D Bergy
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A fever can mean that now that some Lyme was damaged or killed, the immune system can now see the bacteria and is responding. There also are so many possible co-infections that it is impossible to say anything for sure, until you have eliminated most of them.
I have accidentally run into information on Tachycardia and quite a few people are saying either Magnesium or Potassium seems to either improve this condition or eliminate it entirely. But, these are not Lyme patients so there may be a difference.
I do not use detox frequencies, mostly because we have not needed them. I do not know that they do not work, or that they do work. I have not tried them to any degree. I am relying on your experiences to shed light on that.
What I am most skeptical of is Organ Balancing frequencies. First of all, what does that mean? And how would you measure if your organs are balanced or not? What are the symptoms of unbalanced organs?
As I said before, I am a natural skeptic. I do not rule anything out, but I do need some kind of reasonable way to measure if something works or not. Conveniently, I have no way to even define organ balancing, much less test to see if it can balance organs.
If someone can inform me on what this means and how it is defined, maybe it can be cleared up. Like I also have said, I do not know everything, and never will. But I will always be skeptical, if I have no possible way to test something.
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Dan, I'm really appreciate that you are skeptical, methodical and go by results. I am skeptical and have not had the nerve to try (rifing) until now, and still I am very nervous.
I did not see a diff using the KMT when using the lymph setting. I have noticed a diff from either B12 and or magnesium, glutathione with B12 shots, nasal glut, meyer's IV.
I don't understand how "they" have come up with any of the frequencies for anything beyond what Doug tested with his microscope and the more historical frequencies that were actually seen.
How did the rest of the frequencies, pathogen or detox support, etc come about?
Who "regulates" that?
Same for the DNA frequencies.
What if you rife, disable bugs then feel herxy but dont really kill off enough to make a difference? If that is possible, then you cant really judge progress by herxing (unless you get slammed, I guess).. ??
My concern is that my immune system cannot finish them off. What do you all do for that?
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I think a functioning immune system is vitally important to any Lyme treatment. I still believe that the immune system does most of the work in eliminating slightly damaged bacteria. I do not think most of it just blows up. People will Herx in a matter of hours if that does happen.
I do not know how you go about building up your immune system, because I never had to deal with it. Low Dose Naltrexone is what i use to make my own immune system work more normally, and that is one option. I do think proper nutrition is important and lots of minerals, but beyond that, I do not know.
The frequencies are reported by people who have a lot of experience treating with frequencies. Of course the more people that report a given frequency for a condition, the more credibility it has. There are a few doctors that use this treatment, and they do report what has worked for them. Brian McInturf keeps the CAFL list and I am not sure what criteria he uses.
The CAFL list 676 Hz for H-Pylori and it has an asterisk by it. This means it has been used by many people for resolving this infection, including myself. It has credibility because it has been done repeatedly by different people.
I worry about people that have had Lyme for many years, and the ability to gain on the reproduction rate. I am concerned that it may be very difficult to get ahead of the curve in that situation. In that case in particular, it may be better to use antibiotics to kill as much as you can, and hopefully attenuate some of it to slow reproduction. And then try kill the rest off by other means.
That is just speculation, but a person can only take so much die off at a time, and there are plenty of examples of people who can't seem to get better no matter what treatment they use. These are the people I am worried about, because until that problem is resolved, they are not going to improve.
We need to figure out how to go about correcting that situation and what can help. Maybe the detox frequencies can do the job, but we do not know at this time.
Even a person who is in relatively good physical condition can pretty much count on six months of suffering before the frequency treatments bring some noticeable improvement.
The DNA frequencies are based on mathematical calculation based on the DNA sequencing of a pathogen, and the space between the genetic material. It is quite precise, and has worked often enough that I believe they are accurate.
Accurate just means that the DNA frequencies do impact the organism, but does not mean it will always damage it enough to eliminate it. I think it depends on the organism and the form it is in.
On the plus side, I am learning much more now, than prior to this thread. I am glad that others are reporting their results. Good or bad.
Dan
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I am either herxing again tonight two days after treatment or flaring in the PM with a slight fever.
Its a little scary, actually. Its in my lungs, chest, upper back, neck, some head... ears even.. stuffy. Feel like I could pass out at times. I miss herxes (if thats what this is) that "just" feel like the flu.
I rifed in the PM and two days following have been achey and running a low grade fever in the two consequtive PMs (just 99ish but thats higher for me since I dont run a normal temp).
