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My daughter has had a major increase in her acne. Interesting that others have posted this.
Not just the regular type, but hive looking, as well as cystic forms, and others are white heads. All large and all on her face, back and chest and arms. This is hard for a teen to emotionally handle.
As I have multiple and severe allergies and going broke after 15 years of trying to treat this stuff, I do have a question.
Who doing thsi treatment has actually seen a decrease in their airborne allergies like dust and pollen?
If I geta few Yesses, I'm ordering this right away!~
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I'm not going to say it's been great yet for airborne allergens - I still feel the the allergy season upon us. It is a long process that takes up to a year or more to complete and I am only at 5 months.
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I was hoping the Progurt (stll waiting for it), AI and some stress reduction (stress Eraser) used daily would work somewhat fast.
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Taken from AI's study that was done in 2005/06, they list all the categories of problems for which people took the drop therapy.
When done to completion - usually within several months depending on age, etc.
Of the 68 total - 47 had no longer any symptoms 18 of the 26 male no longer had any problem 29 of the 42 female no longer had any problem
Of the 68 total - 14 had partial symptoms remaining 10 of the female had had partial symptoms remaining 4 of the male had partial symptoms remaining
Of the 68 total - 7 had no change 3 of the female had no change 4 of the male had no change
This means that in the Hayfever category:
Of the total 68 ---- 69.12% no symptoms left of the total 42 women ---- 69.05% had no symptoms left Of the total 26 male --- 69.23% had no symptoms left
In that study, 5 people of the 6 with wheat allergy, 5 were totally free.
Same study, 6 people with gluten intolerance, 5 were totally cleared and 1 partially.
While the above were treated for these specifics, many other problems/ dysregulations/ errors in the system were improved within the same therapy.
As indicated on their website, AI will send you the study if you ask for it. The study covers many different problem areas, from bad back to shortness of breath, etc. etc.
Take care.
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Among the "asthma" sufferers, as displayed in the same study I mentioned above, there were 37 persons. 28 no longer suffered from asthma after the PSP therapy (drops); 5 still had partial symptoms left, and 4 had no improvement. That is a 75.68% effectiveness of the therapy if done to conclusion, i.e. it is continued until no errors or dysregulations are found in the DNA or symptoms are gone.
It is an amazing therapy if you stick with it. Young people manage to sail through it very quickly. Our son at 40 has great benefits. For us older folk, who had many years to brush things under the rug or get treatments and manmade medicines the body did not know what to do with thus burdening the system even more, it will take longer. Wheat/gluten/gliadin intolerance and the thousands of chemicals are among the worst offenders if the body does not recognize them for what they are. Good food or toxins.
Correcting the polarities is all it is, so that the body is able to work with the correct "information".
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I just sent in my latest sample from round two,some of you may have remembered how much the first round made me feel so weak but after doing the latest , two/ I have been feeling pretty darn good. I think I have more energy and maybe even a little more strenth. I just hope this feeling last and its not a false alarm.
Just curious, I have read alot resently about the acne kicking in, wich round is it most preavalant?
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Acne increased during round two for my daughter...she has had an acne problem prior to the drops. With the drops it got more severe. Almost likeher body was tryng to release toxins.
No acne for me yet. Although it has never been a problem for me, even in my teen years.
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Our largest organ for elimination is the skin. Make sure all other organs get all the assist to flush out. Not plain water, because it runs straight through. But juices, mushes, soups, apple sauce. The three compartments of the gut require different consistencies to clear.
Skin problems relate to the 60,000 chemicals that are in our world these days, and it will take more rounds to correct the dysregulations toward these chemical groups in order for the body to be able to recognize and eliminate them slowly. We are on #5 and still show chemical blockages. No skin or acne problem, but all other organs working extremely well.
I always test for glycine during the chemical releases, sometimes charcoal, lots of pectin in the fruit mushes (melons, apples, pears, or veggie mushes). I cook a lot of soups/bone broths, etc. All that helps.
Fungi/mold problems were all corrected in the first round of drops and the body starts to deal with it.
Have patience. It didn't happen overnight and it is not going to be fixed overnight.
When the body can regulate again, all will function again. Picture a string of christmas tree lights. When one bulb stops lighting up, the whole string of lights doesn't work. That is the same dynamic at work in our body. Every round of drops will turn on more lights!
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Anyone have increased joint pain in new areas and inflamation during AI treatment?
