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Jazzman
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Phoiph, yes, I did see you having to repeat yourself over the thread numerous times, and while a pain in the the behind for you, I am sure it has been tremendously helpful for people, with mush for brains, as I and many others have had at times, who just can't manage to get through the whole thread. Also, I just wanted to say that the patience you showed at the beginning of this thread was for me noteworthy. Without your even keeled temperament this thread could have gone off the rails and ended years ago, which would have been a real shame, and a loss for us all.

Kaibyrd, have you ever tried melatonin to help with your sleep issues? For me, I can narrow down the supplements that have been truly helpful for me down to a small handful and melatonin is one of them. I should mention that many companies make it in a 10mg pill dose and if you do some reading you will find that this may end up causing issues, as this dose is high one for many people. I use a sublingual spray that doses at 1mg per spritz/spray, I use 3mg when needed, but you could start at 1mg and go from there. There are a few makes on Amazon to choose from, if you find it is not available at your local health food store.

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Hi Jazzman,
Yes, I’ve used melatonin. Never more than 3 mg. Those 10 mg pills are way overkill. I don’t use it much any more because the liquid form I take at 1mg can be too much if used every night. I’m actually sleeping better now than before mHBOT so I’m only taking my magnesium, progesterone (bio-identical) and ashwagandha before bed. Some nights I have trouble falling asleep but it’s not too bad. Some days I have trouble waking up but I just figure my body is repairing and needs the extra sleep for now.

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Hi Jazzman,
Yes, I’ve used melatonin. Never more than 3 mg. Those 10 mg pills are way overkill. I don’t use it much any more because the liquid form I take at 1mg can be too much if used every night. I’m actually sleeping better now than before mHBOT so I’m only taking my magnesium, progesterone (bio-identical) and ashwagandha before bed. Some nights I have trouble falling asleep but it’s not too bad. Some days I have trouble waking up but I just figure my body is repairing and needs the extra sleep for now.

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Hi Kaibyrd,

Good to hear that you have a good handle on melatonin and that you are managing with your sleep.

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Today makes one year since I’ve started daily one hour mhbot, missed only a few days with a Newtowne 27 inch with the 10LPM oxygen concentrator. Some health history: First symptoms in Feb., 1997. After 15+ doctors diagnosis in 2008. Multiple different antibiotic combos with Mepron/Azithromycin most promising/harsh. That fails to get it all and leaves me magnesium deficient, with leaky gut, and poor gut flora. Switch to herbs, sauna, other alternative methods. Still getting worse, forced to quit work, and self diagnose Heriditary Hemochromatosis (iron overload) from a wellness test and 23andme data. By this time it took 34 pints of blood drawn over 1.5 years to lower stored iron back to normal. Unfortunately some permanent tissue damage with iron storage occurred around eyes/sinus. In 2001, pre-lyme diagnosis, I had an MRI with Gadolinium contrast. Much/most of the contrast did not leave my body in 24 hours as promised and is still there today. Effective Gadolinium chelation strategies are unknown at the moment as well as impact on health. One article cites mitochondrial damage from retained gadolinium.

If I can offer constructive feedback – If you have heavy metal issues you should proceed cautiously or not at all with oxidative therapies until the metals are chelated. If you have iron overload (HH) then you likely monitor Transfer Saturation and other iron metrics. If your iron isn’t under control via therapudic phlebotomies then don’t risk “rusting” yourself. I unknowingly let TS get to 80% while using the chamber – don’t kill your brain. Fortunaly, statistically(1 in ~200) hardly anyone reading this thread will have HH but be forewarned if so.

In general after one year – some things better, some worse. After 10 months with the chamber it seemed I was making some progress with tendons (probably borrelia), skin was clearer (no more Bart? bleeders and maybe some pre-cancerous areas improved, and prostate was improved – soreness mostly gone. However, my air hunger was getting much worse though so I decided to pulse Atemisinin to try and address that. Past experience though – Artemisinin alone is not enough against Babesia. This was concerning since in some circles HBOT is contradicted for Babesia. I tried full on Keto but ended up with acid reflux so backed off that. Also apparently from a genetics guy I have some snp that affects fat processing. You know how it is – what works for one not necessary for another.

