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I used to think that our babesia would never be cured when my kids took mepron/zith and artemisinin for a year and then still had it. When we switched to our natural EDS practitioner, her protocol worked. The only thing she uses to kill babesia is Agrisept-L. It works, but takes about 7 months. We have found the Dr. K cocktail works much faster but it is more expensive and time consuming. When we are reinfected, we take both the cocktail and the Agrisept. Actually, we are pretty much always on the Agrisept-L...it is also great for killing candida.
When we first started with our EDS practitoner, I didn't believe the Agrisept alone would kill it so I added herbs that tested as hitting it. It was interesting that Enula hit it in some of us and Noni hit it in others but neither tested as being able to get rid of it alone. But they did help knock it down a bit. I added them in with the Agrisept.
You might try the Agrisept to see if it causes a herx or perhaps improvement? It is around $20 and you can get it on Ebay from my source: K. Iverson.
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tickbattler .. how do you keep getting reinfected??
Just wondering if I can Rife every day for yeast? Is that too often?
thanks! .. if you have a favorite frequency for it, let me know!
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tickbattler .. how do you keep getting reinfected??
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tickbattler.....
Thanks so much for the info.
How much Arisept-L do you take? I will definitely add it.
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Lymetoo - I have spent a lot of time on this subject over the past two years as I have been trying to get my family back to full health. I started noticing that by the end of each winter we would all be feeling good but then when spring came, we would get sick again. We live in one of the worst areas in the country for lyme/coinfections.
I strongly believe that the majority of the mosquitoes around here are carrying lyme or one or more of the coinfections and are reinfecting us. Reasons for this:
1. Dr. Mercola's article about lyme no longer being a tick-borne disease but rather an insect-borne disease. He cites Dr. K*** in the article.
2. My practiioner who is very experienced in EDS screening can determine by testing us when we have a new infection. She can also test mosquitoes and ticks to see if they are carrying the infection (even if the mosquito or tick is dead, the bacteria frequencies can still test in them).
3. I have observed symptoms appearing within a day or two of mosquito bites in my children. The bites that caused the issues are often more red and inflamed than normal mosquito bites. The mosquitoes that caused these issues have been tested and found to carry one or more of the infections. For example, last fall our babysitter was helping one evening and a mosquito got into the house and bit her twice. (She had been previously tested by our practitioner and was found not to have lyme/coinfections). That night she had a hard time sleeping and felt short of breath and was having heart issues. I told her to start the Agrisept because I suspected babesia. She did and her symptoms eventually went away but she had to be careful not to ramp up too fast or she would have a large herx. We had saved the mosquito and took it to my EDS practitoner who tested it and found it to be carrying babesia and bartonella. For some reason the bartonella did not appear to be transmitted with the bites but the babesia did.
4. Babesia seems to be the most common infection transmitted by the moquitoes. I don't think that it is coincidental that it is a cousin to malaria which is transmitted by mosquitoes.
5. Last year my kids were reinfected anywhere from 6 to 9 times based on testing each month with our EDS practitioner. This past fall was the worst time of our lives...two of my kids developed PANDAS or PANS symptoms and my daughter started getting RA and couldn't walk well (caused by EBV)...I am guessing because of the assault on the immune system from the reinfections. By January, all were testing free of lyme but still battling parasites and EBV and CMV. The PANS symptoms are mostly gone and my daughter is playing tennis and back at school. My son has improved but is still struggling especially after the recent reinfections (two mosquito bites that we know of) this spring.
I want to move to CO or somewhere without mosquitoes!!!!!!!
753, 76, 26 are good babs freq. for me.
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rzr - I would start slowly to see how you react. It also hits candida so it can cause herxes. You can start at a drop or two twice daily and work up to 20 drops twice daily. Mix in water or juice.
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Thanks jarjar - will try those babs freq's! tickbattler
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quote:Originally posted by tick battler: rzr - I would start slowly to see how you react. It also hits candida so it can cause herxes. You can start at a drop or two twice daily and work up to 20 drops twice daily. Mix in water or juice.
tickbattler
Anyone know if it's ok to take Aricept while on the full Cowden protocol? I know I would probably need to separate it by a couple hours.
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I don't see how it would be problem. We take it with abx and any herbs. But I am not an expert...
We never have had a problem and don't need to separate it from other things.
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I posted not too long ago about the sweep in the updated universal freq. list for lyme, From 25400 to 29400. As mentioned the RP sweep falls in these numbers but includes a lot more.