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Good to hear that you can feel improvements, Kissis and I hope you continue to gain in strength.
Gigi, it's good to read your posts again and you write so vividly: I like the metaphor of the Christmas tree lights!
Hobo, I remember responding to you some 4 plus years ago, about energetic treatments.
At that time, I was not aware of AI and also the fact that many Lyme patients have many dysregulations/errors programmed into their DNA. Most Lyme patients who have taken th AI test and have told me of their results, have between 30 and 40 errors when tested by AI. Any one of them and certainly that many affect the body's ability to fight any disease or any toxin.
If it does not recognize the toxins or know a good food from a bad one, it cannot get rid of the toxin or accept the good natural foods. It is a bad situation both ways. Sadly many children today are born with these allergies today and because they do not know about AI they are forced to live with a very restricted diet. When you do AI, most people can eat most foods again within a short time, and after the food releavant chemicals have been corrected.
Please go to the AI website and use one of the translating engines to learn more about their method of treatment. I learned from Dr. K. many years ago that if one is allergic to a toxic substance, the body cannot get rid of it because it simply does not recognize them. It also has a problem absorbing some of the good foods/substances that it needs for healthy living. So you can readily see, where that leaves us when it comes to defend against pathogens or any undesirable organism.
The allergies have to be corrected. The body has to learn to regulate again as it was meant to do. That is what AI does.
Before you get into any program, you should certainly research it to your satisfaction. The information available on their website is enormous - just a bit difficult because it is in German and you have to do a little extra work. But you will gain a totally different perspective.
I am convinced that it will open up the detox channels for you -- IF YOU HAVE THE PATIENCE TO STICK WITH THE DROPS for a few months - because you have had the problem for a long time. They test for all infections and will take the proper action. Most the time, infections are long gone and only the memory remains in the DNA.
I myself wish I had known about this treatment a lot earlier, at least before I got into photons or any energetic treatment, and know that we could have avoided a lot of heartache and a small fortune. If you stir the pot by any method and the body does not know what to do with the fallout, it spells trouble. Some people call it herxheimers; I call it mostly redistribution of toxins -- meaning you will find these toxins again down the road holding up your recovery. The longer the stuff has been brushed under the rug, the longer it will take to dig it out from all the different layers in the system. But a lot can happen in a few months --- rather than years!
Read the thread I linked above which I started a while back when I first became aware of AI. The wheat/gluten include literally many other foods because the body responds to frequencies, and the wheat frequencies are involved in everthing from toothpaste to grain-eating-chicken to grain- eating- cows who deliver milk.
On top of that, many of the 60,000 chemicals, many of which we have become allergic to, are involved in all these foods because they are used in the processing of food stuffs and penetrate our environment. Which ones did you last use on your head? So whichever is the culprit, whether you are allergic to wheat or allergic to a chemical, unless all these "errors" coded into the DNA are corrected, becoming healthy again is quite difficult (impossible). Even if you stopped eating.
Please read and learn and share with others what you find.
Take care.
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Gigi I am just wondering about your thoughts now on the Bionic 880 protocol:
"I myself wish I had known about this treatment a lot earlier, at least before I got into photons or any energetic treatment, and know that we could have avoided a lot of heartache and a small fortune."
Are you saying now you think the Bionic 880 treatment was not worth it financially looking back on it and you are having regrets about having spent the money on that treatment for your husband and for purchasing a Bionic 880 to bring home and use?
I am a little confused. I thought the Bionic 880 treatment really helped your husband and he saw many improvements? I thought you posted he was so much better after the treatment in Germany he could stop using his walker and he was then able to once again feed himself, cut up his own food and return to the gym?
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Lymeberry, as I tried to explain in several other posts about AI, when treating with photons while these allergies and dysfunctions are present, many toxins are being mobilized with any die-off. But since the body does not recognize these toxins for what they are, i.e. is allergic to them, the immune system does not step in to clean up. The toxins are then merely shifted from one body compartment to another, often creating other problems. It created major problems for me and for my husband as the weeks went on. Shifting of neurotoxins is not a pleasant experience as most of us know, and often things get worse instead of better. It's not what people call a herxheimer, it is merely a redistribution of toxins. It may happen right away or gradually.
This is why we have made the decision - photons of any kind are not for us right now. The Bionic is packed up and gathering dust in the garage.
