Lord Jesus, sooo much info. Thank you so much for starting this thread!
I found it yesterday but couldn't reply and have not been able to read all of it.
My experiences:
Very many frequencies are extremely effective for lyme, I use them carefully because herxes can be overwhelming and due to the depression, confusion and huge irritation and arms and legs next to unbearable somtimes.
I have experienced herxes lasting one to two weeks. Afterwards I get soo much better so its worth it.
In case this has not been mentioned yet:
Sitting closer to the machine makes the effect stronger EXPONENTIALLY.
I measure how close I sit very carefully because of this and make notes to be able to guess how long the herx is going to take.
More later!
Take good care all of you!
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Wow! So many new rifers! Keep it coming. I love reading all the info!
I still have so much to learn, but love my GB-4000 and MOPA!
The only time I have any sweats now is during rifing, but they are brief and few! After years of meds, I know babs is finally on it's way out for good!
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quote:Originally posted by RZR: Wow! So many new rifers! Keep it coming. I love reading all the info!
I still have so much to learn, but love my GB-4000 and MOPA!
The only time I have any sweats now is during rifing, but they are brief and few! After years of meds, I know babs is finally on it's way out for good!
Yea!!! Good to hear good reports and I know you'll have many more reports soon!
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I wanted to share a update on my Dogs wart. As some of you already know I had rifed my Dog for a wart using auto program 578 and by the second treatment it crumbled in my fingers. I probably should have kept rifing because it returned and is a bit bigger then before. I rifed her again and sure enough by the second 15 min session it crumbled again.
No coincident here.. this time I'm going to continue to rife her for a few more sessions even after it is completely gone. The power of rifing it is amazing to be able to see such results!
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Juli,
That is great news! Awesome that it only took 2 sessions. Hopefully with a few more treatments it won't return this time!
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quote:Originally posted by sick: Would someone be willing to list what the GB4000 has helped them with?
sick
I have been using the GB4000 since the end of October. I used the SR-4 amp until a few weeks ago, now the MOPA.
While using the SR-4 amp, babs sweats and chills went away, except still very occasional and mild while rifing. Before rife, I took abx 3-1/2 years with 18 months of babs treatment.
I still have bart, lyme, mycoplasma, EBV, parasites, and mercury. So, I am not better but a work in progress.
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Anyone seen the new MOPA that has a built-in digital frequency counter to set the freq. carrier? This eliminates the Elenco!
Can existing MOPAs be updated to this?
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Sick, I'm symptom free and still mopping up! Ive been rifing for two years this past Dec so I'm right on track even with all the Co's I had.
RZR,
that would be a good question for Jeff. Let me know if you hear anything and I'll do the same. When I get back home I'm going to send my first MOPA back to him and have it updated to the lastest power so that would be the time to have this updated as well if I can.
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The EMEM5A is great and much cheaper than a lot of the other machines out there. It does a good job at a fraction of the cost.
Second most powerful machine out there according to Bryan Rosner's book on rife.
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quote:Originally posted by faithful777: The EMEM5A is great and much cheaper than a lot of the other machines out there. It does a good job at a fraction of the cost.
Second most powerful machine out there according to Bryan Rosner's book on rife.
This machine was not powerful enough for me. Maybe it's because I had used abx for 32 months before I started using it. I used it 7 months, along with abx, and I could not tell it did anything.
Everyone is different, but I wish I had went straight for the GB-4000.
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Juli...
I will let you know if I hear anything about the MOPA.
I really feel like I can't send mine in for updates because I sold my original GB with SR-4 amp, so I would have nothing to use.
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If it were my child it would be my first line of defense but I'd keep it under my hat!
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Ran a sweep from 6400-6800 hz with a 3.3 carrier freq. for 30 minutes = herx! Hope it doesn't last too long.
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Yeah, that sweep does the job for sure! You probably hit a few things you didn't know you have and then some!
I ran the Big Sweep Sunday night from 24000 down to 4000 for 1 hr 15 mins and it began hitting me right away in my knees. Ouch!!! The next day I had a really bad migraine as I did when I ran it before so I ran the AP for migraines for 10 mins and it took away the pain pretty quickly but I still had pressure. Jarjar, I would have tried the AP for headache from toxins but I didn't want to gamble using all them freqs at least not just yet so I went with the AP that had a little less freqs in it. Thanks it did get me to at least try them and it worked!
I did however remove 5000 hz and 20 hz from the program because I have had bad reactions to them in the past and I wasn't up for anymore herxing. I don't know if they would bother me any more but I wasn't up for the test.
Update on my dog.. I have been running the AP 578 every other day or maybe three and I looked today and now where the wart was it is slightly oozing. Looks like I may have gotten it at ground level. Amazing!
