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I tried photoning with a bottle of Bactrim on my chest instead of nosodes. Not homeopathic Bactrim, just regular Bactrim antibiotic, and it actually did something. Amazing. Who knows why...... ?
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Dan, I guess either infrared itself did something? How long did you photoon?
Or it could be the effect of pure substances (not nosodes) that dr. W. uses. I don't understand the principle, sorry.
I am GUESSING it is like auto-urine therapy, or taking own blood. It's an 'old' therapy, widely used (I heard about it since I was a small child, used for people with autoimune disorders like lupus).
Somehow the undiluted stuff (blood, urine) sends some messages to the body and the body corrects itself (similarly to nosodes and homeopathy).
I never tried but I may try (through photons) to heal some allergies, who knows? I just didn't take my time to do that yet!
Just keep us posted. Do you feel herxes and symptom improvement?
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Maybe you're detoxing the Bactrim? That would be my guess.
Then the Bactrim coming out could cause a herx.
Just a theory ...
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Actually 1 day later I can say photoning the bactrim DID give me a herx and improvement! it wasn't detoxing bactrim... I have only taken one dose years ago.
My theory is when you hold nosodes close to the chest, they "highlight" or "expose" the bacteria and the photons kill or disrupt them and I suspect something similar happens when one holds an antibiotic near chest. When I hold either nosodes OR antibiotics near chest I can "feel" my infection spots get active and achey even WITHOUT photons. So maybe nosodes and antibiotics do roughly the same thing in a different way? once the spots get achy the body is aware of them and they stand out and then the photons go to that place? Just a theory but remember I don't think ANY of our theories are solid fact, this whole area is pretty unknown and its possible even Dr. W's theories aren't what's actually happening.
I do have a question though for six and brussels since I have both of you (the photon experts) right here in this thread....
I've always reacted very quickly to any treatment, ie have a herx within a few hours, improvement very quickly afterwards, and need another treatment immediately afterwards. I'm not one of those people who can use the same treatment for months. It stops working for me in a matter of days or a week max.
So my question is.... is it OK to photon every day? I know I could have a massive herx that spirals out of control but trust me that doesn't happen. I have the herx, improve, then back to normal symptom cycle happen litterally every 24-48 hours. If I can photon every day, that would help a lot. Thoughts? Again remember - herxing isn't an issue for me, all of my herxes so far with about 20 photon treatments have been mild to moderate, and gone in 24 hrs. Thanks.
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I am seriously considering purchasing a PE-1. I have done everything in the book of healing over the last 4 years with little to no improvement. I think the PE-1 is a move I have to make at this point.
BUT, I just recently found out that I have a very small amalgam filling. This came as a HUGE surprise and actual shock to me, as I had ALWAYS paid out of pocket for composite fillings. I wonder if this is actually a filling from childhood that I do not remember getting...???
In any case. Is it ok to use the PE-1 with a small amalgam filling?... I eat tons of chlorella everyday and do other stuff to detox... I have treated everything under the sun.
Also, I believe my true problem is not even lyme, but biotoxin, mold illness.. Is PE-1 helping people with that problem as well?
I am worried about wasting money that I really don't hae to spend, but at the same time... what have
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Dan, that's interesting.
The act of taping the item to the chest and the act of photoning are two entirely separate things. Taping the item to the chest alerts the body of it. Photoning gives the body the strength to go after it. So it's not surprise you feel it even without the photons.
Unexpectedills .... we talked elsewhere, hopefully Brussels will answer your questions.
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thanks for pulling this up, brussels. i have my light unit but am studying allot here.
could folks please keep most of the IMPORTANT info about use here, on this thread, for everyone interested?
at least on how-to stuff.
that way, the info is accessable to more people here, rather than spead amongst so many threads.
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Dan, very interesting experiences, what you wrote.
I will tell you something: that we don't need to ingest homeopathy, nor photoon it. Just hold the vials (if on glass is better) and they will work, in case your cells can communicate the message.
I use Bach flowers ONLY this way, without ingesting, and it works better, deeply, and faster than ingesting for weeks. I used it with many people and I see kids and animals react VERY WELL and fast,like with homeopathics.
