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Thank you Jarjar. I've ordered Rosner's book to get an idea on how to begin to understand rife technology. I still do not know if there is a difference between rifing and coiling.
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I really don't think a TENS unit will do what you need. Then again I've never read of anyone having success with a TENS unit so just my opinion on this.
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I also doubt that a TENS device is going to do the job. I would look into it a bit before buying one for treatment purposes.
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I have a Tens unit and it's designed to help pain. I used it to help me with the pain when I was very sick. Helped a little!
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I personally have not used any specific candida frequencies. From what others have reported it is tough to reduce.
The CAFL says that some think metals need to be reduced to have an effect. Not sure about that but I do think you need to change the environment to keep it at a low level. It is likely impossible to eliminate using any method, but you should be able to reduce it.
If I were targeting it, I would use some of the listed frequencies, I also would take oil of oregano and coconut oil regularly for starters. I have no expertise at this but that would seem a logical place to start. Fermented foods are bound to help.
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It is sold as a tens unit but can run frequencies like any other Rife device. It was rebranded and the price increased in the last few years. From what I have been told they are sold under a multilevel marketing arrangement.
These machines do work fine but they are more expensive than more versatile machines. Probably because multilevel marketing pretty much dictates that the product sold has to have a large profit margin.
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The site that i went to showed it as a 3,500.00 machine. Not sure if insurance is going to pay for part of it or what.
Personally, I would go with a machine that you know for a fact that people have put lyme into remission with such as the gb4000 as a start with plans of adding the MOPA later if needed. Depends what you can afford. Good deals can be found on used units on ebay.
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Just an FYI.
My wife's Lyme is back. She is not cured and so the battle starts again.
In remission for quite a while, but back nonetheless.
I can get it under control easy enough, but it was not cured as I had hoped.
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Sorry to hear Dan and I think it would be premature for anyone to say they are cured. The good thing is you know the path to remission with your MOPA.
I find I do feel better when I stick to a gluten free low fat and low sugar diet while rifing.
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Dan, I would not rule out the possibility that you cured her. Our practitioner believes that lyme can be cured just as with any other bacterial infection. She has cured herself but has been reinfected 4 times since then over the years.
Did you consider that she may have been reinfected? It is quite coincidental that her symptoms are starting back up in the spring. Many people are already reinfected this spring in our area. And mosquitoes and biting flies carry it now, especially in endemic areas. More than half of the mosquitoes I have tested do carry babesia and some also carry lyme and bartonella. There is a good article on Dr. Mercola's website (archives) about this very point...lyme is no longer just a tick-borne disease but an insect-borne disease.
Last year alone my children were reinfected at least 8 times and only one of them had a tick bite. They did get insect bites. I know they were reinfected based on EDS testing which is able to detect new infections vs. old. After treating the lyme with herbs since last summer, we are not finding any sign of lyme in us.
We are testing free of lyme and coinfections so far this year but we have yet to get any bites. We no longer go outside in the evenings - it is just not safe around here with all of the mosquitoes.
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Dan - Sorry to hear your wife is having symptoms again.
Just wanted to mention the ticks are really active and plentiful this year here in Minnesota, we saw our first one over a week ago and have since found 8 more on our animals.
Really a shame - I just don't feel the same about the outdoors anymore.
Take Care and good luck with the re-treatment.
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So I am still very sick with a relapse & wheelchair bound.
Found out yesterday that they will need to put in another port 😥
Does anyone know if I can rife with a port/ IV central line?
Rosners book says if you have metal in your body it can burn your organs?
I think the port is all plastic but not sure. I asked my doctor & he didn't know.
I'm sure the surgeon should know if I can use it or not, but anxious to get the answer sooner.
Thanks
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I have a crap load of metal staples throughout my intestinal tract and frequency treatments have not had any effects where they are located. Since I have been opened up recently I can say I know that for certain.
I guess I have no reason to suspect reinfection. There are no Mosquitos yet, but they will be here soon. Deer ticks are out now, as Cindy had one crawling on her the other day. She has not been bit by anything.
We were on vacation in Florida and were on a cruise. I think it is likely that the strong sun brought it back out for some reason. I am not sure what the sunlight connection is with Lyme, but it always has affected it.
I am glad I have the treatment down pretty well by now. I will have her symptom free again in a short time. I will have to do a little more thinking on how to cure it completely. We were close and I think it can be done. Just have to have a little more knowledge and some luck.
I hope this is not discouraging to anyone. She has not even missed work from this. It is just an annoying set back.
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just a thought.. you mentioned Cindy has and can become symptomatic when going out in the sun.. Has lupus ever crossed your mind as a possible connection?
I have read that this is one of the autoimmune disorders that can be caused by underlying lyme or co's but I don't know enough about it to know if the sun would affect someone with lupus internally.
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Hello Juli
I am somewhat familiar with Lupus because I developed a butterfly rash as a result of taking azathioprine for my Crohn's disease. I suspected it as one possibility and did some research on it. I ruled it out because it was my only symptom, and seborria was more likely.