What’s next/questions – My inner most layers of Lyme are the tendons or damn Babesia in my red blood cells. After a year of mhbot I think I’ve made a couple steps forward but this major step back – air hunger, is unprecedented and very scary. Can mhbot overcome mitochondrial damage with Gadolinium retention? I have some lead too and am hopefully, slowly, chelating that. Any others on the thread with known metal issues (MRI with contrast). Thanks everybody for posting! It’s been very encouraging and informative.

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Hey ironmike, thanks for the update. Have you looked into IP-6 for iron chelation? At this point it may help to maintain appropriate levels.

I also have heavy metal toxicity, mainly mercury and lead. Multiple Gadolinium infusions left me with vertigo and tinnitus. I have tolerated mHBOT well over the years but I did have pretty severe air hunger during the first year of diving. I still occasionally have mild air hunger all these years later.

It does make sense to remove the excess iron before doing oxidative therapies. Good luck to you.

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Thanks Digby, this is some more encouragement I was hoping for from you trail blazers [Smile] So many unknowns with Lyme and various health histories. Even with this increased air hunger I've had enough hints of other improvements to keep at it. Hopefully a positive update in a few months.

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Hi ironmike, thanks as well for your update. I, also have episodes of air hunger and they always do pass. They can be a bit disconcerting, but like panic attacks, when I was experiencing them years ago frequently, once you know in your mind to try and relax, and literally not panic too much, they always pass.

I, like many have been on AB, herbs, rife and different supplements to deal with babesia, I am hoping, as per reports here, that mhbot, given time and consistency, will finally deal with my issues with this co-infection.

The information you posted on Gadolinium was eye opening, at least for me. I have been around this stuff for a long time, and was unaware of the potential dangers it posed.

You may be aware of this below, but the Yahoo board seems very active on the subject, there may be some answers for you there on what people have found to be useful in detoxing. Wishing you success.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MRI-Gadolinium-Toxicity/info

https://m.facebook.com/gadoliniumtoxicity/

https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com

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Hello! I've not been very active on LymeNet for several years, although I always recommend it to people who I find out have Lyme. I've been working with an LLMD who uses a lot of ozone and then recently a chiropractor who uses muscle testing and got me on a more strict diet, and I have done the full Keto thing and am now more on a maintain.

But, I've plateaued and have now read the book, "Oxygen Revolution," read much of this thread (still need to complete THAT!), and have decided to do mHBOT, as I do have brain damage from Lyme and heart problems now, possibly also from Lyme.

I got the bulls eye rash in 1998, but wasn't diagnosed with Lyme (and co-infections) until 2005, so I've been at this a LOOOOOOONG time!

I'll be looking for a mHBOT chamber soon, as I catch up on this thread.

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Welcome Cass A! I’ve been struggling nearly as long, 1999 for me.

Question for everyone here, how do I cool down my S2S Grand Dive? My husband and his mother got in it this afternoon after my mother and I had just done an hour dive and they had to come out at about 25 minutes because they were sweating. I have a small styrofoam container that I put ice packs in and ran the hose through but that didn’t help any.

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HI Cass A, welcome to the thread. I am pretty new to this thread as well (my first post is higher up on this page). Sounds like we may have reached the same point with ozone, my copy of "Oxygen Revolution" just arrived and I am going to start my reading of it over the weekend. I am quite hopeful, in time, I will start to feel the full benefits of this therapy take hold. I am on my 53 dive, although as laid out in my earlier posts, I am not at full therapy levels as of yet. I did reach full 1.3 ATA a few weeks back, but am slowly adding in full oxygen, with a Hudson oxygen mask, I am at 16 minutes as of today and things are going smoothly, outside of the first few starting hiccups. If I could offer any advice to you when you get your chamber take your time, low and slow as they say here.

Kaibyrd, when I purchased my Airsoak Nova there was an option of purchasing an air-conditioning/dehumidifier unit. Unlike some other cooling units that use ice, or other cooling methods, the unit I am taking about is a true electric air-conditioner. This is a link to the unit. I am unfamiliar with the hoses on your unit, but mine takes the same hosing as the Oxyhealth series, compressor seems to be the same as well. In any event, I don't think it would be too hard to adapt the unit, with correct connectors, to fit your chamber.

https://airsoak.com/product/chamber-air-cooling-electric-unit/

Also, perhaps a rechargeable fan might help like this one, lots of models to choose from on Amazon. Mounting with self stick Velcro, so the fan can go in and out for recharging.

https://tinyurl.com/y23ezook

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Jazzman, thank you so much!!!

