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PS....I found this on the internet...not Dr K's site....
Biltricide 600 mg 2 3 times a day for two days
Ivermectin 12 mg 1 four times a day for 14 days-take at same time as Pyrantel Pamoate
Pyrantel Pamoate 1000 mg 1 per day at bedtime for 14 days - take at same time as Ivermectin
albenza 200mg (after completing 14 days on Ivermectin and Pyrantel) 2 tablets twice per day for 14 days
alinia 500 mg (after completing Albenza) 2 twice per day for 14 days
Thanks:)
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It's that time again (full moon coming up). I am already feeling it. How is everyone doing?
I've been having a tough time lately with the metals. The metal dump has been so horrible that I've had to back down treating the bugs. I'm treating, but at a much slower pace now. I think less is best.
Hang in there parasite warriors!
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Just thought I'd share. My LLMD told me that quinine hits proto.
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Thanks Mlg! Have you tried it yet?
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Yes. My doc has me on quinine and clyndamyacin with heparin and herbs. I have been at about 80-90% the last few months. But clynda by itself doesn't seem to hit proto where as quinine by itself does hit proto. My LLMD confirmed this.
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I need to revisit treating for parasites.
For Salt/C - at what dose does one start seeing effects - ie dead things!
Clove (capsules?). Do they burn sensitive "innards"? Aftertaste?
Thanks.
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Hi Susan
I take clove capsules with a meal.
I don't find they bother me.
I started noticing "visual" affirmations at 1 tsp of sea salt and 1 tsp of powdered C. (Buffered is easier on the stomach).
At 2 teaspoons of each it was mass exodus and I started seeing flukes. Dead and alive.
It was so disgusting I have ramped down to 1 teaspoon of each again.
I'm chicken, I guess.
I make my salt C in a liter of water with a few drops stevia and a squirt of lime juice, or a splash of dark cherry juice, and drink it throughout the day.
Found it easier on my innard to make the drink that to take the salt/C whole in powdered form.
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What on earth are strongaloides (sp?).
Anyone have these and what symptoms did you notice from them?
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Greta,
Strongyloides are roundworms and are very common. Google roundworms, symptoms and images. I am guessing with the exodus you have been seeing that this is one of your infections. I also had a very bad infection with this parasite left undiagnosed for yrs.
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Gael-thank you
I've had anemia, asthma and allergies since I was a kid.
If the 3 "A"'s don't scream parasites, I don't know what does. Haha.
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You're very welcome. I had SEVERE asthma for over 40 yrs. Got rid of it treating parasites. They are commonly found in the lungs.
They are very dangerous when left untreated, and suspect many on this board are infected. Roundworms lay 200,000 eggs a day and that's why maintenance for this infection should be lifetime.
If just one egg is left over the cycle will start all over again. Allergies and anemia are also on the list for this parasite. Keep pushing forward in your treatment. You areon the right track.
Gael
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quote:Originally posted by mlg: Yes. My doc has me on quinine and clyndamyacin with heparin and herbs. I have been at about 80-90% the last few months. But clynda by itself doesn't seem to hit proto where as quinine by itself does hit proto. My LLMD confirmed this.
Awesome Mlg, thank you!
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Hi All,
How is everyone doing?
Gael, aside from Salt/C, which abx antihelminth helped for strongoloidyes. (sp?).
Does anyone else use the disposable PVC enema tips for their enemas? The place I normally purchase them from is sold out, and the sellers on Amazon don't ship to my area.
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I started with Parastroy, then added Hanna Kroeger Wormwood combo, Super Digestaway by Soloray (also antiparasitic, extra cloves, coconut oil, coconut water and Kefir.
I did take the salt/c dose up to 20gms a day (4tsp in divided doses through the day) with extra water.I am now on a maintenance of about 5-10 gms a day. Ramping up all the above slowly as to tolerance.
Gael
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Your welcome Greta. Hope it helps you. Keep us posted. FULL MOON ALERT. Coming this Tues Dec 17th. Hope everyone has a smoother ride than last mos.
Gael
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I just realized that I didn't have a bad time over full moon!
I had been bracing for a flare, but didn't notice any.
I don't see any activity on this thread, so it must not have been too bad for most.
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For some reason, the full moons don't all seem to be equal.
