posted
OOPS! In watching the video for a second time I need to make a correction. It is not the rifing sessions that don't last because of hypothyroidism but because of a different type of freq treatment that recharges the cells. Sorry, my error.
quote:Originally posted by Juli: I've been watching a DVD today Rife Conference 2008 "How To Give Yourself a Rife Session" by Nenah Sylver.
One thing I learned and wanted to share is she explained one of the reasons why a rife session may not last is because of Hypothyroidism. Nenah, explained that when a person is hypo the cells cannot receive the frequency completely. (there is a better description why this happens in her video) She stated about 50% of the population is hypo even though blood test say they are normal. I personally have experienced the inaccuracy of the TSH test.
I found this interesting in my case as I am Lyme symptom free until my thyroid levels get off and it takes only just a tad then I become symptomatic as I have mentioned in my prior posts. I have only the left side of my thyroid my right side was surgically removed because of follicular cells. I think it makes my case a bit more complicated having only half of my gland but at least now I have an understanding why this may have been happening to me. I keep thinking about those few who do not seem to respond much to Rifing if this may be a cause?
Gary, I have experienced Anxiety from rifing more times then not especially when my herx's were very intense in the beginning. Abx's also created herx's with anxiety.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
I just finished reading this entire thread. Of all of the blogs I have read, this has been the most valuable. All the others seem rather nebulous while this one gets in to specifics about frequencies and machines. Thank you for all of the information. It has been very helpful.
Posts: 1 | From Ca. | Registered: Feb 2012
| IP: Logged |
RZR
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 20953
posted
I will be joining this thread soon!
Just ordered my machine from DT!
I was a bit disappointed though...I thought his wife was in remission, but he said she is better than she used to be and does ok.
-------------------- Tick bite May 2009 Diagnosed June 2009 Posts: 2329 | From SouthEast | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
Juli I have hypothyroidm and I am wondering if you can clarify what your talking about that you saw on the DVD by N Silver.
Let me know. Thanks
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Great RZR! Let us know when it gets here. Interesting Juli!
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Want to let all of you know that my soon-to-be hubby and I have both been officially given a diagnosis of Mycoplasma Pnuemonia. We have both been sick for a few months now and this whole time Ive been chasing after Lyme and Bartonella.
It finally settled down in Spencers lungs about a month ago and he went to the Dr. - they did a chest xray which came back clear. Spencer continued coughing for a couple more weeks and I continued struggling with a sinus infection. He went back to Dr. and demanded a CT scan on his lungs which came back positive for Pneumonia. Mycoplasma pneumonia.
This is what's been making us so sick. We both have terrible fatigue, joint pain, muscle pain, chronic cough and sinus infection, etc. Since starting treatment (minocycline) we've both been couphing up GLOBS of mucous. It is very thick and whitish/clearish. Spencer rifed on 690 this morning - this is the first time we've used the machine for myco. We'll see how it goes.
My biggest question is, how and where did we pick this up?? Did I get it first and give it to him or vice versa? I guess I'll never know....
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Want to also add that we have an appt with my LLMD tomorrow. I haven't seen him in almost 3 years - I'm sure he'll be sad to see me back. At this point in time and with this particular infection I'm hesitant to rely soley on rife. I think it's time for some abx and I trust my Lyme Dr. with my life....
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
posted
Mycoplasma infections with lyme are pretty common to my knowledge.
I get tested for it often. Sometimes it is high sometimes it is low.
Posts: 805 | From Utopia | Registered: Feb 2006
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Thanks jdp, just wrote that down. Jarjar, I didn't realize how common it is! I just never took the time to learn about myco before now - I just skipped over it and thought, "That is one coinfection I DON'T have, thank God" Ha!!
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
She stated 50% of the population is walking around hypo. Although she was talking about using another type of machine such as a Dan Dail machine to recharge our cells she mentioned that rifing also has this effect however, this was mentioned briefly after the fact so it was hard to get clarification.
She said our body cells contain electricity and that they are like tiny little batteries and the freqs recharges them. If you are hypo then it is difficult for the freqs to enter into the cells.
It was a little confusing but that was my take on what she was saying. Hubby, felt this was what she was saying also.
If anyone else watched this video feel free to comment! Meanwhile I'll see if I can get some clarification.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
Update~ I wanted to make sure my understanding was correct so I Pm'ed Nenah and below is her response about freqs and hypothyroidism. She explains why rife treatments may not hold.