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Kaibyrd

I take various size ice packs in the chamber, with a blanket on me and lay the ice packs on my core and legs. After some experiments the ice packs need to be thick so they stay frozen. I buy the extra large freez pak from Amazon. I also move the concentrator as far away from the chamber as possible as it produces a lot of heat.

Jazzman we have a member in the FB group that is having a terrible time with the customer service at Airsoak and her AC unit doesn’t work. Do you have a good connection to the Rep she might call? She hasn’t even received manuals on how to operate.

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Thanks Peimomma!

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Kaibyrd, no problem, Peimomma I sent you a PM.
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Kaibyrd,

In addition to separating the concentrator and compressor a bit, you can try aiming a fan in that direction to circulate the warm air they generate away (so it isn't sucked up into the units).

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Thanks Phoiph! I do have the concentrator separate from the compressors already. I’ll try the fan.

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Hi all!

I thought I would write an update. First of all, I have great admiration for all of you who have done this for 2+ years! I am finding it requires a lot of patience and there is a huge mental game involved.

I've done 52 1-hour dives with supplemental oxygen. In general, I feel good. Most importantly, my stools are formed. I have added a few vegetables to my diet, which is quite wonderful!

After initially feeling more energized, I am now often more tired and especially after my dives. I think my liver is just overloaded with detox. (I had an annual recently and one of my liver enzymes was elevated). Since my diet is heavy in animal protein and fat (olive oil and cultured organic unsalted butter), I am trying to increase the vegetables and reduce the proteins and fat and give my liver a little break.

I had a bit of a set back last night. I went out to eat with friends at a place I've been to with them before, without incident. I explained my food sensitivities as I always do and ordered my plain hamburger patty. It seems they served me one with spices. I ate it. I shouldn't have. I was up most of the night with a burning gut and feel generally unwell today.

On the plus side, my vision has really improved. One of the tests for mold exposure is a vision test. My vision has remained blurry for these many years. I am grateful and hopeful that the improved vision isn't simply something that is just with diving and not a more permanent improvement.

And so, with the improved vision, I do feel as if mHBOT is helping me detox the mold (I did a urine test in Jan which revealed high levels of 3 mycotoxins). I am guessing, based on listening to your journeys that I need to be patient on the small intestine healing. One day at a time. Two steps forward, sometimes one step back.

Thanks for everyone's shares! I am grateful to be on this journey with you and to learn from your experiences!

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Hi again~

I'm back to ask if anyone else has experienced this small intestine burning? For me, it started post Lyme treatment. 18 months on antibiotics. Within a week of stopping the antibiotics, in the middle of the night, it felt like HOT bile was flowing through my small intestines. I could literally feel it going through the tube.
After that, I developed increasing food sensitivities-and in particular, cannot tolerate any spices, black pepper or garlic (plus FODMAPS, etc).
I am hopeful that mHBOT will heal this, like it heals wounds on the skin. But in the meantime, I am wondering if anyone has used any homeopathy for something like this (or anything else!). Thanks for your thoughts.
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Hi Carbokitty,

I did start a homeopathic remedy when I was using Mhbot but it was a constitutional for many lingering issues. I had great results.

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carbokitty~

One of my first symptoms (before Lyme diagnosis or treatment) was severe burning in stomach/gut.

After that, the food sensitivities began in full swing, and if I ate anything with the slightest spice or acid (e.g., citrus, tomato, etc.), there would be increased pain and vibration in my solar plexus which became chronic and spread throughout my nervous system.

Diet and mHBOT healed this, but it took time and consistency with both. If you go off of the gut-healing diet, it can really set you back, like pulling a scab off of a wound.

