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FULL MOON on Wednesday October 8th. Just thought I would give everyone a heads up since this is when parasites are most active. Sending healing thoughts to everyone.
P. S.
Aloe vera juice is said to be antiviral, antimicrobial and antifungal.
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Just started the Salt/C protocol a few days ago following the scale up method. Have gone up to three grams (taking at 10, 2 and 6) but have been having some mild stomach discomfort and vomited last night after taking the last measure.
Any thoughts on that? Has anyone seen sensitivity to salt/C like this? Don't know if the full moon had anything to do with it (?) I have stopped taking it and will start again at a lower level when my stomach settles down
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Are you using sea salt?? Stomach discomfort can be from die off. Vomiting can also be a symptom of the body trying to get rid of unwanted toxins and invaders.
However, to err on the side of caution cutting back dosing to twice a day until things calm down would be my suggestion. If you become too symptomatic then take a break and start up slowly when you go back.
You might want to get the salt/c plus book from Amazon for some excellent guidance when doing salt/c.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I will add some of that in. The only way I know its viruses is I keep going to my doctor and he says he think I have a new virus. Viruses make me feel awful and very weak.
The head herxes are like confusion, movement in head, burning in head, etc.
Last week it got so bad I thought I was going insane but something helped. Antihistamine support.... Quercitin and bromelain.
On top of using the binders I started taking supplements to help decrease histamine and it has made a huge difference! I guess these things can release histamine when they die.
I also start taking turmeric force to help with the inflammation and have seen some benefit.
Still plugging away:)
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Thanks Gael - definitely using Celtic Salt and have the Salt/C book that I am following.
I am thinking like you are that it may be dieoff - will be interesting to see what happens when I scale back up.
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Your welcome Lyme Swimmer,
It can take several years to get rid of parasites, eggs and larva.
when you are expelling something that you may not have seen before.
If you have already been seeing parasites, then you must continue on even after you think they are gone. I have seen worms expelled several years after a lull of a long period. If just one egg is left over the cycle will begin all over again.
Extra cloves kill the eggs (Hanna Kroeger clove capsules)and eventually adding antiparasitic herbs such as Parastroy, Humaworm and or Hanna Kroeger Wormwood combo will add an extra punch.
Hulda Clark says maintenance should be done FOREVER if you have been infected. Keep us posted. Hope you feel better.
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The last 12 hours have been a bit crazy here. Took ivermectin two- three days ago two days in a row and took albendazle today due to head symptoms. Hoping to get in alinia and tinidazole in soon to start on the protocol and hopefully it can help out. Keeping pineapple in the mix too for digestive support.
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Gael-or anyone who knows, is it dangerous to have colonoscopy or endoscopy if you have parasites and worms? I really think i have a lot cuz they keep coming out even tho i am not doing tx. I take pics of them now. They come thru skin, eyes and in.mucous i cough up. Yesterday for first time i took video of one cuz i was sure it was moving
Anyway...i am way over due for the above procedures and have alot of sx and history so i am wondering if you are aware of anyone having trouble cuz og parasites and worms. Thanks
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IP,
If you are seeing that many parasites without tx, then it sounds like you have quite an infection. Great that they are exiting, but you must be eating something(salt?) or taking something else that is killing them and making them exit like that.
Salt usually makes them run for the hills and exit thru the skin and escape any way they can. Maybe you discovered some unknown antiparasitic?
As far as a colonoscopy, I recently opted out of doing one because I just felt it was too risky and feel that my remaining symptoms are still from the last of the parasite infection. Maybe others will weigh in about their experiences.
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Around a year ago when I started having parasite symptoms - weird stuff showing up in bathroom after treating lyme for a bit I got an endoscopy and colonscopy. This is when I knew little about parasites. They didn't find much in both procedures. Not long after te colonscopy I took parasite cleanse herbs for a while and some nasty fluke like stuff came out.
What I understand now (from what people report) is the preperation for colonscopies can cause them to go into hiding.