There are other VERY mysterious ways to treat, but that equally work very well, but this would go TOTALLY in the quantum world, and it will be hard to share here in public, as people are even skepticals of ingested homeopathy or even herbs!!! But you can send me a PM and we can talk.
I do think that for you, you got to tune the way you feel works better. I am usually very sensitive and then I need LESS than others. But your sensitivity sounds different than mine?
What I guess for you is that you need rotation of things. Or possibly treat some sort of psychological problems? Would you know a bit of EFT or know someone who can test you energetically to rule out this issue?
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Unexpectedills!
Glad you 're going on!
My opinion: the place for mercury is not in our body. Just one amalgam replacement costs not a lot: get it out anyway, with or without photon treatment! It just takes minutes and it can save you sooo much more.
Just the chlorella you need daily to keep the mercury vapors out of your body will pay for your replacement in less than a month!!
OK? Next: Mold, yes yes yes. Combined with Sanum and other nosodes, plus LONG TERM chelation or KPU or AI, that was the best treatment I found, so far.
I'm still treating candida/yeast /mold on and off. Photons are EXTREMELY efficient with that in comparison with anything I ever tried before, but you need nosodes, very similar to borrelia treatment.
As for the money issue, so sorry you STILL have to struggle with that on top. I would first take off my amalgam because it causes havoc, short, middle, long term.
If you have little budget, buy the Sota Lightworks after your amalgam removal. It is like a toy, some people say, but for what I remember, it still works!!
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Hey Mo, you are right, but I wonder, now that the threads started, where to stop them??
Which machine do you have? Can you post the website or a photo or the technical info? I'm curious!!!
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So, is the PE-1 out for me? I have a mouth full of amalgams. There is no way I can or would have them removed right now. Are you saying the PE-1 will not work if you have any mercury in your body?
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I am now completely convinced that 3 days ago photoning a bottle of bactrim held at my chest was massively effective, possibly among the top 10% of effective treatments I have ever tried. I would love to hear if people have had a similar experience. I will say that I am highly allergic to Bactrim and have had major eye problems with one of the ingredients in bactrim - trimethoprim - in the past when taken orally. However I will also say that the dose or two I took of Bactrim in the past (orally) was VERY helpful, so maybe that's why this works? Maybe it is like all the benefit of Bactrim without the side effects.
In any case, I am also allergic to the quinolones and I plan to try this again with a quinolone antibiotic, maybe I'll get benefit without the tendon reactions.
This is mind-blowing. How would anyone believe that this works? I would never believe it if I didn't experience this first hand. I still hardly believe it!
This seems to open up a whole new world beyond just photoning nosodes. I think nosodes AND perhaps antibiotics do as Six suggested - alert the body to the presence of something. Then maybe Six is right, the photons give the body the energy to go after the thing. But while nosodes have definitely helped me when photoned, photoning the bactrim was much much more effective for me at least so far. This is like being in a fiction world! Fascinating.
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By the way Brussels I have held Bactrim to my chest as an energy test many times and have never had the experience I describe above, so I think photoning it was key, not just holding it, but the quantum world sounds fascinating and I am sure this is in that world!
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I found a very interesting article of a dr. who uses infrared and red laser to transmit the message of homeopathic and radionic remedies (as those found in Asyra).
He also uses acupuncture points to flash the infrared, but he uses another machine he calls Quantaray.
does anyone know this doctor?
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Hey Dan, you are in the same position as I was when I first used it on my daughter, with a knee that was so swollen...
She sat on the hard floor of the kitchen on her knees 5 DAYS after 1st photon session!!!!??? She not only sat on her knees, she THREW herself on the floor to show me how her knees were not painful anymore!!!
She could not even SIT on her bed without pain, nor on the sofa. The wheel chair caused her pain, the toilet was each time a traumatic experience of screams...
5 days, and the knee pain was totally gone. And the swelling. I couldn't believe my eyes.
If you had told me, I wouldn't believe either. I only believe and keep posting more than 2 years after our experience because this was amazing!!!
I will give you a hint: get the Bactrim, and succuss about 300 times, against your palms or hard surface. You have to use glass, preferably on a clear vial.
