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Troy, the list-owner of 'lymetopics' Yahoo egroup and Connie Strasheim, the author of a book about Lyme Disease, are both in Germany for treatment right now.
Have not posted or been on LymeNet much for a few months. Felt too sick and was preparing for my cold trip to Germany. Dr. W's treatment plan was a Turning Point for me.
Treatment Is Working! I've only been back 6 weeks.
First treatment was February 2 - last was February 16th . Was tested a few days later - ``cleared'' borrelia. Stayed until March 1st so travel partner could complete further treatments.
Fry Laboratory test results said I did not have co-infections. Not so sure about that now. Some other testing says otherwise. I should have gotten a second opinion prior to the trip to Germany. It is best to be prepared and purchase nosodes while there w/Dr W's assistance.
Many symptoms have peeled away... Last year at this time: Heavy tingling head-toe, eye & ear sensitivity (esp. hearing), MCS, EMF sensitivity in chest & head, squamous hyperplasia-vaginal, chronic candida, new allergies, parasites, crazy anxiety, tremors all over, eye palsy, twitching in brain-eyes-eyebrow area, parathyroid tumor and had 1/2 thyroid removed, low BP & body temp., thick blood, felt inflammation in joints, felt like intestines tingled - noisy digestion, lungs burned & cough, arms went numb at night, lymph gland clogged, cold sensation down outside of right leg, and more.
Today: Head buzzes and ears ring. Candida continues, but Allison/AlliMax is helping the pain. Headaches 24/7, but this is probably from the buzzing and toxins.
Treating: No Bb treatments sense returning Stateside. Used blood for two treatments and Candida nosodes for one treatment to-date.
SCIO Testing: Loud Head buzzing = Herpes Zoster - Nosodes for this soon. Other ?? things were mentioned, but the therapist did not want me to focus on them right now. Only the H. Zoster. More on my SCIO therapy session later and under a sep. heading. Did learn my B12 & Boron are too high.
Probiotic: Theralac seems to help. When funds allow, I hope to purchase the Yogurt maker Scott recommends -see BetterHealthGuy's website.
Detox: Zeolite + Heel Detox Kit
Supplements: I brought many with me to discuss w/Dr. W. After 1st session decided to leave them in the room and did not take any until...just a couple this week.
KleinHaus was best place to stay. EMF's became more noticeable after Bionic treatments, but they are now a little better. I used to unplug the TV in my room when in Germany. After using meter here at home to test, that was not necessary except for the slight humm my sensitive ears picked up. The Klein's go out-of-their-way to help people. It was unlike another other place I've stayed at while traveling.
Dr. W's office - He and his staff were more kind and friendly than any other US doctor's office I have been to. Once, while waiting for travel partner and I felt rather ill, Dr. W placed his hand on the side of my head...the pain on that side left me for a few minutes. Amazing feeling...he is a healer.
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Thanks for the post, Grace! Very exciting!
I, too, was very, extremely sensitive to EMF's at first and it has gotten much better now.
You are right about the Kleins ..... I loved staying there. Hubby and I are talking about a summer trip and he mentioned today wanting to go to Germany because of all my talk about it.
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Has anyone taken a family with children for treatment?
Could it be possible if children who are not chronically taken with lyme and coinfections are treated first for dysregulation with AI or something as effective, they might not need the Bionic treatment? Adult too for that matter?
If the "live nosodes" are key and a child is chronic then it seems they would need to be treated in germany.
When treating for coinfections in germany, are you purchasing "live" nosodes.. or does dr. W have on hand? If not, would that be more helpful if available and treated with or is this just for lyme?
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I know of a family with children who were treated by the bionic in Germany very successfully. I can't give out names without permission, of course.
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I recently heard of two children from two different families who were helped by the treatment in Germany.
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Hello, beautiful Lady! My Mom and Dad say 'hello' too...
quote:Originally posted by GraceT: Once, while waiting for travel partner and I felt rather ill, Dr. W placed his hand on the side of my head...the pain on that side left me for a few minutes. Amazing feeling...he is a healer.
I had a similar experience with Dr. W. HE TRULY IS A HEALER.
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Glad to hear about your healing GraceT!!!
It's very good news.
Robin - I could be wrong but I don't think they are "live nosodes"... I just think they are extremely low dilution - maybe even a mother tincture.
I don't think any place in the US sells the mother tincture. I looked awhile back. It may also be hard to find in EU.