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Carbokitty, Phoiph, I as well years ago, before being diagnosed, suffered from severe burning in the stomach and small intestine area. It turned out to be H. pylori, I mention this because I find it interesting that you had a bout days after stopping antibiotics (could have been holding things static, but not clearing). The case I had was a refractory in nature and it took months and two bouts of triple therapy and finally quadruple therapy to clear it. If you think this could be a possibility for you there is a non invasive test called the urea breath test that can diagnose H. pylori infection, mine finally went negative after the third bout of therapy.

Also, my understanding is being on antibiotics for extended periods of time for Lyme will most likely not clear H. pylori, it's a combination of a small list of antibiotics along with PP inhibitor and/or bismuth that is required. Something to think about.

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Hi Jazzman~

I was tested several times for H.Pylori, but results were negative.

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I also have tested negative for H pylori. My burning is definitely in the small intestine and occurs 5-6 hours after eating.
I’ve been positive for SIBO-small intestine bacteria overgrowth, which has caused some nerve damage.
I tested negative in January but know I still have injury to the lining.
I’ll be patient with mHBOT (or at least work on my self-talk-LOL). Just looking for an adjunct therapy to speed things along.
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Carbokitty, I am glad to hear that H.pylori is ruled out for you, I hope in time mhbot will help resolve things with your GI problems. I'm not a big believer in coincidences and when you mentioned your issues started shortly after stopping AB it kinda' caught my attention. Phoiph, I remember the pains where so bad I was certain they were going to tell me I had some kind of tumor growing in there, after imaging ruled this out, I was tested for H.pylori, I remember actually being relived that for once I had a firm diagnosis on something. The treatment did eventually lead to a full resolution of my GI issues.
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Does anyone else experience burning sensations during hbot? I am experiencing burning above the muscle but below the skin mostly in my thighs, calves and hands - do have nerve damage in thee areas. I notice the burning is even worse if a have juice/smoothie and then dive - this makes no sense at all.

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Sorry Tom~so far that is not a symptom I have. I do get burning when I am exposed to mold but its more on my skin or on my tongue.

I wanted to check in. I have just finished my 60th dive. There is a problem with my oxygen concentrator and after troubleshooting with James at ADM where I purchased it, he is replacing it. It apparently is giving me less than 82% oxygen (beeps and the yellow light is on). I have continued to dive under those conditions.

I do feel as if I am cheating, however. After a week+ of abnormal gut symptoms (actually, what was normal for me prior to mHBOT) and disrupted sleep, I added some berberine (goldenseal tincture) and some activated charcoal. I am amazed that these small tweaks made such a huge difference! However, prior to mHBOT, goldenseal and activated charcoal did not make my sleep or my stools "normal" (formed). So for the time being, I am going to continue for a little bit, slowly reducing the berberine.

As an aside (maybe I mentioned this before), I did a hair analysis in January, shortly after starting mHBOT because some in the mold community feel that there is a connection between heavy metals and mold sensitivity. I had no issues with heavy metals, except silver (and so interesting that I had been at my parents condo and eating with actual silverware and not stainless). However, many of my nutritional minerals were low. I am guessing that is because I have been taking activated charcoal on and off for many years because of its ability to bind mold. I have since added back some of the lowest minerals. I do any of this very slowly due to so many sensitivities.

Sorry! Some of this is way off topic! Just wanted to check in. I know my use of mHBOT is a bit different from most of you-however, I feel very connected to this community, having read the whole thread and very grateful for everyone's shares of their journeys and especially for all the help I've received from Phoiph. Thank you!

Have a lovely day,

Carbokitty

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Tomf, are you in the FB group for mild hyperbaric treatment? This has come up for discussion there.

Carbokitty, thanks for checking in! I think it is great that you have found those supplements finally helping. I get it. My young adult son takes things and they do nada. Just one more encouragement for him. Thanks!

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There are many causes of hyperlactatemia and the resulting

lactic acidosis

but the most common is increased production of lactate from anaerobic glycolysis

due to reduced oxygen delivery to tissue cells (tissue hypoxia).

https://acutecaretesting.org/en/articles/l-lactate-and-d-lactate-clinical-significance-of-the-difference


Borrelia burgdorferi contains a L- lactate dehydrogenase gene)

This subpathway is part of the pathway pyruvate fermentation

to lactate, which is itself part of Fermentation.

https://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/B7J121

In comparison, only LDH ( = L-lactate dehydrogenase )
activity was decreased by TUDCA treatment.