Yes, my husband was doing better and circling the house a number of times, which was wonderful; but that was the end of it. From that point on, he went downhill very quickly. I myself, who had been feeling perfectly well before photons, but used it for an old fracture, started to not feel well almost immediately with photons, but tried to ignore it and blame it on stress of travel, etc. As it turned out, I had a few of the worst months of my whole Lyme life after photons. Now, with the AI treatment I am hoping to dig up most the garbage and finally get rid of all of it. So, to answer your question, I do not consider the Bionic 880 program as it is performed and recommended to us safe for people who harbor allergies at the DNA level to so many substances. Try shaking a champagne bottle vigorously without removing the cap! It can be a real mess.
Hobo, we started AI in January and are now starting bottle #6, this time in an effort to clear over a dozen chemical groups and emotional blockages, as well as addressing nerve functions that were affected, especially for my husband. I am keeping my fingers crossed! Our bodies are working overtime and we are doing nothing else but binders (pectin, glycine, charcoal, etc - I hide them into fruit mousse). The older, the more toxin accumulation and it takes longer. But 15 drops of informed water is easy to swallow! And I am about back to my normal feeling good, but will of course continue until no "errors" are found in my "software" any longer.
And everything happens for a reason - if I hadn't made the acquaintance of the Bionic, I would not have found AI.
Take care.
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Zombie, thanks for reminding me about the foot pads. I used them before A I but after a couple of months they started coming off fairly clean.
I have the gold as well as the aqua ones. The aqua is for metals as well I think, but don't know if they have zeolite in them.
Think I'll give them another try now that A I has facilitated being able to release more toxins.
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GiGi, what do you attribute others success with the Bionic 880 to based on your experience (and husbands)? It seems like for many, it cured nearly all their Lyme issues. Less toxins? Less DNA-level allergies?
That's frightening the Bionic 880 didn't help long-term. I guess more long-term studies may be needed to assess its usefulness for Lyme.
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Seek,
I am all for the Bionic, BUT!! I have read of a few others who are worse off afterward. There is one person who went over last month who is now in a wheelchair.
I've read of others who get worse with antibiotics (this person who went over also was worse with abx, hence the reason to do the Bionic).
But, you are right, some people do REALLY well with it.
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GiGi- It's pretty unbelievable that you were telling people to get a job bagging groceries to afford the Bionic treatments & now you are saying yours is gathering dust...
I guess it's "buyers beware"...
I'm glad I didn't spend my life savings to go to Germany like many were considering.
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I am sure people receive varying benefits from the Bionic 880 treatment and AI drops as with any protocol. Some people are much sicker than others to start with and have different coinfections and viruses. Some people respond better to different treatments. Some people do not follow directions.
I also find it very difficult at times to research how well any one protocol works on this forum by reading some people's posts and their blogs due to lack of full honest disclosure which happens for whatever reason. I am sure there are many reasons for that it just makes it confusing for many off us trying to figure out how the protocols are really working out for patients. Seeing how many of us are looking for answers in order to try and improve our own health it is frustrating.
Some people seem more straight forward then others and some don't post about things that might be helpful to the rest of us for example if they over treated and did not follow Dr. W's instructions.
If they would disclose the good the bad and the ugly and operator and intuitive error it would help the rest of us see a better snapshot of what happened so we could learn from their experience and so we can get an idea if any one protocol might really be helpful to us or not.
I think most of us are on this forum trying to get well and many of us are looking for answers because conventional methods are not doing enough for us.
Commissions, sales and egos and a thing called denial get in the way of us eager readers getting a true snapshot as well. It makes it difficult and frustrating to try and read between the lines about what really went on with a patient and a protocol when certain things are not disclosed yet other things are but maybe not necessarily for the right reason.
If someone is making a commission I have no problem with it unless they don't disclose that fact. Then it muddies the waters because we readers don't know if what they are posting is a sales pitch or fact or where the enthusiasm is really coming from. Receiving commission and not disclosing that fact here is an abuse of power and not fair to those of us sick and looking for answers.
I know some people did go to Germany and came back and did over treat by not following the doctor's instructions yet for whatever reason they did not bother to mention they over treated which makes it difficult for the rest of us to see if the Bionic 880 treatment might be a go match for us or not.
Ocean what happened to the person that is now in a wheelchair? I feel very badly for anyone whose health became worse from any treatment. Are they sure it was caused by the Bionic 880 treatment or could it have been something else? I wish they would let us know what might have caused their health to become worse and I wish them the best.
