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I had another question as I think candida may be an issue for me as well. I'm trying to eat less sugar, but need to keep weight on and found that gluten free vegan baked goods help :-) Also, the candida diet says vegetables and various meats, but I'm trying to be easy on my digestive system and I think meat is difficult to digest?
Anyone have thoughts?
Also, HG emailed me back within 1 day! That was reassuring.
Waiting for our 5th round of drops! Starting my husband on the drops as well so hope it goes well for him too!
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Hey all, I just sent payment to AI and noticed that they are tacking on an additional $6 for postage. Has this additional charge always been there (and I didn't notice) or is this something new?
Either way, do we still send out the $10 separately for postage?
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I always just send it via Paypal and include my PSP numbers so they know for sure who sent it.
I knew to send postage money when I started back in February, but not sure it said $6.00.
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AI asks to send 6.00 Euros for postage for each bottle/package. Call it shipping & handling. If you look at the label of the yellow box the drops come in - you will notice that it costs that much. It is stamped right on the label. Before the value of the Dollar/Euro changed, that equalled $10.00 (US Dollars). So anyone who wanted to reimburse them in cash, would send a $10 bill. This is how most Germans do it.
Not sure it is safe. German friends of ours ordered a CD once from some American company and put the cash in the envelope (they did it while they were vacationing here in this country and had no checking acct) and of course never saw the CD nor any other response. I tried to make up for the loss later and sent them a CD, but of course it was not the same as the CD of The Fifties' Music that they had listened to and wanted.
So they ask either $10.00 or 6.00 Euro (symbol is E with dash - not on my old keyboard) for each shipment.
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This sounds good - will do it that way tonight!
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Gettin and all, It is difficult to detox without the right proteins. There are some tribes up in the high mountains of Peru or somewhere who live on nothing but sweet potatoes and are perfectly healthy. That does not work for us. DK repeats again and again - "have never met a healthy vegetarian".
Most of us need digestive aids, at least for a while, especially after the leaky gut has done a number on us.
As you are releasing metals, you will notice fungi/candida neurotoxins flaring. But it changes almost daily. If you learn to test yourself, you will notice during AI, one day candida/fungi shows up, next day possible a few bits of virals. A bit of a herpes/mouth is typical. It is the first thing that shows. All part of a general detoxing period. It needs to be addressed on a daily basis. Candida shows, I up garlic or antifungals. Same if viruses test for a day, I add Vit A or garlic or any of the antivirals - for just a day or two.
It all is part of the detoxing - because all in our ecosystem are now on high alert and their way of life is disturbed. After a while all returns to calm. So no need to panic. It is not new, it is exactly as Dr.K. has been preaching for years - "If you have one thing, you also have the others". This is not a reinfection or acute - it is neurotoxins on the move and we feel them.
I would not do Alinia at this point, even if you test for it. It is going to be a much easier process after you have finished a few more bottles and eliminated other dysregulations. Alinia definitely "digs deep" and I would not have wanted to try that during the early rounds.
We just started it on #14 - and we are fully aware of the effects --- the are definitely there. My husband had done Alinia 6plus years ago! These buggers do not go without putting up a fight! Alinia works on all including biofilm. They lived in "heaven" all these years. The body is doing double duty and I do not believe in forcing things too early. That is a decision you need to make. Remember, Dr.K. has been detoxing for twenty some years and more and did not have as nearly as bad AI test results as any of us did. So even though he is doing the drops, his reactions are there, but probably much milder than some of us have experienced. So I don't always do what he says or tests! I learned that many years ago - he is a tough cookie when it comes to tolerance. Don't tell anyone I said so!
Ready for breakfast!
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Thanks Gigi. That is interesting and you make good points.
I'm doing a lot better after starting Ketotifen. I noticed when I did a search on "ketotifen" here on Lymenet that you posted about it a few years back saying it did indeed help leaky gut. I feel so happy! Perhaps because the sun is finally out too :-)
Thanks again.
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I called BioPure about the minerals and they said they cannot give out any information. The guy in K's office, Sam at the dispensary, said the same thing. I wonder if taking the minerals with food would cut down on the brain feeling like it was hit by a truck.
