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Sorry, my keyboarding is bad sometimes.

It's KPU which my ND told me stands for Kryptopyrroluria.

I don't really know much about it except for what I google. Dr. K told my ND that a good number of his lyme patients are positive for this inability to naturally detox. What is PKU?
And what is HSV?

I"ll mentin the copper to my ND when I see her on Monday to discuss the treatment.

I'm waiting for a response from A.I to see if I should treat this during the AI therapy.

This sequencing of treatments gets confusing to me.

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LP,

I agree - figuring out how to sequence treatments is as hard as figuring out which treatments to do.

PKU is Phenylketonuria. If I have it, it is in a mild form as a don't exhibit major symptoms.

HSV is Herpes Simplex Virus.

To read an article which contains Dr. K's view on Kryptopyrroluria (and the zinc/copper issues) go here and click on "Click here for full article":

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/Protocols/Herbs-Used-in-Treating-Lyme.html

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Thanks AndrewinCA!
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Waiting now for round 5 and feeling very optimistic that the AI drops are making some nice shifts.

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great to hear. I'm waiting for round 4. There was definitely some major chemical-dumping for me in last round
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For AI drop-users in the US, how do you pay AI the $10 they request for postage?

I had to send the 2nd sample when I was out of town with no computer and no checkbook, so I didn't pay the postage fee they asked for this time. I do want to pay it, though.

The letter that came with round #2 of the drops today says to pay with postage or a bank note. I doubt they want US postage stamps. Not sure what a bank note is--do they mean a personal check, cashier's check, money order, or what? And do they really want US funds?

I thought about asking them to invoice me through PayPal. What is everyone else doing?

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I've been sending them $10 through paypal. It's easy to set up an account and you just send the money to their email address. That way they don't have to invoice you.

I send them an email giving them a heads up that I have sent payment.

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I do it through PayPal as well.

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Thank you, Nana and Scott. I will do it that way through PayPal.

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I finally got my drops this morning. Does anyone know if they should be stored specially, ie. kept in a dark cupboard?

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Yay! I just keep mine out of direct sun.
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So, I started AI yesterday and this morning I had a head full of clear mucus. I've been sneezing and blowing my nose constantly.

Also, my bowels are loose -which is a big change for chronically-constipated me.

I'm not sure if all this is due to AI or coincidental. I'm wondering if anyone else had a similar reaction with it.

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I put them in refrigirator .
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Zombie, how will you know which is from the AI and which is from cumulative effects of the Progurt working?

In any case, I'd like to get the drops you got. [Smile]

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I never understand why people need to know which is from one thing vs. another. If you take a multi-vitamin and it makes you feel good, do you need to know which of the 100 things in it helped you? As long as you feel better, what does it matter? If you take every potentially helpful treatment and only do them serially when something like Progurt takes a year and something like AI takes a year, you may be delaying your pain and suffering for a long, long time.

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The thing to know would be if one new treatment would be counterproductive if added to another ongoing treatment.
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quote:
Originally posted by lymeparfait:
The thing to know would be if one new treatment would be counterproductive if added to another ongoing treatment.

I really can't see how taking a probiotic like Progurt would interfere with AI... It's a food, not a drug.

Also, I have been using Progurt for 3 weeks but suddenly had liquid diarrhea the day I began AI. It just caused me to wonder.

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Thanks, Zombie - that's the clarification I needed. I wasn't quite sure if the Progurt had STOPPED working and you were back to your old, `abnormal' self or what.

Yes, LP - I agree.

Usually, I'll know within 10 days how I am reacting to something new. But because my symptoms fluctuate anyway, combined with `incomplete evacuation' and `mechanical slow-transit constipation', it may take longer to understand the effect in the GI department. People who don't have this problem can't relate to it, understandably. Nevertheless, it is a critical consideration for me, personally.

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I still think Progurt is great stuff but AI is working on a much deeper level.

According to my first AI analysis, my 2 worst problems are:

1 toxic body burden by recirculating heavy metals
2 dysfunctions/acute blockages in intestines

I strongly feel that the AI drops are resolving these issues.

I have not had a loose BM in YEARS. Since starting the drops 4 days ago, I've been having 2-3 every day.

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Well I started round two of the drops on Monday, I think I got to three times a day once then down to twice a day and today only one time. The problem is it is making my Trigeminal Neralgia, extreme mouth pain act up. I have written to A1 to see if doing it only once a day will still benifit me and if because of dosing scedual should I take them longer than the two weeks.

It is definitly doing somthing to me, those 5 little drops are very powerfull !

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I agree that probiotics and the AI are fine to take together. It was just a general comment about making sure we all are careful, and understand what we are taking together and why.

Some are novices here, and others are more educated in protocols. We are all learning from each other as well. It's a good thing!

