springshowers
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Anyone else do the syphillis numbers at all?
After herxing hard .. (which for me only lasts a day and a night) I feel a lot better. I am excited to continue using those numbers. But I also will not push it too hard.
I am amazed how quickly the herx clears. Much faster than any other treatment I have used. By Far..
Is this what other experience?
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I just ran 2016 for 90 seconds. I did not feel anything in my joints but my head felt like I was waking up from a dream or something when I shut it off. I also ran 76, 570 and 1584 for babesia, but I didn't do the rest of my lyme frequencies. I want to see if I herx from 2016.
If I don't see a herx by Sunday night, I'll run all the syph numbers.
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I am back! I haven't posted in a while, but I have been following this thread carefully. I am really excited about all the people who are posting and using rife to help with their treatment.
I have a feeling that together, we can really help each other as we figure out what is needed to kill these bugs/infections in our bodies.
The last time I posted, I believe that I stated I was going off abx and soley doing rife & supplements. Well there has been a change in plans.
I have been off abx and not rifing for about 4 weeks. I have held my own while eating sugar, drinking and acting like someone who doesn't have lyme & co-infections.
With that being said, I am back on the treatment protocol as 2010 is going to be my year to get better.
I decided to get a second opinion about my past tx protocol as well as someone to tell me of my current options.
I met with a LLND, Dr. N, and she thought that my year on abx had really gotten the lyme under control since I told her I was 85% better and stuck. She felt that Babs hadn't been addressed and that is why I am still left with fatigue.
So I agreed to go on another yr of abx targeting Babs. New protocol is: Flagyl, Zithromax, Mepron, Artemesinin, Teasel Root and possibly Larium in the future.
With this being said, I has decided to still use my rife as part of my treatment. I will be using it regularly.
I am excited to try this new number 2016 and any other Syphillis numbers.
Well I am off to rife for lyme & babs. Today begins my new 'renewed' commitment to my getting better.
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I am glad you have made some progress.
I hope the combination therapy brings you to 100%. Sometimes we have to hit it with everything we can.
Keep us posted on your progress, and Good Luck.
Dan
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I am deciding between GB-4000 and a coil machine. Which one does run in the Mhr range (Dan's advice)? Which one can run DNA frequencies? Is anybody using GB-4000 or had any experience with it? Where did you get it? Any suggestions?
It's really expensive, so I would like to make a right choice.
Thank you.
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The Coil is not able to run the high frequencies.
I have a GB-4000, and a Rife Labs EMX. I bought the GB used from a private party. The GB is a very good machine and has lots of handy features. The EMX is more bare bones, but can run high frequencies, and can do the job.
There is a used GB-4000 with amplifier for sale on the Rife Forum for $1,800 or best offer. I think he only has it listed on that site.
Of course, you have to be careful when buying something site unseen, from a person you do not know.
Dan
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hi, secondtimearound, just wondering if you got well the 1st time with the emem3d machine, why did you then get a coil machine? Just trying to decide which type of machine to purchase.
Thanks and take care, diana
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FYI, 2016 had NO effect on me. I felt no herx. Can't rife right now but I wish I didn't have to miss my weekly. Maybe the herx will come later. I think I will go back to my regular protocol if I get a chance to do it midweek.
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The first time I only used the emem3d machine - I did however add in different antibiotics every once in awhile, salt/c and big time detox. I tried to follow the plan as outlined in the lyme and rife book by rosner.
I bought a coil machine because I wanted a second machine but I did not use it except to try it out a few times until I was just recently bit again. I purchased the coil machine only after I returned to work and had the money.
This time I have alternated between both machines and have herxed from both. I have also used a total of 7 days of antibiotics and 3 days of Buhner's herbs (1/2 the recommended dosage)since being bitten again on the 31st of October.
I'm pretty close to 100% again but this time I would bet my house I was treating babesia too with both machines. My experience was very similar to lauralyme's as described in earlier posts. Do I know for sure - no, but the symptoms were there.
I'm not prepared to say I'm 100% well yet but I haven't really herxed in about 2 weeks and have been feeling really good since about Christmas. I've been dealing with this disease off and on for 11 years so I know not to get to confident but I also feel like I am close to being well again by doing it the same way as the last time.