When Cindy was more heavily infected strong sunlight exposure would make her more symptomatic. It read several possible explanations for this over the years, but I do not specifically remember the mechanisms involved. Lost some memory with last bout of Crohns due to meds.
The gist of it is that the sun exposure benefits the bacteria in some way. Maybe the reason for the Marshall Protocol avoiding vitamin D or another reason. Just don't remember.
She did not respond to 2016 Hz prior to our trip, but now she does. I could be wrong but in my mind no one should respond to that frequency unless they have Lyme or Syphilus or maybe another related Spirochete.
The symptoms prior to and reactions during and after treatment are identical to prior reactions before remission.
I can also predict that her symptoms will less now that I have treated her. Probably starting today. She does not have any symptoms that indicate anything other than Lyme, but I am sure it does affect her immune system.
I will have to text her and see how she is doing today. See if my prediction is accurate.
Best regards.
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I should have said "no one should respond to 2016 Hz unless they have active, non cyst form Lyme".
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Another thought regarding future Lyme treatments.
To my way of thinking on this reoccurance of symptoms, I only need a cyst buster to rid her of cyst form or force it to convert to active form.
I can kill active form with little difficulty. As far as I can tell, there is no known frequency that will destroy cyst form.
I have two possible methods that may get rid of cyst form. One is Nattokinase. I gave it to her once but the response was so bad I never have it to her again. She got a headache that was so severe it resulted in a trip to the ER. I thought she was having a stroke.
The other option is to use Char Boehm's DNA frequencies for Lyme. I do remember that they seemed to cause Lyme to convert to active form Lyme. That was based on observation of her symptoms a day or two after using them.
I would rather use the first method, but start with a very small dose. I guess she will have to make the decision.
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I wa correct. She is feeling better today. Do I know my patient or what!
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Yeah, I know all about the memory thing and those darn drugs! Like you, sometimes I know the answer just can't remember why I know!?
The prednisone always causes me to get a sunburn rash on my face, neck and chest. Then when someone points it out my nerves makes it worse, and it will start to burn too. I'm still pretty rashy from withdrawing from the drug. I just hate taking these strong drugs but what can we do!
I know your good at figuring this stuff out.. I have no doubt you'll have her back in tip top shape in no time! I'm thinking it might be best for me to keep rifing ever so often for the rest of my life. Ed, is saying maybe every two weeks just as preventive. Always a guess, but I suppose we are making progress and that is what is important!
As Ed always tells me~ The Vicissitudes of life! Life is nothing but having to solve one problem after another!
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Dan, I'm curious, did you just use 2016 with Cindy? How long did you run it? Did she have much of a herx before she started feeling better? Thanks, tickbattler
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Originally I ran the big sweep because she was not feeling right. While running it she felt it somewhat and the next day she was achy in her joints.
Still not sure what it was but suspecting Lyme or maybe Bart I ran 2016 Hz for ten minutes. She was squirming and felt pain during the treatment. At that point I knew it was Lyme.
I was pretty sure ten minutes was about the max she could take and still remain functional.
The next day was pretty rough but she worked all day. Today she was quite a bit better so she only had about 36 hours where she felt crappy.
I also will test for Bart, but I will have to clear most of the Lyme first to get an accurate test.
I will run 2016 again for 15 minutes Friday. So she has recovery time on the weekend. I am pretty sure her reaction will be less since we treated fairly soon as symptoms started.
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Hi Gang, I have a EMEM unit on order - can't wait!
What would you recommend for frequencies and times for a first timer? Don't want to over treat myself the first time.
Thank for the help!
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The best single Lyme frequency I use is 2016 Hz.
Run it for one minute and see what your response is to that. If you get little response up the time by a minute. If it hit you pretty hard stay at a minute until it does not.
Wait a week between treatments until you know how long it takes to get a reaction.
Let us know how that goes. That is how I would do it.
Good luck.
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Thanks D Bergy!
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Dan, Thanks for the info on how you tested your wife....it helps to hear how you do this. Is the big sweep the 4 hour one? Did you do the full 4 hours? I would worry that I would hit so many things that I would herx like crazy. Do you plan to use 2016 on her nightly or do you think you can knock it down doing it less?
Unfortunately one of my boys was reinfected recently with lyme and babesia. His behavior and functioning was declining rapidly this past week and it was hard to get him to go to school. Yesterday I took him to two different practitioners - one muscle tested and found the infections and the other did electrodermal screening and found them. She could tell me how recent they were - the babesia was within the last week (he got a mosquito bite on his neck last weekend) and the lyme was approx 4 weeks ago. We never saw a tick but he did have 2 mosquito bites this spring.
He was becoming autistic last night and screaming and crying and hitting his head and saying violent things...and of course wouldn't go to his baseball game. I started him on the DR. K lyme cocktail and he was so much better just after one dose. Went to school with only minimal protesting and was so much more manageable tonight. We have a long way to go once again but I was so thankful to see an improvement.