Hi Juli. Glad you like my book ;-
If someone is hypothyroid, it won't make a difference as to whether rifing penetrates the cells. The energy WILL penetrate the cells, but with a low-functioning thyroid, the cells won't hold the charge as well as if the person's thyroid were functioning normally.
Dan Dial's unit and all other units based on Lakovsky's multi-wave oscillator recharge the cells. All rife machines recharge the cells to an extent, though some rife machines do a better job than others.
Best, Nenah __________________ Nenah Sylver, PhD Author, *The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health (2011)* Order the book and read excerpts at: http://www.nenahsylver.com
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
The Fry labs Protomyxozoa is too new of a bug as I don't believe there are any frequencies available yet.
While I haven't been tested, I believe I have Protomyxozoa.
However, if I'm not mistaken, the electricity or whatever from Rife will inhibit biofilm formation.
Also, devices such as a zappicator where you zappicate your water will also inhibit biofilm formation. At least IME.
They make water piks where the water is magnetized to inhibit biofilm formation on your teeth so I'm sure drinking the zappicated water also inhibits biofilm formation.
I think my super zappicator used on my water, and always using Rife is what's greatly responsible for my being well.
Either way, I think you should know if you get a frequency close to this Protomyxozoa as you'll be coughing a lot. At least if it's invaded your lungs as it did mine.
Posts: 52 | From USA | Registered: Sep 2011
| IP: Logged |
If several of us expressed interest in the Fry lab bug. She might want to start working on it if she hasn't already.
Posts: 805 | From Utopia | Registered: Feb 2006
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Can someone please compile the mycoplasma and chlamydia pneumonia frequencies for me pretty please? I know 690 for myco but that is it. I have pneumonia in my right lung and having some trouble breathing. I've been on mino for almost two weeks and it's helped but hadn't gotten rid of it. Damn I'm frustrated.
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
posted
For Mycoplasam Pneumonia I use 880.2 Hz and for treating CPN I use the rife/peters/protocol sweep which both have worked amazingly for me. The sweep did make me pretty sick with near like pneumonia symptoms when I first began to use it so you might want to be careful if you decide to run it.
quote:Originally posted by lymielauren28: Can someone please compile the mycoplasma and chlamydia pneumonia frequencies for me pretty please? I know 690 for myco but that is it. I have pneumonia in my right lung and having some trouble breathing. I've been on mino for almost two weeks and it's helped but hadn't gotten rid of it. Damn I'm frustrated.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Thanks Juli. What is the rife/peters protocol?
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
Hi.. Funny I contacted Her and her DNA research last year about the Fry bug and thought we could get her and Fry labs together to get her the info she needed to narrow down a frequency for it. She was interested and did respond that she was keeping it in mind to work on it and though as we all are saying its so very new..
So it will come.. I am sure. For now we have to try to use the protozoan numbers and programs and run the sweeps and the long strands of numbers and try to hit them.
He says its closest to malaria.. So try those.. Everyone!
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
I agree Mycoplasma Pneumonia is a big co infection and I have been tested positive for it from the beginning when I got sick. But it also can be latent if you had it before and you just carry it with you..
Just like so many other infections.. They can all come up at us at any time if we have exposure or past infections ... and its like stamp on us that haunts us..
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
Anyone interested in barely used BCX Ultra? I have two and a family member who was trying it out for cancer did not survive and they tried it way late near the end and it was so rough and they barely tolerated the treatments.
Especially those protozoan programs.. makes you wonder.
Anyone here gotten cancer or known someone who has had lyme.
Has anyone heard of breast papilloma tumors related to lyme patients? Anyone else ?
Breast papillomas are not at all related to the 'papilloma's caused by exposure to the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV). They simply share the name because they have similar features.
I am sure there is a rife frequency for it....? I have not looked it up yet but if anyone knows it please let me know.
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
canefan17
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 22149
master frequencies?
Posts: 5394 | From Houston, Tx | Registered: Aug 2009
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Hi spring, I may be interested. What is the difference between the bcx and the mopa?