I am still waiting for my round two of AI, but am on the Progurt and the KPU protocol for Dr. K.

I am having some unique things going on. I still have constipation, and now I am getting loads of candida in my mouth! It looks like cottage cheese and is sticky.

I am also curious if the candida release is causing my constipation. Bowels are light yellow light brownish when they appear!

Anyone else have this?

Just wondering if this is from the AI or the Progurt or KPU? Or the combo of it all.

I don't really have to know what thing is producing the candida dumping...but I am very curious as always about new positive things with my body, and am happy something I can actually see is being released.

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My goodness - everyone seems to have such unique - and sometimes surprising - reactions. I would be SO tempted to take a homeopathic remedy for some of this - like Kissis with the Trigeminal Neuralgia flare - but that's NOT allowed on the AI, I guess.

(Please let us know what the AI folks says, Kissis.)

Very disconcerting for me about NO remedies; it's like taking away my security blanket.

LP, yellow stool can be several things: rapid transit through the GI tract, insufficient bile secretions, certain parasites, eating a lot of rice.... pretty big list. And maybe that candida thing would cause it - I don't know about that one. That's amazing about the candida `dumping' in your mouth.....!

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hi ellen,
according to classical homeopathy texts,
mucus and loose bowels being released from the body is good and it's a sign that you have been given a correct remedy. it means things are releasing/regulating.
so that's good!

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When you are in AI drops the best is not to be on any homepathic formula I was said.

The reason it to let the body take the entire information and let it do the job.

Also when you take the first drops the body is taking that information as putting it in action ( have tested as when you reach like 10 days on drops the information is about 80 % in the body ) .At the very last few days your body has already takne most of it and start working ( even though was working even before ) but now is adapting strongly to it.

I have tested how mercury was letting released from me as I was taking the drops.Over time ...yes as metals are first that came into my FINDINGS ( due to the bridges) ..I started cleaning them and my candida came up worst.

I knew that as the metals were released I have only one job to do..testing for binders..

I used to test VERY VERY HIGH on A/C in the begining.

ALMOST 2 months in a row.Now I almost do not test for it at all.

If you are having Yeallow /orange Bm than means your liver is not producing enough biles due to the parasites , infections that have already bloacked the liver before drops started .


Also somtimes is so much dumping of the metals released and your liver is not able ( due to the previous inflamation /inflection load) to process some more ...toxins released.

You need to bind them .Avoiding ( if you can) homepathics ( are a NO when in AI drops) ...and medications as well..but when your body needs them desperatly -I was told you can take them.

It is just the fact that will not let the body receive 100% of the information.

I did the treatment on diferent aproach the first and second time testing as I was doing them to undertand the level of working and what was doing .As i was doing other things..I noticed based on testing that I did not reached 100% in the first round as they were interfiering as I did on the second ROUND.

I was able to be off everything ..besides a few symtoms that were scary before I started the second treatment ..knowing that I wanted my body to receive all the information and everything you take is interfiering with it and I also got the answer that I can be off everything the second round .It came out TRUE.

BEcause I tested and saw myself to be true..I managed to not do any kind of treatment with second round.My information was completly absorbed the second round.

I know is hard to do when you already have too much going on and the body is already off balance due to the high levels of toxins and inflamation and you are already off balance.I am talking about the ones that are very sick with active infections and have many bloackages already.

THE DROPS worked 100% and I managed to be off every thing on the second round.

Overtime I also was able to test with vials( that I have had handy as I ordered them exactly as it came in my sons test) ...all the things that originaly came out positive on him came in my case ...so when my drops started I have had them handy to see how my body was affected as I was taking the drops.

I have had handy all the vials and saw how once my body received the information I am releasing them , even the percentage and organs .I could see them overtime droping in percentage ...

Funny that I wanted to do DMSA and ALA a while ago ..and could not due to the hig level of inflamation but now I TEST NEGATIVE on them as I do not need them .

My body has already released mercury from the brain and other cells....over the time ..and now I am no longer having mercury bloackages .THIS IS WHEN MY LYME and ALL COINFECTIONS TESTED STRONGLY negative from MY LLMD last week.

I tested my daughter that has not done the AI.She was positive on MERCURY and tested positive in ALA and DMSA.

The drops definitly helped.I also noticed that every time I treat I see that I wake up a few bugs of borrelia.When the body releases the chemicals and metals...a few CYST that were hiding in them are activated.

I will mention as when I was very high on load of BORRELIA in my brain ( neuro) I was very high on mercury in my brain level 10 from 1-10 and the same amount of borrelia ( ART) my ND that first diagnosed me when still have not seen an ND and done IGENEX at that time.