I may try to rife him on 2016 to see if he complains of a headache or other symptoms when I do it. None of us have had any reaction or herx to it in the past, but we were lyme free according to our testing.
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I only ran the big sweep for an hour and fifty minutes. I cut it short because she had to leave. I was only planning a two hour run.
I wa planning on waiting until tonight to treat her again, but our grand daughter was coming over so I treated her last night instead.
First I ran 2016 Hz for twenty minutes. Then I ran the Rife/Peters Lyme sweep, only I tightened up the range from 6500 to 6700 Hz. I knew from previous experience that the original Syphilus frequency of 6600 Hz is real close to the working Lyme frequency. I wanted to try reconfirm that if possible, by her reaction. I ran it for an hour.
She felt the sweep on and off somewhat. When the sweep got just before 6600 I asked her if it was bothering her. She said she was not feeling much right then. I just watched as it hit 6600 and as it hit 6602.8 she jumped in the chair. For about three minutes she was real uncomfortable then she did not feel it too much.
I had already treated her pretty long but I did not think she would herx as much this time as I hit a lot the last treatment. I know she is not loaded with active Lyme.
I decided to test the sweep further so I narrowed it further to just 6595 to 6605 Hz. A ten Hertz sweep to try better home in on the exact frequency. This time she did not feel the sweep until it got to 6601.2 then she was making the pain face and moving around.
I am not sure this method of finding frequencies is accurate to the exact hertz but I think it is safe to say that she is not feeling it prior to the effective frequency. My best estimate would be that the effective Lyme frequency is almost exactly the same as the effective Syphilus frequency or between 6600 to 6603. That is when you are running the 3.3 MHz carrier frequency. For this sweep, it is the combination of the two frequencies that does the work
I will likely treat her with 2016 and the super short sweep similar to the last one I ran. I will treat her when we can do it probably two or three times a week.
I have a couple other tests I want to do and hopefully I can learn something from them as well. I have this unusual opportunity to discover things that normally does not exist because of her acute sensitivity to these treatments. She does not know what frequency is being run or where it is in the sweep.
I hope these responses can help everyone with their treatment as well.
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I forgot to mention that she was fine today. I thought she would feel a little under the weather but she said she felt fine all day.
I guess that confirms it to me that there was not enough left to cause much of a herx. She sure felt it as it was running though.
The good news is if everyone can get to this point on treatment it is pretty easy to control, although I am still looking to cure it completely.
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Dan, Thanks for keeping us updated! Glad u got it knocked down that quickly.
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Does anyone know if there is a place online where people are buying and selling rife machines?
I thought there was, but I can't find the site.
Thanks for any help.
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Dan, your wife is so lucky to have you taking care of her. I wish my husband had a little mad scientist in him.
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Yes, Cindy is very fortunate to have Dan!!! It's bad enough dealing with this disease but trying to figure out a treatment plan when your so very sick is a totally different level.
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I do know you can find them on ebay as often gb4000 show up on the site. I have seen used ones for sale long ago on a yahoo rife site I believe. Juli or Dan probably know the site name.
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The site that listed used frequency equipment for sale was taken down due to spam a while back.
E-Bay Craigslist and the Rife Forum are the places that have them most often.
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Well, I'm pretty sure my husband has been reinfected now too. He said he felt lymish today and has a bad headache and his head feels like it's in a vice.
I ran the 2016 frequency on him tonight on the MOPA for 10 minutes and his headache and fatigue worsened a little when it was running. He didn't have any reaction to it a month ago. I also did the 6550 to 6700 sweep for 30 mintues and he did notice an increase in symptoms around 6600 so I am pretty sure he has lyme. I also suspect babesia because he feels more fatigued than normal (and mosquitos tend to carry that more than anything). I ran our EDS/rife machine on babesia and lyme frequencies separately and he had a reaction to each. I want to test babs on the MOPA too.
What babs frequency would you pick to test to see if he has it? I have heard 432 can also hit lyme so I'd like to try one that seems to only hit babs. I know 5777 is for protozoa in general so I would rather look for something more specific to babesia.
I knew it was just a matter of time before we all started getting reinfected! My son last week and my husband this weekend. It rained a lot this past week so the bugs are out. We can't expect not to get reinfected around here with all of the flying insects carrying stuff. Very frustrating....
Thanks, tickbattler
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Oh No! So sorry to hear that! RZR, told me she got hard hits uing 570 hz and 76 hz for babesia.
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Thanks Juli - will try them both!
Dan - what is your protocol for babesia?
Thanks, tickbattler
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I don't really have one. I ran all the CAFL frequencies and later added Char Boehm's DNA frequencies.
One thing I do know is you have to treat for a month or two after all symptoms are gone or it comes back.
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I think babesia duncani is still a problem for me. I treated with Mepron or malarone for nearly 2 years and have been rifing for almost a year.
I still have sweats and chills that have increased since starting Enula last week. I have been in a constant herx.
I know others seem to have gotten rid of babesia with rife, but nothing is working for me.
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