For those interested:
1998 - 15 different docs - finally treated with antibiotics for 11 months - pulsing the last 2.
I was completely well for almost 6 years - relapse or re bitten (not sure)but got really sick again and developed a severe yeast infection which turned me to alternative - rife. My doctor would not prescribe anymore antibiotics until the yeast was completely gone so I basically had no choice.
I was back to work in 4 months and totally better after about 1 year of treatment mentioned previously.
October 31, 2009 - found a deer tick - got sick again and still treating as of this writing.
Both machines work fine for me, it just depends on what you can find and afford plus what you feel comfortable with.
I am now looking at the GB4000 and the BCX Ultra because I want a more portable option and higher frequency ranges but I have to remodel the bathroom before my wife will give the okay! I'm planning on doing that project in February.
I am not trying to make this sound like it was easy because in 2005 it was pure heck and this time I was just as scared and it seems funny but I doubted my choices again every time I herxed - thankfully my wife has become an expert in helping me hang in there.
All My Best!
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quote:Originally posted by springshowers: [. I am amazed how quickly the herx clears. Much faster than any other treatment I have used. By Far..
Is this what other experience? [/QB]
No not in my case. It's not my intent to scare any new rifers I just want to share what I experienced and learned from my first rife herx.
I followed my rife treatment with all kinds of detox methods... binders, epsom baths, swimming, regular sauna, daily coffee enemas and nothing was really touching it.
It wasn't until I had an infrared sauna session that actually lifted my herx. I can't say enough great things about FIR Saunas.
I should add that I am still on ABX and herbals as well as chelating metals. I had to cut back the dosage on herbals and chelating after rifing.
From what I have learned to do after my next rife session is to immediately have a colonic followed by going to a FIR Sauna as my usual detox methods were too light to offer relief.
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For those interested, this is the machine I'll be doing my research on.
Frequency Read, Contact Foot Plate, and Contact Hand Wand.
As you can see, I carefully researched the specific machine and the person I was purchasing it from. The item was in mint condition, with all parts included -- just as the seller said. I was pleased
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MB, Your machine is very similar to mine, they must be brothers. I am very happy with my machine, but I find the tuning is very delicate and can be annoying. I rarely use the foot plate or hand wand at this point.
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I ran 2016 for about twenty minutes but she could not feel any reaction. I am not sure that means a lot at this point.
I doubled it at 4032 and got a reaction after about one minute in the various spots where the Lyme always seems to show up. Knees, ankles and a shoulder blade, no spine sensations. These would come and go and eventually disappear after a while of running.
I also ran an original Rife Syphilis frequency of 789,000. this produced a similar reaction to 2016 0r 4032. The reaction was the same as the prior two frequencies, coming and going after it was run for a while.
I have not been able to correlate either 625 hz or 2016 to any original Rife frequency, although the anecdote seems to imply 625 was one of his. In any case I can get nothing in the way of reaction from 625 hz.
I have not run the DNA frequencies, as I wanted to test some of these other ones. I did not have time to run them last night, but will at the next opportunity.
The reactions are getting less and less to the 2016 Hz frequency, and I hope that means there is less Lyme, but you know how that goes.
Dan
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Your machine looks a lot like mine as I have a DT EMEM5a. So far I really like it. I do have the opportunity to buy a good condition used Ultimate B3 (the model prior to the GB4000).
The reason I was thinking about buying this other machine was b/c I think you can pre-program the frequencies and it will run multiple frequencies for you.
Currently, I sit in front of my machine with my stop watch and manually program a frequency into the machine. I run it for a minute or whatever, then turn off the machine, plug another frequency in, turn on the machine, ect.
I was under the impression that this Ultimate B3 might be faster & easier to use.
Can anyone confirm or deny these thoughts?
Thanks
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I agree asummer, that's the only reason I'd buy another one. It may get tedious to do it with my machine. I'd like to use my machine while working out or something. I play Xbox, ride the exercise bike at the same time. Doing the Rife frequencies on top of that, and having it stop and start automatically might be a lot better for me.
What can you tell me about this Dan? Any options? Would the newer machine by Rife Labs do this?
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I believe that one or two other people on this site are currently using the BCX. You might want to use the search section of this website for any references to it.