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Question for those with the MOPA -- tonight I started running it and shortly thereafter I noticed a burning smell. Then I saw the light (tube) had turned off but the machine was still running. I quickly turned it off and checked everything and then when I turned it back on again the smell had stopped. It is running now but I am a little nervous about sleeping next to it tonight. Has anyone had this happen? What does it mean?
Also - question for Juli - how long did you rife your dog for the wart every other day? That is so cool you were able to get rid of it.
Thanks, tickbattler
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They can do that but my first/older MOPA seems to do it more often especially when I pause and then restart. I'm not sure if it's the MOPA or the GB that cause's the problem. I know Jeff once told me that he might need to ``re flash" something if if got worse. I have never smelled anything burning though so I would be concerned too. If it is working alright now it's probably fine but I would still check with Jeff.
I ran the AP 578 for two days in a row then it crumbled. I've been rifing her about every 3 days since.. I'll probably continue to rife her for a few more weeks.
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Has anyone gone on vacation and skipped rifing while gone?
We have not been anywhere in over 3 years now...mostly because I just haven't felt up to it. I think we might try a 4 or 5 night trip in April...thinking of going somewhere tropical. So, I don't think I will be able to take my rife machine with me.
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You must be feeling better if you are thinking about a vacation? YaaaA!
I would think you would hold good enough I would just rife up real good just before leaving!
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Just got back from a weeks vacation. I think it will do you good. Have lots of fun.
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I am planning ahead. Vacation would be in a couple of months. I just need to make plans and reservations.
I am still experiencing lots of herxing. I don't feel great but feeling a bit better than before. I figure by the time vacation gets here I should feel up to a little R&R.
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Welcome back Dan! Hopefully you went some where warm! Sure been cold back in the NE lately!
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We missed the 25 below zero weather so we got lucky.
A vacation can really help a person clear their head. Especially in the dead of Winter. I highly recommend it.
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quote:Originally posted by RZR: I am planning ahead. Vacation would be in a couple of months. I just need to make plans and reservations.
I am still experiencing lots of herxing. I don't feel great but feeling a bit better than before. I figure by the time vacation gets here I should feel up to a little R&R.
I still get the fastest relief from herxing with liquid bentonite clay mixed with a little water.
I always keep a bottle handy. My herxing usually involves upset stomach not sure what your main symptoms are.
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My herx symptoms are pain and aching, especially lower back. I don't get upset stomach very often.
What brand liquid bentonite do you use? I need to try that.
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I use Great Plains bentonite detox. My symptoms are more upset stomach from die off that I have trouble with. I pay around 10.00 bucks for a large bottle at my health food store so it's not expensive item. Do take Probiotics later as it carries "everything" out of your system.
I use to have an old ache in my lower back from an old injury. Springshowers posted 2 frequencies that hit a lot of pathogens seems like they weren't large numbers. Perhaps 75ish and 125ish. Perhaps someone else remembers them, please post.
Anyway, one of them took away the pain in my lower back. Springshowers said the she had "riders" as she called them in her back also and the right freq would remove them. Just a thought. The numbers are in this thread somewhere.
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Thanks Juli for the help above. So cool about your dog's wart! Did you just do 5 mintues per day for 3 days?
I'm also wondering how close you sit next to the tube when you rife? I put mine as close to me as I can and even sleep with it right next to me. Do you think that's OK? Thanks! tickbattler
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When I was really sick I sat the tube in my lap now it's within a couple of feet of me.
When I rifed my dog I just let it run the defaulted time which is about 15 minutes.
I just wanted to say.. I feel soooo good!! Yesterday I rode my bike 3 1/2 miles peddling super fast none stop plus walked over a mile. I didn't quit because I was hurting or tired I just got lazy! Lol! It is so wonderful to have my life back and not be controlled by Lyme and it's co infections!
Thanks to God who guided me to Dan's Path!
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Ran the Big Sweep using a 3.1 CF again last night as I have been running this sweep every Sunday for the past 5-6 weeks working it up slowly or should I say down.
Last night I finally ran the entire span sweeping from 24000 hz down to 500 hz. I added another 15 minutes to the sweep as I always do. Normally I wake with a off the wall migraine as a part of my herx but this morning I was surprised to wake feeling AWESOME!
I still have a ways to go before reaching the full 4 hour run time but I'm excited to finally get a break. I think what this means is that everything I have been rifing for in the past has done a pretty good job and my body is now helping me fight off more quickly anything that might be lingering.
Happy Dance!!!
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Wonderful news, Juli!
I am so happy you feel so well! Now, I am praying the rest of us can get there!