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Minerals should always be taken with food. It actually is, or used to be when food was still food, a part of food.
I do not know how far you are with AI, but one of the reasons AI cautions on taking a lot of products or any products is because you may still be unable to regulate, i.e. still allergic, to some of them. Minerals are a perfectly healthy thing, but when the system turns chaotic, who knows. Go with a bit less, or change the brand, and take them with food. And don't take everything every day.
The more of products you take that have a strong detoxing effect, the worse you may feel because your body still is unable to deal with big loads of toxins.
I had call from a doctor this morning in Europe who told me about a detoxing device that captures the toxins while the person is connected to the device. He was talking that one can actually see the dirt that comes out, visible then in a container, to the naked eye. It's probably a good idea we don't all know how much of that garbage is tugged away in our body.
He mentioned to me to eat two organic bananas a day to get at the enzymes more readily.
Yes, Gettin, I have posted many things over the years - in one ear and out the other for most people. If it doesn't work like a pain pill with instant results, people seem to pass over it.
Yes, the sun is finally out, and I am going to climb up on the roof in a minute to put up sun blinds over the large skylights, so that we will not have to smother in the heat. One of my kids was smart enough to "confiscate" Mom's 24 foot ladder - but I have a shorter one that still reaches where I need to go. Keep your fingers crossed!
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Quoting Nana:
"Too many times I asked "what causes this?" to and MD and got "I don't know".
You said it well, Nana. And if you are old enough as we are to see an old people specialist - he/ she will all tag it onto the "part of getting old" list.
The problem with that is that now kids have problems that already fit that "old" list.
Just got back grandchildren's AI tests. They have everything and more than the parents. So it is a good thing to start early, or as recommended by HG, to do AI before having children. Our 8 months old grandson has all his parents have and some extra.
ukcarry, sorry, I don't know what they put in her bath water in addition to the MSM she was taking.
Take care.
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One of my holistic MDS told me, You have a disadvantage in that you have a methylation defect and you're also up in years (I am 63), but don't let that dissuade you." I could have slugged him.
Yes, I will take the minerals with food. I was under the impression that liquid minerals should be taken away from food and minerals in tablet form with food. But nothing is cast in marble.
I didn't know it got that hot in Seattle, Gigi -- isn't that where you live? We are in Maryland and let me tell you, 105 degrees is sizzling.
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the jojoe... the zinc picolinate we use is from Moss Nutrition....Cardiovascular Research Ltd. 25 mg.
Must test for individual amounts and when to take.
I suggest your daughter get tested for individual products in the KPU protocol along with testing the multi mineral core mix designed specifically for KPU for better direction for her.
Also, I do not test to take Core or Zinc any longer now that I am done with AI. I am plannng on testing my daughter this weekend when she comes home...to see if she still tests energetically for it.
We will both do the KPU urine test again when she is done with AI, to see what our numbers are. It would not surprise me if we will eventually be free of KPU as things seem to be clearing for us in general.
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Just got my 14th bottle of drops--been doing AI without a break for well over a year.
The latest report shows 4 energetic blockades and 6 chemical subatances.
I started the new drops today, hoping I do OK with them in the heat of summer.
Best wishes to everyone! Nutmeg
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Just a warning: do not take zinc on your own. Zinc needs the supporting enzymes and more. Many of us test with AI with a defect in enzyme production. Look up your AI test, section 13.1. Zinc can do the opposite, i.e. carry metals where you do not want them. Read Klinghardt literature carefully before you extra dose with single minerals and base it on good energetic testing or lab work.
Better safe than sorry.
Take care.
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Good comment Gigi....I agree.
When I mentioned Zinc usage for my daughter...it was used with proper lab and energetic testing...for her.
Always a risk to follow someone elses protocol.
I give what has worked for us so possibly others can get a direction to explore, or support if going thru the same issues....not to have others follow exactly what we are doing and to blindly follow without knowing individually what is needed at the time.
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Because the BioPure products contain frequencies, I am wondering -- HG says not to do any other frequency work. If they contain the KMT or Rife frequencies, that could explain why I'm having a hard time with BP minerals.
Premier Research Products are also energized.