MB,
Looks like our machines are basically the same - manual, individual input of the frequency numbers.
It sounds like I am a multi tasker like you and it is hard to sit alone in a room with my machine for 30-40 minutes working the stop watch and such. That's why I am hoping the B3 would be a bit faster.
I can PM you about Dan, but it looks like you have the same machine that he makes. I am not sure about any newer models that Rife Labs offers.
Maybe someone will respond about the B3 or GB4000 and we will see if that could be an option for easier input.
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None of the Rife Labs machines come with the ability to program a sequence of frequencies to run automatically.
The BCX Ultra is a good device. It has been use by many people with good results.
The GB and B3 are convenient from the autoprogram stand point. The contact mode makes it less convenient, so if you have an EMEM already, you can use both to make it easier.
The GB-4000 or B3 frequency generator can be hooked up to an EMEM of most any kind that has an external frequency generator with an adaptor, and run that way using the autoprograms.
You do have to run it in audio mode,(no carrier wave) and turn up the power just enough to light the tube. I reccommend running the frequencies in a sequencial mode. One after the other, but not at the same time. The effectiveness of running multiple frequencies through a tube is not known at this time.
Be sure to check with the builder of your EMEM before using the GB or B3 as a frequency source. Some may not be able to run this way. I do not know of any, but you do not want to ruin your machine if it will not work.
Dan
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A zapper is usually a battery operated frequency device that only runs one set frequency, or possibly a couple of frequencies.
It is said to clear the blood of pathogens, but I have never used one, so I cannot say what it does, if anything from personal experience. It is one of the Lyme treatments in Bryan Rosner's book, but it is a complimentary treatment to be used with other methods.l
Some people that I trust say it can help with some conditions, but it is not the same as a Rife type device.
Dan
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So is rife an electrical frequency/frequencies or a sound frequency?
Forgive my ignorance. I've read the whoe thread and still don't get it.
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He is comparing to battery operated zappers or a few battery operated frequency generators. I doubt a battery operated device has the same power level that a Rife type machine has.
You need the ability to use specific frequencies, as all pathogens do not respond to the same frequencies.
It may have its uses, but it is not the same thing.
I will make a correction. The device mentioned in Bryan Rosners's book was a Magnetic Pulsar, not a zapper. Two different things.
Dan
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Rife frequency treatment uses frequencies, but they are not converted to sound. If you took a Rife type contact machine and hooked the positive and negative leads to a speaker, you could hear the frequency, if it was in the audible range.
It is similar to the frequencies in your speaker wires. They make no sound until the speakers convert them, but the frequencies are present.
Dan
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Thanks for the info Dan. Yes, I agree that you wouldn't want to run different frequencies at the same time. I am excited about typing in the numbers and running them in sequencial order.
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Summer, that's what I was talking about, wasn't it? We program in the sequence we want, how long we want it to run, and then we sit and wait, right?
That would work for me while biking, playing Xbox, and all that stuff?
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MB -- yes, it looks like you could ride your bike b/c the machine would run the numbers and you don't have to keep entering them in manually the whole time you are operating it.
For some reason, I didn't think you were supposed to use the rife near computers or TV's. Might want to double check about that, in regards to your xbox wish.
Do you think using 2 machines during your treatment will affect your systematic process?
IMO - Get started using your current machine, time is a wasting!
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I may forego many plans as I continue research. I have not begun. I'm finishing a number of books on Rife and frequency. Sylver's book is really great. I'm finding that a simplistic routine may not be in my best interest, even if it could be helpful for controlling variables. As usual, reality is so much more complicated than a laboratory experiment can entirely account for.
We'll see what happens. I'll do my best to get the best of both worlds if possible.
It's a constant process of working things out in my head. I have an appt with the LLMD this Thursday. I know she's going to have ideas and plans that may conflict with Rife, so starting the therapy within the very near future may happen.
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What are the primary underpinnings of an appropriate routine for Rife therapy in your opinions?
In other words, water, detox, exercise. What do you find to be the three most crucial things, and do you use specific machines for purifying water or at least making it safe and healthful, and do you use certain brands of a certain detoxification product or drug?