October was extremely rough (horrid); November was bad, but not as bad, but this month came and went without a problem.
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TNT-hmmm...now that you mention it...you're right. This full moon went by smoothly, compared to the last two.
Yes. November was horrid! Haha.
I've started back up on the black walnut and Wormwood tinctures again.
I really do feel better while taking them. I stopped for a while because I wanted to see how my body reacted to the IV abx. Didn't want to stress my liver.
Just a run through of what I'm doing parasite-wise
-mimosa pudica (1/2 tsp. in protein shake)
-black walnut/Wormwood/CSA/Red Root/GSE in pomagranate juice twice daily
-Clove capsules
-1 teaspoon sea salt, 1 teaspoon vitamin C daily.
-Apples. Pectin is a good binder.
-Monolaurin (Lauricidin)(for Candida and antiviral)
-Magnesium malate (for binding aluminum)
-L-Ornithine (for detoxing ammonia)
-Additional fiber in the form of FiberLean powder.
-Warm sea salt water enema, followed by an organic coffee enema
I have a timer that dings every two hours to remember.
Next week adding in Boluoke, to break fibrin.
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Hi Parasite Warriors,
I have an unusual coinfection/parasite symptom.
Whatever it is is susceptible to A-BAB and CSA.
Here is the thread here I just posted, with the description.
It is really unsightly, and I am putting real aloe Vera on my face for now which is soothing.
I don't know if this is proto, parasite, HGE anaplasma etc.
Please help. I feel very unsightly. I just want to know what this is.
Every 20 days for eight months so far, but this time is by far the worst.
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Starting my first anti-parasite regimen in a few days, seeking some abx advice.
I will be doing what looks to be a Dr. K'ish protocol: 2 days of Biltricide, followed by 2 weeks of Ivermectin (Rx Version)/Pyrantel, then Albenza, then Diflucan. My Dr. F test indicated Bart and Proto.... my historical symptoms align to Proto quite closely, so I am expecting that I will hit something. Been on several ABX combos for 4 months now since I started Lyme treatment. I am set to wrap up a Mepron, Bactrim & Zith combo in the next 48 hours.
*My question and advice request is whether or not I should take some sort of easily tolerated antibiotic to deal with any bacterial release/proliferation issues that could occur as a result of the new parasite drugs?
I have amoxicillin, mino, zith, bactrim and tindimax on hand. No doxy, though I believe my llmd would write me a new script if it made sense to do so.
Thanks!
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Greta, I wish I could help (not sure). It does sound like parasites though (rashes are common).
j77, I wouldn't take any abx (just me). These meds are very strong. I think it's better to be safe than sorry (JMO). What you will need though is binders.
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j77, I would not add anymore ABX to your mix. Instead, you will want to be sure you are taking binders to help you detox to get rid of the toxins and heavy metals that will be released.
Many here do coffee enemas. Another few things that might help are diatomaceous earth (FOOD GRADE), chlorella, pecta sol c, charcoal, and I'm sure others will chime in with their favorite binders. Good luck to you!
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Thanks Catgirl & dbpei. I will look into the binders. I do have a bunch of chlorella in the pantry I picked up but never used. Perhaps it will get used after all!
To be clear on the abx, I am not slated to be on any after tomorrow. To clarify what I think I am hearing (reading) in your posts, are you saying that I shouldn't take any antibiotic( even a low-dose mild one like doxy) during the parasite protocol?
Some of the comments in earlier pages of this wonderfully informative thread about 'bacteria mop up' requirements as a result of the parasites releasing the junk when they die..... were the catalyst for my question. In case that context helps any.
Cheers!
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Hi J77,
That is wonderfully exciting about your parasite protocol.
I am looking forward to doing a parasite cleanse with the heavy hitters prescription meds after I get the bacterial load down.
I am a firm believer that a great way to help detox is via nutrition.
Apple pectin is a good binder. But instead of pills, what about some delicious organic apples, skin on, dipped in pumpkin seed butter?
(pumpkin seed butter is anti-microfilarial).
Shredded whole beets, sauted in a pan with coconut oil and lemon juice? (Beets are anti-spirochetal, coconut oil has caprylic acid which is anti-fungus, and lemon juice alkalines).
Asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts help increase glutathione production in our livers.
Add some fresh minced garlic to the above for an anti-viral boost.