So releasing them from our body is a MAJOR step as the bugs might be in remission hiding..but can come back.I really am glad so far on what I see with the drops .Hope continues further.

I do not have anymore chemical sensitivety and when I woke on the stores the smells DO NOT BOTHER me any more ( it used to be aproblm e for me for over a decade) even though I have 100% babs/protozoa and other infections lurking in me..but seems that the body can handle them way much better now that the chemicals and food alergies and metals are going down in my case.

I also tested for the bread yesterday ( even though I ate all the time before but I could feel that was making me sick after).I could eat and I was allowed to have with no side efects one piece of grain bread.2 was not OK but ONE was FINE with no problem.ANd I felt no diference at all.BEFORE I could not as it will made me sick and I would feel like enchephalitic in my brain .

So my for son .I also noticed I am craving BUTTER and MEAT....and have noticed that this are great BINDERS in my case when my body is releasing them .MY BM and digestive track seems to recover.Before when I was very sick could not touch butter and meat as I was not ready to digest it...as my digestive track is better I am craving for it .

At my sickest I was in juicing as my gut was acting out on anything I was eating..my liver was exsploding ( insipte of 5 liver flushes and many parasites killing I HAVE HAD DONE) .

I have not tried PROGURT yet,that will be in my future.I also tested very low in probiotics.Interesting as before I needed up to 15 sometimes a day due to the inflamation.

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Well I got a reply back from A-1 and he said 5 drops 2 x a day will surfice for 2 weeks. I just hope I can make it through the pain.I can barly talk and eating is like torture with this TN . Please guys tell me this is worth it ? I feel like I have to tough this out.
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HI Alv

It was really interseting to read your post, esp re the mercury ... great news you are no longer testing positive to chelation for mercury. Will you have any more testing done to verify this or do you feel for sure this problem has gone?

I've decided that I'm going to switch over to AI as Ive been really encouraged by everyone's posts here.

Ive been doing NES (nutrienergetics.com) for a few months and prior to that Field Control Therapy and they do all seem to work in a very similar way, eg on the DNA level and quantum physics level and giving the body the correct information, but it will be more practical and cost effective for me to do AI.

I know I still have a mercury problem and a big detox problem so it will be interesting to see what comes up in the test and how I get on with the drops having tried the other two approaches.

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One thing SHIMMY!

I am not wasting any more dollar to test.I have been around ANDREW CUTLERS forum 3 years ago.I was not ready for it than.I meet another doctor that aplies it at MY BIOLOGIST dentist.

He would not address the MERCURY if you have a LEAKY GUT.

So I did things one at a time.I reduced the inflamation based in ART , worked on keeping my kidney , liver top work status, cleaned parasites non stop for 3 years( will be a maintanace for the rest of my life)...as I was doing AI ...I found NO NEED for CHELATION.

If my immune system is picking it up and releasing it on its own why do I need to do it.


If the IMMUNE SYSTEM takes the info to correct the ERROR of not recognizing MY MERCURY as a problem...and now is working to get it out..than WHY do I have to go any further.

I have used tablespoon of CLorella and CILANTRO for mercury but seems that AI works in very deeper level ..and my imune is doing its job itself when he was suposed to do it since in the begining.My leaky gut and my kidney back than could not handle the release of more mercury .


THE FIRST thing that I invested on my health 3 years 1/2 ago was REMOVING MY MOLLARS , root canals...did not try to save any of them and all the bridges and fillings over life time .I did not know about lyme than BUT I knew based on HULDA CLARCK that every cronic disease should start from that treatment.

Also my teeth were hurting LIKE hell than .i have been compleining from my jaw for almost 15 year.No one could figure it out.

I was done with MANY types of EXSPLANATIONS from EVERY surgeon and profesor that I have seen in regards to the JAW.NO one even cared to see if there was any cronic inflamation going on .I feel they are a JOKE !!!

ONLY the BIOLOGIST dentist gave me a hint when he saw my mouth that there was a CRONIC inflamation to get at that POINT -while the regular DENTIST was telling me to use tothpaste for SENSITIVE TEETH.Are you kidding me sensitive teeth ?They were hurting like hell!!!They were sensitive for over a decade.


I also have later a MERCURY tatto surgical removal.Beilive it or not 2 years ago..bugs liked to hang at the mercury tatto.I had to do the second surgical removal to another surgeon that knew about lyme and still was trying to convince me that THE TATTO is not doing anything to me.

Seems that THE MERCURY has been licking in my jaw for decades ..since a kid and even though MY BIOLOGIST dentist scraped it ...he could not scrape any further.I have had BONNE mass loss due to the infaction that HANGED out exactly there.

My rest of frontal teeth that never had a ROOT canal and never got filling are left and they are very strong right now.So yes mercury there and bugs were going handy together.