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2ndtimearound, thanks for your reply and info, and everyone else thanks for sharing all of your experiences, it is very helpful/informative. I plan to try a machine at the llmd office a couple times to make sure I can tolerate it, and then get myself a machine.
thanks again, diana
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I finally bought a rife.. a used perl. The info I have so far suggests rifing every day for lyme. This scares me. I think you can also run multiple freqencies at once (banks I think). This sounds contradictory to all I have learned about rifing lyme. Any thoughts???
Thank you.. and thanks for such a helpful thread.
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For anyone who is interested - I wrote this out the other night and it got lost in cyberspace somewhere! Arrrgh! Oh well, here goes again
1st treatment ever:
612 - 1 Minute 432 - 1 Minute = 2 minutes total
I herxed VERY hard. My first herx started about 12 hours after my first treatment. Increased brain fog, joint pain, fluey muscle aches, chills, freezing cold hands and feet, increase in muscle twitches, extreme irratibility along with crying spells, and fatigue that was out of this world. This lasted about 3 days and then lifted pretty quickly after that. For detox I drink LOADS of lemon water throughout the day along with 3-4 cups of strongly brewed green tea. I also take turmeric, milk thistle and vitamin C daily for liver support.
2nd treatment: 2 weeks later
612 1 and a half min. 432 1 and a half min. =3 minutes total treatment time
I had basically the same herx as the first time - all the same symptoms - but to a lesser degree. It was a little more tolerable.
I rifed again 2 weeks later but added 306 for 1 minute and 2 minutes each on 432 and 612, totaling 5 minutes treatment time.
From that point forward I increased my treatment times and continued to add new frequencies such as 76 and 1,224, and ending with 10,000. By my fifth treatment I was up to 18 minutes total treatment time. I had very strong herxes but tons of improvement always followed so it was worth it to me.
A few months into treatment for Lyme I had a Babs relapse so I used my machine for that. I did 20,27 and 570 all for 1 min each totaling 3 min total treatment time. I had an immediate clearing of all symptoms. I didn't have near as bad a herx from Babs as Lyme, so I got really brave really fast and upped my time substantially until I was rifing for Babs anywhere from 15-20 minutes at a time several times per week.
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Also, I haven't been around a computer for a week or so and it's so great to see this thread growing so fast!
The past couple of weeks I've kinda felt that I've hit a wall as far as rifing for Lyme is concerned. I know that Doug Mcclean felt that spirochetes could become resistant to the same frequencies and I'm wondering if maybe that's the case??
For the last year I've pretty much had the same pattern: Lyme symptoms hit - I rife - typically have an immediate clearing of symptoms which lasts a glorious 24 hrs or so and then classic herx.
Here's the new pattern over the last few weeks. Lyme symptoms hit (which lately has included a lot of old symptoms I haven't had in a while) - I rife - I have the same clearing of symptoms that lasts for about 24 hours - AND THEN no herx! Just the same symptoms back that I rifed for to begin with and they don't go away again until I rife AGAIN and then they're only gone for about 24 hours before returning again....it's really confusing me.
I'll definitely be trying the syphilis frequencies - I need something to hit this this stuff hard.
Trial and error...trial and error. How I wish there were an easier way!
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MB -- You ask an interesting question about the underpinnings of an appropiate routine for rife and I think that it differs from person to person.
IMO, I do feel that purfied water and detox are imporant to everyone. You don't want all the die-off to be recirculated back into your system. You need to flush it out.
I think exercise is important IF you can do it. Right now, I can't.
In terms of the water, most people I know have installed a reverse osmosis system in their homes.
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LL28 -- Thanks for posting your tx protocol. Just like you, I don't feel a herx come on for 12-24 hrs after I rife. And then the fatigue is crushing along with the flu-like symptoms & pain in the neck.
I think that it is good that you are seeing old symptoms re-appear. I think I read in Bryan Rosners book that it is like peeling away layers of an onion and that towards the end of tx, peole report their first lyme symptoms re-appear.
So don't get discouraged, I think that it is a good sign.
I think it would be a good idea to throw in some new frequencies for lyme & babs. I will post some frequencies that I use.
You also might want to look into doing some research into the DNA frequencies. I haven't used them yet, but I plan on it within the next few months.
I agree that the trial and error part of the rife process is the hardest. Sometimes it feels like finding a needle in a haystack.
