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A friend just offered to do Bowen Therapy for me, for free - she's just learning, and needs practice patients- Does anyone know if Bowen Therapy would be ok with Allergie Immun? I've finished 5 rounds. I won't do it if it might be a problem, but if it would be complementary then I'd not turn down a chance for free body work
Anyone?
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I am not very familiar with Bowen therapy, though it was very much talked about a number of years ago. So I don't understand the concept.
If the therapy releases toxins, it may be too much to handle. Depending on how much toxin you are still holding (my guess, from your posts, still quite a bit) and only having done bottle #5, I would not push it. Possibly you are still reacting to some of the chemical substances and other blockages at this early stage of AI, and it may not be quite the time to do more mobilizing.
You will probably find out quickly if you try it. From my experience, I would not do it that early. I don't think it interfers with AI, but it may mobilize too much for your body to handle.
It also depends how effective and well trained the brandnew therapist is. It is probably okay for a fairly well person to be the guinea-pig, but not if you are still under the weather a bit too much.
Best wishes!
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Sometimes free things cost a lot.
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I did have some 'free' Bowen therapy some years ago from someone also learning and wanting to practise. I was already ill then.
It is very gentle and not likely to produce dramatic reactions: infact I did not have a big reaction of any sort to it, good or bad, but of course, we are all different.
I also know someone else who is an experienced Bowen therapist and is very enthusiastic about it.
Perhaps you could try one session and then judge whether you want to continue,
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My health isn't as bad as it was right now - I've improved quite a bit It's hard to put my finger on what - I think the brain fog has lifted quite a bit actually- that was my biggest frustration that led me to do AI. IT was quite severe and debilitating. It's so much better now - I don't often have whole days that are foggy - it's usually just if I'm tired. SO that is good
One thing tho - I've started gaining weight. I know that some people have gained weight at the beginning - I'm getting nervous about it tho - I've gained more than 15 lbs now. This isn't normal for me at all. I'd been carrying a little extra baby weight in the last few years, but it was slowly coming off - I've not gained outside of pregnancy before, just had trouble losing it after.
I'm wondering if this is "normal" for AI? (continuing weight gain I mean) It sounded like some people gained a little in the beginning, but then leveled out and lost it later in the treatment? How long did it take until the weight left? I've never gained weight this quickly other than pregnancy - and I'm definitely not pregnant (husband had a vasectomy, and I'm having regular periods)
I'm getting more sleep in the past month after over a decade of being up at night lots with my little ones - I had thought that would help me lose weight, not add more. I've gained 10 lbs in the past month. When a friend of mine night weaned, she started losing weight right away, so it was a bummer to gain. I know our bodies are all so different, so I should know better than to have any expectations, but it's still disappointing.
I wondered if I was retaining water? My lower back started hurting more when I started AI - maybe it's kidneys?
I'm testing the pekana remedies using a pendulum, and taking them accordingly.
I'm also taking chlorella ( the good kind )
We have had quite a delay with this round, as one of my kids' drops didn't arrive with the others, and I ended up waiting to send in all our samples until his drops had arrived, to keep us all on the same schedule - it's too hard to keep track of everyone if we're on different schedules, and shipping would be a PITA. I"m feeling a bit impatient now for the next round to arrive. The last couple of rounds have been much much easier on me tho - I've hardly had any times where a nap was non-negotiable - the first 2-3 rounds had me napping almost every day, which was tricky with 5 kids. I haven't had any of the wild and wacky detox symptoms others have described either. I did laugh tho at the note that came with the 5th round that said that I was probably thinking nothing was happening right about now. I wasn't worried about it, but it was true that it did feel a bit slow. I do trust the process tho, so it's all good.
my 8 year old has been a total maniac lately tho (the whole family is doing the drops) He's been really really hyper alot, and has been a bit OCD with things like routines. I tested him for the pekana remedies today tho, and he's been really mellow all morning since then. I definitely feel a shift with the pekana remedies.
My teenager is doing really really really well - she's in a great head space / mood. Much more even keel than ever before. A lot of old resentment /anger has gone.
My 4 year old is sleeping wonderfully. Tho she complains of stomach aches fairly often, and leg cramps - tho she's growing really fast right now, so that's not a huge shock. She asks for cal/mag too.