There is a gastro doctor in NY who has tropica medicine background that seems to do endoscopies for them so could be there's potential but seems like results may vary.
Another thing is curious is capsule endoscopies, I wonder if there's potential to something with those and they could be an easier thing to try at least. May help to have someone who knows about this stuff looking it over though.
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I thought the endoscopy and colonoscopy cleaned out, which is necessary, and also, the process of 'scraping' from the procedure (this was my thought for me),
or perhaps it was just the fasting (I opted for 2 day fast beforehand, which was really difficult) did cause an exit (day after procedure).
I took 6 days of Albendazole over this last full moon, last dose last night, and today just vitamin C and glutathione to detox. I was very, very tired today.
It's a long process for some of us, and Gael being honest about that I appreciate.
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I wanted to share that prescription antihistamines seem to lessen my herxes (to some days non-existant) and so does Guaifenesin and bromelian.
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Anyone use the Byron White A-P formula for parasites?
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Yes, I've used it before. All of it helps.
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Guai has been said to help fibromyalgia...a long time ago a book was written on it
More recently i read it breaks down bio fulm
Not sure is related to what yo are feeling
Thx gael...i take a lot of supps , i use the pink salt on foodt, i take c everyday...i have been eating bad since may when house went under construction and that includes processed prepared food and take out so matbe xtra salt...i always have more come out around full moon
I have been putting off colonoscopies but i have worse sx and they git polyps last time and reflux sx much worse...
So i really dont want to keep putting it off unless i thought it might kill me
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Guai has been said to help fibromyalgia...a long time ago a book was written on it
More recently i read it breaks down bio fulm
Not sure is related to what yo are feeling
Thx gael...i take a lot of supps , i use the pink salt on foodt, i take c everyday...i have been eating bad since may when house went under construction and that includes processed prepared food and take out so matbe xtra salt...i always have more come out around full moon
I have been putting off colonoscopies but i have worse sx and they git polyps last time and reflux sx much worse...
So i really dont want to keep putting it off unless i thought it might kill me
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Okay IP, Sounds like the sea salt and vit C are chasing out the parasites. VERY important to stay with it. If you feel you should have a colonoscopy, then follow your gut. (no pun intended) :)Keep us posted.
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Gee i guess ive had a crazy busy week-i am just seeing this
Has anyone here had succes getting rid of prasites with rife?
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Yes.
LOVE Byron White's A-P.
My doc prescribed it for babesia/babesia like organisms and also protozoas.
It works great! But I suggest going slow with it.
Packs one heck of a punch.
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Hi, Some updates I started rotating again with anti-parasitics. Ivermectin plus another pharma anti-parasitic. This has significantly lowered allergy symptoms. I have decreased allergy medicine by half.
Hope this information is useful.
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Just want to add that vitamin C is a NATURAL antihistamine. Many friends that I have told say it works well and they don't need their pharma antihistamine.
Not a good idea to take both because it would be like taking a double dose. Allergys are on the symptom list for parasite infections. Glad parasite tx is helping mlg.
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Anyone use rife for parasites?
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I have not been doing long, but I have started to use auto channels 585 and 586. There are many other frequencies and channels for parasites. I always do a detox frequency at the end of my sessions.
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Ty. Do you know what kind you have? I have a general freq and then many by name. I havent identified them. But im pretty sure something is in my lungs. I wonder about tapeworm cuz sometimes it seems something very large is moving around inside me. But im overweight and i thought with tape worm you get skinny. Also seem to have somthing in my eyes
Ty. I will experiment i guess. Going really slow
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Hey Gang, anyone using a mixture method for Salt/C? I haven't been able to scale up too far as I tend to throw-up if taking salt/C in capsules around meal time
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I use Ester C powder mixed with Himalayan or Real Salt sea salt in an 8 oz glass of water and sip on it drinking extra water. I started with 1/4 tsp of both.
This way you can scale up slowly and it should be much easier on your tummy. Make sure you use sea salt and not sodium chloride tabs. Hope this helps.