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Gigi seriously if you want to ever sell your Bionic 880 do please let me know. I still would like to own one but do not have the funds for a brand new machine.
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Lymeberry,
The person in the wheelchair is possibly just herxing badly, I'm not sure. I know that they also got worse on antibiotics too, so it seemed that any type of treatment really hurt them.
I know that this person was also on steriods for a while before Lyme was found to be the real cause. I imagine that that could have something to do with it.
I agree, it makes me feel so badly when someone is trying to get better only to get sicker, doesn't seem fair.
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Seekhelp,
"GiGi, what do you attribute others success with the Bionic 880 to based on your experience (and husbands)? It seems like for many, it cured nearly all their Lyme issues. Less toxins? Less DNA-level allergies?"
I am very pleased if others can report they are now "nearly cured from Lyme issues". I don't know why their success and I can't answer for them.
As I posted weeks ago more than once, if I had to do it over again, I would make certain that I have no DNA dysregulation, no metal/fungi/mold/chemical allergies, no organ blockages, no emotional blockages, etc. If so, I would try to take care of those major problems before attempting anything else; i.e. before resorting to photons and similar mechanisms in an attempt to wipe away chronic infections.
After all, the dysregulations, the errors in the software, are at the root cause of any chronic disease. That we know now.
Take care.
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quote:Originally posted by NanaDubo Zombie, thanks for reminding me about the foot pads. I used them before A I but after a couple of months they started coming off fairly clean.
I have the gold as well as the aqua ones. The aqua is for metals as well I think, but don't know if they have zeolite in them.
Think I'll give them another try now that A I has facilitated being able to release more toxins.
I ordered these zeolite pads from the same site that has the gold ones (Health Marvels). The zeolite ones seem to be a new item.
Mine are in the mail. I'll report again after I've used them a few times.
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As for photons, they seem to have gotten me off antibiotics which was itself a miracle. 7 months now. But it did not resolve all problems, nor do I think it fully resolved even Borrelia.
Symptom-wise, there was not a significant improvement, but again, holding after the stopping of ABX was still quite notable. I continue to use the Bionic 880 but it was not a five treatment cure.
My observation is that photons have been a tool for many people but I don't know of any US people that are saying it was a cure. It seems that most of us that have done it are still on our journey looking for more answers, even though we may have found some of them with the photons.
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It is encouraging the photon treatment did get you off abx. That is no small feat. I am sure many people here would be happy if they could get off abx.
I don't think anyone including Dr. W. believes that the treatment is a 5 treatment cure.
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I agree.. I have yet to hear of anyone that was cured using just the bionic.
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I agree lymeberry. I don't regret doing the photon therapy at all. It has been a big learning experience for me.
I am in agreement with GiGi though that if I could have reversed the order, I might have done AI first and then the photons. The photons do seem to stir things up and for some, they may not be ready for it. It makes sense that you would want your system to recognize metals, chemicals, etc. before stirring the pot.
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I am planning on stirring the pot first. Perhaps AI later. We shall see what happens. I am hoping good things will happen.
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Are you going to do Bionic 880? In Germany? When do you go?
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I have been and will be extremely candid to all on this thread about our experience with the AI therapy, in hope that others are as well.
It is so amazing to me to see some of the recent developments in our lives during the first two treatments.
AI has helped with emotional blockages that we did not even know we had!
Seems like weekly, more become exposed and cleared. Have found the need for my daughter to speak with a therapist as well as a priest so she can feel secure to have a place to share very deep feelings and thoughts that have come out of no where. She is beginning to feel very free she tells me.
She also tells me things that I would never have told my mother...she feels compelled to share with me, although being extremely private normally. This has been very positive.
My daughters acne seems to have settled down slightly to about 1/2 of what it usually is. It was at a height during the chemical regulation.
My eyes became very dry during the chemical phase, and eliminate crusty mucous. This is not the norm for me. I also have more peace in my life and anxiety free during treatment and with prayer.
She still has major problems with her hormone regulation, and are hoping the AI will work on that. If this problem does not get better, we will try the bionic therapy, after the AI is complete.
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Scott,
I am confused. Sometime ago you posted in a thread about your vision that your eyes were the about the only remaining problem you had. Now you say you are no better.
I don't get it.
Not trying to be rude. Trying to understand.
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Forgive me if this has been asked and answered: A friend wants to know if you can take AI drops if you have mercury amalgams.
Thanks. Hiker53
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Gigi did say that was okay hiker.