My 2 year old is still waking in the wee hours, tho not every night. It's a bit later now too - used to be 3 am, now it's between 4 and 6 am - which is better.
My husband doesn't notice much so far on the drops, other than being able to eat some foods he couldn't before, but he's also a pretty strong healthy person.
My 10 year old - I haven't noticed much change. He's still got a pretty loud temper, and tends to be pretty unmotivated. He has a lovely side too of course - I'm talking symptoms.
I guess that's about it - this post feels a bit rambly, but I don't have time to go back and edit, so I'll leave it as is.
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Dear Skiesmama and All,
First--to Skiesmama--I have found that the most workable handling for weight problems is the concept in the Zone diet. It doesn't tell you what to eat or not eat, but rather helps you make good choices among the things you like in the right balance.
Dr. Barry Sears research on this many years ago is now being vindicated by the latest data on carbohydrates. I recommend his book, Mastering the Zone. If you want all the biological background of why it works, Enter the Zone is the book for you!
The website is enterthezone.com
An update on AI and other things going on here:
I tried the Quantum Research Labs clay on the detox key points (hands and feet) and DEFINITELY am more able to think clearly and keep on task for a useful period of time! Whoo hoo!!!
With one treatment, my eyesight changed for the better (got more clear) as I was doing it.
Thanks to Lex for recommending it and helping me to get going with it!
I am using time release B 6 now to control the nocturnal seizures, and haven't had one since I started using that every night.
I'm still doing many detox things: chlorella, BioRay NDF Plus and complementary BioRay producs, a fiber drink with Bentonite clay and pectin in it, detox footpads at night.
I just sent off my sample at the end of Round #15.
I am still taking the KPU supplements daily. I tested myself for zinc sufficiency recently--still not in the ballpark. Ugh.
Oh--I recommend the Coconut Creme from Tropical Traditions! It's 70% coconut oil, tastes GREAT!!! I eat it every morning right out of the jar with a spoon!!! Also good on toast, etc.
Best to all,
Cass A
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All nice to hear. Best wishes to all.
Take care.
P.S. If all the Europeans like us had to go thru that many bottles as most of us here, the price would have to double. There is definitely something very wrong with the way we live here and I haven't figured it all out. Lifestyle? Exposure? Foods?
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All 3 I suspect. Many European countries have banned wireless internet in schools and public libraries. Think that will ever happen here? HA. How many countries will not buy our GMO foods?
But.... the US brings in plenty of pesticide, insecticide and chemically soaked produce.
I have wireless and shut it off at night. Even with it on I have extremely low EMF readings here in the woods.
I met some folks at a "lyme" support meeting once a long time ago. Several of the women had lyme and breast cancer. They all live within a 1/2 mile of the same cell tower.
I think the priorities are a little messed up in this country - at least the priorities of big business.
The dollar over human well-being any day - generally speaking. There are exceptions. Ray Anderson comes to mind. Was an industrial engineer and started thinking about the legacy he was leaving behind for his grandchildren by putting petroleum waste products in landfills. He has turned his "big business around". It can be done.
At any rate, AI would be worth it at twice the price.
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Who can give me their website? I want to email them.
Is it a good idea that I stop abx and do the AI treatment for a few month to clean my boday then back to abx?
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Well, I've only been to the USA once in my life, so I can't blame it for my number of rounds [currently awaiting round 12, with plenty of errors still on last evaluation]!
My lifestyle and food has been well above average, in terms of being healthy, all my life and I have never lived in a big city [except, ironically, Munich in Germany for 6 months!].
I can only think for me it must be a complex mixture of genetic predisposition and exposure.
Is anyone here still on AI therapy after 20 rounds or similar?
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Cass A, it was good to hear of your progress and especially that you have stopped having the seizures since you started the B6.
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Dear ukcarry,
Thanks for the validation! I must admit that it was a combination of factors. First, due to having kept a symptom and treatment log, I was able to figure out the feeling I got just before the seizure. This is called an "aura." Then, when awake, I'm able to give myself B 6, which turns the aura off.