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Joey I had not eaten there for years and tried it the other day. It was incredible and I can't wait to go back. We have photos of one of the LN forum member's sugar coffee binge. It was not me. They had 4 cups of coffee and used 12 sugar packets and then told me they do not get fatigue. I can't imagine why not? They then confessed they had more coffee later that day. Next time we go out to eat I plan to bring a video camera so we can do a proper intervention afterwards.
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Haha I used to work on embarcadero & california, so it was a stone's throw away. Food coma after engorging on turkey for lunch went unappreciated by boss.
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I really don't think the mother tincture is necessary. Yes it may accelerate the healing, but in the end the nosodes are just information. As long as the body receives that information, the light will do what it's supposed to.
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I started eating there when I was just a tiny kid so it seems like home to me.
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This trip to Germany sounds like a no brainer the more people post. Everyone who goes is cured or nearly so. Amazing. I'm not sure why everyone with the resources ins't jumping on board. I still have not yet heard one testiomial not glowingly positive. Interesting. Congrats on the successful trip.
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I think there is still a lot of work to do for those of us that have more CFS-like lyme. more bugs, more metals.. still a long journey ahead for me, but for the first time my doc is giving me a de facto prognosis, saying I may not have to defer going back to school this year. That alone says a lot about how far I've come.
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The sensitivity to EMFs is more severe for me after bionic treatments. Once you take a break, I suspect it'll abate.
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I think folks with amalgams and detox issues might have problems or have had them. At least I think ones with amalgams have. Not sure about ones with detox issues.. since I am one with detox issues (as well as amalams and have been advised not to get amalgams out yet because of that).. has that been an issue? Do the IVs completely take care of that.
Thanks Joey for the info.
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Nana Dubo can tell you what her problems were with getting treated while her amalgams were still in. It is not a good idea even with detox IVs.
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Robin -- I really think detox issues stem from the liver not producing enough glutathione. So doing things to build up glutathione in the body is extremely important.
My initial recommendation is to treat parasites and at the same time doing a liver cleanse. At the same time forget the glutathione iv, i think the glutathione suppositories are more effective and cheaper. shortly after the cleanse start doing coffee enemas or put coffee extracts in with the glutathione suppositories. Coffee from the sigmoid colon to the liver stimulate glutathione production.
Great precursors to creating glutathione in the liver can be gotten by adding whey powder with any juice your drinking in the morning.
Over the course of a few months I've noticed I detox sooooo much better.
Just been my personal experiences of late. Although there is a lot of annecdotal information on the net certifying this as an approach.
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Bob, What glutathione suppositories do you recommend?
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It is a great treatment seek. If you compare it to LLMD visits over a year, it's not a bad price either .... especially since I had to fly to my LLMD visits and spend the night in a hotel.
I recently had some muscle testing done. Borrelia and erlichia are cleared, but I still have babesia and bartonella. I'm taking some herbs right now, but will use the photons again after a break.
I also have a big parasite problem, so I'm going to treat them .... again.
I am feeling bad from the herbs. I was feeling pretty close to normal, but on the herbs I am not, but it is no where near as bad as I used to feel. I know in the past parasite die-off was horrible, so it very well could be that.
Overall, it is a wonderful treatment and I really think it works. I will return to the photons after a break from them. I'm hoping to clear babs and bart with photons ..... probably after getting this stress of the parasites off my system.
For glutathione, I've always used whey protein powder and coffee enemas.
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Bob, you may be right:-) about that. I skipped my IV glut last week and am much worse this week. I'll learn how to make those supposits..
LP: I'm hurting. herxing or I would look it up.. there is a thrad here on making glutathione suppositories by Bob.
So it seems it is important to take breaks from the photons.. any thoughts of using rife in between? Rife or a terminator can get parasites as well, but iffy track record on co-infections, so.. thinking out loud.. any thoughts appreciated.
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Robin -- get some triphala, I believe by itself it works on parasites. I'm battling them, and it seems very effective.
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Yes, breaks from photons are important. I would not use rife in between .... this is my personal opinion. The idea of a break is to let your body have time to adjust and heal. This is the first time I've added herbs during my break. Generally, I felt better during my breaks than during my treatments. I did some extra detoxing and rebuilding of health during the off times, not more killing.
Bob, unfortunately, I bought the single herb instead of the triphala .... but I had quite a reaction to it yesterday and the day before, so I think it is working against the parasites. When I run out of this one, and use the Humaworm that I've ordered, I'll try the triphala. I think constantly badgering these parasites is in order since this is the third time I've treated them.