I probably will continue showing chemicals from injections( as I have done SO MANY to fix my mollars and CREATE exspensive BRIDGES THOUSAND of DOLLARS wasted -WHO KNEW ?) and I was killing myself .

I am not going to waste MONEY to proove this and THAT as long as I test negative energeticly for anything.

I tested with BIOTENSOR and with Pendulum.AI goes even deeper that this two and ART as well.

Only by testing I got to where I am .I never did anything that IS NOT TESTING for ME.Inspite of MY LLMD wanted me to try.ONCE I knew I was alergic to CEPHARIN( that was the only time I did not tested for it with my llmd ) as MY LLMD wanted to try KETEK and this ( I did not had the drugs with me and was first time trying )....

I told MY LLMD I was alergic ( tested in germany as I could not use it a decade ago) .My LLMD did not beilive me or better say thought I was having a herx.

I was really scared and took it but instead of the whole dosage I took 1/2 .In two weeks I start caughing and I looked as ASTHMA atack.

Since than I never ever tried anything without testing it in my body .VERY SIMPLE as that .WHen my body said NO for one thing I never took it.I move on to the one that TESTED positive only .So I based my progress only on TESTING whatever was the thing that I was using, herbs, homepathic, drugs, vitamins every thing.

Back than I did not master any of test.I was too SICK but was still trying and was not giving up but not trusting myself either.

I went to MY ND that is master on TESTING .I tested and MY ND said NO WAY ..your body said BIG NO.CALLED my LLMD to let know that was killing me and making ME WORST!


The money I spent on vials ( out of curiosity ) to FIND if it was WORTHIT on what it says is doing was enough for me to continue .

YES I test it as I needed to know if this really is working.So I ordered all the vials that MY SON tested previous to me POSITIVE.Than I ordered some mines.

Over the treatment of the begining ...I could see the levels droped.It took over a month to see that my body was releasing mercury ...THIS IS ALL I CARE!!!

The confirmation that I test NEGATIVE for DMSA and ALA and I test negative to take it IS GOOD ENOUGH for me.

You can all draw your own conclusion and make your own decision.For me was enough to see what is working .

Brussels beilives on what she is doing as SHE KEEP testing NON stop.It took time but I did not give up to master it and I am glad I did.

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Is it super important to do the drops before Bionic treatment or would it work to do the drops after treatment?
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It works no matter when you do it, but I am told there is a possibility you may not need the bionic treatment after the AI drops.

AI will clear many things, so after treatment you will know where you stand and what is left to work on if anything!

Most doing the AI therapy had already been to Germany and had the bionic treatment first. Since I had to cancel my trip to Germany in March, it was recommended to me to start the drop therapy first. I also added the Progurt Therapy.

So I am now doing the AI drops, and may do the bionic at a future time.

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lymeparfait--

That would be wonderful if it were true, but allergie-immun is also finding new allergies as they go along & constantly updating their database. In my case, the AI has been helpful but doesn't eradicate physically-expressed allergies completely. For example, I am still allergic to gluten and even after my heavy metals allergies were supposedly "cleared", the progurt still sequestered heavy metals, I'm still finding deposits of mercury in areas like my pharynx, and I still tested positive for a tuberculosis homeopathic despite "clearing" this allergy too.

I am not bashing this therapy as I think it has been very helpful for jump-starting re-regulation of cellular communication (which is really the end goal), but it can't do it all by itself.

It would be wise to do this before the bionic tho, as it will certainly make photon treatment less redundant and more productive.

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Speaking of which.. just got my round 4 back. 6 chemical substances and 3 energetic blockages. woohoo
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Hi Alv,

Just wondering how long you have been doing AI and how many rounds you have completed.

My integrative doc feels that metals are my no. 1 issue and wants me to begin iv chelation asap.

I'm seeing him in 2 days and will get the results of my edta challenge then.

I'm thinking I want to hold off on chelating until after my next AI results come back...

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I would not mess up on any of the IV.I have done so many things before I did AI.HAVE finished the 2nd round and I showed up metals for the very first time.

I beilive that many things I have done have helped my body in one way or the other ..I have done major things..and killing also COinfections..before doing the drops.Left with a few now.

If AI was the last thing I needed than so be it.I am not OK with IV again and never was.I would go for DMSA or DMPS and ALA based on ANDREWS CUTLER protocoll as the safest.You can not play with mercury .

I have done through trial and errors many mistakes..and I can not recomend this to people.

If your body has too many infections..going on they need to be addressed as well and have your kidney and GUT top function ..to get them out...

We are all diferent and is very hard to match one with the other.

Some have done some protocoll and some not and the priorities of the treatment are difernt from one or the other due to the DIFERENCE of all the reason we are sick .