Unfortunately, when I'm asleep, I can't tell that I need B 6. Ugh. So, I've been having (rarely) seizures while sleeping. We found a time release B 6 product, and I've had no recurrence of seizures since I've been taking it--a bit over a month.
However, I have in the past had a year with only one seizure episode, so I've been searching my diaries to find out what had changed recently, as I've had seizures 5 times this year! And, they've been occurring closer together!
In doing more research here on Lymenet, I found that I was taking B 12 in the past when I had no seizures for 10-11 months, and I had recently stopped taking any.
So, I started up with B 12 again last night.
The other hopeful part is that I've had much fewer of the "aura" occurrences since starting with the B 6 time release. And, also, doing the QRL clay packs, etc., as I reported in my most recent post.
As part of my research here on Lymenet, I found an article that Keebler had posted about alternative treatments for seizures that talks extensively about Vitamin B 6-dependent seizures!!! These apparently show up usually in newborns--B 6 turns off the seizures immediately! And, the article discusses the use of B 6 in adults with seizures, also.
Again and again, I am soooo very grateful for the existence of Lymenet!!!!!!!
Best to you all, my friends!
Love,
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That's most interesting, Cass A and thank you for the explanation. I hope the combination of B12 and Time release B6 keeps the seizures away for good now [and good news: they're not even expensive supplements!],
I've always had plantar warts on my feet since I was a little girl - tons and tons actually, they would come and go tho. I've had periods as an adult where there were none, but right now I have quite a few.
In the past few months tho since starting AI everyone in the whole family is just busting with warts! This morning I was looking at my 4 year old's foot as she had a small cut, and discovered that both of her feet are *covered* in plantars warts! I didn't count, but I'm going ot guess that there are at least 20 on each foot! She also has regular warts on her hands. My boys have them in weird places, like on a knee, or the top of the foot.
I wondered if this was a detox of sorts - warts are viral right? Could it be the virus leaving their body?
Just curious if anyone else has experience this - I know that weird skin stuff is common - I just haven't heard any mention of warts.
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Heather - I used to have 4 REALLY painful plantar warts. All but one has gone. I thought they were more of a fungal thing than viral but I'm not really sure.
Does sound something is leaving.
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Since round 1 of the AI, the treatment totally cured my decades-old problem of constipation.
Lately, however, I have been adding 1-2 more mineral pills per day to my regime (Comprehensive Minerals by CRL), and have noticed that the constipation is becomming an issue again.
When I go off the minerals, all is well.
I thought that maybe the calcium was the culprit, but there is a 1 to 1 ratio of calcium to Mg in these minerals, and they are at a pretty low dosage -- 250mg of each.
There are also about 10 other minerals in each pill - all at very low doses.
Does anyone have a similar issue?
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Family breaking out in warts -- probably what is happening are generations of viral infections finally getting an outlet.
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Once the metals are starting to be mobilized when the immune system is waking up, it is very common that the other "occupants" are starting to show up. We are already deep into supporting fungal detox which was brought about by the metal dumping. AI turned the immune system on and this is part of the consequences of the body now cleaning house. But you need to support it.
Binders binders binders - and if you can learn to test or find someone who can test you, it helps a lot.
If you are not done with the AI, changes happen, sometimes better, sometimes symptom gone and then returning, that is not seldom. There are numerous fillers in supplements that are not specifically identified and that may cause a reaction of some sort. If you have really been sick for some time, it will take a lot more rounds before all can be found and corrected.
Try to go on their Forum and translate some of the write-ins from people who are doing the therapy or translate some of the AI Team answers. It helps to understand the therapy better.
Take care.
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Gigi, what is the process for the Regu-Immune therapy? The website doesn't seem to explain it very well. From what I gather, you order the test and the therapy on the website, then they send you a test kit with which you send them some blood and/or saliva. According to the test results, they send you some drops. How does it work from there? I've read on this thread that there are several rounds of drops required. How does that work? Are you tested after each round to determine the next round?
What about support from the provider? How are you guided through the process? Is there someone to whom questions can be directed? Who provides advice such as that which you provided in your previous post about binders, detoxing, etc.? How is your progress monitored?
I want to undergo this therapy, but I'm concerned about the process being so cumbersome due to language and cultural barriers, distance, time zones, support issues, general lack of communication, etc., that it negates its entire value. International telephone calls are very expensive. Is there an American rep?