LYME Frequencies 42- 125- 203- 240- 432- 380- 484- 570- 610- 611- 612- 650- 690- 790- 800- 810- 832- 864- 920- 942-1224- 2112- 4320- 4328- 2,506,752 and 10,000. You can do 10K everyday
BABS Frequencies 570- 20- 27- 76- 5776- 753- 432- 1584- 1583- 650-661
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I have found that 612 works for Spirochetes.
2016 Hz works for some form of Lyme that I have not determined yet. It is not killing all cyst form and might not kill any. But it does kill some form of Lyme that 612 Hz is missing. Possibly, it is just more effective at killing Spirochetes than 612 Hz, but I am still not sure on that point.
What I do know is that the DNA frequencies are still hitting something that neither of the above frequencies are eliminating completely. I am fairly certain the DNA frequencies do hit cyst form.
I have contradictory evidence, so my new frequencies consist of:
612 Hz 2016 Hz and multiples such as 4032 6048 hz (Syphilis)
789,000 (Syphilis)
The first ten DNA frequencies run in the Mhz range.
I am going to try determine if 789,000 Hz and 2016 Hz are doing the same thing. I also am going to try determine if 612 hz is needed at all if the Syphilis frequencies are used. I have some evidence that 612 Hz may not be needed if the Syphilis frequencies are used.
Confusing results, but nothing else has been easy either.
Dan
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quote:Originally posted by R62: I finally bought a rife.. a used perl. The info I have so far suggests rifing every day for lyme. This scares me. I think you can also run multiple freqencies at once (banks I think). This sounds contradictory to all I have learned about rifing lyme. Any thoughts???
I would not rife for lyme everyday. A friend of mine also had a PERL and he said they recommended the same thing but he didn't do it that way. I would also check the frequencies they use in the "banks" just to see if they are in agreement with some of the more effective ones people here prefer. If not, I believe you can set up your own programs.
Once again - I wouldn't do it everyday or very long until you verify the freqs and see how you react - start slow - just my opinion.
All My Best!
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Interesting thread to say the least. Something I've definitely considered after I'm done with Dr B protocol is Rife treating.
Is that pointless to do after doing an abx treatment and going into remission?
Could i possibly pull myself out of remission by starting to hit lyme with rife? lol
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Thanks for all the great information.
I have had to take a break from Rife since I was in the Hospital all week but I want to get back to it and again start slow using the detox numbers I have posted I use to see how it goes.
My whole body feels so different after this infection and I got to feel the waters again.
This thread really has grown to become a wealth of great information and experiences and includes some great specifics that I know is helping us all and will help many to come...
Blessings to all...
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Asummers,
Thanks for the encouragement and the frequencies you use. Some of them were new to me so I'll give them a try for sure. I plan on rifing tomorrow using the syphilis freq that Dan posted. I'll let everyone know how it goes...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by asummers: Just like you, I don't feel a herx come on for 12-24 hrs after I rife. And then the fatigue is crushing along with the flu-like symptoms & pain in the neck.
Asummers...Your rife herx description is exactly what I experienced added with dizziness and pain on the back of the head. Would that be a lyme or a babesia herx that you provoked with rifing?
Are you able to distinguish between the types of herxes based on the frequencies you used?
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secondtimearound.. thank you. I dont see how if one herxes 12-24 hours later that you can judge what is too much if doing every day.
It is most desirable to hit one frequency at a time, right? The bank will go through all the frequencies set in it.
LL28.. what if the rife is disabling but not killing? Then the immune system would come in and fight but not be able to finish off? Would taking homeopathy or transfer factor be helpful?
If you are herxing with the same frequency again, then it is still working, right?
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"secondtimearound.. thank you. I dont see how if one herxes 12-24 hours later that you can judge what is too much if doing every day."
In my opinion - It really appears to depend on the individual and their immune system.
If you want to try it everyday - that is certainly up to you - I personally wouldn't.
You could rife for other things though.
Three years ago when I first started rife my immune system was in real bad shape so I, actually my wife identified my pattern.
I would rife and 3-4 days later I would be a wreck - so I believe that it took longer for my immune system/body to identify the toxins. Of course this is all opinion/personal experience.
