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CD57, Yes my top notch LLMD said that. I went back to them as my other LLMD passes away and needed a new doctor. I have more info. You can pm me if you'd like. Two years ago they wouldn't prescribe anti-parasitics and now they are.
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What about essential oils...? My wife has been reading alot about treating parasites with essential oils and is convinced it works. She wants to treat our entire family this way...
Anyone know if essential oils really work in treating parasites? I am sketpical...
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There are quite a few essential oils that kill parasites. I know lemongrass, clove, fennel, oregano, thyme, lavender, and cinnamon bark are a few that help kill parasites.
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twinnick.
Google essential oils to kill parasites.
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I asked here because there is not as much bias as if I were to read testimonials from an essential oils website. I did do some googling but I was usually lead to an oils website or another website that was selling some herbal remedy and would stated something along the lines "antibiotics and oils do not get to the root of the problem...buy our product!"
My wife is really going forward with treating our family with essential oils and I am supporting her...but I just don't feel like I read much here about it being ussed successfully.
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The three main herbs that are usually used to kill parasites, (black walnut hull, wormwood and cloves)are considered the best way to kill parasites and their eggs.
If your wife doesn't "see" evidence of parasites dying using essential oils, she might want to comsider the antiparasitic herbs.
Some of the herbs tutu mentioned above are often found included in some of the antiparasitic compounds that Humaworm and Parastroy have included.
The eggs MUST be killed in order to get rid of these infections. Salt/c is also another powerful parasite killer.
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I've heard a lot of this salt/c protocol being thrown around here a bit.
Is it safe for kids to do? Does anyone have a salt/c link for dummies exposing how to do it and how you know if your doing it right?
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There is a yahoo group about salt/c run by Marc Fett at lymestrategies. He also has a book called salt/c Plus that you can buy at Amazon which is an excellent guide for doing the protocol.
Salt/c + antiparasitic herbs saved my life. It is based on the website www.lymephotos.com I actually had these exact parasites pictured exit from me.
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I myself would like our family to do the humaworm...but my wife asked me how you get a 4 year old to swallow a pill? According to humaworms website...he would only have to take one pill a day, but there is no way we could get him to swallow it.
Ideas?
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Good question. I have swallowing issues, so what I do is open the capsules and mix the powder with applesauce.
That being said, it can taste quite bitter and I usually have to take a piece of carrot or other cake with it followed by some cold milk.
Maybe for your little one, mix a tiny bit at a time of the herb and applesauce mixture with food or icecream. It's worth a try.
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I wasn't sure if that was possible... We have done that with some of his other meds that were capsule in the past and it works.
Ice cream sounds like a good idea. He is pretty picky with his foods...but loves his sweets! Thanks again!
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Your very welcome. Glad I could help.
P.S.
Parasites lOVE milk and sweets, so when they eat what they love, they also ingest the poisonous herbs. Hope this works for you. I hate to see anyone sick, let alone a little child.
Keep us posted and good luck!
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Lymetoo, I saw something about them on Dr. Oz once --not sure what to make of it, other than I wouldn't do it. I would however treat for broad spectrum parasites instead. I think chrons/colitis are actually due to another form of parasite (again, JMO).
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Is it true that this thread started about a year ago...it seems to me it has been here forever
Im going thru some stuff and may join you again soon
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Yes, Lp this thread was created a year ago by Gael, thank god. Ever since parasites were recognized as THE NUMBER ONE CO INFECTION at the 2012 annual ILADS conference, more people are are opening their eyes to it (better late than never).
Hang in there, and join us whenever you're up to it. :)
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I agree with Catgirl about Crohns/colitis.
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I think one reason that many people are only just starting to treat parasites seriously is that lots of literature and dosage instructions for parasite treatments often imply that a 30 day course is all that is required. ......so they may do Humaworm, clarkia etc for a month and then move on, thinking that they have ticked that box!
I know that I have several times before treated, but am only now deciding to treat for extended periods.
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We have avoided it for my son because no parasite therapy seems really that safe to me.
His kidneys are not good, so Salt/C is likely out.
Then there's all the herbals, and I'm not really confident of what they say is in them, and the ingredients are supposed to kill parasites, so likely they are sub-toxic to humans anyway.