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Is the powder cheaper?
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Not currently taking it, but when I was, I made a "sports drink"
Sea salt Buffered vitamin C Lime juice Few drops stevia or sprinkle of xylitol In a litre of water
I mixed it well and sipped throughout the day, also drank lots of plain water too, as a chaser.
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Thanks Gael, Greta Appreciate the feedback!
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Your very welcome LymeSwimmer.
Ip The Ester C powder I get from American Health is the same price as the capsules.
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Bringing this thread back up for Annie C and other newbies to review.
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Just update. I had apptment late last week with LLMD and she will continue to rotate anti-parasitics and is prescribing singulair Rx anti-histamine.
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mlg,
That's really good news. In my experience, antiparasitics have been key and have saved my life. Thanks for the update. Keep us posted
.Gael
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Right on mlg! Is the antihistamine helping just allergies or does it help with anything else? I am doing parasite meds too (and some herbs). Thankfully, the meds hit both proto and other parasites. Are you passing worms too?
I just passed a big rope worm. I am starting to feel more human again (better). I never realized how much proto was getting in my way. It was hiding and impeding my progress. Thought I was hitting it, but not enough. The meds are helping.
If anyone here has been fighting parasites and everything else with not much improvement, you may want to consider proto (another parasite that is often mistaken for babs).
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OMG, so tired. I can't wait for the full moon to get here. Major insomnia last night, and Taylor Swift's new song constantly playing in my head.
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Hiker that's great! mlg, I appreciate you sharing too and how much effort this really is/ can be.
Catgirl, LOL! I swear, I live very low key (except for 3 kids!) but anytime I have to do an event or outing, it always falls right before the full moon! My anniversary, a nighttime something to do, etc. never fails.
Finally getting a HIDA scan - on Tuesday! Full moon is on Thursday. Yea me. Not! maybe the radioactive junk going thru will kill some bad stuff out? Ugh.
Keep trucking.
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I've been doing Salt-c, antiparasitics, and coffee enemas for about 10 months now.
I have noticed some unwanted strangers in the bathroom from time to time, but not a lot. just an occasional "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!!?!?!"
I rarely see anything after a coffee enema. I do however, see a lot of undigested food, so it's likely I need to support my gut better. Could anyone give me some advice on a good inexpensive gut treatment?
The good news is that I've had steady improvement with this protocol. I spend very little and have gotten great results.
But I know I need to do more, which is why I'm here looking for answers yet again. My ears are still clogged and ringing, no relief there. And I can very easily feel like death if it's too cold, or if I run out of parastroy and don't take it for a week.
Are there some changes or additions I could make to improve this run? I'm doing great, I just think I need another push. That and I need to get my gut in order.
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Had a question about the full moon effect - how soon before the full moon are you feeling unwell, off or just not yourself? And how long until that effect dissipates?
Yesterday started to feel blah like a herx was coming on, seeing some unusual fatigue, etc. I think I am seeing some effect due to the impending full moon as I have seen similar over the past few months or so
Do you find it ramps up a few days before the full moon, plateaus and then drops off over the next couple of days after the full moon?
Thanks for the insight here
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lymeboy,
If you are seeing undigested food, you probably need some digestive enzymes. I like Super Digestaway by Soloray plant enzymes.
They also contain pancreatin and ox bile as well as papain, aloe vera, bromelein and more. You can also check the www.lymephotos.com for strange creatures that you can't indentify.
You can increase the Parastroy to 3 each 2 x a day after the 3rd week. Also increasing the salt/c might help.
Gael
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Hi Gael & gang, I am just snooping.
Good GOD this thread is long & you guys have been busy bodies.
Do you have a list of who got better or who is in remission from Salt/C?
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Hi lymedin,
Thanks for stopping by. I can only tell you from personal experience that I wouldn't be here if it weren't for salt/c and antiparasitic herbs.