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Lymeberry, "Gigi did say that was okay hiker".
Not that I remember, unless I was speaking of what others have told me while gathering information/opinions. Taken out of context. Please do not put words in my mouth. I would not make such a blanket statement considering the subject matter.
I would certainly not make any statement whatsoever to the inquiring person.
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I ordered the AI but on a websearch found a message on Joey's Blog calling it a sham. Of cours ethat was posted without a name. ANyone investigate it? Not wild about wasting more $
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I don't take stock in unsubstantiated opinions, esp. when they're utter denunciations (or outright praise). One should always get a "why" before letting yourself be swayed one way or another. I'm not sure if you're the one that PMed me, but I do think you your bang for your buck with this therapy. Just about everyone reporting here has had some kind of significant reaction from these drops of water with information, and it's a one-time fee for however months of it your body needs.
I am certainly in the camp that would've done AI before going into the killing phase in hindsight.
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Well I just started on my third bottle today , around 3 pm. It is almost 10:30 pm and before 3 my face was fine. I now have a face rash on my lower chin.I am certain they are from the drops.So its definitly doing something.
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Well, I already ordered it. I have heard good things too and you guys seem to have Hellzapoppin, so hopefully it will live up to it's hype.
The loan poster sounds like some of the ones who were anti the Biophotons too.
Thanks guys,
Michael
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"Gigi - I'm doing Dr. K's cilantro / chlorella detox, as I'm having 8 amalgams removed. Do you think this might interfere with AI tx?"
We are more than containers for Lyme"
It is well documented that much of the mercury from amalgams has moved into other body compartments. If you have them removed, the mercury will go into circulation, and if you, like many Lymies, are allergic to heavy metals, your immune system will not be able to recognize the metals and therefore not remove them.
So, in my opinion, it is not a good idea to do the removal before you make certain that your body is able to recognize the toxins. If I had to do it over again, I would never do any killing or detoxing therapies without reassuring myself that these errors are not a problem for me. Everyone I know, my friends away from LN, who have taken the test, everyone is allergic to heavy metals which means the body can't get rid of them.
Besides being allergic to metals, they are allergic to most of the major foods and many of the chemical groups. So read about the AI test before you create yourself anoother problem by removing the fillings. Removal does not mean all the mercury is out -- most of the mercury has long wandered off and settled elsewhere. That is the problem with toxic mercury.
Hope this helps, Ping.
Take care.
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I have been catching up on this thread, and am very interested in AI for all of us.
Reading it has raised a lot of "extra" questions for me, with regard to allergies. There are many references here to the benefit AI can have on allergies, including food allergies.
Reading this is like having 2 worlds collide for me, since dealing with the potential for anaphylactic shock is a part of daily life for my family. We are dealing with severe, life-threatening allergies to multiple foods.
So - at the risk of sounding very ill-informed about AI, I have some questions. ( Where better to ask though? )
When speaking of allergies, in this thread, are you referring to IgE or IgG allergies? Basing it on experience? Muscle testing? Any other testing?
Are you speaking of allergies in the sense that there is an IgE response, a histamine reaction? Or more along the lines of food intolerances? Something else?
(I am not questioning the validity of any type of testing or the severity of any type of allergy - only trying to ascertain whether more research into this is warranted on the allergy question for my particular family.)
Has there been any reduction in the incidents of anaphylactic shock due to food allergies, as a result of using AI?
And of course - safety? In individuals with this type of severe allergy, how safe would treatment with AI be?
Obviously, I am not considering throwing away the Epi-Pens and feeding an allergic individual peanuts or any other allergens. But the possibility that there is a chance to lessen the severity of a reaction or lower the number of reactions to unknown "may contains" is intriguing.
Any experience with this? Or links to literature on it?
Thanks, Cactus
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Ping, from here http://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/index.html you click on the orange words "more info" and on the same page again "more info". (You have to click on the orange banner on the home page where it says "English" first.)
I have just gotten off the phone talking with them. I call them a lot because of my husband's situation. As a rule, they say, if a chronic disease has manifested itself for ten years, it takes an average of one year of drops to get through all the different layers of the system to get to the inner core. So that gives you an idea. All I can tell you is that taking some drops of water a day is easy compared to all the other bitter pills.