This is my second year after diagnosis. I was fucntional when diagnosed. Did OK for a year on abx and mepron for 6 months, followed by a busted gut and salt c for a summer. Then following that downhill to today.
I started a pulsed abx protocol 2 months ago based on Dr Js (NC now in DC) protocol. ABX MWF three weeks and one week off. I am wondering if I should continue that for a while. He has used this protocol for the last 3 years exclusively and it is modeled after his work with HIV patients. The pulsing helps the immune system plus takes into account the slow growth rate for Bb as well as the cyst form.
I had to take the third week off this second month because of inflammation in sinuses and brain.. that did go down in a week.. Due back on Monday and debating whether to do the pulsed protocol only for a while longer, rife or do both.
It does sound a bit like rifing, doesnt it?
I also wonder about following the rife session with silver or herb or abx. It would have to be pulsed. Rife then antimicrobial then off time to bring cysts back out.. ??
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We did try pulsing with Cumanda, Samento and Rife, early on, but it did not seem to work too good for us. I ended up just using Frequency treatments.
I had no clue what I was doing then, so that could have been the problem.
The sinus frequencies have drained my wife's sinuses on more than one occasion. I also remember one time it did not work. You reminded me that this was a problem at one time.
Yeah, the results of both treatments sound similar, and really they should if both are doing something.
I have never used Silver, because I do not like its ability to kill all bacteria, good or bad. And I am not sure if it ever leaves the body, but I am no expert on it.
Do what your gut tells you is right. If it does not work, rethink it. It is not whether you make a mistake, everyone does. Use the mistakes to refine your treatment.
You are early into this, and you have better days ahead.
You will get there. You are determined, and that gives you the edge.
Dan
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I'm rifing routinely now.
Thurs---29 min rife, herxish cleared after 32 hours (i call it herxish because it's not too severe. All day Fri i'm wondering if it's herx or actively worse. By Fri eve i decided i was getting worse. But, gradually better, clear by Sat a.m. waking)
Sat--- 17 min rife, not much herxish . Rife was cut short because of sleepy, too late at night, knew i needed a longer session, so not much herx reaction.
Sun--- 27 min rife occuring 19 hours after previous session. Not much herxish yet. Stopped because brain felt warm full of plenty of radio waves, didn't want any more.
Consistent reactions, every time---
612 always feels happy, good, clears out my head.
Bartonella groups (CAFL list) always feels beneficial--- but i never tested positive for Bart, never treated for it, didn't have the obvious symptoms. I have wondered or suspected a couple of minor symptoms.
Babesia groups never gives me any feeling that it's doing anything. Yet i responded excellently to Mepron/Zith, twice,; i had what i thought were mild Babs symptoms; but tested negative for Babs three times.
So it's just a boring, standard, routine treatment mostly every day or so. My head gets warm and woozy and can't take more than a 30 min session.
I WENT OFF ANTIBIOTICS, for the time being at least, because the rifeing seems to be adequate treatment and i don't seem to need abx, for now at least. I just don't feel any need to take them.
Which is a MOMENTOUS MILESTONE for me after 5 1/2 years on abx!!!!!
I'm still on herbals though, what a pain, LOTS of herbs to take, and my gut candida isn't in good condition. Rifing for candida isn't working, probably because i don't put the plates on my abdomen where it counts.
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R62 -- In regards to your 'sticky blood' comment. Have you ever been tested for hypocoagulation problems? Dr. C in MO, my old Dr, states that 90% of lyme patients test positive for this.
I was tested for it and did test positive. I took Heprain for 7 months. I am now on a natural blood thinner.
He states that treating the thick blood actually helps improve peoples pain and fatigue.
Also, in regards to your questions about your herx -- to me it sounds like a herx, but we all experience them differently.
I can relate to the heavy feeling in the chest, but I more relate this to my breathing & lungs. I think these bugs are hiding in there for me.
Well I am off for a rife session, I will post my schedule at the end of the week.
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Robin.. I should have room in my Mailbox now. if you would like to PM me still. : )
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A note that i forgot to mention and just posted on the Fry bug thread.
I was told and I do do this as well.
I do any biofilm treatments I choose and respond to and then Rife about one hour after I take that treatment.
I did this with ABX treatment as well and was told that this works with Rife as well. Even though your not "supposed" to have to worry about biofilms with rife. I have read it and heard of this and ... well I do use it. I did not notice the huge difference as I did with abx. But I do notice it does help and provokes a bigger and different herx.
ALso it works most and best when I am rifing for protozoans.