I am just in pain 24/7....not sure if it's from herxing or what. It is tolerable, but is just constantly there. I am in more pain today after running a sweep last night from 6400-6800 hz for 30 minutes, so hopefully it's herxing.
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quote:Originally posted by jarjar: I use Great Plains bentonite detox. My symptoms are more upset stomach from die off that I have trouble with. I pay around 10.00 bucks for a large bottle at my health food store so it's not expensive item. Do take Probiotics later as it carries "everything" out of your system.
I use to have an old ache in my lower back from an old injury. Springshowers posted 2 frequencies that hit a lot of pathogens seems like they weren't large numbers. Perhaps 75ish and 125ish. Perhaps someone else remembers them, please post.
Anyway, one of them took away the pain in my lower back. Springshowers said the she had "riders" as she called them in her back also and the right freq would remove them. Just a thought. The numbers are in this thread somewhere.
I am still searching for the frequencies Springshowers used for "rider" that helps lower back pain, but can't find them. Anyone have the answer?
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Methinks you just killed a whole lot of something. Mission accomplished.
I hope the rashes go away in a short time, but some detoxing is likely in order.
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quote:Originally posted by jarjar: I use Great Plains bentonite detox. My symptoms are more upset stomach from die off that I have trouble with. I pay around 10.00 bucks for a large bottle at my health food store so it's not expensive item. Do take Probiotics later as it carries "everything" out of your system.
I use to have an old ache in my lower back from an old injury. Springshowers posted 2 frequencies that hit a lot of pathogens seems like they weren't large numbers. Perhaps 75ish and 125ish. Perhaps someone else remembers them, please post.
Anyway, one of them took away the pain in my lower back. Springshowers said the she had "riders" as she called them in her back also and the right freq would remove them. Just a thought. The numbers are in this thread somewhere.
I am still searching for the frequencies Springshowers used for "rider" that helps lower back pain, but can't find them. Anyone have the answer?
Actually she shared the two frequencies as just two frequencies to hit a lot of pathogens. Just got lucky and one of them stopped my back pain.
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Good to know I am herxing!
How many months does it take before most start feeling better?
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It can take time. In the beginning while herxing I was sicker. If I didn't pause to see if I was better I always feared I was sicker.
I know you are pushing just like I did you also know you have gotten improvements but if you are concerned then stop for many days maybe 4 or 5 maybe even longer and see what you got when the dust settles. Make sure you stop everything else your doing too to get a clear assessment such as herbs, meds Etc.
The first year my herxing was making me very sick because I was herxing 99.9% of the time. Sometimes the cyst are bursting and that can cause a cycle of pain. I've read where they can stay dormant up to two years. I don't know how that works with rifing but I have had some set backs when I though I was in the clear I'm now thinking this is possibly why.
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Juli...
Herxing 99.9% of the time....that's me!
You are so right! I keep pushing, pushing....just want this nightmare to end! I am going to have to tie my hands behind my back to force myself to take a few days off rife. Maybe it would be good to run some detox programs and nothing else.
I do think some herxing could also be from taking Lamisil for nail fungus I developed thanks to good old antibiotics! It also kills systemic yeast. I can't stop that med because it is 6 weeks straight and then no more...2-1/2 weeks left.
Did you always run detox programs 203 and 471 for just 2 minutes?
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After every daily session for the first year or longer I ran AP 203 and 471 for just a few minutes each. AP 203 really helped cut the intensity of my herx but 10,000 Hz really helped with the Bart die off mostly the spinning head pain and pressure.
Been meaning to ask you~ did you ever get yourself some of that Go Less for the IC issues and if so has it helped? I think a big portion of the bladder issues are caused by Bart.
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I never did get the Go Less. My bladder issues come and go. Besides that, I am spending so much $$$ on supplements and everything.
I did order some hormone suppositories but haven't received them yet. I wanted to try that first since I have other hormonal issues.
I am also supposed to start the Cowden protocol in another week or so. My LLMD says it helps with parasites and yeast. I may wait a bit though until my symptoms settle down.
I have been running 10,000 Hz after each rifing session, but only been running AP 203 and 471 a few times a week. Maybe I should increase those.
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Last 2 nights, I only ran detox frequencies.
I am feeling a bit better! I am doing the happy dance because this means herx and rife is working! I am still going to wait another day or two before rifing again.
Thanks, Juli for reminding me that I don't need to keep pushing.
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Yes, don't under estimate them detox freqs!
Glad your getting a feel for it!
Happy Dancing with you! cha cha cha!
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Juli,
Are you still running the Big Sweep 24,000 Hz to 500 Hz? If so, how long are you running it now?
Have you stopped any of your single frequencies?
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