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/18945

TUDCA is a bile salt that contains taurine. It is being researched for many diseases.

Available OTC. IMO, might be best with Doxy too. Synergy.

Ultimate goal looks to be to suppress a liver enzyme called CYP7A1 (= cholesterol to bile salts).

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tomf~

I don't have a definitive answer, but a theory based on my experience.

When nerves are damaged (as mine were; I had a lot of numb areas & small fiber neuropathy), the areas can be painful (or do strange things, such as twitch, or vibrate, etc.) when "re-awakened" by 02 under pressure.

My impression is that your nerves are responding to the oxygen, but it will take time for the sensations to normalize.

I'm not sure why you observe it to be worse when you have juice/smoothie beforehand, but it may have something to do with blood sugar levels. Maybe try a small high protein snack before instead to keep your blood sugar levels stable.

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I just did a dive after two years of not doing them.

I've had a rough past two years.

Lots of stress - allergies - jaw clenching - pain etc - which made getting in the chamber again seem impossible.

With the help of a friend I just did a test dive tonight - to see if my right ear would cooperate.

She helped me get in/out and did the zippers.

My goal was to make it to .5 PSI - see how my ears would do.

Once inflated the needle went to 1 PSI quickly - and I quickly dialed it down.

I went up and down between .5 and .8 for about half an hour. My right ear did better than expected.

I am hopeful.

Also concerned - getting in/out by myself is painful. I need ideas /help with this. I'm afraid I'm doing more damage to painful areas pre and post dive.

My shoulders are in bad shape - as well my back.

It feels like I'm pulling muscles doing all things "dive" except for the dive itself.

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Susan~

Getting in and out will get easier.

If you haven't already, you might want to try some very gentle stretching before you get in. You could get a beginning yoga DVD and do it before your session.

I know your chamber is small, but if you roll onto your stomach, then get on all fours before standing when you get out, you might find it easier.

I am so happy you are giving it another try!

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Hi, im about to buy a mhbot unit for lyme but cant really decide which one to buy.
Im struggling between the brands: Summit2Sea, newtown and macy-pan.
i dont really want to buy a used chamber, because i have lots of allergies issues and dont want to risk it. well and also because of warranty.
I hope someone who followed this thread more closely can make a comment about those chambers.
I tried to dig through this thread but 44 pages is really really hard for someone in my condition.

kind regards

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Susan you might try placing your chamber on a bed with the zipper on the side for easy entry and exit up higher off the ground.
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Notthisguy
There are many users of both S2S and NT on the Facebook group with no issues. Macy-Pan is relatively new to the market so I don’t know anyone off the top of my head that has one but I’m certain there’s one in the group. Many have discussed the ease of exchange or repair with whichever company you go with to purchase your chamber.

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Notthisguy, I’m kinda new to Summit to Sea, having just bought mine in November but I really like it. Very easy to use with the gauge on both the inside and outside, no smell when new, light inside from the white material used to make it. The zippers were a bit difficult to use to begin with but now they move very easy.

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Pei - Interesting idea. Thanks.

Trying to envision this. Rolling over into the chamber? What about the frame?

Know of any pics doing it this way?
Anyone? Could be sent to my email address?

So the window would be facing to the side?

I'm so tiny the Solace is fine size-wise.

When I did my test dive at a wellness place - it was a Vitaeris. IIRC on a platform with steps to walk up and use to step into it.
Of course the gal there helped me - IIRC held my hand to balance me / did the zippers and everything.

Looking at my chamber now while typing - dunno if possible to roll into it. Thinking about this. Thanks again.

Yes, Phoiph - I'm trying again.
My ears did better than expected - the rest of me - worse than expected.

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IGG 41,58 IND: 39
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maybe some of you can help me finding a decision which brand to buy.
I'm wondering if anyone here has a summit to sea mhbot and could give me a quick review about their chambers. Do they gas off? How is the quality? Did you have any problems with it? etc.

Thank you very much in advance.

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I'd like to do a follow up on my post about clear PVC Hudson Masks.