Something to try out?
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asummers... I probably should. Have had a fibrinogen test, but not the same. Good to hear you did well on heparin. Motivation for me to get tested. Thank you. I was wondering if they are in my lungs & sinuses and hoping this is die off. It is interesting that omnicef caused such a sever sinus inflammation that I had to go off of it early (on the pulsed protocol) and it is used for respiratory infections in addition to lyme. So hopefully hitting same thing with rife as with abx. It is yes breathing and lungs.
Is that the Hemex test?
Thanks, Spring.
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I know there are frequencies for "Sticky Blood".
I also know that more than one person has looked under the microscope and verified that they work.
I cannot find these frequencies, but if anyone runs across them, please post them here.
I never thought to use them before, but this thread has brought up conditions that I do not normally think about.
Thanks for the discussion.
Dan
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Dan, I was looking through all my rife books and lists and didn't see anything on "sticky blood", hypocog or anything close.
I did notice something interesting hemobartinella felis. Freqs 603 & 957. I'm looking for freqs for myself and bart or BLO. History of + testing for coagulation.
Anyone familiar with hemobarinella felis?
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R62--- Yes, you really should test for hypercoagulation!
My LLMD required that people have the "coagulation panel" blood test before going on any IV, because people who have genes for blood clots, like me and Tracy9, can't have PICC lines.
Ever since that test, i've been taking nattokinase, and am very happy with it. First i spent time reading a blood clot forum. There are more details, i;ve posted before.
I take high dose nattokinase, 10,000 FU's 3x/day w meals (that's (5) 100-mg pills per meal), plus smaller amounts on empty stomach once or twice; plus additional if symtpoms signal that i need more.
(Wrong thread, sorry to put it here)
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Here are some blood numbers I found online as possible options on the blood subject?
Red Blood Cell Production Anemia is characterized by an insufficient number of red blood cells (RBCs). RBCs carry oxygen from the lungs to tissues throughout the body. All cells require oxygen to function.
Red blood cells originate in bone marrow as erythroblasts (a "blast" is a primitive cell that develops into a mature cell). Hemoglobin (Hb), a protein that binds to oxygen, is the main component of red blood cells. Once RBCs become filled with hemoglobin they enter the bloodstream as erythrocytes. Healthy hemoglobin holds the oxygen molecules with a precise degree of force. If it binds oxygen molecules in the lungs too loosely, it cannot hold onto them and carry them away. If it binds them too tightly, it cannot release them to tissues.
Red blood cell production is stimulated by the hormone erythropoietin (EPO), which is produced in the kidneys. If the kidneys fail to produce adequate EPO, anemia develops
Normalize Red Blood Cell Production 1524 Hz
White Blood Cell White blood cells (also called leukocytes, pronounced: loo-kuh-sytes) are a key part of the body's system for defending itself against infection. They can move in and out of the bloodstream to reach affected tissues. The blood contains far fewer white blood cells than red cells, although the body can increase production of white blood cells to fight infection. There are several types of white blood cells, and their life spans vary from a few days to months. New cells are constantly being formed in the bone marrow.
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Questions???
Hypocoag would be the sticky, thick blood. Hypercoag is thin blood? Those with vector borne illnesses, don't they tend to be hypocoag?
I don't believe I ever seen anyone post about hypercoag.
Pam
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Hyper coagulation is thick blood, Hypo coagulation is thin, non clotting blood.
Just for clarification.
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Liesandmorelies---
Sorry i didn't write clearly! Certainly i should put the plates on my abdomen for candida rifing and plan to do so, just haven't got around to it.
I've been rifing for about a month.
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I have been using the EMEM5a from DT for almost 5 years. I still herx.
I got to a place where I could not take ATBs or much else really.
I feel much better than when I started but still have sx.
Bug
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Thanks Dan. I can't image me having something a** backwards or forgetting what I used to know? lol
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I'm re-evaluating the possibilities. It's a long complicated process deciding how to proceed with such a long term agenda.
I'm considering starting Tetracycline again, which always increases my health by 5-10%. Given I have almost 10 years of experience with this specific drug, and that it's cheap, I can discern results achieved using the Rife machine against the drug.
I'm very sick now, so If I attempt to Rife, chances are it may be too difficult. If I make a transition from the Tetracycline -- overlapping -- onto Rife, I can possibly avoid some needless suffering while still making adequate progress.
Dan, given I have the EMEM3D2, are the DNA frequencies worth having, whether I use them now or in the future? Also, if I missed it earlier, which site do I purchase them from?