My point is ..when I was sick ...and DID major KILLING of BUGS...I have had to stop KILLING for 2 MONTHS.I needed to open up my kidney and bind the metals .It was like playing hide and sick .

Too many things going on at the same time and MY ND had to change the protocoll to keep me alive and bind the metals that WERE RELEASED ( due to MAJOR killing I DID without knowing I have had LYME and coinfections ).

I have been doing almost 4 years cleansing and HERXING non stop.

So I really can not allow myself compare with somebody that has just got bit or had never had mercury on his mouth.You really need somebody to guide but based on your BODIES priority and needs.

The BODY can handle SO MUCH and can CLEAN a CERTAIN amount.I noticed that too much inflamation and infections going around..than the liver is cloged and can not get them out quckly it will take time.

MY SON for instance ..he did not have mercury alergy and HE never showed MERCURY with my ND ...but he still is slowly detoxing as I CAN NOT BE agreasive with him .He is just a KID.So he is cleaning very slowly also due to the fact he has more active coinfections as I DO and a slow second phase of the LIVER .

ALSO I did 5 liver flushes that allowed me to go with higher dosages comparing to any other person while my son had hard to deal with certain amount.
HIs liver is cloged and ispite of doing many things...it was never ready to detox any of the kinds of toxins fast.

I am strugling with him and be patient.

I WAS WAY AGREASIVE with MY SELF On my treatment for 4 years.I was LUCKY that HAVE done major cleansing before I found out about LYME.MY LLMD said YOU ARE READY TO KILL once learned on what I have done.

This might as well be the reason I was OFF antibiotics on 19 months when I have seen people at MY LLMD office that THEY have had PORTERS in their chest for 5 years and THEY WERE NEVER SICK as IN MY CASE.I was more severely sick than ANYBODY ELSE.They still are in Antibiotics.

I decided to aproach with a diferent treatment as I did as I DID not accepted to STAY On antibiotics all my life.NO WAY .I used every thing I COULD to be on top of INFECTIONS and DETOX.

So DETOXING has been non stop for almost since 4 years ago.BINDERS have been in my system non stop.

I have had the disease ALL MY LIFE and HAVE all the coinfections of EUROPE AND USA!THink about that .

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Thanks Alv,

I will bring my AI analysis + booklet with me when I see my dr. and I will ask to hold off on chelation for the time being.

He seems like he is open minded -he trained in Germany and speaks the language fluently.

I strongly feel that AI is doing something for metals -I have that metallic taste in my mouth since starting the drops 5 days ago.

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Reading these posts back and forth makes me realize I'm in a whole different world. I am absolutely clueless about all this testing, metals, etc. If it truly takes all that to get better, I'm a dead man. [Frown]
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Dear Friends,

I've completed Round 2 of the AI drops now, and am waiting the week to send in the new sample for Round 3, per the written instructions.

I just had a CD-57 test done, and it came back at 48. The last two, first done in 2007 and then in December 2008, were both 36--exactly the same level. So, it appears to be coming up!

I've been taking my temperature more regularly, and it is still trending subnormal, with few readings in the 98 and above area.

I had some previous symptoms that had disappeared start up and then go away: vertigo, headaches, runny nose, back pain.

A lump I've had in my arm for years is now nearly gone.

Tinnitus is worse.

Thinking and ability to persist in a task requiring thinking are BETTER!

I have more appetite--the body wants to be fed!

I'm still having to take a nap every afternoon, and have some insomnia.

I am continuing to take the vitamins and minerals relating to seizures and severe leg cramps, but no herbs and no homeopathics.

Also, I do take the methylation factors, chlorella, and zeolite to help get toxins out of the body, which I was doing before I started the AI drops. I also started a mild pro-biotic a few days ago.

I'm planning to take some anti-fungal stuff after I send off my test sample while waiting for the next round of drops to arrive.

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Thanks for the AI reports all!

Joey, I appreciate your candor, as we all go along more is being revealed to us following your footsteps as to exactly what AI can do for each individual.

Do you believe it has to do with what disregulation was inherited, and deep in DNA, versus what was acquired as far as what is cleared? For example, have you heard of anyone ever cleared long term with the gluten intolerance allergy?

Any way, the only disregulation clearing I believe my daughter and I have truly experienced is emotional clearing of anxiety and depression. It appears to be directly related to AI.

Whether that remains is to be seen. But in my daughter, it has been dramatic and positive. A complete turn around.

We have not received our reports after round one, and have not tried gluten to test yet.

Also, does anyone have a good , mild detox protocol or product that would be easy for a teen to do along with AI.? She still gets migrains and does have symptoms of recirculating toxins. Would love to give her some relief.

