. I tested negative for yrs for parasites and I was loaded.
If you can find someone who is Dr. K. trained and does ART that would be a good option. You can purchase the salt/c book from Amazon.
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quote: Or is the medical/pharmaceutical model of treating chronic parasitic infections ineffective in general? [/QB]
Gratitude, you nailed it. You can try a parasitologist, but I think they tend to help people who have traveled from overseas rather than the rest of us. Most docs just don't believe parasites are an issue here. Maybe you'll get lucky?
You're right, one dose of ivermectin won't do it. Parasites love their comfortable homes and don't want to leave them.
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My husband has a new spot on his bicep that resembles ringworm, but it is not scaly or itchy. It is only the size of a dime. It is a perfect circle with just a red outline. No center. I wish I had taken a picture. Could this be related to any parasite?
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dbpei- my wife had a very similar occurance, she had 4 of pop up on her chest, she has been on salt/c for a few weeks now at only 1/4 per day.
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this is pretty TMI, but I have a question- has anyone experienced mucus in their stools or hairy looking stools since starting to treat for parasites?
I'm also fighting candida, but just starting to worry that I have an intestinal infection. My ND has me starting on SeaCure but just wondered if anyone else noticed this while doing parasite treatments?
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