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I think the DNA frequencies work best in the MHz range or higher. They may work at the highest frequency your machine can run. I never tested in between the three digit range and the MHz range.
I think for twenty bucks it is worth a try. I actually think the DNA frequencies may be the best chance of slowly eliminating the disease, when combined with the known effective regular frequencies. The DNA frequencies do not cause the nasty Herx that the other ones can cause.
If you order the DNA frequencies, ask for the free frequency conversion program.
Dan
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I wanted to let the people who are interested in on an upcoming device that will be avialable in April of this year.
Basically, this device is a M.O.P.A. transmitter that when used with the GB-4000 will duplicate exactly, to the best of our knowlege, Royal Rife's AZ-58 output, with proper use. Since it will broadcast frequencies about a half mile, you do have to be careful where you use it, not in an apartment in a city.
I will report more as I get more information, I feel comfortable disclosing. This does not neccesarily mean more effective Lyme treatment, as Rife never worked with Lyme, but I will be testing it, as it has the potential to be more effective.
What it does mean, is that Rife's Cancer treatment and work with other pathogens, should be able to be reproduced. The results remain to be seen, but I have no qualms about Rife's credibility. Of course, it is possible that an error in interpretation of his device has occured. But I doubt it. A lot was unravelled in the last couple of years thanks to some really good research by James and others.
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Dan -- I am able to run the DNA frequencies on my DT EMEM5 or should I wait until I get my Ultimate B3?
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You can run them at a lower frequency, and then when you get the B-3 you can convert them up to a higher range using Char's frequency conversion program.
You won't have to buy them twice, as you can just step up the frequency.
Dan
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OK. Rifed last wed and still running PM fevers, low grade 99s.. is this normal? One week later. No fever in day, just PM.
I also ended up in the ER. (20 sec on 612 with perl). Chest pains and shallow breathing.. would not go away. Md out of town. They were checking me for a blod clot in my lungs. CAT scan showed nothign remarkable. Left with a shot of toradol (for inflammation and pain).
later others confirmed to me that costrochrondritis can cause these kinds of symptoms. I could not tell if it was muscular, connective tissue or not because the pain was in my skin and felt like down into my lungs.. pressure on chest really bad.. shallow breathing even when sleeping.
I have to make appt with cardiologist. I also had heart palps and tachy.
I dont know if the rifing caused this, but it showed up a day after as did the fevers. I will not run that frequency again for that long next time.. if I have the nerve.
I have not been on any extended therapy herbal or abx for maybe 1.5 years.. so my load may be really high.. also wondering like metallic blue if I should go on abx to get load down and some in cyst form (not the pulsed protocol because that doesnt make the bugs go dormant so much ( I herxed full time on the pulsed protocol the weeks I was on and only taking MWF.. it was crazy... good but crazy as in no life the weeks on).
I am also on KPU and starting to dose up on methyl folates for methylation support (both of which will cause heavy metal dumping and have for me), so dont want to push the Bb die off.. just want some balance for now. I dont know how my liver and kidneys put up with all this.
Thanks for the hypercoagulation info. Did you all test with a regular lab or a speciality lab and can you tell me the name of the test(s)?
Thanks for looking up those codes, spring.
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I see the heart problems crop up quite often when treating Lyme. My wife has had some of this sometimes during treatment, but mostly at any time during the day.
She does have a history of Heart Disease in her family, and that just confuses the issue.
She already takes Magnesium so I doubt it is a deficiency in this mineral. I may try some potassium as this can play a role also.
The Heart thing is worrisome, and we need to sort that out. I need to find a good doctor to test her heart. Not easy around here.
Dan
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R62,
Those symptoms scream Babesia to me. Have you tried rifing for babs at all? I use 570, 20, 27 and 76 for Babs. The herx from rifing for babs is NOTHING like the herx from Lyme - I actually only felt better afterwards. Something you may want to look in to...
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It def manifested as costrochrondritis/Tietze's syndrome. And I wonder if babs can be a cause of that. I can feel where the third rib down at the cartilage is swollen.. which differentiates Tietze from costro. In fact, this was one of my very first symptoms.
I started enula for babs just in case. I have had other babs like symptoms like scary images and wicked neuro symptoms that I have heard associated with babs.
I had a flare this fall and now into winter so whatever it (all) is, needs addressing. How to balance that with KPU will be a challenge and I am not quite sure how.