Avocado has a terrific amount of fiber, good fats, and magnesium and potassium.
Chlorella is good. I have read it needs to be taken away from prescription meds or other pills.
I have a bottle of chlorella myself...the timing of taking it is what keeps balling me up. Haha.
Anyways, good luck. I can't wait to hear about the parasite purging
Greta
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Beets are anti- spirochetal? Hmmm...maybe its not the colloidal silver doing the job after all.. I eat so dang many beets... wouldnt it be great just to grow our own medicine. I have a frige packed with beets.
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Okay I understand. Binders will help you to deal with the toxins, but you are concerned about the microbes/bacteria. No worries because one of the meds is an abx (alinia), so it will hit the bacteria/microbes for you.
Also, not taking any additional abx while doing this treatment protocol will help you and your doc narrow down which meds help you the most (proto), as well as which bugs may be affecting you, so I wouldn't add anything else to the mix.
Since you have some proto symptoms, you might also want to avoid lots of fats and oils while on albenza (and in general). I know it says otherwise on the pharmacy info, but with this bug, fats will grow more biofilms which will also protect all the other bugs and co infections you carry, which in turn can affect your progress treating.
I ate low fat/arginine and just had a small amount with albenza (my fish oil or evening primrose, or a few chips). It still worked quite well.
Detoxing is even more necessary while doing all of this (lemon water, exercise, alkaline diet (greens), etc), and plenty of water. Be prepared to take your binders more than once a day, and away from meds/herbs/supplements.
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after reading so much commentary about the moon cycle's relevance to parasites... does it make sense (or matter at all) to start an anti-parasite protocol closer to the full moon? I believe it's close to a new moon right now.
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The full moon is two weeks away on Jan 16th. Some of these parasites (roundworms) are laying 200,000 eggs a day. If it were me, I would start hitting them now. Just my personal, opinion and what I would do.
Keep us posted and good luck,
Gael
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Anybody else here still doing Kerri Rivera's protocol for themselves (adult) for Lyme, co-infections, and parasites? I have been in treatment with Dr. K for two years and while I am better, I have not seen the improvements I thought I would see after 2 years (and A LOT of money). Thinking of trying Kerri's protocol. I know I have parasites and I have been on MMS enemas for a year, but not oral MMS yet.
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I'm doing baby bottle MMS protocol. It has been a few months on and off and I'm up to 13 drops per day.
Herx is big, but I'm also doing photon treatment on top of that. But there is also improvements.
Since on this regimen, I'm testing negative for any other killers meds or herbs (energetic tests), meaning the on-going treatment is sufficient to treat the pathogen. I sleep better, I also stopped testing for adrenal and thyroid support.
My outstanding problem is blood-born parasites (most probably protomyxzoa and co). The rest of the coinfections like Borrelia, Babesia, Bartonella, Ehrlichia, Anaplasma, Mycoplasma, Brucella went dormant with photon treatment.
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Did you stop all antioxidants, magnesium, etc. as suggested in the book. That is what concerns me a little bit as well as stopping my Lyme cocktail. I know the MMS is supposed to be potent, and I did get wicked die off the few times I started taking it orally, but it still feels a little scary to go off on my own again and stop most everything else I am on.
I too have been seeing Dr. K for two years with less than positive results and spending a fortune. I am going through the rounds of parasite medicines again. If it doesn't work out this time I am switching to salt/C. I KNOW parasites r an issue, I just wish someone could tell me which ones so I didn't feel like I was randomly taking heavy meds hit or miss.
Please keep in touch
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This full moon seams very weak. I've had the best sleep in a real long time the past few nights. (knock on wood)with improvements in other areas as well.
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gmb,
This full moon is referred to as a mimi moon. The smallest of 2014 because it is furthest from the planet. You can google it for some interesting facts. I noticed it also. Glad to hear of your improvements.
Gael
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Brnging this back up for Ema to view.
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bump.
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Also considering zapping and/or salt C but really not sure about the type of C I should get as I have methylation issues,and so I'm not sure if this comes into play about certain vit. C's being bad, etc.
What do you guys think? Any help appreciated.
I'm pretty sure I have parasites because I've seen some things after colonics and I'm pretty sure it needs to be addressed. Thanks!!