I am 90-95% better and really got rid of everything pictured on www.lymephotos.com and other parasites and flukes several yrs ago using the combo of salt/c and antiparasitic herbs.
Still dealing with some smaller parasites that seem to have embedded themselves into my tissues but making daily progress.
The herbs really helped for the first six months, but it was only when I added the salt/c did I have a mass exodus for mos. Some on this thread are alternating between pharma meds and alternatives.
It can take years 3-5 yrs or longer to get rid of this kind of infection. Maybe others will stop by with more info. Also visit lymestrategies the salt/c group to see success stories.
Google Marc Fett, the owner of the website for his story. Your microscopy thread is excellent BTW!
Gael
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Surprise, good luck with the HIDA scan. I hope it kills off some lyme and friends.
Lymeboy, ditto what Gael said about enzymes. I rotate my enzymes though (different brands), and add more when on alinia. If you run out of parastroy you could use cloves (I always have them on hand).
My gut needs a break every now and then so I take a week off from parasite formulas when I feel the need, and do cloves that week instead.
As far as more, are you using anything else for lyme? I love salt/c but needed something more. You might try adding in some byron white, cowden or buhner herbs to the mix.
Lymedin2010, ADORABLE LITTLE DOG!
Lymeswimmer, yes, for me it's before the full moon and tapers off after.
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Thank you glm111, I'm going to try the Super Digestaway.
I'm at 20g/day salt-c, and I've upped my parastroy from 2 to 3 twice/day. It's working, but I guess I expected to see a mass exodus of creatures after 10 months.
But this part of treatment has been the biggest improvement for me. I often feel that if my ear and sinus issues would clear up, I'd be completely well.
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Hi Lymeboy - glad to hear you are seeing something with salt/C - I am just a few weeks in and ramping myself up a bit before I start antiparastic herbs.
Your ear and sinus issues resonate with me as they have plagued me forever - I almost gave up swimming because of not being able to resolve swimmer's ear and congestion.
I'll throw something completely different at you - the one thing I did this year that mostly resolved my sinus issue was taking seed oils out of my diet (the biggest culprit being canola oil) - I can tell when anyone sneaks it into one of the meals when I wake up the next morning all stuffed up with clogged ears
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Lymeboy sent you a PM
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Folks, just wanted to add something here. Per Rosner book, I ordered and tried DEC / diethylcarbamazine - on my own. I am 7 yrs into treating so do my own thing sometimes. Plus don't want to get him in trouble since it's not in US.
i did 100mgx2 for a week and holy cow! it was a carnival freakshow. I think it either really pisses off, or kills bart, plus something that protects it or something in the same space. I could not believe it.
The good news: it cleared up 7 years of acne on forehead and back. The bad news: my "bart"symptoms seem to be roaring...the worse being hideous bone pain -- both intensified existing and roaming new. I'm so afraid that this is my new normal. I don't think it's a herx because serious detox is not working....coffee enemas, lemon water, colonic. The detox efforts take away the tremors and rubbery legs, which for me are toxicity, but not the pain and some other stuff like swollen ln.
I have doc appt in a few days but feel like this is huge. Want to continue using it somehow but will have to control the bart, unless this isn't bart.
Any thoughts? For the record, I did not see any evidence in the toilet, and Humaworm was not strong enough to clear up the acne for good. It cleared, then came back.
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CD57,
DEC is indicated for Filarial worm infections. Sounds like you stirred up the parasites. If you have a hyperinfection and the parasites have invaded the tissues and organs it could take many doses to kill them.
All I know from personal experience is that I took 6 mos of very strong antiparasitic herbs, and when I added the salt/c is when they started to exit. Getting rid of this kind of infection has to be ongoing and cannot be done just with several mos of Humaworm. You have to be persistent.
I do believe that antiparasitics may also be key in hitting bart and babs as well as the combo of herbs and salt/c. Seeing "evidence" could take a while.
Gael,
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Is curcumin or berberine known to kill parasites. Im using them for pain but im seeing stuff
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