I have not consistantly treated any of my infections for the last 1.5 years. This was after a digestive tract fall out after 6 months abx and 4 mepron. Then salt c for a summer and herbs on and off with a few short rounds of abx when symptoms flared badly. And this fall one, some decided to act up, again.
If anyone has ideas on how to balance keeping bugs under control while doing KPU, I would appreciate that. I am wondering if herbs at low doses might be best or rifing a very low time frames... like 5-10 seconds.. would that be a good or bad thing to do with the rife?
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Dan, I go see a cardiologist next week. I wil feel more comfortable with a work up. I also want to request a coagulation panel. After having several myers where the blood was so syrupy as it barely oozed its way down the tube.. and being so dark.. I know I need to check this out as well.
Last time at the clinic for myers Iv, the man across form me had the brightest flowing red blood.. and this shocked me. I saw what good blood is supposed to look like for the first time. I have no idea why he was getting a myers because his blood looked good.. oxygenated, flowing, clean. Mine has left sediment in the tube in the past..I am not sure if that is a terrible thing, but it sure did not look healthy to me.
I take natto and serrapeptase, but maybe not at high enough doses. I dont know how anyone can get well with sticky blood.. and sticky blood is a result of toxins and debris as well, I think.
Homocysteine levels (which can lead to heart issues) may be related to B12. There is a book called, Could It Be B12, that explains this. I am B12 deficient, so have been looking into this.
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Yes, it is made by a person who is reliable and actually makes very little off of the construction of the machine. About $300.00 for his work.
He does it to help anyone with Lyme. To build it yourself, the parts would be about $1,300.00 or more. I E-mailed him a long time ago, but when I suggested he could sell his plans for the machine, at a profit, he said he was not interested in making money off of them.
He is a straight shooter. I have a lot of respect for the guy.
If you are going to buy a Coil machine, this is place I would buy it from.
Dan
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I am trying something different tonight. The last few treatments have produced the same effects. A little sensation in the joints when running the DNA frequencies. Some slight effects when running 2016 Hz but not a lot of sensation.
I spent the whole day reading Jeff Garff's paper on Rife's various machines and what James Peters, Jason Ringas and whoever else was involved discovered. I had read it before, but I needed to refresh my memory. If anyone has not read it here, I highly recommend it.
Anyway, I got the relationship of how the harmonics may have been important to the good results of the original machine. Also, how gating produces a de-ionization of the plasma tube, which also is likely important. So I applied this to the GB-4000 and the Syphilis frequency of 2016, which bears no relationship to any Syphilis frequency listed by Rife or Vern Thompson. That makes me wonder where it came from originally.
I made a harmonic program like my 612 Hz harmonic program only using 2016 for Syphilis.
Eight harmonics of 2016 running at the same time from the GB-4000 through the Rifelabs EMX with 75 Hz gating. It is producing a rather uncomfortable result with my wife, and I am going to run it a long time. The spine is getting a brunt of the reaction.
We will see what result this produces. Sooner or later, I will stumble onto something that will bust this disease for good. Either by accident or on purpose.
Dan
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Well,
I started having wicked neuro symtoms a few hours ago with intermittent stabbing head pain and pains shooting across my forehead. This weird depression came over me a while later so I broke out my machine and zapped myself good.
I rifed for thirty minutes then let my machine cool down and did another thirty minutes for a total of an hour - this is the longest I have EVER rifed.
I ran 20, 27, 432, 864, 832, 800, 612, 1224 and finished with 10k. My head pain got worse as I rifed and is still bothering me now.
Want to add that I started my period yesterday - always coincides with worsening symptoms for me. Dan, have you noticed this with your wife? Just curious.
Anyhoo, I expect I'll have a doozy of a herx, but bring it on. I'm ready to be done with this sh**.
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She had early menopause, which is a family trait, for lack of a better term.
I am sure the shift in Hormones is not going to make it better. It doesn't seem to make the average non-Lyme woman feel any better.
Dan
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Dan -- I admire your thoroughness and dedication to research. With my brain fog, I am lucky I punch in the right frequency numbers on the rife.
LL28 -- I am curious to hear how you felt after your rife session. I seem to have a flare up in herx like symptoms when ovulating & during my period.
I think I might be over rifing again, but like you, I just want to be done with this sh**.
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I'm feeling much better today - my typical "symptom clearing" before the herx sets in. I'm enjoying it for now!