Thanks, LP

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Hi Alv

Thanks very much for your reply. Its very interesting that you dont need to chelate, thats great. I totally understand where you are coming from regarding tests. I think its great that you persevered and trusted yourself with the testing and that has worked for you. I am not confident enough to do that for myself yet but my practitioner does dowse for me.

I know HC's protocol has worked for a lot of other people too...though I only did her parasite treatment for a short while myself.

Thanks again, all the best with your treatments!

Anne

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quote:
Originally posted by m0joey:
lymeparfait--

In my case, the AI has been helpful but doesn't eradicate physically-expressed allergies completely. For example, I am still allergic to gluten and even after my heavy metals allergies were supposedly "cleared", the progurt still sequestered heavy metals, I'm still finding deposits of mercury in areas like my pharynx, and I still tested positive for a tuberculosis homeopathic despite "clearing" this allergy too.

Hi Joey,

Thanks for this post.

Just a question about the metals, I dont know if I've understood this correctly as I havent started AI yet but presumably even though the AI has helped to clear the blockage ... so your body now knows how to deal with the metals ... but presumably this doesnt necessarily mean that your body HAS cleared the metals completely as they are still hanging around, but rather that it is just going to take some more time to get rid of them now that it has the right information?? Does that make sense?? Is that how it works or were you expecting to have gotten rid of the metals completely by now?

It is disappointing to hear that you still have the gluten & TB allergy that were supposed to have cleared. Maybe the gluten allergy is related to the metals still being there. I appreciate that you have still found the AI helpful tho.

All the best, Anne.

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I have been using the biotensor to test myself, although I am not proficient in it's use. So I keep retesting the same statements each day!

I have been getting the same responses.

When I state that my body has mercury and heavy metals, it is a strong yes.

When I state that the metals are being removed now with AI, it says a no.

When I further state that my body needs to remove these metals now it says a stronger no.

When I then state that my body is regulating with the AI for metal and re-circulating toxin removal, it says a strong yes.

When I state that AI therapy is strongly helping my body regulate detox pathways and deep allergies, it says a strong yes.

When I state that my body has KPU, the blockage in the detox pathway, it give a strong yes.
(I have started that protocol for KPU as well)

When I state my body is preparing to remove these substances naturally now, it is a strong yes.

When I state I need binders for metals while on AI and the PKU protocol it is a strong no.

(this one confuses me) But as it appears I am not releasing metals yet, I do not need the binders.

I am hoping to be releaseing the metals. It's not like me to not be prepared to mop up so I am very tempted to take mercury binders and detox just to be safe. But my testing says no.

IF I take them, I may do harm and cause them to recirculate I speculate.

When I was ART tested with my ND, she did not get a yes for binders. I also thought this was strange. She said my KPU protocol tests strong without binders.

Scott and others take many binders and they test strongly for them.

So I must be very blocked for detox. And I feel I must test regularly to know when I need to add binders and when my metals are starting to be moved.

Hopefully this will change over time, but even my AI test shows no heavy metals in round 1, so it will be interesting to see if muscle testing and my biotenser confirm what the test results say.

We are all different too, so it's good to compare, but know that we cannot expect the same results as others.

Any thoughts?

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I am just guessing, but I think that AI cannot be a miracle treatment if done by itself. I can't see how all allergies would disappear suddenly if the load of pathogens + toxins (heavy metals included) are not lowered at the same time.

I just feel that AI has to be done in years rather than months together with killers + heavy metal detox to be REALLY effective on the allergy side.

I am not an allergic type of person, but every time I get active borrelia (I mean, with symptoms) my body gets more and more allergic to foods, like wheat, spelt, milk, and many fruits and vegetables. I've seen that at least 3 times now to be sure my allergies are caused by some disfunction caused by borrelia itself.

It could be a mechanism borrelia does to lower immunity OR it could be a consequence of lower immunity caused by borrelia. The result is though to the advanatage of borrelia, not to my side.

Once borrelia gets dormant (or a bit before it), all these allergies also disappear for me. But I've never been a long term allergic person as I said before.

My daughter was though born allergic (before borreliosis) and her food allergies are now all clear. Like husband's allergies (he's never got lyme), that he got since he was a baby, are now clear (for food).

At the same time, he's MORE allergic to sun, while my daughter is reacting strong now to insect bites and to pesticides (with strong allergic reactions).

We are all with saliva products at home (NOT AI, but self made). My FEELING is exactly what Joey suggests, that while many allergies go for good (I see that with astonishment with my daughter, like shrimp allergy, milk allergy simply vanished), others seem to appear or increase in power.

My feeling with that is exactly like with NAET and other allergy dissentization techniques.

There's something BEHIND allergies to treat.

With NAET, it doesn't last longer. I also used MFT dissentization, it also wears after time.