I learned that we can take all the chelating agents in the world, if you are allergic to any of the metals and have other blockages throughout the system, it is very difficult to get the metals and toxins out, because the body has lost or never had the ability to detect them as toxins. Or in the case of wheat and other food stuffs, simply was reacting in error. If the metals are not detected, usually it also does not respond to all the thousands of chemicals that are everywhere around us, and so we end up collecting chemicals in our body also.
My husband did heavy metal detox under the best physicians, including cilantro, for ten years and never got rid of an appreciable amount or the bulk of the toxins/metals collected over his lifetime. The reason: he was allergic to mercury, lead, copper and nickle at the DNA level which we never knew until we did the AI test. All other energetic testing (I think we had done all of them) do not detect allergies/dysregulations at the DNA level. He also had allergies for many foods, the silent kind that one does not necessarily feel, and that created the leaky gut.
We both also had error/dysregulations that caused the body not to recognize many chemicals and worst, it was not responding to fungi/mold/penicillins.
I think you would be wise to at least do the test and see if there are underlying problems for you that holds back your healing. The AI test is a lot less than other genetic testing that offer no solution to the problems they find. We have done these tests also and that did not bring us one step forward.
It's the terrain that needs fixing in order for the microorganisms not to be happy there.
Hope this helps - take care.
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Cactus, I know a lot of the answers, but not firm enough to post them here.
If you have such problems, it would probably help you to start reading by googling or subscribing to Babelfish translations to get a better understanding of the AI therapy from their website. The website is so extensive if you go through all the links, you will be reading and learning everything that is involved in the therapy, even the method of testing and making of drops is explained.
Why the testing method is totally different from any other allergy testing is also explained. Allergens are not involved - because if the body has regulation problems, allergens do not exist.
I wish the people spoke English, but they don't - not beyond reading some English text, but answering is difficult. Trying some of the translating engines is probably best to give you a better picture.
Take care.
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Everyone, can someone please remind me the address and method to send your blood in for testing with AI? I'm considering it.
Do you send the blood sample and ask them to send you a Paypal invoice or do you need to pay first?
Any info is appreciated. Their Paypal section on their website is down.
Please PM me if you'd like with the info.
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Seekhelp, you can send a few (2-3) drops of saliva on a piece of tissue, wrapped flat in a small piece of foil, seal it in a small baggie, to them. It is not necessary to send blood - saliva will do the same.
Via Air Mail Allergie Immun In den Hahndornen 16 D-67273 Bobenheim am Berg Germany
give them a brief list of your symptoms and put it in a regular letter size envelope with 94 Cent stamp on it, marked AirMail. Maybe take it to POffice and have it weighed.
I notice their PayPal page is up again. Do the PayPal and send them a short e-mail at the same time telling them if you want the test only or the whole therapy. Ask them to send you the results by e-mail. Our first 16-page results came with the drops in the mail and I was so anxious to see the results. I think they also mention on their site that if you do the whole therapy, you can break it up into two (or so) payments. Just ask them.
Good luck and hope you have very few red x's and red numbers and blockages.
Take care.
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Thank you GiGi. I have zero doubt there will be a LOT of blockages!
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I got my 2nd analysis in the mail with the bottle last month. Currently awaiting my third analysis and drops.
Goood luck, Nutmeg
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Zombie,
The analyses after the first one are not detailed. My third one just said how many chemical and energy blockages I had and not what they were. It came with the drops. My first one was e-mailed to me.
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If they could perfect all blockages, wouldn't we be immortal and live to 500?
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Seekhelp, not quite - But life is a lot simpler if you can at least eat and enjoy good healthy bread without getting neurological handicaps from it. Your body will forever be thankful.
Yes, new toxins are always developed - some 60,000 to 80,000 manmade chemicals now --- and everything you buy seems to stink more and longer. So one has to be vigilant and be thankful someone was smart enough to come up with a solution to correct our software, at least to this stage.
Mr. G. told me just recently that many kids' problems start after vaccinations. Same with animals. They treat cats and dogs successfully!
Take care.
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I just started round 6 today. Energetically, they continue to test very well for me via muscle testing. Still more chemical groups and engergetic blockages to address. It will be interesting to see who is the first American that finds out that they have no more items to correct with AI. I'm interested in hearing how others do with these over time. I'm of the belief that they are helping me to detox much more effectively.