I did work with the sweep and I would have to wait 48 hours for herx's to clear. While doing that I stopped running my regular individual freq. and started slipping some. I'm back to running the sweep for a lower time so I can run my individual freq. but there is something to the sweep so one has to respect it and realize that delayed herxes can take place.
Curious if anyone else has worked with it or if they do in the future please give me some feedback.
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When I first began running the Rife Peters Protocol sweep.. Jeff, had warned me to be very careful on how I ran this sweep because according to Jeff many people were running this sweep totally wrong! And not in the way it was designed!
I know the original sweep is ran from 6400 hz sweeping to 6800 hz using a 3.3 CF running it for 1-2 hours. I see you mention above this other sweep hitting the RP Sweep numbers.. when running this sweep from 25400 hz to 29400 hz. I'm wondering if this larger sweep should really be concidered a replacement or used instead of the RP sweep? Maybe I missed something in the new freq book?
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That is a good question and perhaps Jeff would know.
I was able to work up the RP sweep up to 2 hours including the expanded sweep for babs you mentioned. I used the 3.3 cf.
I started running into issues when I passed the one hour mark on the new sweep. Should say the directions say to run it for one hour. I assumed that was a safe time to start the sweep. I ran it on the 3.3 CF but book doesn't mention what CF to use.
It was trying to run it more then an hour and that was when the 48 hour herx started.
Would be interested to see if RZR or Tickbat gets the same reaction I did with MOPA. I wouldn't start more than 30 or 45 minutes for first sweep
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I am confused.. the new sweep? Where are you getting the directions? Sorry! I'm looking in my new freq book and I'm not seeing this new sweep? What page are you on?
When I began the RP sweep I started with 10 mins with no reaction. I found my herxing point was at about 15 mins. I added 5 mins until I reached my goal which was 90 mins. It was slow going for sure!
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On page 68 under lyme disease primary. Sweep from 25400 to 29400 for 1 hour.
tutu, I don't recall people in the thread discussing yeast freq. I suggest you look at the CAFL list and find out which freq. you get a hit from.
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Tutu, why don't you build your way up to daily. Start with 2-3 times a week and see how you feel.
You'll know if it's too much for your body to handle. Back down and then build up.
I use CAFL freqs.
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Ah, now I see it! It is a 1 hour sweep sweeping from 25400 hz to 29400 hz.
I personally would not run it in place of the Rife Peters Protocol sweep! Although, it may be hitting the same freqs at a higher harmonic that are in the RP sweep, I don't believe it would be entirely the same. The RP sweep was designed with a particular calculated math formula using the 3.3 CF that makes it most effective. I don't know the math or how it is calculated but I know the sweep works! Thank God for those who do!!!
The biggest reason that I would not use it in place of the RP sweep is because it is sweeping 4000 freqs for 1 hour. The RP sweep is running approximately 400 freqs (depending on your personal span) for 1-2 hours so it is a much more condensed sweep in my opinion.
That's just my take on it! I'm sure it's a good sweep but it is not the Rife Peters Protocol sweep by any means! I have often wondered why higher harmonic's of this RP sweep wasn't being used.. I think there is a good reason for it!
Dan, wondering what your thoughts would be?
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I have been running the RP sweep from 6400 to 6845 with a 3.3 CF for 1 hour 15 minutes and no longer herxing from it.
Should I increase the time or is this goal?
Shoot.....my bad error......I meant 2 hours 15 minutes......key in 135 minutes.
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If it were me running that wide of a span of freqs I would run it for the full two hours or maybe even 2 hours and 15 mins. I sweep from 6470 hz to 6740 hz which is a total of 270 freqs. I calculated this run time by taking the actual span of the sweep (400 freqs) and calculating how long each freq was being hit if ran for two hours. If memory serves me correctly when I took this sweep and calculated the entire 400 freqs for two hours I think I came up with about 3.5 seconds per freq. Obviously, this is just a guess on my part being no math wiz... I realize when sweeping it is also hitting freqs in between each whole freq.. I think that is called tenths of a freq? It don't mean I'm right in how I'm doing it, it's just how I calculated my own run time.
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I also have thought about running the Rife/Peters sweep at a higher harmonic. I think the reason is because this is how the Hoyland beam ray instrument worked. It would be a good question for Jeff.
I agree that with any longer sweep you are only hitting any given pathogen for a short time. It may hit it more than once through harmonics but never for a long time. That is why either sweep is likely not enough for the very resilient bacteria associated with Lyme infection. The sweeps should be run as long as practical which two hours is probably as long as anyone cares to treat.
Either sweep should be used in conjunction with the single frequencies for any infection. I don't think the sweep is enough on its own. I do think the sweeps hit other pathogens we do not know we have and possibly hits the ones we know we have with frequencies that work, but we may not know about yet.
That is just my opinion, but both the sweeps and the single frequencies work well, but one does not replace the other.
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Sorry....my error...I do run the RP sweep for 2 hours 15 minutes.
Yes, I also agree single freqs are still needed and I run those as well.
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Jeff, once told me if you know the pathogen then use the single freq. However, I did not use that rule and only used the RP sweep for treating CPN, Myco pneumonia and Erlichia.
I don't know if it means anything or not but the last recent lung infection that was cultured did not show any of these pathogens.The final report ended up being all common bacteria that is found in every ones lungs according to my Pulmo. At first the floor doctor thought i had Staph or strep then even suggested possible MRSA! Yikes! But thank God he didn't know how to read the report correctly according to my pulmo!
I know the RP sweep has worked for me because when I re tested these pathogens not so very long ago I had absolutely no reactions to any of the single freqs that once had given me a major herx after running them for just one minute.
Probably is better to run the single freqs along with the sweeps if you can, but in my case I had so many pathogens it was the only way I felt I could treat them all. Maybe I got lucky I don't know but so far so good.
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Thanks for the replies on the sweep. I have been out of town for several days and just now getting back to the world of rife.
There is something to the higher sweep as my rash on my neck and chest was clearing up while using it. The original RP sweep wasn't doing that.
When I get motivated perhaps I will get in touch with Jeff and pick his brain about the difference between the two sweeps and get more details.
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My neck/chest got rashy when I herxed from any sweep or freq that hit me
Keep us posted what Jeff tells you about the sweep.
Interesting though, I noticed this rash surfacing again when I was real sick lately with my lung infection.. it's still some what visible Hmmm.. maybe it will never completely go away? Stress will make it worse too! Mine will itch also. I'm thinking it might be a adrenal thing. My adrenals are very fatigued and I have read that it can cause this flushing. Just my guess.?!
Just two days ago Doc added adrenal calm med and I did notice it is much less already, so maybe it is linked!
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I have been on ABX for 6 years and am considering transitioning to rife/herbals...
I have ordered Rosner's book and have been reading through all of the threads here,
downloading frequency information from Lymenet and other sites and trying to learn as much as I can.
As of now, I am leaning toward ordering a GB4000. I am trying to understand the "MOPA", and understand it's role with the Rife unit. Is it really necessary to have it initially?
For those of you who have a GB4000 (Juli ?), would you be willing to share (PM or direct me to) a reliable vendor/source?
My husband also has Lyme so I am hoping we will both both benefit from Rifing.
I was looking at a small RifeDigital unit for about $600, but it appears this may be bioresonance....
Thank you... so much to learn!
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I created a private FaceBook Rifing Lyme group with categorized pre wrote documents for rifing information. Much of the info has been taken from this site and categorized for easy access.
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I really need to find the frequencies for HHV-6 (Human Herpesvirus Type 6). For the life of me, I can't find in the CAFL listings, or, in my gb4000 freqency booklet.
What I don't understand is that I searched the CAFL listing (electroherbalism.com) and it refers to HHV-6 twice: under the MS freqs and under the Rosealis freqs it says to use herpes type 6 freqs.
(and it lists dozens of different herpes viruses under "Herpes"....but not hhv6??????
A HUGE thankyou in advance!
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I noticed on the FB site you mentioned about feet pain. I don't like to make lengthy post on FB because my laptop goes crazy sometimes.
Foot pain is an issue I deal with off and on. I stumbled upon these freq. one day while rifing from the bottom of my feet. I got up and my foot pain was gone, temporarily anyway. I run these at higher harmonics. 979-toxo 612-lyme 357-bart&protozoa 76-babs and many pathogens 27144=848.25-bart (intuition brought this to me) 26-babs 753-babs&protozoa
I labeled this in my notes as my famous feet frequncies. I will copy and paste this and try to bring over to FB.
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I sent esea a pm for the correct link to Chars site for HHV6 freq. So we will let this issue go unless someone knows of free frequencies.
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Thanks, jarjar. I am using some of the freqs, but some not. I will try adding those in.
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I want to pose a question to the MOPA gang or anyone else using a tube device.
I find I get some strong herxing from propping my feet up on my mini trampoline with my MOPA tube right in front of my feet.
It feels like the frequencies travel up the meridians of my feet and my stomach starts herxing.
I'm thinking of running the freq from my feet one day and the next day rotate and lay down and run the frequencies from my head.
Is that basically what you did with 2 mopa's Juli,one by head and one by feet?
Perhaps rotate one day where the tube is sitting on my lap. Would like to hear what works best for everyone.
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I sat in my easy chair and placed a tube on each side of my feet. Tubes were about 3-4 foot apart with my feet in the middle.
When I used one tube in the beginning, I sat Indian style with the tube in my lap.. I thought maybe that was about as central as I could get.
Now... when I run at night the tube is always at the foot of my bed. It probably don't hurt to move it around though. I did move the tube around more so in the beginning when I was real sick.
Ed, places the tubes near his hips when rifing the prostate cancer.
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Interesting Juli I always assumed you were using the tubes on different places on the body not both on feet. Thanks for sharing
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I've heard the freq travels over 2 miles so I'm sure a foot or two really won't make that much of a difference! My health hasn't slipped none by keeping the tube at the foot of my bed
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Just purchased a Doug Coil Machine. Should have it next week.
Besides Bryan Rosner's book are there any must have books, Nenah Sylver perhaps? I am also on the Dr K cocktail and get a UVB/Ozone IV about 4 times a month.
All the Best, MattH
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Welcome Matt, there are a couple of members on this thread that have passed along some of the info from the book. Perhaps they will post later.
You should also join the FB group to gain more knowledge. Juli posted the link if you scroll up a few clicks.
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I'm a brand new member and these questions may very well have been previously addressed. Sorry, but this is an extremely long thread and perhaps you'll pardon me if they've already been covered.
I have a Global Wellness rife machine bought years before I came down with Lyme last summer. Is it any good for Lyme and co infections? Any favorite frequencies?
The Global rife has been unused for a long time because of strange occurrences after last two sessions (forget now what was targeted). The weird effect was I got 'electric' hair a day or so after both sessions. Hard to describe, it was like it was completely dried out and brittle, and it just didn't seem like this could be a good thing for the rest of my body either.
Anyone heard of such a problem?
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The global wellness will do the job.
I would recommend 612 & 2016 Hz for Lyme. 832 Hz for Bart.
I have not heard of anyone else that has had your experience. I can't even come up with a hypothesis that could explain it.
Let us know how the treatment works. Start slow.
Good luck.
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Concept is the drugs researched and tried have been those that match closest to what's seen in research. Therefore I researched what ivermectin treats on literature and it makes sense to rife for those to get closest to this new bug.
You can run general parasites numbers too Threadworms Roundworms
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Spring thank you for sharing the information. As you probably know the rife thread is more active as ever but all the traffic has gone to the FB page where all information is organized and easier to access.
So posting this for others wondering why the rife thread has slowed down. The link is below.
I tried my EMEM5D for the first time last Friday. 432, 800, 2016 and 4328 for 2 minutes each for Lyme (from numbers that came with the EMEM (the 2016 added from D Bergy post a while back)
No discernable herx or response to those frequencies?
Any thoughts on frequencies to add or should I just increase times?
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I'm back to rifing. Took a break after a vacation, and a move, and then waited to knock the infection down with homeopaths before starting up again.
Interestingly enough, I have tested for the syphilis miasm so one of my homeopaths is a syphilis one. For no reason my intuition would always grab on to syphilis, now I know why.
I've been running Auto Channel 466-the Lyme protocol but am thinking of switching to R/P protocol. Has anyone done both and finds they have a preference?
I also wanted to mention one thing that has helped with the herxes-though it's still early in the game. The last two times I rifed I did it for 30 minutes which is huge for me since I typically couldn't get past the 5 minute mark in one session. My herxes though have been way more tolerable and I think this is due to the fact that I was also doing the ionic footbath as a detox method-one during treatment and once right after treatment.
Hopefully this will continue to help and perhaps make it so I can get my body detoxing better on it's own.
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Lymeswimmer, I am not familiar with your machine but if you join the FB page listed a few clicks above they have documented all the various freq. that have helped people get well. You will find way more help on the FB page as it is extremely active.
Atta, I as well as others run single frequencies everyday and run the R/P sweep 3 days a week or every other day. You should check out the FB page also as all the traffic has moved over there. You can find some individual freq. for various co infections that many have had success with.
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Spring, thanks so much for the freqs!
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Cotton, you can make a fake profile to join FB. After all the news lately about the NSA, I'm at a point that nothing is confidential anymore.
It would be nice if Lymenet could upgrade this site so that various groups could get together and post important items permanently so that people don't have to read through 60 pages to learn everything.
It's just really hard for every new person that comes to this thread to have to explain everything from square one over and over.
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