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Lex, Biopure products contain the ingredients listed. Nothing more, nothing less. I have used them for many years because I know DK does not promote a product or use it in his practice unless it is clean and has proven to work. He does not use a product if his patients do not benefit from it.
Maybe you know something I don't when you talk about added frequencies!!!!
AI in itself is a powerful act and if you overdo it by adding too many and too much of mobilizing products, that may be a part of your problem. There is a definite reason why AI recommend not to add much, but liquids. If you have been toxic for a long time and your body has been unable to regulate, it means that going slow is better. Detoxing is definitely a balancing act that is different for every person.
You always have a choice - stop doing AI or reduce it and/or stop adding extra products your body can't deal with yet. Only you can control that.
Hope things start working for you soon. It is difficult to comment without knowing exactly what you take and do.
Take care.
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I just noticed that for my first round AI documented items from 1.1 through 14.1, but the last letter they sent where they said I had not disregulations, they only showed results from 1.1-10.1.
Nana and LP, did that happen with you?
Lee
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In one of Dr. K's DVDs, he mentions that Rife frequencies are added to the cilantro and in the ART III DVDs he mentioned that the products have been energized.
I am not taking much of anything but did try the minerals and electrolytes. I take enzymes and betaine with meals. Trust me, I have dropped a lot of the things I was taking..
I ask a lot of questions because I'm also a practitioner and want to be able to be a good detective. This Lyme stuff has humbled me greatly and I bow to you,Gigi, for sharing your journey with all of us.
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Lee - I am away and do not have my "end" test results with me but mine did not include everything that the first test did.
Only things that still show dysregulation, even if they went from red to green but not still in the "perfect" range, those are the ones that are listed.
If it's not there, I think it's same to assume it was cleared (even if it takes time to work all of it out).
Lex - check the dates on the DVDs about cilantro. Things change as new things are learned. Cilantro is something I keep my hands off. If someone's body is loaded with mercury and you start pulling it from the brain..... not something I would want to do.
I was at the ART III seminar and I don't recall anything about products being energized but maybe I missed something. I would think it might have to say so on the bottle.
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I know that cilantro is a hard hitter and I have avoided it for years. Once was enough. As a matter of fact, I have avoided most things -- detox is something I was afraid to do because every dr. that put me on this or that caused backfires.
In the ART III dvds it mentions that neem is energized and I believe he said that the BioPure products are energized as are those from Premier Research Labs. Since I don't exactly know what "energized" means I thought I would bring it up and dig deeper hoping that someone has the answer.
Perhaps the interview with Mercola and DK is an old one (it's on the Web) where K. mentions that cilantro contains Rife frequencies. Since then DK uses the KMT frequencies. I have the machine with the 12 frequencies which I have not used since going on the AI drops. Even when I used it, I did so very little as all I got was more herxing.
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Dr. K did mention on several occasions at the most recent seminar, that the Biopure products are produced pure and with his specific instructions or direction, with some special attributes. I just received my tape from the conference, so I'll take not when I review it.
I do not recall specifically what he said, as it was vague, but it also did make me think it was either frequencies, or gems, or some sort of energy or intention that make the products very special and effective in his opinion. I seem to recall him saying something like special or unique many times, which did catch my attention. They seem to test well for most people.
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Dear Friends,
As you may or may not recall, I was told in April that I was done. I didn't agree. GiGi and I had some email traffic about what I was taking at the time, and found that the Intrisic Factor in one of my supplements for methylation (detoxing) could throw off the results.
So, I waited (impatiently) for a couple of months to pass and sent in a new sample.
It was not a pleasant couple of months, either. I had seizures, high temperature, a migraine that had me screaming in pain (never had one that bad!!), and other problems.
And, I finally investigated the one tooth with a root canal in it, found it was defectively treated, and had it pulled and the cavitation handled.
I recently got the results from AI--I'm not done. I received Round # 13 drops, and am now taking them.
And, due to metals issues and inadvertently giving myself more with the brand of chlorella I was taking, I'm now getting some EDTA chelation intravenously. I actually found a doctor in my area who trained under Dr. K!!!
More news as I get it.....
Best,
Cass A
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Cass A,
Thanks for sharing your news as this info will be helpful for many on this thread. Glad you are now getting to the "root" of things. I do hope your other issues begin clearing!