You can either add a LOT of water to it, or do it WITHOUT the water. Or do both in two vials /bottles. Then photoon again (or just keep them on your solar plexus).
The effect of it should be even stronger. Do more dilutions, and more succussions, and you'll get a stronger effect (theoretically).
Just a note: when you use infrared flashed through your meridians, as you were doing, it's a bit like you are FEEDING your meridians with energy that is proper to them.
You can see that acupuncture meridians shine infrared in Pubmed articles.
So, your meridians that were depleted due to disease are finally well 'fed', and doing what they should do: flowing, transmitting information. Popp says that one of the functions of these Chinese TCM meridians is to trasport light and with it, information. At least, that is what I understood he said in his website.
So, suppose you stop taking infrared today and use something on your body TOMORROW or even in a few days, on the solar plexus or whatever 'energy' opening from your body (accupuncture points are such places, chakras other places).
Don't ignore all the infrared you took in the days, weeks before. They are still boosting your meridians. So with or without flashing light NOW, it's not a BIG difference. You will be getting the info in a stronger way than if you weren't using infrared at all.
There is a lady that posted here called Bejoy. Her 2 daughters had lyme disease, like herself. She swore, many times here and in private emails, that everytime she treated herself with the PE1 using nosodes, HER WHOLE family was herxing after, even if they were not present in the house during her treatments but at school.
She became a sort of shining nosode wlaking entity!!! Wherever she went, even outside her home, people with lyme disease could react to her previous treatment!!
So when she treated anyone from her family, she had her binders ready for ALL. She knew that eventually, everyone would be treated.
She noticed that on and on.
That is another reason we don't usually flash the nosodes with more than a person in the room. If you do, we are treating everybody in that room.
But even after leaving the dr's office, I'm SURE dr.W would agree with this thought, we can be treating other people too.
I'm glad you come to the club of nuts. I do feel I'm nuts compared to what most people believe. There is MUCH more in life and in our bodies that we don't know.
Just stay open and even more AMAZING things can be proven right. Not to scientists, but to your own experiences. Many more new stuff is to come!!
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i don't mean to stop the other threads, brussels, i mean with individuals, we never know what direction things may take. lots of great information will be had from all threads..
but i wonder if here we can just keep up with some of the mechanics, some of the general questions. if possible.
i have a general question:
could someone do a re-cap of the ten points to be lit, and for how long on each point?
i've read for days, and a refresher post would be fantastic.
second question re: photoning with substances/herbs/medicines.
can sussessing give any substance a frequency?
like, could you photon cephalosporins (rochephin) if sucessed?
could you photon a live, cold pressed plant remedy? does that have frequency in and of itself, or also, necessary to success this?
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My gut feeling is that photoning the bactrim did not transmit the energy of the bactrim to the body, but instead, holding the bactrim to my chest "alerted" the body to the bacteria that the bactrim would kill if swallowed, and the photons gave the body the energy to kill. The bactrim just did the alerting. In this way it acted not so differently than a nosode.... just my guess.
Brussells, Thanks for all the great info! I don't doubt anything you say, as after my crazy experiences, I do believe anything is possible. I mean, photoning that bactrim was so incredibly powerful, it touched symptoms that no other treatment has ever touched. I made the mistake today of taking another herbal supplement and I could tell it was a waste of time and disturbed the "energy" from the photons. Could it really be that all we need are photons and nothing else? That would be amazing! (of course I don't mean for every health problem - we still need chelators, nutrients, detox -- I just mean, maybe photons are all we need for infections.)
Nevertheless I still have a few very highly rated herbals like Bar-1 that I still want to try in the coming weeks.
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It could be that photons are all you need for certain pathogens. Not ALL pathogens react to photons, so don't be overexcited!
Borrelia does, no doubt. Babesia, I have my doubts. Bartonella will be killed, almost for sure, with photons and the nosodes. Not much worry on bart either, I would say. Specially after borrelia is gone.
Another point I FORGOT to say to you, Dan: if you use the 9 EFT /MFT points with photons, A LOT can be happening in your body.