In our case, psychological issues are constantly being treated and I do feel our psyc 'load' is small now, SO I suspect most of our problems are still high load of toxins (heavy metals, specially) which carry high loads of pathogens (dormant or active), which are themselves very 'allergenic' because they're caustic.

Unless we don't continue our heavy metal detoxing (and other substances detoxing), the allergic cycle will not break for good, if you see what I mean.

Even though, it is wonderful that my family now is not allergic to foods, and I do believe that the number of allergies is diminishing.

I'm not saying AI doesn't work. Not at all. I guess it makes a wonderful marriage to other modes of treatment, by what I am reading here, but I can't see how it could be THE solution for allergies.

I also feel my saliva products are working, but it's not a solo treatment again, in my feeling. I'm not stopping taking them, because I also see deep changes going on.

But I am continuing steadily with trying to correct the milieu for us.

These are just hypotheses, but that is how I feel these type of allergy dissentization treatments.

It's just a feeling as I'm not doing AI, just following the thread.

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Where there are no toxins, there are no infections. If the AI drops can drive down the level of toxins, they in theory would also support a lowering of infection.

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Agree with Scott..all goes back to Klinghardt's axiom doesn't it? AI gets to root of disease by giving our cells the right "information" via biophtons. In The Living Matrix, the consensus by researchers & doctors on the frontier is that disease is essentially a distortion of information, or a lack of coherence in the body.

Maybe after the treatment is complete, gluten allergy wouldn't be there anymore, I don't know. I think it is definitely in the DNA because my father who is not sick has similar allergies to me for whatever reasons that built up through the generations: lack of oxidation, emotions, toxins, etc. But the AI is, once again, jump-starting us with the right information... like NAET or other energetic treatment, it can't supply that information 24/7. The end goal is to enable our bodies to supply that information intrinsically... and for that to happen we need to be clear of both energetic and physical blockages (as Brussels said)

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Sorry, I think I didn't then understand that most people here with the AI drops are then releasing toxins (heavy metals included) from storage places WITHOUT any chelating agents (only binders) ??

If so, then it WOULD then be a solo treatment that would theoretically work for lyme disease and any other chronic condition involving infections, right?

The use of photons and the Bionic to detox heavy metals is then out (or secondary to the AI)?

I'm just trying to understand it better... So, if I understood well, the AI is being used here as a MAIN treatment (and mostly SOLO treatment as people are not taking many supplements together), that theoretically is supposed to solve most of our problems in the deepest level (toxins, blockages, then indirectly, infections)?

If I remember well from the beginning of the thread, people were speaking of a total of 6 rounds or so...

I'm just trying to understand in a time frame, it means that in 5-6 months maximum all these disregulations/ toxin loads we carry, some even since birth, would be then mostly solved in this time frame?

By your experiences with the AI for a few months now, do you all feel this is possible to reach in this time frame, not only theoretically?

I'm just wondering if my body could dump all these toxins in 6 months only, if I would survive!

Or do you feel it is NOT a one time treatment, but it could involve some other corrections from other treatments in between, then possibly having to come back to AI drops later in the future (let's say, in a year)?

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There will be lots of opinions on this and no absolutes at this stage. So people will have to continue trying these treatments themsevles and forming conclusions. It would be unwise of me or anyone else just 4 or 5 rounds into AI to comment on whether or not it would work alone - no one knows. Call and talk with the AI team.

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I find this whole subject really fascinating and I'm going to order The Living Matrix soon too.

For anyone interested, the NES site has some really fascinating articles written by Peter Fraser who is interviewed in The Living Matrix. They are specific to the NES approach but still well worth reading as its on the same subject of quantum physics theory as the theoretical background to how the body regulates information flow eg Integrating Physics and Biology - The Coming Medical Revolution.

http://www.nutrienergetics.com/research.html

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Dear LP,

A very simple, gentle detox proceedure uses the symplified methylation factors protocol and chlorella.

Basically, you take detox baths for a month or so.

Then, you take the lowest possible doses of the methylation factors once a day before going to bed. You start out with a few of the Chlorella from BioPure (Dr. K's products) before a meal, and add some slowly, backing down if you get any nausea, and staying at the same level if you get any other reaction.

You go with this, until you reach 30 chlorella, as I recall. Then, you can stay at 15 per day, taken 30 minutes before eating.

This is very gentle, and helps the body to get the toxins out of the cells.

There are other threads about this here at Lymenet--under "methylation," as I recall.

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I agree with Scott that it is difficult for any of us to say for sure after 3,4 or 5 rounds of A I but I am strongly leaning toward this being a stand alone treatment. Just my PO.

I have asked what might happen if I were to find an embedded tick on me and I was told that I am far enough along with the remedies that my body will handle it.

This doesn't make me throw caution to the wind and I still wear my cute white outfit when gardening or working outside. But if this is correct, it's very encouraging.