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Okay....NOT the mopa - I meant the gb4000. My brain is currently fried from the nasty herx I'm in and I keep saying one thing but meaning another:))
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by lymielauren28: Can someone please compile the mycoplasma and chlamydia pneumonia frequencies for me pretty please? I know 690 for myco but that is it. I have pneumonia in my right lung and having some trouble breathing. I've been on mino for almost two weeks and it's helped but hadn't gotten rid of it. Damn I'm frustrated.
Mycoplasma, 88,975,777,2688,660,6600
Posts: 805 | From Utopia | Registered: Feb 2006
| IP: Logged |
RZR
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 20953
posted
Gathering info for using EMEM from D.T.
I want to be ready ASAP when my machine arrives, as I am getting sicker by the day and nothing is working!
I need to treat lyme, babs duncani, bart, mycoplasma, parasites, HHV-6, and others.
Do I need to start treating only one pathogen at a time?
What is the best way to start treatment?
-------------------- Tick bite May 2009 Diagnosed June 2009 Posts: 2329 | From SouthEast | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged |
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
mojo
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9309
posted
quote:Originally posted by RZR: Gathering info for using EMEM from D.T.
I want to be ready ASAP when my machine arrives, as I am getting sicker by the day and nothing is working!
I need to treat lyme, babs duncani, bart, mycoplasma, parasites, HHV-6, and others.
Do I need to start treating only one pathogen at a time?
What is the best way to start treatment?
I started using DT's instructions (Lyme, Bart and Babs all at once but short "times"), added Erlich after a few treatments. Then I found this thread and added and use the frequencies that are recommended here.
DT says 20, 27 for babs I think but the ones I found here (listed in the above link) make me herx like crazy.
Posts: 1761 | From USA | Registered: May 2006
| IP: Logged |
Last week we realized that my 11 year old son's long term health problems are most likely Lyme (on going symptom match and EM rash 7 years ago)
The day before we put this all together he was treated by a holistic allergist for cat allergy using a machine based on Dr. Rife's original research. My son had a dramatic reaction and has had the most extreme symptoms to date. Everything I'm reading matches for a herx and detoxification reaction.
Question: When should we use the machine again? The allergist has sent off for the "lyme kit" to match frequencies to lyme.
Should I wait until he feels better or should we treat again? It would be two weeks between treatments.
Treatments involve running current for about 1/2 hour.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Posts: 372 | From british columbia | Registered: Feb 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
It does sound like he had a herx reaction. Depending on the power of the machine and how much of a bacteria load your son may have running frequencies for 30 minutes for lyme might be to long and make him very sick. It is better to take it slow and work up.
When I first began rifing I could only tolerate 1 minute and it made me sick for days. Some can handle much longer times in the beginning but I personally would not run a half hour off the get go.
If you are going to use rifing to treat your son you might want to think about getting your own machine. It may be cheaper in the long run and much more convenient.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Juli, thank you so much for posting all those frequencies. It's more appreciated than you know:)
RZR, I would run Lyme, babs, Bart starting at 1 min per frequency. 432 Lyme, 570 babs and 832 bartonella. You'll get a feel for it pretty quickly on when to run, when to increase time, etc. Good luck to you!
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
@Dan - I know that you're awfully sick since you've not been on here in some time. Just know that we all miss you and are thinking of you and hoping you get better soon.
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
It would make sense that it was too long for my son, as like I said we were using the machine for a totally different thing.
I think I'm going to wait until he feels a bit better and then have him treated for a very short period and see if we can avoid this big reaction. Although I guess it's good that it's working.
I don't know if I've ever tried to learn this much info in this type of time frame before. Talk about crash course.
Blessing to all.
Posts: 372 | From british columbia | Registered: Feb 2012
| IP: Logged |
posted
More then likely when they were rifing him for allergies it hit something this is pretty normal. This happens to me all the time so I've learned to "test" each frequency one by one even if I think it's not related.
It isn't good to lapse the treatments weeks apart unless you've really over done it. Most will rife again once the reaction calms.
If a reaction is lasting longer then 5-6 days then you might need to rife for a shorter session. In the beginning I would herx for about 6 days when I would rife Lyme or Bartonella but now it's only hours and pretty mild at that. In the beginning it can be pretty tough.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
mojo
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9309
posted
up
Posts: 1761 | From USA | Registered: May 2006
| IP: Logged |
RZR
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 20953
posted
How difficult is it to travel with an EMEM5 machine? I still don't have mine yet and thinking maybe I should get a different machine.