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Question re parasites -- I know I have them. When I eat fruit, they are very happy but I am not. How soon into AI is it advisable to clear parasites?
Cass A, nothing like starting over with a cleaner slate. Success to you.
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I would also like to know the answer to Lex's parasite question.
And I have another to add: Is it OK to take concentrated oils while on the drops, eg. salmon oil, evening primrose, etc.
Thanks
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about the bottel you get, I figured out how to best open it: First, just press your thumb against the hard plastic top, the white one to get it off, it does not unscrew, just push it.
Second, no scissors to snip off the plastic tip of the inside plastic tip. There is a recession into which you have to press a needle, or the needle end of a safety pin. That is enough to make a small hole.
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From my experience, the less killing done while on the drops, the better. And the less, unnatural substances taken, the better for your body to regulate with the drops. Also to only take the essential supplements for best results.
That being said...if you have a major parasitic condition...in the blood tissues organs along with digestive tract(we all have parasites, but some have an overabundance)you would benefit from treatment...Dr. K does start here with severely parasitic patients and uses drugs. Herbs will not kill them all.
I will always remember his analagy of when to treat with big time drugs or not..."when the house is on fire, call the fire dept and hose down the house. YOU may loose some prescious things or damage some things that will need repair in your house, but you will save the house and most of its contents if you do this in time. You will live, although repair will most likely take time."
"If only a pot on the stove is on fire, use a more directed "fire extinguisher" to stop the smaller blaze so other items in the house will not be ruined instead of hosing down the entire house for the small flame. Only minor clean up needed."
My opinion, if it was major, with the guidance of a doctor, I would take the anti parasitic drug that tests for you with a script. And then go off the drops until after treatment. Othewise you may not regulate with the drugs. There will be clean up required, then start the AI again.
But another idea, if your condition is not major, would be to use the antiparasitic herbs for a month to see if you get intestinal, stomach, and digestive relief. If that is where you main parasite issues are.
I did take humaworm, which has these herbs, for a month in the beginning of doing the AI as I only learned of parasites at that time. I was following the advice of others I respect, and did get noticeable relief.
I did not have major parasitic symptoms, only digestive symptoms, which improved for me while taking that month of herbs. I could actually see the parasites that were eliminated in the toilet water. This was very educational for me! I became a believer in parasites overnight!
Not saying that I only had or have intestinal parasite, but they seemed to be living in harmony for me during my AI treatment, expecially after the humaworm and the first rounds of drops. Now things are rebalancing again naturally after my AI is done. All things now seem to move in a cycle...sometimes metals, sometimes parasite, sometimes toxins...I am still regulating but very manageable with occasional binders and organ support.
I thought the herbs was less of a problem for me to take while doing the AI. There are also spices that can be added to your food that keep the population down in the digestive system. I always add spices by habit now. Many posts about this on lymenet related to parasites. Also check curezone. This helped me, but Humaworm and spices do not kill ALL the parasites.
Killing has consequences and clean up is essential when doing this.
I do not recommend to do too much...but the parasite issue is very individually related to how bad your situation is. Dr. K does see many of his severely ill patients as having a major parasitic infection...along with the viruses, fungus, chemicals and heavy metals...If you have one, you have the others residing together. If you work on one of these issues big time...the others will over compensate and take over the terrain, so its a constant balancing act.
So this is why you do not want to do too much, as your body is already starting to accept a new balance with the AI. There is no hard rule of when to do the parasite treatment...unless you find it first and start there, which would be optimal in most situations with extreme parasite infection.
Most of us that have done the AI for a length of time find that our bodies are more ready to handle an additional therapy, finally our immune systems are functioning well....things work better and faster after AI regulation.
I recommend getting tested to see if parasite killing is YOUR priority at this time. Don't just go by what others are doing...its your precious body and your unique set of issues!
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Thejoje....Natural oils are ok to take...any natural food substance is ok with the drops...I would test if you are getting good at that.
I always asked myself, is this supplement considered a food or not...that helped me when deciding what to take. Or if it is a mineral I am lacking I take it with food. I do not just follow a protocol any longer...but test individually avery few days to see what I am in need for if my body tells me something is off.