I believe I saved my husband from anaphylatic shock basically with EFT /MFT and homeopathic dilutions of both his saliva and the allergen. It was fast.
All dr. K's practioners know that we can cancel an allergy using the EFT /MFT points. If not permanently, at least temporarily. I've seen that so many times that I know it works. I use this technique very often with my daughter too.
Suppose that when you put Bactrim, that you were allergic with, on your solar plexus after having photooned your EFT points some time before.
You could have been treated for your Bactrim allergy!!!!
In energy medicine, whatever you use on your 'triger points' or meridians, will send only an energetic message to your body. Whatever your body does with this message, is INDIVIDUAL. It's your body that interprets the symbol (in this case, the Bactrim on your solar plexus).
It depends on what your body wants to do with that information. That is how homeopathy works. And I believe, Bach flowers, and auto urine or autohemo therapy. Or even EFT or MFT. Even acupuncture is somehow related to that all.
Have you read about neural therapy? Practioners inject something homeopathic on trigger points and you react like hell? Well, I guess infrared do the same, perhaps even stronger.
I hope you all get hold on how INTELLIGENT our bodies are and forgive our bodies for getting so sick. If we are sick, is that because our bodies are OVERWHELMED with things it cannot cope anymore.
Give back some peace to it, not flushing it with chemicals, give back its real nourishment, nature, deep breaths in pure air, exercises, sunlight, good food, good medicine, good water,
good sleep, not burdening it with too many EMRs, your body WILL do what it has to do but it couldn't. No chemical medicine can do this for you!! Not even hundreds of chemicals you ingest combined will do the full job for you.
that is where I say that energy medicine is much more intelligent as it uses your own body's energy to heal and talk intelligently to your body.
A chemical drug is like an angry mother sending you a command: do this, and only this and shut up!
The energy treatment is more like: I just talk about this topic that I find important for you (in this case Bactrim, or borrelia): what would you like to do with it?
Once you learn energy testing, you will see HOW much your body knows and how much your brain is limited. Sometimes you are convinced you want something, but your body says 'nope'. I follow my body now and ignore my brain!!!
Some people are fortunate to have great feelings and openess and they practically don't need any energy testing. They go by instincts, feeling. And they get most of the time, right things for their health condition. Many children are like that.
I guess that learning to read your body is something that is the most important thing to do. Don't poison it, respect it, and it will tell you a lot on what to do, to take. Put your brain apart when you do that.
Once you decide with your instinct, then use your brain. But not during the choice.
When I was on my sickest days, I had a big intuition. I relaxed all my muscles and said, just do what you want! I left them all relaxed, and then I started walking around and my hands went to cardamon. With cardamon I got rid of babesia once.
Now I just found an article that cardamon is antiparasitic!!! I still take cardamon to this day.
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Mo, I gotta go to my piano lesson! I'll answer you later!
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wonderful info, selma.
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Mo, go to lumenenergetics, she has a chart showing many points you can use (more than dr. W). If you have the Bionic, follow dr. W's point though.
PHotooning with substances, plants. No idea, you got to try and see? My Bach flowers never tested with photons for myself, but who knows?
Succusing can give frequency? I guess the frequency comes from the water content, if I understand it well. The less diluted homeopathic dilutions need MUCH MORE succussing in my own experiences, than higher dilutions.
So I would succuss my D1 rechtsregulat about 200 times and feel it is better than the original bottle of undiluted Rechts. But for dilutions bigger than D30, surely, only 100 succussions are enough.
In my opinion, succussion works with water.
As for frequencies, EVERYTHING has a frequency, that is how the biofeedback machines work, how energy tests works. Whether your body can read the frequency and do somethign with it, I don't know. It seems yes, but in what way does this stuff work, I am new in the subject.
I even never photooned undiluted blood in my life. I may do it, just to test and see myself, but I think you got to read about autourine autohemo therapy to get an idea of the subject. My guess.
Some people took HOMEOPATHIC antibiotics here with good results. You got to know the dilution your body needs.
Dan is the first that I know to use the frequency of Bactrim undiluted. But he is using infrared in other days, so don't expect something to happen if you never used infrared or some otehr forms of energy boosting technique.