I guess if it were just me, it would be a no brainer........
IDK
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Ukcarry, it's that and most people have a hard time wrapping their heads around the whole parasite issue. Parasites are not in the mainstream, so people don't know to look for them, much less consider treating them.
I have taken parasite herbs for much longer than 30 days. Combining them with salt/c is what started to force the worms out of me.
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tutu,
Have been contemplating the logic of this person purposely infecting themselves with worms. The first thing that I have a problem with is someone stepping in feces infested water to become infected. (think I read that right)
There is no way he could avoid female laying egg worms that lay 200,000 eggs a day. This could be a big problem if his immune system at some point is not functioning properly because he contracts another illness.
The other problem is that the worms migrate to other parts of the body, including other organs and the lungs. They especially love muscle tissue. After much research and only IMO, it seems to me that parasites can be the cause of crohns, IBS and other inflammatory bowel diseases.
I would be interested to see research and studies after some of the on purpose infected people do after a number of yrs.
I am for whatever works to help someone get well, but I am VERY skeptical about this remedy.
Just my 2 cents.
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2roads just my experiene. My LLMDs, pediatricians, pediatric GI doctors have given my childen anti-parsitics; pharma and herbal. I would try to find an experienced doctor. And just watch out for side effects. A naturalpath or homeopathic doctor would work here. There is renelix from Pekana to help with kidney issues. Cucumbers by themselves or in juices are good for kidneys, PEMF is good for the kidneys. take care,
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mlg,
Could you share what they were safely given by the peds docs?
Thanks Much
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Full moon this evening called "worm moon". Haha! I am starting Humaworm for the first time tonight. I have been increasingly irritable the last couple of days with repetitive thoughts (OCD like). Does anyone know if Humaworm is okay to take with Samento and Cumanda? I'm also going to start Salt/C soon.
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Jammers, that is great you are treating tonight! This has been a wicked full moon for me too.
I have taken humaworm with samento and cumanda, and salt/c before--no problems.
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Wow, I just passed a bunch of worms (maybe due to the full moon?)! It is still so gratifying to me when I get rid of so many at once. Maybe because I fought so long before I saw any exit.
Just a reminder that enemas really help to expel them, especially if you're not seeing anything. Keep fighting warriors!
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WAY TO GO CATGIRL!!! Soooo happy for you. I know exactly what you mean. When you actually "see" what's been making you so sick and it's leaving your body, it is so rewarding. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when they started to exit along with other parasites. I had n
o idea I had parasites inside of me. I figured if I had them, others that were chronically ill with Lyme could also especially after seeing the lymephotos pics. That's why after researching parasites and their life cycle, I started to post about this malady so often to make others aware.
BTW, I was first made aware of the www.lymephotos.com and the salt/c protocol here on lymenet. Good for you for persisting in going after this enemy.
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I see no reason not to take Humaworm alongside the Samento and Cumanda, Jamers, but would suggest that you take it at least 15 to 20 minutes away from either tincture.
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I did a herbal protocol over the weekend for parasites and yeast.
Good news mentally it wasn't as hard as before, but boy did my gut want to hang on.
Woke up Sat. @ 2 a.m. and chugged some liquid magnesium citrate: goodbye suckers!
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Thanks Gael! I physically feel better when I pass them and the toxins they excreted. Thanks for posting the lymephotos link. It's inspiring to read it and see the pictures. :)
Right on, Surprise!
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Your very welcome Catgirl. Wishing everyone a happy exiting of these critters!
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Anyone know if you really must take a break from Humaworm? I finished my 30 days and really want to stay on it.
I figured I would ask here as well as at Humaworm.
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CD57,
I have stayed on antiparasitic herbs and salt/c for over 6 yrs. I have switched it around using Parastroy, Hanna Kroeger and Hulda Clark with adding extra cloves, coconut oil, probiotics and kefir.
I really think adding salt/c now could be very beneficial starting at a low dose. Then maybe trying something like Parastroy added. Humaworm will probably tell you to take a break.
You can also ask them about their other herbs for bacteria and Lyme and check out their website for ingredients. Just some thoughts. What I would not do is not do anything.