I found the longer I was on AI, the more regulations I experienced and the less was needed on a regular basis.
Make sure you are absorbing it and able to break down the capsules with enzymes. I was not originally and needed to stop many good things until my digestion and absorption started to work properly. I used to need enzymes with meals...now no longer need them.
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Lp, How does one know if he/she is breaking down capsules or not--or if one is in need of digestive enzymes?
I am expecting round 2 and already have experienced much digestive relief. My intestines used to be so sore in the morning upon waking. No more.
(No more constipation either--all this with just the first round!)
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Thanks for the insights. I'm a practitioner and in the past years have done a number of parasite cleanses. My digestion works fine and elimination is great.
I got back my hair analysis from Eidon and while I was glad to see no lead and low mercury, aluminum is high and arsenic borderline. So I will supplement with the minerals suggested but start slowly. I've been taking the BioPure minerals with meals and that seems to work much better than on an empty stomach.
]Am frustrated about my thyroid results (blood test). The TSH is so low and not budging and while I make enough T4 the T3 uptake is just not cutting the mustard.
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Metals love to sit on the thyroid - maybe just give it some time.
Thejoje - if elimination is working and you have already had digestive ease, maybe digestive enzymes aren't needed.
A tsp of raw apple cider vinegar in water before meals can help make your own enzymes get going.
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Thanka, NanaD. I will try the vinegar suggestion.
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I have a question. My kids and I are on round 5 of the drops, but my husband just started round 1. He is not "sick" at all in terms of outward symptoms, but I told him he should try this since he has amalgams and plans to get them out.
My question is that he has been "regular" all of his life and goes 2-3x/day like clockwork (so jealous!) and now after starting the drops he is extremely constipated and frustrated about it.
I told him to drink prune juice and eat apples...which he did. Haven't asked him how he is today, but will when he gets home.
Did any of you experience this on round 1? I thought I remember most of you saying the opposite that finally your constipation went away for the rirst time in your life...
Just curious. Thanks
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I had constipation my whole life, and after a few rounds I finally became regular...this was one of my first signs that I was regulating something that made me very happy, even if I did not get another regulation! Intestinal parasites also did not help my situation previously.
A change is obviously happening in his system...so I would recommend up-ing his intake of good fibrous veggies...Make your meals mostly some steamed veggies and less protein. Some brown rice or another good whole grain. Or make a smoothie type drink with blended kale, spinach, apple, flax seeds or veggie powder and see if he gets a change. And do not forget hydration with good water and mineral water. He may also need some electrolytes added daily so his cells absorb the fluid...many posts here about water alone not being enough.
If you are feeding him chlorella or binders for the first time, this could cause constipation in some who were once regular. Just starting out, he may not need binders...and maybe not at all if he is not ill.
Also, someone suggested to me to try at night, Peter Gillians magnesium/calcium product called Natural Calm...this helped as well to wake without constipation. I used this off and on for a few months at night when it was bad. Others may have some good suggestions.
In general I am now very regular...this is like a miracle to me...but occasionally I have had a few minor bouts with constipation when metals seem to be moving after AI...I am still regulating but 95% better in that area!
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the jojoe,
Many people do not feel well in the stomach with some nausea when taking supplements in the form of capsules or pills, and need to take them in liquid form...this is sometimes a sign that your natural enzyme production is not functioning well, so the food is not broken down properly for digestion. Also stools show that food sometimes comes out looking undigested or not broken down properly. This would be a sign of the body not recognizing what we consume.
Some people have been adding enzymes after each meal before regulating with AI. This was my case, and especially with the fish oils...I would belch, and feel as though I was not absorbing them. My daughter would actually "throw up" the supplements into her throat...(sorry for graphics)I would even see whole capsules in my stools!
You will know what I am talking about if this is your situation.
Love Nana's suggestion of AC vinegar...this has been a help for me through many situations that occurred while doing the AI. Good to add to your basket!
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Thanks LP - I will try the things you suggested for him...great idea about smoothies, etc.