I use many kinds of homeopathic penycilins and have no doubt about their efficacy. It is even MUCH SUPERIOR to the undiluted penicilins as they cause no harm to the gut and they kill still BETTER than the mere chemical.
Dr. K is a great fan of Sanum killers, and he's got decades of experience with these killers. Many are merely different types of penicilins.
As for plants, try if it tests good?
Buhner has a beautiful book about plant communication. Very inspiring. I do think we can get more than chemicals from plants, but I don't know how healing they will mean in the mere physical world. I mean, would they help you killing pathogens only with their presence /frequency? I don't know...
I know that plants can heal us in other levels, very high levels (purely spiritual) but we don't need machines for that!!!
We use our primeval basic instincts only and they work if you are open to these incredible and superior beings: plants.
If you have doubts, try Bach flowers first to grasp what is this plant language that Buhner is talking.
Once you dilute anything made from a plant, it becomes homeopathic, and then, you got to go back to Hahneman, I suppose, for guidance!!
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Does PE1 eliminate the anxiety caused by obsessive thoughts (caused by the tick borne infections)?
Does it help eliminate muscle aches?
How would you use the PE1 to eliminate these issues, i.e., with nosodes, without nosodoes, Nogier frequency, etc.?
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Momwhope,
Anxiety: caused by infections, I guess yes. But if caused by herxes, you got to use the right treatment for it.
The nosode treatment will increase herxes, so it can cause more anxiety. For lowering anxiety, I used 2 treatments: anti microbials and cleansers, a variety of them. Diminishing inflammation is also a must, in my opinion (allergy free food and allergy free environment), and also addressing local inflammation, specially brain.
As antimicrobial, the PE1 with nosodes will work for some pathogens.
As cleanser, you need another protocol but it also can work with the PE1.
------------ Muscle aches: yes, depending on the origin of the trouble. I use it for muscle aches after too much exercise and I feel it helps.
It also helped me with cramps. But if muscle aches come from other reasons, you got to see what causes it and deal with the cause... ----------
Nogier frequencies can work wonderful with some symptoms, like the muscle aches above. Or back aches. Or sciatica.
The use of nosodes happen only when you need to kill a pathogen causing the symptom.
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What would you suggest for reducing the inflammation in the brain?
I've been wondering if the increased anxiety is due to herxing vs. the infections. DD did just recently start an herbal protocol that seems to be working, yet her anxiety has gotten worse. Hence my thoughts that it may in fact be due to herxing. Either way, dd is very uncomfortable when these thoughts "attack" and I'd love to find a way to eliminate them.
(The recent full moon and mid-period cycle has only added to the increase.)
Have been using some Pekana and flower essences, but they don't seem to be working.
Have also just added a clay-type mineral/detox product--hopefully this is aiding the detox not adding to accumulation?
The muscles aches are due to the infections as well, using Pekana but so far no help (but has only been a week or so on the new protocol).
Thanks!
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quote:Originally posted by aMomWithHope: Does PE1 eliminate the anxiety caused by obsessive thoughts (caused by the tick borne infections)?
Does it help eliminate muscle aches?
Once the infections were gone, the symptoms from the infections were gone.
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Thanks Anuta I had never read this thread before!
My son just had his 12th birthday this weekend and is in his 5 month of treating with photons.
While there have ben some ups and downs in the last few months in February he was bed ridden and now he was playing with his friend all day on his birthday, walked two kilometres to a lake and swam!
Really photons have been such a gift of health for us.
He still has a ways to go and we are continuing to find ways to get him to 100% health.
Reading this thread has been really helpful. Thank you.
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Bringing this to the top so it's easier to find for a person who has been looking for this information.
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Bumping this up too, for someone asking for information.
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I have used the PE1 successfully for treating wounds on my horses. It has been proven to stimulate circulation to promote healing.
When I used it for lyme it had a calming effect when place over acupuncture points, but it did not help kill the organisms, or help with mental clarity or even my headaches.
I used to use it literally for hours. It just didn't work for Lyme.
In the beginning I purchased the nosodes, which were expensive and completely worthless.
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