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I took six mos of very strong Chinese herbs (Monastery of Herbs) and when I added salt/c to the mix, I started having a mass exodus of parasites that lasted for mos.
The herbs were doing the killing as I felt movement and started to get bumps on my scalp(parasites pushing through)www.lymephotos.com This is some of what started to exit.
Parasites that have made their home in our bodies will hang on for dear life. In some cases it can take many mos of persistence for them to let go, and many yrs to get rid of ll the larva and eggs.
The salt/c dehydrates the parasites and makes them run for the hills because they can't stand it. Anyone frustrated with the herbs alone should consider adding the salt/c.
Reminder....Full Moon ahead on the 12th.
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This website will explain it and you can check out the salt/c group at lymestrategies. The original protocol calls for sodium chloride tablets and vitamin C. The more up to date salt/c protocol uses Himalayan sea salt or real salt.
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That is super interesting Maya!
I hope to start arteminisin soon.
Yes, I agree with Gael.
I take cloves every day (which are supposed to kill eggs), and my Parasite Purge tincture, plus one called Candida Combat, which has pau d'arco and garlic and Oregon grape.
I would say 20% of what comes out every day is worm/worm looking things.
It is disgusting and neverending.
Homemade fermented veggies and kefir every day stop the cramping.
Salt C keeps killing them.
I have odd sores that pop up on my chest and back and grainy things in my scalp when I am diligent with the salt C. I also had the weird nose thing that time.
I am only at 1 tsp each per day... About 5 grams each. Nowhere near to max dose. But it works for me at this lower dose, so I stick to it.
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Right on Maya!
Mlg, interesting piece!
Jasmine, welcome. I know there are some OTC products for pinworms such as Reese's or Pin X.
Thanks LP (will check it out in general)!
Keep fighting warriors (the full moon is coming up)!
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Why, I get the irritated bloody nose with strange things...
"Rope worms tend to migrate upwards and this can lead to discharge in the nose and throat which often starts while holding the enema "
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No offense to anyone, but nothing about rope worms has been published in a peer review journal and none of those who supposedly discovered rope worm are doctors (some have PhD's. but are engineers). Not sure I believe in rope worms, although I certainly believe in parasitic infections.
Also supposedly rope worms have been found to only have human DNA. That doesn't even make sense.
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Greta, I haven't tried those products (looks interesting), but have tried papaya seed (not that type of papaya though). Papaya helped with pin worms, and possibly something else (can't remember). Thanks for posting the BHG link (fascinating)!
Hiker, I hear what you're saying, and am not offended. :) I can't explain why they have human DNA (bizarre). Either way, they are gross and I want them out of me.
I don't really follow the peer reviewed journals. 2/3 of them are skewed anyway (follow the funding).
Unfortunately, parasites are the final frontier for modern medicine. They are designed by nature to avoid detection. Perhaps this is what the rope worm is doing.
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Good point cat girl about the rope avoiding human detection.
Gotta say the art is really kicking my butt but I think I am passing worms now and know I passed a 3 to 4 inch piece of possibly rope a few days ago.
Sure hits you emotionally though.
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Aside from a few tiny worms that came out of my gums several years ago, I have never seen a worm (in my stools).
I suspect most of mine are the microscopic ones in the blood stream. Hey worms, you are going down and I am going to win this battle.
SickSci--I can't speak for Maya, but I know when I kill some stuff and get toxins, I feel a bit down/sad--not my usual self.
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Gael - Are you now well or close to well? How many years have you treated parasites?
I know you post about this a lot, does this mean that you are mostly well now? Do you still have problems with your scalp? That's one of my symptoms that never seems to go away.
I have no doubt that parasites were one of the missing links in my treatment, but still on the path to wellness.
Just curious.
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quote:Originally posted by hiker53: Hey worms, you are going down and I am going to win this battle. Hiker53
Ha ha! They ARE going down (good for you)! Keep up the good work, as I truly believe we all have them.
I fought for so long to see anything. The worms held on as long as they could. I just kept at it and they finally started coming out.
Have you tried taking something sweet with the parasite herbs? They get their poison and food at the same time. But if you normally eat sweets, they will just wait for another meal (clever). Also, coffee enemas have been instrumental in getting them out of me.
IMO, everything you do contributes to them eventually coming out.
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Maya, I am so happy to hear you are passing worms. Most of the time people don't even see them due to autolysis: some worms (like the rope worm) release an enzyme when they know they are dying which helps to dissolve them so the rest are not detected (protects the clan). So the host doesn't seen anything and gives up on parasite treatment.
It also makes them difficult for any lab to diagnose. Nature makes some sort of protection for everything. They can't run and hide once they are dying & passing through your colon, so this is the best they can do.
Hang in there, and keep up the good work.
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I haven't tried this product yet, but check out the video.
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Ugh!
The product looks good. I like the ingredients and the lack of fillers in the capsules.
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I have been using the Spoky2 Rife machine for a few months. I really have not seen much reaction to it until just recently when I ran a whole series of parasite frequencies.
These are the ones I ran. I am feeling even more "out of it" now which gives me some hope that the rifing is working. Stay tuned...