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Had a visit from our friendly nurse A. today. Toxins - chemicals, metals, are really flowing and need
Support - support - support - Drain Drain Drain!! So the skin is not overloaded! Liver and Kidney assist -
She suggested (not Projogurt) support for gut - her pref. Betaglucan from Bioimmersion Sacromycis boulardi Jarrow, for good bug establishing, (with gas being a good sign of die-off)
For Lymph: cilantro pesto (2 T a day) on foods, toss (fresh) it in broth/soups, cilantro tea, lots of cucumber juice ( I mash them up in my little B&D 3cup chopper - I always have one in reserve in case one breaks down and Walmart doesn't carry them anymore - they are the best for raw apples, mousses, etc. )
For kidneys: lots of watermelon (pee a lot), Renelix
Liver: Sauerkraut (made with nothing but fermented cabbage and salt - no preservatives - I find one at Albertsons (can). Most imported ones from Poland and Germany taste great and have no additives. Why in the heck they have to add an additive to Sauerkraut is beyond me!
Kefir, Butyrate (if it tests), Hepat (I think it's Sanum - I don't have it yet)
If you have the KMT - put it on back or omentum - gut (Liver kidney support - they are now working overtime!)and run program #3 (lymph), tissue repair #4, eyes tone #6
My husband is sleeping with it tonight with face mask on back. Runs 4plus hours.
Color if you have Air Energy singlet Oxygen, color blue/green for metal outflow.
To correct anemia (from past malabsorption) - Italian prunes fresh or frozen - spinach - apricots - Floradix
Stick with foods - as God makes them I am sure some people have more to share.
Thought some of you might be interested.
Take care.
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Scott, the corrected software will bring changes and improvements for a year or two after finishing the drops -- that is what I was told the other day. If you really start to think about this, it is quite logical. Most of us have spent years only at half power to have gotten where we were.
Look at the green-yellow-red sections (starting 1.1 - all of those are tested and reorganized. They do not describe at every test what they are finding. It is way too difficult to understand and it would take up too much time. I know they work the synapses, nerves, myelins,etc.
How many switches they have to change depends on how long the train (body) has been going in the wrong direction. First they correct the outer layer. Layer after layer from outer to inner is gone over, and only if the outer layers are corrected, i.e. switched, can they go on to the deeper layers and finally the core. Any error in any of these layers can show up as a different behavior/symptom/cause. So sometimes subjectively we may think things are getting worse, while actually, as AI tell me, things are getting better and better, in tiny increments. That is why it is so important to stay with the drops until they can no longer find any errors.
So the most important thing is to stay with the drops and to not give up even if you feel not much is happening. Eventually, at one time, so they say, they will reach the goal. Or the inner core of the onion.
Make it an apple instead of an onion, sometimes there is no sign of a worm on the ouside, but it is hanging out instead near the core of the fruit.
Rule of thumb: the longer the chronic problem, the longer it will take drops to correct the dysregulations. The body has to fully regulate in order to function at its best.
Create your own reality by the way you think.....
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What Gigi says has certainly been true for me.
During round three I felt like a kid again. Extraordinary strength and energy. Building raised bed gardens, sawing, hammering, and digging.
Round four must have reached a much deeper level. I test for lymph, kidney and liver drainage/support nonstop as well as binders.
I have woken up with searing ear and sinus aches but no infection there. Old stuff moving along I suspect.
Yesterday I felt like I was getting mosquito bites all day in scores of different places. Kept swatting at myself but I was laying on the couch watching the baseball game!! No mosquitos.
The first day of round four my lip twitched for two days and then it was done.
My eyes continue to burn and crust as the chemicals come out.
Due to a mishap I had to start over again with round four which has slowed the process down some but have just sent off for round 5.
I will stick with the drops until they now longer find errors. I am doing nothing else except organ support and binders, occasional magnesium, very little else.
The hundreds of supplements and tinctures I have collected are bagged up and put away.
Some day when no errors are found I really want to know what to attribute it to so I am keeping it ever so simple.
I enjoy raw spinach right out of the garden along with parsley daily (never liked cilantro). I have a dozen different kinds of lettuce that I harvest every evening.
Other than that, all my body is asking for is meat and eggs!!! (and more drops).
Some days I get really down that I feel worse and some days I am just grateful that I don't have to put a name to what I am feeling and know that "this too shall pass."
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P S - I read something yesterday that the A I team posted regarding trying to detox things that your body doesn't recognize as toxins.
He said "it is like asking someone to go out and pick a tulip when they have no idea what one looks like."
I liked that one.
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P S S and most importantly.