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I am including gIGI'S explanation which I saw on another thread re binders:
It's usually a good idea to take binders away from food on an empty stomach, or as one theory proposes you could take it 1/2 hour before eating then it will be in your small intestines by the time bile is released and they'll be mixed together(the bile holds heavy metals and toxins the liver has just removed). Then another time to take it would be right before going to bed on an empty stomach or you could take it in the middle of the night if you wake up to pee or something anyway. That gives it a chance to move through and coat your gut, then metals present in the blood that passes through the digestive membranes can bind to the binder (pectin, chlorella).
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Icon 1 posted 07-03-2009 07:02 PM Profile for GiGi Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote Pryorka explained it beautifully. I like the way Dr. K. describes neurotoxins, all neurotoxins and how they move through the system. I will link my favorite of his writings below. Many of the mobilized toxins are reabsorbed by the many nerve endings lining the intestinal wall and colon, and this in effect is really what is making us ill. Many of the toxins never leave unless we do something, a lot of something about it.
The body is doing its detox work when we are supposed to be asleep and are not busy with other activities. Most gallbladder attacks happen late in the evening, and if you tend to wake up in the middle of the night, your liver is probably in overdrive trying its best to dispose of some of the toxins. Take a look at the biological clock linked below.
The effect of the apple pectin is noticable in that after you evacuate, there is hardly any need for toilet paper. The film of the pectin seems to wrap around the stool and things just sort of slide out leaving little or no residue to wipe. I visualize the same thing happening further up the tract not leaving much for the leaky gut to do its thing.
After doing AI, I noticed that many are allergic to corn (DNA level), and the loose pectin is often mixed with corn. So make sure you are not allergic (without any obvious noticable symptoms) to corn. I buy the Life Extension in 8 oz containers and use them in everything from fruit mousses to the fanciest deserts. But regularly for sure in an apple I grind in a 3 cup Black & Decker blender (I use this thing at least 3 times a day - from chopping apples to chopping onions to chopping potatoes for potato pancakes!). I add a couple teaspoons of the apple pectin to it. You can put in some green juince to make the grinding quicker and add the pectin.
All the other binders I used to take before going to bed: Apple Pectin, Zeolite, Chitosan, Charcoal, Clay, Cholestyramine, Betasitosterol, Glycine, whatever tests good with tensor.
My definite favorite has become Biologo Detox (only available in Austria), because it covers all levels of detox including emotional. Since my husband has been taking the AI drops, he tests for Biologo Detox literally every day; not the first 3-4 rounds, but now that we are on round #7. The fur is really flying! since the allergies are being corrected.
The after-care following mobilizing and killing agents is for certain the most neglected part of detoxing, and any time you do not feel good after a procedure or a couple hours later, test your binding agents because you can really help yourself to feel better very quickly. I keep mine in a separate basket (from nutritional support supplements or killing agents and metal and chemical mobilizers) and in one two three I know which is the dominant toxin ready to leave. It's nice to have at least an idea what is going on in the body. But to do that on our own, without a practitioner, we learned tensor testing.
Cheryl, I don't use capsules because I do not want to swallow capsules any longer. A teaspoon or two mixed into some good food is so much easier. And a lot less money. I also put the pectin in shakes of all sorts! Along with the Galactose, BetaGlucan, and Show me the Whey and other protein drinks.
I will post the links later - have to run to get to our grandson's birthday dinner now!
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posted 06 April, 2007 06:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find what's keeping you awake or waking you up, it helps to learn about our Biological Clock.
1-3 AM Liver 3-5 AM Lungs 5-7 AM Large Intestine 7-9 AM Stomach 9-11 AM Pancreas 11 AM - 1 PM Heart 1-3 PM Small Intestine 3-5 PM Bladder 5-7 PM Kidneys 7-9 PM Circulatory System 9-11 PM Endocrine System 11 PM - 1 AM Gall Bladder
posted 06 April, 2007 06:54 PM
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I recently came off antibiotics for lyme, with a big decrease in neuro symptoms, so I know we got rid of a lot of the lyme bugs. But, as I've come off, I am having a lot of phlegm and coughing and sneezing. I have had tests done that show I am not properly making antibodies to strep pneumonia, and it is all around the environment, and probably inside me.
All this makes me think that the phlegm/coughing/sneezing is from strep pneumonia or a similar bacteria I am not properly taking care of inside me.