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Six I saw tripahlia at Whole foods... funny thing is I wasn't even looking for it, I turned around and there it was... Maybe it was looking for me.
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I had a nightmare my supplements chased me into whole foods and were trying to catch me and I had to hide in the lady's restroom -- got a lot of funny looks.
Ok, I'm fibbing, but it sounds pretty funny.
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I hope more people will post on treatment with parasites. I recently treated for cryptostrongylus pulmoni, a nematode researched by Dr. Klaplow that has gained traction in the CFS community, and also treating with super wormwood. Having a pretty big dieoff reaction, but like you six, nothing as bad as before. Actually being able to get out of the house on die-off days is a rather amazing improvement.
However, our bodies are filled with parasites. Even with progurt, there are parasites that aren't in our gut, such as pulmoni which seems to stay in the lungs and sputum. I hope that restoring the good flora will restore immunity over parasites, but in the meantime, I may try to photon the big hitters that show up on my metametrix stool analysis--supposedly the best one for finding hard-to-find parasites.
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Joey, how do you plan on photoning the parasites?
I'm feeling much better today. The first two days on the herbs were horrible. I had terrible stomach pain and diarrhea (sorry about TMI, but we are talking about parasites here). Today I feel pretty good and even made it to the gym.
Haven't tried the Progurt yet ...... but thinking about it.
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I have a vial of crypto pulmoni. I suspect there is no way to do a broad-spectrum photon like vial of spit, vial of blood, urine etc because there are parasites everywhere. I actually don't intend to do any broad spectrum until I'm almost well.
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Six -- no such thing as TMI here. I feel pretty good from using the herb, now about 2 1/2 weeks. And it doesn't matter if you are using triphala or haritaki specifically. so the powder you've got is just fine.
I'm really interested in how you feel using it. Some of these parasites use the dead biofilm in the body. Using specifically the haritaki herb might just bust up there little parties in the biofilm leftover in our body.
I sense it takes anywhere from 2 to 4 months of using the herb. And it probably isn't a bad idea for future maintenance.
Six -- do you take the powder directly in the mouth or do you wimp out and put it in water or juice or something? Just gots to know... I've got a little tidbit to tell you about based on your answer.
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Joey, I've already treated with blood. The first time I used 25% ... then the second time I accidently used 100% instead of 50%, and it was a little rough. I really, really made good progress with the blood. But I STILL test for babs and bart ... and parasites. Dang. Persistent buggers.
Bob, I bought tablets!!! I didn't want to mess with powder.
It does look like a wonderful herb, and the more I read about the triphala, the more I like the concept. I just recommended it to my sister, who seems to have Lyme Disease because she has all the symptoms I had through the years and also has asthma. She won't get treated or even tested right now.
Generally, I can take bad tasting things straight. I can't drink juice unless it's freshly made because of the mold. I do have veggie juice every afternoon, but I'd hate to ruin it with a bad tasting herb.
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The bionic should work on the parasite through a blood sample if it worked on borellia. Remember borellia doesn't just stay in the blood.
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So, why do you think that after treating with blood that I'm still showing two parasites, babs and bart? Just too much to have dealt with at once? Just curious about your thoughts on this .....
I also have treated with babs nosodes and bart nosodes. Maybe I'm just not to that layer of the onion yet.
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LP and Robin -- suggest you make your own suppositories using coconut oil. You need to find a tube a clear plastic one is fine. Get a good unrefined coconut oil is probably best. Go to the hardware store a place you could find a suitable tube with these dimensions to be about 2 inches long and about 5/8 inches in diameter. Cut to the right lengh. Put it in the dishwasher in one cycle to sterilize. The tube needs an air tight stopper on one end that can be removed.
Once you have the tube liquify enough coconut oil and put it in the tube.
Get some glutathione powder, I was using glutathione from Jo Mar labs.
Get 50 grams of the powder, its the cheapest price I've found. If you can find another place cheaper fine.
Put 1/4 teaspoon of the powder into the tube with the coconut oil and stir with a toothpick. Put it in the freezer for about 5 minutes. Pull the stopper end of the tube away and force the suppository out. No further explanation required, I'm guessing.
If you like you can make some coffee (organic) and strain it for grounds and then evaporate into a sludge. You could then put another 1/4 teaspoon of the coffee sludge in with the rest. Another way to get coffee to the liver besides coffee enema. I haven't tried this, just an idea I've had if it helps.
Good luck
If you prefer to pay for it. Here's one that I would recommend for detox.