I did reach out to Dr. Rhea's clinic in Texas, as Phoiph suggested. I bought one of their metal masks, and some tygon tubing. I've been using this mask daily for over three weeks now, up to 20 minutes per day. And I'm very happy to say that, things have been going much better.

The metal mask is never going to be as comfortable as a PVC flexible Hudson Mask, but at least I can use it without getting the hibbie jibbies after ten minutes (!)

If you are chemically sensitive, just go ahead and order a metal mask from Dr. Rhea's clinic. That would be my recommendation.

Now, onward to the next step. The chamber.

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Ellsworth I think people have done this to make it easier to get into for some.

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Thank you Kaibyrd.

I deleted the original post, after I read the manual. It says you can put it on a bed without the frame in the manual. (Hey, men don't read instructions.)

My original question was can you put a Newtowne C4-34 on a bed without the external frame ?

The answer is, yes. But it would need to be a big bed. And you have to make provisions for not rolling off the bed when at pressure.

After doing my test inflation... the bed looks like it's outta here.

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Hi Summit to Sea users...can you chime in to help notthisguy?

He could use some feedback on your experience with this manufacturer.

He is limited with his purchase options, as he is in Germany, and has to consider where to send a chamber in if it needs future repairs, etc.

Sending a chamber back to the states for repair would be cost-prohibitive, and the Summit to Sea factory is in France.

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Phoiph, my reply is above.

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Thank you, Kaibyrd...
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You’re welcome Phoiph. 😊

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Hi,
im wondering if anyone needed 1.5 ATA instead of 1.3 to get some symptome relief?
Since there are also 1.5 ATA chambers out there I always think maybe I just should pay extra to be on the safe side.

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notthisguy,

As you may know, in the US, FDA regulations require home chambers to go no higher than 1.3 ATA.

I became well using 1.3 ATA, as have the majority of people I know.

I have heard of a few people who have modified their chambers, but this will void the warranty and prevent future repairs if necessary.

Things may be different in Germany, but I would research it carefully, and consider whether the extra cost is really warranted.

Many people with chronic illness will need to work up to 1.3 ATA gradually, and find the effects very powerful and effective at that dosage (if they are patient). A higher pressure doesn't guarantee a faster recovery, and would be too much for many.

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germany doesnt care about FDA and doesnt regulate hbot.
we can even buy homechambers with 2.0 ATA (not that I would do it because of fire hazard, but it would be legal)
so the question really is just about if anyone found 1.3 ATA to be not sufficient but did well with 1.5 ATA (or even higher)

I'm pretty sure I will be one of the people who need to work up to 1.3 ATA since im very sensitive to everything (foods, supplements, medication.) But working up to something doesnt automatically exclude that higher pressures cant be worked up to and be more beneficial (if that makes sense?)


Also on another note:
how many people found that mhbot helped them with MCAS?
Because this is my biggest problem right now out of all my symptoms. I can only tolerate 3 different foods without having an anaphylatic shock.....

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Notthisguy, I started with a big chamber at pressures around 2 -2.6 ATA. I did 20 sessions and didn't see any improvement, just felt worse (not a herx as far as I could tell). The mild chamber at 1.3 got me from home bound/dysfunctional to hiking and biking. I still have problems but I've been sick since 1974, so there is probably damage to my immune and nervous system. From my perspective I wouldn't go above 1.5 and for me 1.3 worked fine.
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Just wanted to update.

2 weeks ago I had to have a tooth pulled. Last tooth on bottom right. I swelled up big time and had to go on antibiotics, Z-pac 5 day.

The swelling has almost gone away now and I thought the pain was nearly gone as well but Sunday night it started coming back. There’s no new swelling and everything looks like it’s healing well, there’s just pain. I’m not taking much ibuprofen now but I still need one 200mg 2-3 times a day.

Sometimes it feels like I may be having a reaction to the numbing shots I was given when the tooth was extracted. I get itching on the edges of where the numbing stopped and I still have a sore lump in the bend of the jaw where they like to give the injection most for those back teeth. Also, I asked for the shots without epinephrine because my heart races bad when given the shots that contain it.

I feel as if I’m starting over with hbot. Like I did a month in (in February) and I was so wiped out I couldn’t do anything at all. Does anyone have experience with dental issues early in their hbot treatment?

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