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dan- when you do a harmonics program of 2016 do you just keep multiplying 2016 times 2 and then again that answer times 2?
i want to do this on my gb4000....thx so much
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D Bergy
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Yes, times two, but since the GB can only run eight frequencies at a time up to a certain range, you also have to divide 2016 by two so you can get all eight to run at a time.
I am not at home right now, and I do not rememeber the limit, but it is in the GB book under creating autoprograms.
Start at the upper limit and work your way down until you get eight.
Run the gating also. My machine only goes up to 75 Hz gting but 1,000 woud be better, if your machine will go that high.
Dan
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springshowers
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Hi all. I have been away dealing with family and friends and just getting off IVs and Recovering from hospital stays etc.
I how have been off IV abx for a good two weeks.
Whew. I am pretty happy about it and feel a sense of freedom. I forgot how it felt not to be hooked up all day to that pool and that tubing etc.
I was prescribed plaquenil and minocycline forward and have been doing 3 days a week of Mino and every day of Plaquenil for now.
I do not want to HERX so I want to take it slow ..
I am done with Big Herxes >. I DECIDED that 100 percent now.
So I broke through that STUCK wall and NOw I am ready to move on forward. I was so stuck and bedridden so much and so SICK feeling .. I was ready to end it all. I was.
I now have some hope forward and I have to come up with a new schedule of Rife that is gentle yet consistent and I have enough Rife experience now that I feel I can plan that out more specifically now.
Thank you for all your support.
I have not been on the site much lately and I think that is a good sign.. because I was on mostly when I was laying in bed sick. I also have not been on my lap top much anymore either and another good thing since I used it because I could from the bed... Ick
My thoughts are with all of you though.. and I have read through and seem some good news from many..
Keep ON keeping on.
I will come share my protocol after a few weeks..
I am losing my house and have to figure out how to get help to move .. its too much for me.. but I have friends and family who ..might be able to help.. I hope so..
Keep on . sharing.. I am learning alot still even though I do not post so much lately I have read over the experiences and numbers and your protocols on rife. This thread has become very valuable!!!
Thank you ALL of you!!!
Blessings..
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Sorry about losing your house. That is a bummer.
I am glad you are in better spirits, and any plan is better than no plan. I hope it goes well for you.
I think you will improve more, but you know how slow that can be. I see people that seem to have a better attitude if nothing else. that can help a lot.
We will figure this out, I have not had a complete failure yet, and I can see we have a very savvy group here that can get the job done.
I am about done running the 2016 harmonics autoprogram. I am running it for one hour. A reaction to treatment, but less than yesterday. She had no symptoms or pain today from last nights treatment.
I do not think we are that far from eliminating it. Maybe it is just optimism, but we have reduced it further in the last few weeks. That much I am pretty certain of.
If this does not eliminate it, I will have a brand new carrier wave plasma device in couple months, that I hope will deal the death blow.
Dan
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lymielauren28
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Awww Summers, I'm so sorry about your house. Sometimes the burden of things does seem too much to bear...but you have such a wonderful attitude and spirit about you that I have no doubt that you will prevail and come out on the other side of all this healthy and whole.
And Dan is right - this is a very saavy group and together we'll find a way out of this mess!
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METALLlC BLUE
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So which frequencies did we decide were appropriate for
parasites (Including Fry Bug), and which did we
Detoxing Lymph
Detoxing Liver
Detoxing Kidneys
Pain Relief
Organ Support and Tissue Regeneration
I'm also curious what type of water filtration system people are using while doing Rife therapy. It has been recommended I buy a Water Inonizer Filtration system, but they cost well over the amount of money I have.
I see a good system for Distilling water. It's called the Mini-Classic II Stainless Steel Steam Distiller - Pure Water
Anyone know anything about that? What are your thoughts?
[ 02-13-2010, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: METALLlC BLUE ]
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
D Bergy
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Using the GB-4000 attached to the Rife Labs EMX I ran the 2016 Harmonic program for one hour last night. She could feel it, but it "was nothing like last night" in her own words.
I speculated that the 2016 frequency might only hit some of the Lyme, and possibly a sweep would hit more, so I ran the same frequencies in Channel Sweep mode, and it produced a more pronounced reaction, more than the first run, but not as much as the previous night. I ran this for one hour also.
She said spine and ankles were sore after the treatment, but by morning she only had a little soreness in the spine.
The first treatment, the previous night, produced more reaction than the second, and the Channel Sweep mode produced a reaction in between the two. No one else present had any reaction to the frequencies.
If memory serves me correctly, the Channel Sweep mode varies the frequency five Hz above and below the selected frequencies.
Dan
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