In terms of gluten allergy, my impression is that we might clear the information about wheat or gluten with the first remedy but that does not mean the gut has healed.

The same with metals, I can clear the information so the metals are no longer being stored but if they all came out immediately,
it could very well kill me.

I believe I am releasing everything now at at rate my body can tolerate. I take binders when I test positively for them but I don't plan to take any chelating agents for now.

In fact, I am really not taking any of the 50 or so supplements I have laying around. Occasional magnesium, liver and kidney support when needed. That's about it.

If your detox pathways are blocked, isn't this something that will be found with testing through AI as well? They may not call it the same thing but my impression is that EVERYTHING is addressed at some point.

When I reach the point where they no longer find anything, I plan to retest at least once a year.

I am extremely pleased with the results I have had since starting this in January.

My only remaining issue (that I can physically feel) is like clockwork - twice a day I get a squeezing, pulling sensation in my face and eyes. This maybe chemicals, metals and or fungus being released and some days it doesn't happen at all.

I will be starting my 4th remedy in a day or so.

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Yes Brussels!

I have been releasing the chemicals and metals and all I was doing was taking binders.

Every time I have my son on drops ..I test and smeell chemicals ( hope I am not offending anyone ) on his urine.

So did I when I am on the drops and I think that Scoot had the same reaction.My son has already DONE DETOX for the chemicals non stop with MY ND since 2006 and based on the test showed no more chemicals.The AI drops and test still shows that he has ( some are unknown) .He used for detox All germans homepathic formulas.

But AI is making his body corrections and releasing them now slowly -so for me .

The only thing that he test high is SOLIDAGO( his kidney ) due to the BABESIA (and gram negative infection) high in his case right now .I found he had more than one strain of babesia ( no wonder ).

My son lately tested negative for TREE and POLLEN homepathic formula first time ever .I am not sure killing infections or doing drops helped at this point but last year when he was on treatment and had finished chemicals detoxing he needed them to treat the allergies.

BUT he used to have allergies every year and he tested negative this year.Time will tell as now I can test myself.I am not at the end to give conclusion if that can work alone.

I doubt that people that have many active infections can handle alone just the drops..As we still are treating .

Let says ACTIVE babesia is not a joke and I still have to do other treatments to keep it down and try to do be off every thing on drops.

I also noticed that every time I am on DROPS lyme ( cyst) activate in my brain and I get a NO ANSWER to treat it.It shuts up by itself.Second time happened like this ( I have garini) .

So reducing chemicals or killing infections or taking the DROPS from AI I am not not sure what is doing the changes on his alergies ( as this was in connections since last year this time ) and we have done many things since than .

But one thing for sure he is negative as well as me in chemicals that I tested and he eats food ( grain ) non stop without problem.

Sometimes I try to find if GLUTEN alergy was the reason of infections getting a hold or alergies and bloackages comes first but seems like they go handy .


I also feel diferent reaction now.Before I used to feel a pulling sensation from the top of the head.Now I feel only on difernt part of my face and just a few random in my head ,mostly my face ( bells palsy ) and jaw where the root canals were infected and chemicals are hanging.

My eyes are open wide ( and relaxed) even though I still see floaters and I know that I still have some bugs.Seems that with less toxins the body can handle the infections ( left with 3 now from 13 active) .

Actually it took over 3 months to see the levels of metals droping.But I guess my body was able to handle and was the turn for my imune to release them due to less infections active in my body.

I feel like IF you have a HIGH active infections...the body will accumulate as it is very overwelmed by the toxins whichever type they are and ( mostly if you have errors on it) it does not have time to deal with them all , so we start accumulating , neurotoxins or chemicals that we have "ERRORS" for.


My body is exsposed to them 24/7 but now it seems that is not holding in the chemicals..and is releasing them.I do not test for SOLIDAGO or HEPATICA.I also treated yesterday and I tested only for 5 A/c after light treatment.

I usully tested for 15 non stop for 5 months( no kidding ) .And this after a long time aproaching on using clorella and cilantro ...or you name it...to detox.I still continue doing SAUNAS as well.

I can not say that it can be as a stand alone as a protocoll ...I test and go with what is most beneficial.WHen I receive that in my case my body needs it and it will not interfier with the DROPS than I go for it in between the drops.

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Cass A.
Thanks for your recommendations.
I have tested to take Chorella, and I get a strong no, yet my daughter gets a strong yes. She takes 15 day.

I don't know why I do not get a yes. It seems that Chorella would be as you say, a gentle way to insure I get help with the metals.

Every day I have been tempted to add it to my daily regime, but then I stop myself , due to my biotenser testing.

There is a chance that I need to get my liver cleansed first...I will get this tested.

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