Am I getting concerned over nothing? How does the whole thing work?
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Should we completely done all the abx or herb treatment and then go to AI drop or stop abx or herb for a while then do the AI and go back?
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I don't believe he recommends abx unless there is an acute infection or life threatening situation. Two or three posts up - Gigi wrote this and it is a good idea:
"Try to go on their Forum and translate some of the write-ins from people who are doing the therapy or translate some of the AI Team answers. It helps to understand the therapy better."
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Chaps, if you take the time to read portions of this thread, you will find many of the answers. Look at their list of participating therapists/ND's/ MD's - maybe you will find someone there to answer your questions. Other than that I still have not managed to get through all the different links on the AI website. The info is endless. Everyone here will help sharing some of their experience, but you will still have to do some of your own legwork. If you find a practitioner who uses this therapy in practice, I don't think they would guide you through the therapy free of charge. So it is a good idea to learn some of the basics of the detox that is bound to start once the immune system is back in charge.
To answer Feelbetter: I don't think you will be fully successful with abx and/or herbs, unless you eliminate the dysregulations/allergies that are holding most people back from actually getting better or well.
One should really take the time to read portions of this thread and/or translate some of the Forum, the website info, etc.
Take care and hope everyone is making good progress. The longer you have been ill, the longer it takes on AI. The best part is that the price for the therapy stays the same. All you have to do is learn to deal with it, learn to support detoxing, and I for one am still soooooo grateful that this therapy exists at all.
Take care again.
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The entire thread is so vast I was hoping to get a simplified assessment from a usability standpoint.
It seems from what I've read thus far that it's a real pain-in-the-butt with the language barrier, the lack of accessibility, and all the guesswork, but maybe worth the trouble?
It's really puzzling that this organization doesn't have an English-speaking liaison for international (American) customers in light of the fact that a high percentage of people in Germany speak English.
Sorry, I know it's not your fault. I'm just being whiny today, it's one of those days.
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If I can chime in here - at the very beginning of this thread (maybe first few pages). There was a link posted that allows the ENTIRE site to be read in English - translated from German to Spanish to English I believe.
I bookmarked the thread but it does not seem to work when I forward it to someone. I am still able to use it to read their forum and all the responses from AI.
It has been very informative regarding chronic disease, allergies, fibro, and an endless list of topics.
If you find the link, see if it will work for you.
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I'm curious..42 pages of ihfo on this thread. 1,000+ posts. Up for 2 years now almost. Anyone consider themselves cured yet after all this time?
I'm shocked how few I've read actually completed treatment after such a long time period. I get concerned it's a road with no endpoint, but if somewhere on the road = 80-90% improved health, then that's all good.
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To GIGI: So are you free of lyme now or still have some mild symptom?
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seek - no one ever said it was an easy treatment. I'm sure many have dropped along the wayside if it got tough but there are many hundreds of people (or more) doing the therapy that are not on lymenet. I know of at least 8 myself that are doing AI and never heard of LN.
So, what you read on this thread is a small portion.
You ask if anyone considers themselves cured. Do you mean cured of lyme? I no longer had lyme when I began AI but being free of the things that allowed lyme to take over is a different story.
I have been in heavy detox mode for a year and it was only due to AI that I was even able to begin detoxing.
Detoxing will always be a part of life for those who wish to stay well.
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Seek, "cured" of what? Feelbetter, No, I do not have any symptoms and I don't have Lyme. Getting rid of toxic metals is not painful. More like having worked too many ours in the garden and sore muscles that come and go. That is mainly due to the lead (pb) that is stored in the long bones and moving out, gradually.
If you read the thread, you will learn that completing AI does not mean you are cured or have gotten out all the toxins you accumulated over a lifetime It also has nothing to do with curing a specific disease. Finishing AI means that all the errors/ dysregulations that have been found in the DNA have been corrected. When that finally happens, the immune system starts to function again and detoxing can take place. If the body were to detox all the toxins instantly, our organs would not be able to handle the flood. Gradually they leave, but it still means you watch out and support that none of it gets stuck again and reabsorbed as often happens with certain toxins. I am sure you are aware of this.