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Six -- biofilm can be a very strong protector of these darn bugs. Some parasites might do well with near infrared light. It might be because they can live outside the body in the light where many other pathogens can't. And the light might be more successfull when the bugs are inside the cells.
So for those coming back from Dr. W. and getting rid of some pathogens. Other pathogens have to be handled differently. Herbs like those found in triphala, immune enhancers such as whey powder, foods such as garlic, supplements like monolaurin, cholostrum.... You just have to energetically test for them. I think getting to the biofilm is key, when the biofilm and plaque is gone, great.
Six i went to a seminar with creativeguy last night. And the person was giving us a try at a bitter herb concoction. The first person took it with water, and made a nasty grimace. I took mine straight and let it settle in my mouth. I guess i was used to it because of the triphala. I found out I was the first person to ever take it straight.
I find if you can get use to the bitter taste it really get through the blood brain barrier and do good work there as well. After awhile now the taste is initially bitter then extremely sweet. Open up one of those pills and just try it. Have some water handy.
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That's probably true, Bob. I believe I've already seen evidence of the fish roundworms dying off. No wonder I felt bad yesterday.
I have taken whey powder through this whole experience, it's a habit now.
So, you have to take it in your mouth and hold it there to get it through the blood brain barrier?
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I had been experiencing it since using this very interesting herb. The best way to find out is to try it and energetically test what it is doing. But first you have to experience it for yourself for a few weeks. Then let me know what you think.
The practioner I saw last night kind of said it did that. But he uses other herbs, called carrier herbs to get deeper into tissues of the body. I thought the idea of carrier herbs was interesting. I still have to learn more about that.
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What do you mean? What have you been experiencing?
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Should we start a parasite thread or is all good here?
Thanks 6 and Bob.. I think a blood draw tube would do?? I see plenty of those every week.. wonder if I could do a myers in a suppository???? Thinking not, but just in case....
What about filirial worms that get into lymphs???
Will enula, mora take care of that?
You all are saying the triphlala is killing worms and disolving biofilm?
Joey.. the lung worm.. where do you get the nosodes and what alternatives work on this? I will test for it next doc visit.
Lastly.. you all think that the photons with nosodes and or body fluid can cover most everything? There are nosodes for most every thing??
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It feels like I'm clearing something and feeling better from using the herb. I'm breathing better, my intestinal functioning is better, just better in many ways. It seems to help other things work better. What I suggest you to do is take it for a few weeks and let us all know how you felt different from taking it. A way of tracking the difference. I'm curious what you've experienced when you get to that point.
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R62, Dr. W felt that nosodes with blood would cover the other infections. I was too nervous to use blood when babs and bart were so bad, so I bought nosodes for them to use prior to using blood.
I am also taking enula because I know it previously helped me with parasites. I'm taking enula, chebula, resveratrol, and andrographis until the stuff I ordered gets in. I do believe I'm seeing parasites, but it's hard to tell and I'm not going to do THAT close of a study.
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I need some ideas for treatment.
Most of you know I had to cancel my Germany trip this month, and am planning to re-schedule.
Since I am now doing the AI drop therapy, and have been off of antibiotics for 4 month, preparing originally for the bionic treatment, what can I do now to keep the neuro lyme at bay?
I am starting to feel odd things in my head, and I sense the bugs are regrouping in number!
I'm a little nervous just doing no treatment for the lyme besides taking some detox and nutrients.
No rife or frequencies can be used with doing the drops...
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Is it okay to take herbs at all with the drops? You could do some Buhner herbs if they are allowed.
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I always go back on the full Cowden protocol when i get stumped & don't know what else to do.
i think it's been quite useful. i don't know if it's a complete cure but it does seem to keep things from getting worse.
Cumanda, enula, & quina are quite strong... I haven't gotten to mora or banderol, yet.
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he said that blood should take care of bugs and allergies when used with photons.
i'm not saying that is the right or wrong answer, but wanted to point out what the doc thinks.
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I didn't go to Germany. I've just been experimenting here. It's interesting that Dr. W said that, though.
I'm not sure I would agree.... just based on my own experimenting here. I think there are things that people are ill with that may go beyond just treating with infrared light.
It's all good but it's not the whole cure from what I have been observing & from what people are posting.
Nothing at all against Dr. W. He seems quite good from what people are saying. From what I have read, Dr. W seems to think people from the US are much more ill than the Europeans he's been treating....
I could be wrong - please correct me if I am.
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