Parasites Blood Flukes (CAFL) Parasites Ascaris (CAFL) Parasites Brain and Spinal Flukes (CAFL) Parasites General Comprehensive 1/2 (CAFL) Parasites General Comprehensive 2/2 (CAFL) Toxoplasma (Human Strain) (HC) Toxoplasmosis (BIO) Flukeworm (BIO) Liver Flukes 1 (XTRA) Liver Flukes 2 (XTRA) Parasites Pancreatic Flukes (CAFL)
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Patches, have you seen any worms? I've always been curious/interested in rife.
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Spooky2 is quite amazing and very reasonable. Now all I need are some good results!
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Sounds interesting: let us know how you get on!
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I will...
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Patches-thanks so much for posting. I am curious about those freqenncies also. I run TBD freqencies on my zapper. Was considering doing parasite ones too.
Wasn't feeling too good the last few days. Did salt water enema with Parasite Purge tincture in it and then followed with two more salt water enemas and a coffee enema.
Following now with some salt/C and lemon water.
I am considering starting bentonite clay internally but am not sure how much to take per day.
Any suggestions?
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Anyone here use triclabendazole before for flukes that didn't go with prazi or other medicines, remedies ?
Any tips to getting rid of stubborn flukes (besides the herbs - wormwood and walnutt hulls, etc.)?
Thanks
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I haven't tried that one, but have tried albenza. Albenza made a dent, but the bugs came back. It takes a village to knock them back. You have to keep chipping away at it.
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It is crazy how they can survive meds and all these things. Anyone have any supplements or remedies they've seen success with outside wormwood mixes?
Was also recommended - neem, boswellia and myrrh. Also apparently goldenseal leaf can potentially help with drug resistance from the bugs.
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Folks -- I am on some parasite stuff and in my coffee enema today thought I saw tomato skin looking things and tiny yellow dots which could be eggs? Never have I seen a rope worm or other stuff that many report here.
Any idea what the little red skin looking things could be, and the little yellow dots? And what is the significance?
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CD57, I have the little yellow flecks or dots whenever I take cholestryamine. Flax seed also causes this for me. By any chance are you taking either?
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The tomato skin looking things are flukes. The tiny yellow dots could be tapeworm segments. For those on just herbal antiparasitics, adding salt/c really packs a punch to the parasites and makes them let go.
They can't stand the salt because it dehydrates them putting them into osmotic shock and they run for the hills.
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Tomato skins, tiny brown twigs, cherry skin, sometimes black blueberry skin looking things flukes for sure.
Did you experience any weird flutters in your liver or gallbladder area? I often wonder how they can be so big but we don't feel them. At least I don't.
I've had those seedy things too. Plus weird red seeds that look bright like red currants but super small like chia seeds. They seem to glaom together, like the fish eggs they put on sushi.
Yuck. Good for you CD for getting them out.
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I am currently taking Purify (no wormwood) plus the Kroeger clove. It seems to help.
I say "seems" to help, because I never see anything, but I think a lot of mine must be in the bloodstream and not digestive--otherwise my year using salt/C I am sure would have seen something.
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Anyone here experience scattering with herbs before? Some people think that herbs if not strong enough may cause some parasites to move around the body if it isn't killing them. In example cause them to avoid wherever herbs are effecting,
This isn't scientific by any means but seem feel that way and I think it's happened to me over past few years. Some people also say herbs may just make them become more noticable.
For me flutters can happen around liver and galbladder areas. Oddly enough these things seem not to show up on radiology tests. A doctor in St. Louis - Simon Yu did say on his tests liver and galbladder areas showed up as being out of balance.
Anyway, trying meds and may incorporate herbs again later on if appropriate. Got myyrh recently that is said to have effect on flukes and some herbs that are said to be effective with lyme disease.
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I had liver flukes - still see them once in awhile.
I've done a lot of stuff for parasites, and have been at it for a long time, at times more aggressively than other times, and, IMO,
the flukes need to be 'flushed' out. That's why people often see them after coffee enemas, or why salt/C has success, it forces them out.
I found when I went Paleo diet (substantially increasing good fats) adding high dose Curcumin (anti inflammatory, etc,) and then got my bowels moving with natural laxatives and/ or enema, I saw flukes expelled. Perhaps the fats and then purge forced them out of liver and bile duct area.
Can't imagine keeping and obtaining good health if a liver is congested with these things. BTW, always have had normal liver functions on tests.
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Also, doing castor oil packs over whole liver/ stomach area, then enema next day gets them out, too. Yuck.
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Is the purify cleanse strong enough to get flukes? Also anyone think enema is essential? Will any enema do like ones you can find at chain stores?
Thanks
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I'm on the Purify The Life Tree tincture and am not super impressed but didn't want the wormwood in Humaworm for awhile.
Interesting about tiny brown twigs, tomato skins. Have not seen the weird stuff like fish eggs Greta but who knows?
Only see in coffee enemas.
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I am changing my mind about Purify. I have been constantly treating parasites for a year or so with different herbal combinations.
I recently started Purify from Life Formulas and added extra Hannah Kroeger clove and some black walnut and olive leaf extract. Felt lousy.