Gael
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why do they tell you to take a break, does anyone know?
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Anyone have experience with Paragone? Specifically Paragon for Kids...? It's seems like it has many of the common antiparasitic herbs in it...
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I didn't find Paragone as strong as Parastroy, but maybe that would be good for kids. Most of the antiparasitic herbs have similar ingredients. The 3 most important for killing parasites, wormwood, black walnut hull and cloves needs to be included to be effective.
Gael
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I've tried Paragone.
it would be good for really bad infestation, I think-to ease into it, as it is gentler, and maybe the die-off would be less. Probably a good one for someone who might have a hard time detoxing.
CD-I am not sure what all the ingreds are in Humaworm, but I think anything with Wormwood has that caution.
Personally, I went from Humaworm to Hulda Clark to Hanna Kroeger to Paragone etc. with clove capsules always.
But I was not taking other meds at the time.
This full moon has sucked.
It is my own fault for falling off the salt/C wagon.
But honestly, it has been terrible.
Surprise-way to go! Always good to keep those suckers moving out.
Catgirl-that's great! Especially if you haven't seen any in a while-must've been nice for some assurances about being on the right path.
Gael-is your maintenance dose for salt/C lower than the goal dose?
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My maintenance dose is around 5-10 gms salt/c in an 8oz glass. I sip it through the day and probably don't even get that amount. Not because I don't want to, but my stomach doesn't handle a higher dose like it used to.o I must not need it.
When I was at the height of doing salt/c, I had worked my way up (very slowly) to 20 gms per day in divided doses of 5gms per glass.
Not suggesting anyone go that high, but that's what I tolerated. It actually would turn into a flush and I would expel most of it along with parasites.
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Thanks Greta. :) This full moon was a bad one for me as well. I'm so happy it's over!
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Hey Guys,
I have not been on this thread in quite a while. I continue to address parasites with herbs and doing fairly well.
I have a question for the experts out there.
I recently underwent a molar extraction last week and ended up getting dry socket. Also felt like I was having a bit of a parasite flare during this full moon.
Anyway, the treatment for dry socket is clove oil soaked in cotton placed into the jaw socket. Do you think this will cause a parasite herx if I have parasites effecting the dental region? Thanks! DW
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2Roads, From your post on March 16. I think you need to find a good naturalpath/homeopath doctor. Many things have side effects and not everyone is the same. I think you need to address detoxifying issues. And address parasites. You you can do coconut water, which is anti-parasitic. Also papaya and include the seeds with honey. Cucumbers are also detox kidneys of parasites. You could parasite testing through metametrix. I think it is up to a parent to look for the best interest of the child. Sometimes you have to use pharma, but keep an eye out and work with your doctor. take care,
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desertwind,
Cloves are antiparasitic and are also thought to kill parasite eggs. You could get a herx from it, and the clove oil can also be absorbed in to your system. Really a good thing since it will kill off the bugs. Keep us posted.
Gael
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Thanks glm1111; Thanks.
The dry socket pain sooo much better but....I am having wicked head pressure and headaches now. Those two symptoms have always been related to parasites for me. I always thought parasites were a big part of my dental/jaw issue so happy to have clove oil in my bone socket.
Interesting...
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Your very welcome! Glad your pain is subsiding. Are you on any antiparasitics now? Or have you been in the past?
Gael
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It is amazing how clove oil took away pain that percocet could not touch.
Yes, I had done a couple of rounds of a modified version of Dr. K.' protocol. Had fabulous results once through the herx.
Took Alinia for a few months after finishing the rotation of meds. Was also on Malarone, A-P, black walnut, ART, Pau d' Arco and a few other herbs.
Lately I have not been on anything. Thinking of re-starting something.
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Might be a good idea. Maybe try Parastroy and salt/c. The combo packs quite a punch and might chase out some unwanted guests.
Gael
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I will try your suggestions. I have had an increase in head pressure since the clove oil packing and that was one of my top parasite symptoms. DW
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anyone ever taken the VRM2, VRM1, or VRM3. I did a zyto session with scott and he said my body is testing high for these. The 2 the most then the 3, then the 1.
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I've taken VRM4 quite a bit, but never 2, 1, or 3.
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