This time after being bitten again I would rife and then herx the next day. Of course I had been completely well for three years with a healthy immune system.
The idea is to kill the active spirochetes, detox and wait for the spirochetes to build up again - this appears to be the case when lyme has converted to the other dormant forms of the bacteria.
I noticed this both times being sick - the first time I had to take my time waiting for it to activate plus I was so sick. This time because it was a new infection I needed/wanted to rife every 2-3 days for the first 8 weeks. Now I haven't had to in the the last 2 weeks. I will tonight and see if I herx - but I don't really have any symptoms at this time so we'll see.
As they activate and you have detoxed the previous toxins you do it over again for as long as it takes.
This has worked for me twice now with the small additions of other treatments - meds,salt/c and this time, 3 days of buhner herbs.
I have done very little outside of the protocol outlined in the lyme and rife book by rosner.
Frequencies:
It would probably be beneficial to do both - run multiple frequencies and individual. I can only run individual frequencies but running the multiple would cover more per treatment, hit the in between ones and save time - This is why I am looking at the GB4000 so I can have the best of both worlds.
All My Best!
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METALLlC BLUE
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I saw my LLMD yesterday (Dr H in NY). They are encouraging me. They said "We have a routine for people who Rife that will support your treatment. The Rife is your decision, we don't know or suggest frequencies, but we can provide plenty of help in detox, heavy metals, and many other areas that we use with patients who do take that route.
This was a shock to me. It was the PA who I saw and have worked with. She is brilliant. She did "not" prescribe or recommend this to me, but she seemed excited and happy about my decision to take it seriously.
At any rate I'm exhausting a few more antibiotics before starting. She prescribed ongoing Rifampin, Tindimax, Naltrexone, RX Chelex, Vitamin D3, Milk Thistle, Vitamin B6, (Multi Mineral), Lariam, Magnesium, Diflucan or VFEND, Ongoing Nystatin, VSL3/Theralac/Saccrymycin, ALA, and NAC, as well as Dr. Zhangs Hepa#2.
She also told me to get a Reverse Osmosis unit installed for fresh water. She told me I need to drink a lot (but also replace the lost minerals from Reverse Osmosis with one she prescribed), especially when I begin Rife. She told me once I'm done with the antibiotics, then I can start Rife if I choose. I told her that's how I wanted to do it.
Anyway, I thought this was exciting news since I'd never heard her so excited about Rife before.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
D Bergy
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Frequency treatments are not as unknown as you would think. It is just not discussed openly for the obvious reasons.
I am glad they know how to go about detox, since this can be a problem for some people.
Dan
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springshowers
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From an old post of mine
"I ended up looking into the list I was given with my machine for syhphillis and ran that program last night. Wow. it was powerful. I am herxing badly today. Quit intense.
If your curious about those numbers.. they are
900 660 650 625 600 626 20 658
Notice all the 600's!"
Has anyone tried this sequence?
I found I got quite herx from it and after finding the 2016 in old antidotes then I went searching for other syphillis numbers.
I think there is something to this and from readings here Dan is in agreement with the signifigance.
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springshowers
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I noticed that there were some questions about the BCX ULTRA Machine posted by some.
I am using this machine if you want to Message me or ask me any questions feel free to and I will try to help in any way I can.
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LL28 -- you have inspired me to try the syphilis number/s as well and see if i get a reaction. I hope you will post your reactions to the frequencies here, as I am curious to see who else reacts.
lauralyme -- i have been concentrating on rifing for babs more than lyme. from what i can tell so far, i seem to have the same herx whether it is lyme or babs that i am rifing for.
my goal is to get to rifing once a week for lyme and twice a week for babs.
and my pain is actually in the back of my head/base of my skull/neck. another thing that i noticed was that the nights that i rife, i actually fall asleep easily. i usually have problems with insomnia.
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Lauralyme
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by METALLlC BLUE:
She also told me to get a Reverse Osmosis unit installed for fresh water. She told me I need to drink a lot (but also replace the lost minerals from Reverse Osmosis with one she prescribed)
Viewing a recent video of Dr H at a conference he stated that he put alkaline water ionizers in his office. Hearing him say that was encouraging me to buy one but now I see his PA leans towards reverse osmosis.
Now I'm confused as to what water system to get.
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