Then (think outside the box now) I went to my energy healer Wednesday and we prayed that she would kill parasites and parasite eggs. She sees colors of light and silver is a killing color.
She said right after the prayer when she touched me the silver light flew to the digestive tract like little pinpoints as if each point was killing something.
Sue surprised me as I always thought I just had worms in the blood.
Have felt pretty lousy every since and for the first time had to get out my detox items that I have only previously used for metal detox. Leads me to think parasites were killed and released metals.
Terrible diarrhea today and I am not sure what was in it, but I am hoping a whole bunch of parasites. I know there was some blood, but that might be a hemorrhoid.
I do use energy testing the past few days the only herb testing positive was black walnut and tonight that did not even test positive.
For a few days Sacch. boulardii was needed and now it seems just bacterial probiotics are needed.
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Also, full moon coming up on Saturday. I am going back to energy healer on Friday and have her use her God given powers.
I also read today that flatworms--like tapeworms--like the full moon, but a lot of roundworms become more active during the new moon.
Also, does anyone feel like their mouth is constantly filled with mucous. I have no sinus problems or cough, but this has gone on for months.
Blessings.
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I had high liver enzymes while on Hanna Kroeger Wormwood complex. My LLND told me these herbs are pretty strong and can stress the liver. Once off, my liver enzymes came down. I was only on these herbs for about 2 months.
I will ask my LLND for some guidance when I return to her, but wondered if anyone else had run into this.
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No, but I eat a little broccoli and also dandelion/tea, so I am getting some detox with them. Also, coffee enemas clean my liver out.
Hanna Kroeger is strong though. Have you tried taking binders before you take it? Maybe more detox support will help.
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Thanks for the tips catgirl. I eat tons of raw veggies and greens and have been drinking Yogi Detox tea. I am pretty sure I was taking chlorella about 20 minutes before my meals and I took the wormwood complex right before or with my meals like the instructions said.
It was probably something in the wormwood complex that was taxing my liver for some reason. I have been taking milk thistle too. I probably need to try a different product. I didn't realize how powerful these herbs could be.
I have not been good about doing the coffee enemas. This might be something that I need to get brave enough to try too.
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Hiker, mixing the herbs makes me feel lousy too. I have to take binders for this. Also, lousy for me means it's killing something, then I see it in the bowl the next day.
Mucus, are you eating/drinking any dairy? Parasites love it. It's actually good bait for killing them. Also, cloves kill the eggs.
About energy testing, it has been my experience that the bugs affect my ability to test positive for any parasite product the week before a full moon. This happens like clock work every single month.
IMO, this is the best time only to ignore the energy tests for products, as the parasites are affecting the outcome (amazes me). You will need minimum the three main herbs to kill them: cloves, wormwood, black walnut hull.
P.S. Good for you for finding an energy healer. :)
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quote:Originally posted by Xelaetaks: Is the purify cleanse strong enough to get flukes? Also anyone think enema is essential? Will any enema do like ones you can find at chain stores?
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Parasites are tough to get out. It's their job to remain in their home so they can live. It just takes time, patience, and pressure by turning up the heat. You have to try different things as no one thing does it. It's the combination of doing different things that has helped me to eliminate them.
IMO, you cannot get them out without enemas. You might get some, but enemas are mandatory if you really want them out. Have you tried a coffee enema yet? Jump in. I was surprised how much better I felt.
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Dbpei, coffee enemas can make all the difference. I just bumped an old thread, check it out. Jump in!
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Everyone, Gael has said this a thousand times but remember the salt/c. Mixing it with herbs really does kill parasites.
Hang in there, this full moon feels like a bad one.
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quote:Originally posted by Xelaetaks: Is the purify cleanse strong enough to get flukes? Also anyone think enema is essential? Will any enema do like ones you can find at chain stores?
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Parasites are tough to get out. It's their job to remain in their home so they can live. It just takes time, patience, and pressure by turning up the heat. You have to try different things as no one thing does it. It's the combination of doing different things that has helped me to eliminate them.
IMO, you cannot get them out without enemas. You might get some, but enemas are mandatory if you really want them out. Have you tried a coffee enema yet? Jump in. I was surprised how much better I felt.
Does the coffee enema give caffiene to your body? That could be a problem, my body doesn't seem to handle caffiene lately. Maybe a regular enema can do the trick. I've never tried any though, I'll try to give a shot.
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Hiker, you're welcome. I usually take a binder 15 or 20 minutes before I take a parasite herb. I like DE, but use whatever works for you (psyllium, etc). You just need something to cart off the toxins that the parasites expel while dying.
Sometimes I forget to take the binder before, but take it an hour or two later. Whatever works. I feel better if I take it before the parasite stuff though (15 or 20 min before, sometimes a half an hour before).
Your energy healer would likely test you as negative for any anti parasitics right now. That's because the bugs want to live. Parasites don't want you to take anything that will kill them, so they will show you as not needing it.
They are smarter than people think. Western medicine hasn't figured it out yet though. If I were you, I would ignore the testing and just take it, or, IMO, not much progress can be made. Think about it, this is the time they are reproducing. It's a good time to hit them.
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