I did just recently start the AI treatments, and am hoping if AI helps people properly recognize and process food and heavy metals, it can do the same for strep pneumonia and other bacteria. Does anyone have any experience with AI having this result, or heard that it can? (If not, some use IVIG for this, but was hoping AI could do it.)
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I got off the gluten around the time I started AI as certain doctors believe that when you have Hashimoto's all gluten should be stopped.
A week ago I started introducing it -- breadcrumbs on fish two times. This morning I got a craving for Ezekiel bread but am thinking that it's the bugs that want it, not me. My energy level has plummeted. I am waiting for Round 3 to arrive. I've never felt so clobbered.
Wanted to just see if body could handle the gluten but I think it's best to just stop it again. I know AI suggests eating the foods that have given us trouble.
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It may take awhile before you can eat gluten. I started AI in January of 2008 and finished this April. I still cannot eat a lot of wheat or gluten.
Energy testing shows the gut is over 90% healed and probably eating gluten is 90% safe for me, but I am going to avoid it awhile longer.
AI showed an allergy to soy for me, also, and while I eat little of it, I can handle soy without problem. Most of my other food allergies seem to have cleared and I can eat things like eggs and dairy with no problem now, but I don't eat a lot of them.
Hang in there. I know that AI was very hard on me, but you will get through it and see improvements. I rode my bike 25 minutes yesterday and then walked last night in the 90 degree heat and humidity. Could not have done that even one month ago.
Peace. Lee
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Great news Lee! So encouraging to others who have it tough!
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Still unclear on MSM. If MSM passes the blood brain barrier and makes cells more permeable isn't it possible that like cilantro it could move mercury or heavy metals into the brain?
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Another question--this one about chlorella. Does it only work in the digestive tract or as it is digested itself (and I know it is hard to digest) does it get into the blood and mop up toxins like heavy metals?
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Lee, my understanding of what MSM is and does - replenishes much needed sulfur to the cells. It does cross the blood brain barrier but isn't what you might call a heavy metal chelator. It is needed for detoxification but doesn't actually grab heavy metals.
I've heard that often when someone undergoes chelation therapy it can be unsuccessful if there are low sulfur stores. The cells grab up all the chelating agent because they need the sulfur.
Chlorella does not just work in the digestive tract. Google Dr K chlorella and you will find a wealth of information on the benefits of it.
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Re sulfur -- a good idea to eat a fair amount of beans and eggs if possible. I recently got back my hair analysis and Eidon suggested two tablespoons of sulfur before bed.
Premier Research Labs sells Medi Amino Bean which is a super food -- it's great used as a soup. One can put it some of their tomato concentrate for potassium and some nutritional flakes for Bs -- a great way to get nutrients without taking a capsule.
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Thanks for the information. Someone else told me he only uses MSM for dental work, which led me to believe it is a heavy metal chelator and a lot of sites about mercury detoxification say it will chelate mercury. It's hard to know!
At any rate my hair test didn't show low for sulfur, but I do make sure I eat lots of organic foods with sulfur in them.
About chlorella:
Quote from Dr. K "For example, the alga chlorella is ideal for removing virtually all toxic metals from the gut but has too little effect on mercury stored in the brain." 2007
The exception might be if one use the nanosized chlorella in the Biopure matrix metals.
I know that chlorella is nutritious and has many wonderful qualities but it sounds like regular chlorella only works in the gut.
In a video from 2008 Dr. K does say that it is helpful to try and remove the other metals first and that cilantro is better for other metals than for detoxing mercury (I admit I am afraid of cilantro), but I don't know how you would know which metals you are removing unless you did some constant testing.
Also seems like Dr. K like all doctors is constantly changing the protocol and it is hard to keep up with new details.
And others like Andy Cutler would totaly disagree with using MSM or chlorella or cilantro at all for heavy metal detox. I am not saying Dr. K is wrong--just others have different opinions and it is hard to sort through them all.
Guess I will assume the metals will come out naturally and I will continue with nanozeolite, apple pectin, activated charcoal, and chlorella.
I can tell by more sweating and sticky hair that I am releasing some sort of toxins right now! Biotensor wants chlorella, but not more than 5 biopure tablets at a time, so I think I am releasing very slowly.
Thanks for the info.
Lee
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