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I like the combo of Parastroy and salt/c. Packs a powerful punch. Salt dehydrates the parasites and puts them into osmotic shock. I also added extra cloves (kills eggs) coconut water, coconut oil and kefir/yogurt.
You would benefit from the salt/c Plus book that you can order from Amazon. I buy Real Salt (sea salt) and Ester C powder with bioflavonoids (American Health) from Vitacost. Also Parastroy and clove caps from Vitacost.
When doing salt/c, ramping up slowly is important. 1/4tsp each salt and C in a glass of water and extra water is good to start. You don't have to gulp it down, you can sip it through the day. Hope this helps you get started.
Gael
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Yes, that's the book. I did both colonics and warm water enemas to release dead and dying toxins and parasites.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Gael
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Do any of you ingest a source of potassium to try and keep a balance with all the salt -or is that what the coconut water is for Gael?
I drink a lot of coconut kefir so maybe that will help.
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Coconut water is high in potassium and other vitamins and minerals. Great for balancing electrolytes. I did/do both the coconut water and kefir. The coconut water is best for balancing the electrolytes though.
Gael
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Do you ever do "coconut water kefir?" Love!
I bet the parasites hate that kefir.
Also, do you guys suggest any type of stool test first to identify, so we'd know perhaps what's coming out once they get killed?
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I have tried making kefir water... a few times, haha. I must admit... my fault on forgetting the bottles were on top of the fridge...ooops.
The water was too sweet for me.
The next time around, (a sucker for punishment), I tried honey. Didn't work. Killed the grains.
Then the third time, I tried half juice half water, this was OK, still a bit too sweet for me, tried less juice, and starved the grains.
Gave up. haha.
In my opinion, stool tests are useless, unless you are using a specialty lab. And in that case, I feel they would be good for bacteria only, not so much for parasites.
I didn't see much in the way of intestinal parasites until I added in salt/C. I use Real Salt and Kirkmann brand Buffered powdered vitamin C.
I started out at 1/4 tsp. of each in a glass of water and worked up from there.
The salt/C combined with black walnut/wormwood/cloves (hanna kroeger, hulda clark, etc) REALLY REALLY gets them out!
Any basic 'parasite cleanse kit' is good to start with, as long as it has those 3 ingredients at least.
Eating lots of vegetables, and good fruits and drinking filtered water, probiotics, kefir etc is good as well.
I also do salt water enemas and coffee enemas if I am feeling toxic.
When you do the salt/C and you do an enema, you will see a lot of worms in the toilet afterwards.
When you start hitting the intestinal parasites, you will start to see roundworms and super small clumps of pinworms (look like miniscule see-thru tiny tiny short rice noodles) and things that look like cherry or blueberry skins in the toilet. Also things that look like spoonfuls of red caviar, spoonfuls of tapioca (I think that is yeast), and other strange things like rice grains. Also things that are curled up like bits of tree bark or twigs and sticks.
It is absolutely disgusting and will gross you out but keep going, these things are better out than in, IMO.
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oh, good! I would love to see it, haha.. I've seen *something* what I think may be eggs? in the toilet after a colonic. There is something but I'm not sure what it is. I thought it might just be poo remnants but then thought parasites because I keep seeing it over and over and there are thousands of it, whatever it is, the poo sinks to the bottom and these just float around and they aren't really brown, they're rather clearish. I do small amounts of celtic sea salt in water once a day as it is, so perhaps that's doing something?
As far as the coconut kefir I use fresh young thai coconuts because they have just enough sugar to ferment the good bacteria without having to use extra sugar and it's enough to feed the good bacteria. I use a "kefir starter" that has 6 strains of the beneficial yeast and bacteria. I haven't tried the water kefir grains yet. I know the grains have got a lot more strains of the good guys but I figured I would rather control what strains are going into the water first. (while I try and establish some good bacteria)
The kefir turns out sour and I love it. It's so yummy. I get my coconuts from a local Asian market.
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How soon after starting salt/C should I expect bugs to come out? I'm ready to get started.
I also would like to know if you guys think it would be best to start the day before a colonic, or perhaps a few days before, or even the day after a colonic once the colon is clear?
I am just so intrigued by this. The lady I spoke with regarding testing said that 90% of people come up positive for parasites.
I am hoping that treating them will help heal my leaky gut.
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