THANK YOU GIGI
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Love the kisses, Nanadubo!
Lots of great information in these posts, thank you everyone.
I have had a bit of a crisis with palpitations non-stop this week and have had to cancel my week's holiday [pout].
At least I have found out today what is causing my worsened state :thyroxine levels have soared too high, despite the fact that my dose has been constant for years.
The timing could have been better, but at least it means I can order the drops a week earlier!
I have written to Herr G though in case he has altered the policy of one price including all cycles of drops, because my tests results did say cost would include up to 3 cycles.
I am pretty sure that I will need many many rounds, so I want to be sure on price.
I shall save some of the good detox and binding ideas, thank you again.
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Mine said the same re the 3 cycles, but I have already done 6 and I have not heard of any discussion about charging more for cycles beyond 3. Are you speculating?
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As far as I know, nothing has changed re price. I think it used to be some time ago that people needed less bottles and that was more the norm.
We are, the world is, getting more toxic and it takes more bottles, but they still charge the same (probably old text) That's my explanation. I had been told by other practitioner who is using the therapy for patients that some people are needing more bottles in recent times. I didn't ask why because I was not all that familiar with how this treatment works at that time.
I am sure if you take "stuff" that is not natural to the body, it has an effect of how the therapy works. An already "injured" body is easily "derailed" keeping in mind how this therapy works. That is why they are not in favor of pharma products and only if one cannot be without.
Take care.
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Thanks for the update Gigi! Good to hear that we're all consistently testing for loads of drainage support during the remedy.
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Can you get extremely ill if not taking binders because you don't do alternative testing (i.e., ART)?
I have no access to this stuff. I don't want to destroy my liver. Thoughts?
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Taking binders has no relationship to ART testing other than some optimize what to take using such methods.
So, will not using ART mean you get ill? Not necessarily
Will not taking binders mean you may get ill? More likely.
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Scott, I mean if you don't muscle test and tons of toxins are pouring out due to AI drops, can you get severely ill? No regular doc or typical LLMD will understand or recommend specific things.
I know about the general stuff like activated charcoal, chlorella, etc. I'm not sure how bad it can get with AI...that's all.
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Seekhelp, what are you doing now to support your liver, etc. while on killing agents? Same thing applies with AI. Except when doing AI, the toxins are actually heading for the exits wanting to leave, whereas if we are still allergic to them they many are stuffed away in some body compartment where they will create problems again and again. My first reaction to AI was 2-3 normal BM a day; just like a baby -- every time it eats, it poops ---- unless it is already wheat allergic!
You don't need ART - which really only applies always to the present moment - not for tomorrow or the next week. Tensor testing only applies to the here and now, not tonight or tomorrow. The polarity, as it exists at the present moment when testing. The same for pendulum testing. No energetic testing can predict what the energy of the system will be in a few hours. It is only a loose guide. Common sense should always come first.
You could always get the inexpensive tensor (you make a donation if you can afford it) and learn to do it. It will tell you if you would prefer charcoal to some other binding agent at a certain time, like tonight before going to bed. It will also give you a clue as to what your body is detoxing depending what it tests for. My tensor I feel is worth its weight in gold. I can't fool it and it is my guide and always ready. Nobody can afford to have an ART person at the ready all the time. There is lots of talk here what people use - all can help. But it takes a little effort.
This is what I like to stick with:
As a rule, I think the body still prefers real food as much as possible. Whatever does the trick to evacuate, start sweating again, start peeing lots, etc. Only do what feels comfortable - so I was told. Feel good, read, love, walk, learn, sleep, rest, rest, rest, the body is very busy rebuilding regulation. Let the emotions happen --- watch out and recognize them. You don't need someone's couch. Stay away from the naysayers and the superbug discoverers! The switch into the right direction is already being made with the drops. Take the time to cry.
Take care.
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Seekhelp,
"I know about the general stuff like activated charcoal, chlorella, etc. I'm not sure how bad it can get with AI...that's all."
AI sees the type of big or little chaos as they do our testing. That is why the testing is done in layers. And the drops are made to be tolerated. If you want even less reaction, reduce the intake of drops. Even one drop, i.e. "whispering the information to the body" will do (so Mrs. G. told me). They also recommend "take as many as the first number that comes to mind when you touch the bottle", but never more than 5 drops three times a day. Or test with tensor, etc. The reactions are shortlived, sort of like a gentle wave going through the system. Listen to your body.
Now I am off the air.
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