How large is the machine?
-------------------- Tick bite May 2009 Diagnosed June 2009 Posts: 2329 | From SouthEast | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged |
lymielauren28
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13742
posted
Rzr, it's relatively small. I've flown with mine several times - it fits in a large duffel bag. I've never left home without it!
-------------------- "The only way out is through" Posts: 1434 | From mississippi | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged |
RZR
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 20953
posted
quote:Originally posted by lymielauren28: Rzr, it's relatively small. I've flown with mine several times - it fits in a large duffel bag. I've never left home without it!
Great! As always, you have been such a huge help, lymielauren!
Thank you!
-------------------- Tick bite May 2009 Diagnosed June 2009 Posts: 2329 | From SouthEast | Registered: Jun 2009
| IP: Logged |
posted
I'm looking for a used Doug Coil machine . If anyone has one for sale, please PM me.
Thanks.
-------------------- � Early1 Posts: 6 | From Iowa | Registered: Dec 2011
| IP: Logged |
mojo
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9309
posted
I've never thought of traveling with my Rife unless I was in a car. I usually take time off if I'm on a real vacation but I will definately consider this.
I'm just so afraid of breaking that light bulb.
Posts: 1761 | From USA | Registered: May 2006
| IP: Logged |
posted
I have the option of going on IV after seeing little progress with orals after 4 months. I'm thinking of foregoing it and buying a Doug Coil instead.
My question is has anyone started rifing here without trying long term ABX? I am worried because people I've talked to have said to wait until you know if the ABX work and that the rife would kill me at this point if I'm not careful.
Any advice would be helpful.
Thanks
Posts: 109 | From PA | Registered: Feb 2012
| IP: Logged |
pamoisondelune
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11846
posted
How long were you undiagnosed? How severe are your symptoms? How well do you detox? What reactions did you have to which abx at what doses? What detox things are you taking?
Dan treated his wife from the start with just rife; however, her body detoxed itself pretty easily, so she didn't have a problem. Also her digestive system couldn't tolerate abx.
Posts: 1226 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
| IP: Logged |
posted
I did 5-6 months of abx for a recent infection and released 7 weeks after stopping. Probably because the two LLMD's I had missed the 6 co infections I had.
Rifing is all I do since the relapse in Dec 2010 and as for me I wish I had done it in the beginning and never took the abx which made me very sick.
I had to take rifing very slow 15 second increase's when I could. It did make me very sick even with all the detoxing I was doing sometimes I wondered if I was going to die but I was dying anyway so for me I kept going.
I now have my life back and I I'm 100%. I won't say that I'm cured as of yet because I still do get mild reactions when I increase my times but I'm determined to do whatever it takes to finish the job with rifing alone. Some days I am rifing 3 hours but I have a lot of infections.
I think it's important not to start out with to powerful of a machine like the MOPA. I began with just using the Amplifier. I know of a lady who bought the AMP and MOPA and sold everything on Ebay because she could not detox fast enough but she never once used the Amplifier and started out using the MOPA.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
-------------------- diagnosed with MS, 1988-Diagnosed with Lyme Disease 2009. Also babesia and bartonella. Currently not on antibiotics. Taking Metalloclear for high lead and mercury since October 2012. Rifing since June 2012 Posts: 148 | From usa NH | Registered: Mar 2009
| IP: Logged |
posted
Juli Did you start with just the generator then added the amplifier?
-------------------- diagnosed with MS, 1988-Diagnosed with Lyme Disease 2009. Also babesia and bartonella. Currently not on antibiotics. Taking Metalloclear for high lead and mercury since October 2012. Rifing since June 2012 Posts: 148 | From usa NH | Registered: Mar 2009
| IP: Logged |
funny you ask, I was just thinking this morning maybe I should have started without the amplifier and just worked up to the amp then the MOPA over time.
I'm sure using the amp I suffered a bit more in the beginning but then again I'm sure I got faster results.
-------------------- GB 4000 With MOPA
Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the things you once thought you couldn't! Posts: 557 | From MI | Registered: Nov 2010
| IP: Logged |
The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:
The
Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey 907 Pebble Creek Court,
Pennington,
NJ08534USA http://www.lymenet.org/
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
![[lol]](graemlins/lol.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic