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ps - that lamprey photo looks photoshop-ed to me... You can see it around the edges - it looks a bit blurry. I'd have to see the original, though. - LOL
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sparkle, are you saying that you need to take charcoal 3 hours away from supplements/meds before and after? That makes it quite a challenge.
Just wondering... is it okay to take the charcoal along with DE? I am so new to all of these binders. Any advice from those of you who know what works would be appreciated.
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Does anyone here post on Lymestrategies or Curezone? If so, would you mind putting out a post asking opinions of which parasite zapper they think is best?
I've heard some people say you must only use Hulda Clark's. But I've heard others say the cheaper ones work just as well.
If anyone is able to do this, thanks so much. If not, no worries.
Thanks.
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dbpei - Yes, it's important to take binders away from supplements or meds. I think 2 hours is good. That's what I go by.
I would not take charcoal at the same time as DE. Alternating is a good idea.
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It absorbs everything so it's not something one would want to take all the time. I don't think it would be bad to mix it with other binders like psylium or clay. Just be aware that it can effect other herbs or meds.
Also - people on the salt/C protocol may want to add extra probiotics...
Via my own dowsing - some herbs or drugs linger in the body & are effective for quite a while. The effects may be cumulative. I ended up spacing out the binders for a day or two in some cases. Just my own observation.
Sometimes, it's good to let the active herbs or drugs work in the body to kill stuff & not take the binders too soon. In those cases, you can always do a plain water enema if needed.
Each case is individual.
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Thanks Sparkle and Tammy. My LLNP wants me to take charcoal daily to help with detoxing but perhaps I will alternate with DE, which I think also helps with that.
I know someone personally from a local support group who I believe uses the Hulda Clark zapper. I will try to find out what I can.
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Catgirl, at one point you were taking low doses of Salt C throughout the day. It sounds like you decided to stop. Do you think this was easier to do before you resumed ABX? Are you still treating parasites now? Just curious.
Thanks for that website. So it looks like CDC recognizes parasites as a problem for some!
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Question for those using the coffee enemas. I have been using S.A. Wilson special coffee. It is designed specifically for enemas, a different blend of beans, and very gently roasted.
Anyway, I'm running out and will want to do more enemas before I get more. Any suggestions for what would be available locally, perhaps in a health food store. I imagine organic would be important. Anything else, should it be roasted or not roasted, certain type of coffee, ...?
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Dbpei, I had a problem doing salt/c and biltricide, so I stopped. My doc thought the salt/c would be too hard on my body along with the parasite meds. I haven't tried it with the abx though.
I felt good on doxy and ivermectin, but when I moved to alinia, I couldn't take it. This was the third time I've tried alinia over the past six months. The other two times were great. This time, no. I think the doxy made it worse.
I am currently just on doxy and malarone, but I'm going to start up with a low dose of salt c today. I miss it and love how mildly it worked for me.
Michael, I just use organic coffee. I get mine from whole foods, but I think any good organic coffee would be fine. I'm not sure about roasted or not roasted. The one I use is roasted.
Tammy knows a lot about coffee enemas. Hopefully, she will see this and post some ideas.
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Thanks dbpei - I appreciate you inquiring for me.
Michael - From Dr. K's office I wasn't given any other specific advice about coffee....just that it needs to be organic and not decaf. So I've been buying the organic one from Whole Foods, 365 Brand.
I don't know if the coffee you have been using is any better. I might give it a try at some point. For now, I'm happy with the one I've been using.
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Thanks. I'll just get some organic roasted coffee at a local store if I run out, which appears very likely at this point. I'm using more and more, I think my liver needs lots of support for all this parasite killing and removal. Guess I'll be posting a comparison of the S.A.Wilsons versus more standard coffee, we'll see if my body or my pendulum notices any difference.
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btw - I was told to use 3 tablespoons (to make 4 cups) in the French press.
What amount do you use?
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Bringing this back up for fredD to review who posted in general support.
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I'm on day 3 of salt c (really happy I can take it with my abx). I feel better! I'm really surprised that it brought me out of a long herx (whodathunkit?). It's killing something (lol)!
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how much salt/C Catgirl? and what kind/how much>
why don't I feel anything from it so far? (Inconsistent and only at 2 grams of each per day?)?
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CD57,
Everyone has different experiences with salt/c at different doses. Also depends what else they are taking. What other protocols are you on? Any antiparasitics? How long have you been at 2 gms?
Catgirl,
glad you are feeling better on salt/c, just don't ramp up too fast. Salt/c can be very effective killing many different pathogens.
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I'm very sensitive. I've always been that way (just needed smaller doses of everything). I just take 1/4tsp of Ester C and 1/4 tsp of sea salt.
I learned from taking Byron White herbs to go super slow (were talking a month before I increased it every so slowly). The people who are successful on Byron White are the ones who go slowly (check out Byron White's website-There's a quote from Doc H on there about going slow).
Maybe hang at the 2 gram mark for a while until you feel better. I did this last year with salt/c. I stayed at 1 gram for several months, but went off of it when I was on parasite meds.
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Thanks Gael!
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i got the salt c book and i dont know how i missed it on here but i thought salt c was for "worms" and babs but now i see it is for Bb too
i have been going thru a lot of ortho/mobility problems unrealaterd to salt c so i have not been very regular with it
but i did find if i eat 1/2 T of coconut oil in 1/2 cup winter squash i see lots of things coming out-way more than when i was was just doing the salt c. in a few days i think i will get back on the full dose (when my appts are over) and with the coconut oil maybe i will see even more
i had been concerned about an als book written last month that said neurol sx in long term lyme meant you needed flagyl or tini
but the books explanation of how salt c gets into Bb in cyst form makes me feel it will work as well as flagyl
glad i have the book....
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I have been on salt/c for three weeks. I am currently doing three grams of each, three times a day. Sometimes 4 times a day.
Haven't really seen anything to amount to much up until today.
I have never had the desire to go 'fishing' in the toilet bowl. I get a flashlight and give it a good looking over.
Early on I saw a few things that were pure white. They looked like white chocolate chips.
Since then, nothing out of the ordinary.
Today while drinking my glasses of water, I became a little bit irritated.
I have purchased the salt twice. Sent the first bottle back. I got the wrong stuff.
I have also purchased the vitamin C twice. Got the wrong stuff. Sent the first batch back.
All this ordering, drinking, trying to remember to take the stuff. Missing a dose and trying to make it up....
And I have seen nothing...until today.
I decided I would take a closer look at the toilet bowl.
I got my flashlight out. Looked really close. Nothing....
I decided to go get a wooden spoon. I have one with a really long handle.
Got my spoon in hand...decided to poke at the thing in the toilet. I gave it a good poke. Nothing.
Gave another harder poke and it broke up.
Shined my flashlight into the toilet and what do I see? Many little wispy things came out. They look just like in the photos that I have seen on the web.
I will now apologize for all of those awful thoughts I had on this subject.
For now I am a believer!!!!!
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Your welcome catgirl.
Ip,
Really glad you got the book and also that you are seeing "things" emerge. Sometimes the salt/c will work even better with another antiparasitic such as coconut oil.
Carolann,
Sooo happy you stuck with it and finally saw results,
I think when you add the Parastroy, it will push a lot more critters out. Thanks so much for posting guys, it's important to help others see that parasites can be a major part of this disease.
Happy hunting!
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I am back on the Salt C and probably going to stay at 1 g twice a day for a while. I had a killer sinus head ache yesterday that was the worst I ever remember having. Feeling pretty lousy but hoping for results over time.
Every now and then, I see something in the toilet that looks like it could be parasites. But never sure... Maybe I have to find an old wooden spoon like Carol. LOL. I hope it doesn't find its way back into the kitchen!
I am a big fan of coconut oil and try to use it as much as possible. Glad you discoverd it lpkayak.
I am thinking of ordering Humaworm or Parastoy. The Hanna Kroeger wormwood complex made me very constipated. Any suggestions?
Do any of you use binders? I am using chlorella and have started charcoal once a day - away from meds. The chlorella, I take a half hour before meals and at bedtime.
I think I am going to stop the DE. On 2 occasions, I found what appeared to be a floating bug in the water I was mixing it with. I ordered the good, food grade stuff recommended in E Book. Just totally creeped me out. I will use it in my gardens instead.
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For "hunting" I bought a few big packs of wooden skewers from Bed Bath and Beyond. That's what I use every day.
For those who want further tips, here's what I do....
First, if you have a choice of toilets in your house...use an elongated one. The smaller ones just make our BMs sink to the bottom. I then make a bed of toilet paper first before eliminating. This way it sits on top. Then poke around with the skewers. It really lets you see everything you may be passing.
dbpei - Constipation, to me, means you probably need to take in a lot more liquids. Water, broths, coconut water, etc. Maybe even prunes to keep things flowing.
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Tammy, I drink TONS of water and have herbal teas throughout the day. I am off the scale in the amount of fiber I take. (loads of fresh fruits, veggies, high fiber foods) I am not usually constipated - but when I took the Hanna K product, I had that problem. Perplexing!
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Tammy,
That's quite a project you've devised to "catch" the critters. Very innovative. I used to use a large incense holder so I could scoop out obvious critters.
The larger parasites will usually float to the top. Be on the lookout for suspicous looking circles of critters encased in biofilm.
When removed and dried on paper towel, the most interesting parasites would emerge. Some were dark red, about an inch long with flippers. That was six yrs ago when I had a mass exodus for mos and mos.
I decided to turn this into a science project to keep myself from freaking out. It's six yrs later and believe it or not, I still see an occassional very small parasite.
They are VERY good at sticking to the intestinal wall along with their eggs. This is why it's sooooo important to do maintenance and take extra cloves to kill the eggs.
dbpei,
Hanna Kroeger does not come with any cleanse herbals such as cascara sagrada in their formula. probably why you got constipated.
Parastroy comes with Para Rid and Para Sweep to take care of that problem. If you get Humaworm, you also should get their cleanse that they suggest.
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Thanks, Gael. I am going to order the Parastoy, I think.
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Your welcome. I do think Parastroy is stronger and also cheaper than Humaworm. You might also want to order some extra cloves by Hanna Kroeger. You can get both at Vitacost. Extra cloves are also a strong antimicrobal. Google cloves health benefits. Good Luck!
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Gael - thanks for recognizing my high-skilled hidden talent
dbpei - I hear you. Just an additional thought... herbal teas are often diuretic. Maybe that wasn't noticeable before, but with these binding anti-parasitic herbs, maybe your body is feeling the effects more now?? Not sure, just guessing....
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Wow, just reading your post Gael. I took Humaworm last year and developed uti symptoms after a week and stopped. It also made me really constipated. You mentioned a cleanse with the Humaworm. I never did this (must have missed it). That's probably why I got so constipated.
I go everyday, but my stools are hard no matter how much water I take in. They do soften a tiny bit with more fats, but I am fat/oil sensitive (protomyxzoa). I tried coffee enemas, but the constipation (hard stool) comes right back. My LLND says sometimes the parasites bind in the body and don't want to let go. I also just did some parasite meds (nothing came out). It sounds like I need a cleanse. Any suggestions?
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Forgot to mention, I also found this (another man's story on Humaworm). I get gall bladder pain. I had an ultrasound and nothing showed up. I'm suspecting liver flukes. I took what looked like a piece of one into my doc. He thought it looked like part of one too. The lab showed negative tho.
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I've only been on Paragen for the last week or so and the last 3 days my gut feels much calmer (no more constipation and less diarrhea) but I'm no longer seeing roundworms exit.
Wondering, do I continue to give my gut a rest from extra anti-parasitics (I'm planning on adding back in Humaworm eventually) or am I losing ground on the roundworm infection despite continuing to treat other parasitic infections with Paragen?
Paragen is made from Hedgeapple and I just cannot find much on the medicinal uses of Hedgeapple online- But I know it's working for the more microscopic infections because I'm feeling slightly better and my gut is settling.
Also, weirdly I have started craving tons of garlic. Had a small herx from it, but mostly feel energized after eating it! I just read that garlic is a "pre-biotic" (helps probiotic absorption in the gut), anti-parasitic, and antibacterial. Anyone else crave garlic while treating parasites?
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Guess my body is telling me what I'm ready to do by the cravings! That's awesome!
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I wish I could take garlic regularly. Unfortunately, I have problems with the sulfur (methylation issues).
You may want to try the Nexus artemisinin/garlic suppositories. Very effective!
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catgirl,
It may be time to increase your salt/c. Staying on 1/4tsp for an extended period may not be nearly enough.
Maybe try increasing 1/4tsp at a time. You can also do a vitamin C flush to get things moving. Google vitamin C flush. Have you done any enemas? coffee or warm water?
Gael
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Thanks Gael. Yes, I have done coffee and warm water enemas. I'm good for the day, but that's it. I will google vitamin c flush.
I think you're right about upping the salt (my lyme brain didn't even think of it--lol!).
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So, this is day 4 of feeling better than I was and I must say I am elated. Garlic is giving me results as of last night with roundworms- they are exiting again!
And I just had the energy to play in the snow with the neighbor girls for 30 minutes and I still feel good.
I am knocking on wood here but focusing on healing my gut is definitely paying off. I know I have a really long way to go, but even if I only get these few good days before my health takes another turn I am so grateful. Posts: 428 | From Midwest | Registered: Dec 2012
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daynise,
So nice to hear you had a good day and are feeling better. Keep those suckers exiting and stay focused on getting them out.
Just because you didn't see them for a bit doesn't mean they are not there. Keep it up so you can get your life and health back! Keep us posted.
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Right on Daynise! Very cool about the garlic!
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Yeah, I am totally and absolutely dedicated to treating parasites for the rest of my life if I need to!
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My husband added 1/4 teaspoon salt to his vitamin c this morning and again at lunch time.
He felt rather bloated this afternoon.... Did he do too much salt too soon?
He is taking 1 teaspoon of vitamin c 3 times a day regularly.
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MammaMe, The protocol for salt/c calls for equal amounts of salt to C. Starting with a 1/4tsp each per day for a few days is advised as opposed to going too fast.
The vitamin C can be bloating as well. Hope he is doing a good brand of sea salt and buffered C and drinking enough water to circulate the salt/c.
If you are going to do this protocol it would be a good idea to order the book either from Amazon or the e-book from lymestrategies for guidance.
Gael
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He's using Celtic sea salt - the gray kind.
The vitamin c is buffered. At one point he was taking 20,000 mgs of vitamin c per day with no adverse effects. Its more like 10 - 15,000 per day now. C is beneficial for adrenals which is why he was doing so much.
He is drinking plenty of water - he aims for a gallon per day.... gets at least two quarts per day.
So we'll keep the salt to 1/4 teas for awhile before adding more.
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FULL MOON ALERT.....Monday Feb 25th!! Drink milk, eat cheese to keep parasites in the gut and then hit them with whatever antiparasitics you are taking! They love diary.
This is when they procreate! Take extra cloves and a little extra salt/c if that's what you're on.
Gael
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Thanks for the advice, Gael! Maybe that is why I have been feeling so on edge and annoyed by all the buzzing in my head lately.
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Hi K,
First off, parasites can cause allergys and are on the symptom list. The herbs for parasites may be different then the ones you took. Treating parasites even with pharma drugs can be uncomfortable.
Parasites cause pain and inflammation. If you don't want to try and herbals cleanse such as Humaworm or Parastroy, you can start with the salt/c protocol.
If you do decide to do that, it's best to order the salt/c e-book from lymestrategies or order the one from Amazon which I inderstand is even better.
Gael
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Has anyone tried just using humaworm around the full moon? I wonder if it would do anything. I was doing salt C but it was messing with my abx (doxy), so I had to go off of it.
Gael, do you think a tiny bit of cloves, wormwood and black walnut hull would work?
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Catgirl,
Don't see any reason why those herbs wouldn't be effective since they attack parasites. How does the salt/c mess with the doxy? If it is just the vitamin c that interferes, maybe you can just do the salt.
Gael
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I guess it's the Esther C (calcium). I think it makes it weaker because when I'm on it I get joint pain. If I don't do the salt/c, no issues.
Would the salt alone be too acidic though? I thought there was something to mixing the salt with the c (can't remember).
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Does anyone know the best options for salt and vitamin C at Vitacost? I have the book but they give plenty of options.....
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droid,
I like Real Salt )sea salt) I order the fine 26oz size. I also buy Ester C powder with bioflavinoids by American Health. Both from vitacost.
Catgirl,
Just wondering if the salt/c is attacking parasites in the joints and that's why you are experiencing joint pain? I had tiny parasites (scab first) exiit from my wrist joints.
Maybe google doxy interaction with vitamin C and see if there is any problems. The protocol is best when done together, but sea salt is still antimicrobal and antiparasitic by itself.
The Vitamin C boosts the immune system. I would try and stay on the salt/c if possible because it's very valuable in killing bb as well.
Gael
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Thanks Gael. I know, I really don't want to split it up (salt/c).
I also get joint pain after taking binders. I haven't been in tune with my body so much in the past, but I'm noticing this now (it takes a while to figure this stuff out).
I think the binders are pulling the meds out of my body quicker, so even when I take them 3 hours away from meds, my pain starts to come back. The same thing with salt/c.
I know calcium is a no no with doxy, and the Esther C has it. I think it binds with the drug and makes it weak. Maybe I just need a larger dose so more will be in my system (on a small dose of abx). I'm going to try upping it.
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Biocidin does not have all the necessary herbs. Needs wormwood, black walnut hull, and cloves for it to be effective totally against parasites.
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Thanks Gael. My 3 yr old son is starting Biocidin. ART testing didn't show parasites, but I was hoping that supp would cover it just in case.
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Catgirl,
As sparkle pointed out in her above thread, binders can have an accumaltive effect and linger in the body.
Perhaps spacing out the binders every two days would give the meds or herbs a chance to do their job and not be absorbed by the binders rendering them ineffective.
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lax mom - my son is on biocidin as well and I'm not sure which infection our practitioner wanted to target with it. Do you know what your son is taking it for? I read somewhere it is used for PANDAS by some docs.
Thanks, tickbattler
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Has anybody, while on salt/c, passed anything that resembles coffee grains?
Whatever those grainy things are, I am loaded with them. I have looked on different websites and cannot find anything that looks like those.
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I read earlier in the thread Feb 25th was a full moon. Can someone explain what happens around a full moon from personal experience? Do symptoms worsen during or before the full moon? What about the day after? How many days before?
My son had a really bad day yesterday and I believe parasites are his worst infection. He is currently on salt/C and Caprasite, which hits ascaris and his other worm infections. He seems a bit better today. Is that just coincidence? Do you notice a big difference in just one day or is it gradual as you get farther away from the full moon?
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tick battler: my son's practitioner only said it was "antimicrobial". From the ingredient list it looks like it covers a lot.
Does anybody know a good, gentle binder for little kids that can easily be hidden in food like applesauce?
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Thanks Gael. It's worth a shot. :)
Tick battler, symptoms worsen for me about 5 days before the full moon. The worst days for me are the one or two days before it, sometimes the day of, and then they start subsiding quickly afterwards.
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Lax, not sure if this would help or if you can taste it but maybe a little bit of some mucilax or psyllium?
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laxmom, we use D.E. and twinlabs apple pectin. Benontie clay works for two of my kids; the other gets too constipated on it. He uses IMD by quicksilver scientific.
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quote:Originally posted by carolann2013: Has anybody, while on salt/c, passed anything that resembles coffee grains?
Lately I've been seeing some of these (in addition to the roundworm-type strands). I am doing the Rx meds plus I take cloves, plus right now I'm on tindamax.
People have mentioned seeing something like "seeds" but I haven't, except for a few that most likely are just from my diet. However these tiny dark grains are something new, so perhaps they are seeds of a different variety?
I hope so, I'd sure like to be killing off all stages of these things!!!
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Carolann, I wouldn't be surprised if they are parasites (coffee grain like things).
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They look like black sesame seeds. I mean there were thousands of them. I know it wasn't anything I had eaten.
Someone asked me if it could be a kidney infection. About a month ago, I was tested and my kidneys were fine.
I have to believe they are parasites. I just can't imagine what else they could be.
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We did just have a full moon. That's when the parasites breed (yuck). Maybe those were eggs!
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carolann, are you doing better on Parastroy? How's your swelling?
It's good if you are shedding the eggs- that's how it started with me...then a couple days later, started seeing the adults and have seen them most days since. Shudder!
It sure is shocking when you realize you've got these things inside you! But good that they are exiting- now you might start feeling better!
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This is my fourth day of no salt/c. I thought my Parastroy would come in yesterday, maybe it will today.
I was already feeling pretty good. As I said, this is the fourth day without the salt/c and I can tell it.
Up until last night, I was still 'seeing' things. I have only seen one that was a shocker. I kind of quit searching so hard. Now, I just get a flashlight and look that way.
You couldn't miss seeing all those little black thingys.
I am getting sluggish again. I was chipper for about a week, felt really good, Now it is a bummer again!
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I wanted to share about two herbal parasite cleanses that have helped us. Caprasite by Mt. Capra and Paracleanse - don't have the manufacturer name handy. Our EDS practitioner has tested many formulas and these tested best for hitting the largest number of different types of worms.
My son is herxing like crazy on the Caprasite.
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