I would guess that most people on Lymenet are not dealing with the actual Lyme after years of abx, but mainly with the neurotoxins they leave behind and of course the collection of debris and dental toxins that most people accumulate when the body system is no longer able to handle them. Dead cells do not regenerate overnight - it takes time. I am always trying to picture where all the magnesium stearate is hiding that is in all the supplements we have been taking.
I have not had to deal with Lyme in many years, but merely dumping the metals and that for me is not a bad experience. I know it is happening, and I am glad for it, because I do not have to face them again. To me they caused the toxic terrain where Lyme was able to get a foothold in the first place. Not the other way around.
As Nana said, I think we are at a point where unless we are in an ongoing detox mode, we will be in danger of catching something we would rather not have. The dysregulations/allergies don't go away by themselves. Only a weakened immune system got us to fall flat. Many people are infected, yet do not get ill as many that post here. I was fortunate enough to have a doctor who helped me lighten the load (infections, dental infections, some metals, some chemicals, parasites, etc. early on into Lyme, and that helped me to overcome the disease a long time ago. AI for me is a matter of cleaning up the remaining heavy metals and dental toxins and of course supporting my husband while he is having a tougher time with all. Lyme for him is also long gone. Like most here, he was allergic to all major foods, metals, fungi/mold and unloading all of this is quite a chore. Luckily I did not have any food allergies and therefore no leaky gut problems and malabsorption which caused problems for many until they started and kept going with AI.
For me it was the best thing I ever did and wish I had known about it when I first came down with Lyme. It's a good thing we have a choice. So hope that you make the right one.
Take care.
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Chaps, the process doesn't really need to be cumbersome and if you do need to check something with Herr Grundmeyer during the therapy, usually someone will help out with translation.
So far as how the pocedure works: you send off a saliva sample or order their test kit and send the sample that way; you get detailed results and if you decide then to do the therapy, the cost of the test is deducted from the price of the AI therapy.
You are sent round 1 drops, take them three times a day for 2 weeks and then send another saliva sample, either immediately [given the delay in post between USA and Germany] or after 1-2 weeks.
You will receive abbreviated results and your round 2 drops....and so the process continues until your results show no further dysregulations/blockages. This may mean 3 rounds or may mean 23, for example. No extra charge is made for many rounds of drops except for postage reimbursement.
During the therapy it is better to concentrate on helping your body to eliminate [eg with 'binders' and minerals] rather than to overload the body with antimicrobials and 'killing' treatments. Antibiotics especially are not a good idea during AI treatment unless you need them for an acute trouble.
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ukcarry, you are a genius for spelling this out so clearly for Chaps. I am going to keep a copy in case you are not around the next time someone asks.
Thanks and take care.
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Checking in with my friends! I have completed the AI now for many months and am doing fantastic! Want to encourage those starting on the road to persevere, as it is well worth it!
A comment on the WART question on an earlier post. My daughter had many warts appear while on treatment, but had them off and on prior to starting AI. Now all are gone. They were pretty severe on her feet, (swimmers get those regularly), and one large ugly one on her hand. Now clear. She is still on AI.
I had one appear on my finger joint near the end of my AI therapy, in the exact place I had a scar from a wart in my youth! Interesting! It went away after a few weeks! I find it interesting how things come and go from past issues, revisiting them. Not pleasant experiences, but great to know they are now gone! Glad I went through it all!
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Please note that this link will translate all sections of the AI website including the Forum and responses given on the Forum by HG.
There is a lot of good information on the whole website. Wish I had more time. My husband still spilling out metals by the ton! And now also the fungi and mold.
If you test energetically for Vitamin A, consider it a viral flair caused by release of neurotoxins, mainly the metals. It usually does not last long - a day or so. It's always good to remember that all these invaders have set up housekeeping in us together. When one is forced out, the others are departing also. Metals, fungi with viral remnants in between.
Have a beautiful Sunday!
P.S. I learned years ago from Dr.K. and through my own experience that toxic metals often move to the feet (specific weight/gravity) or hands, or reproductive area low point - (men / prostate) and I am not surprised that viral warts and plantar warts are often in that area too. Meridians all end in hands and feet and where will toxins and "friends" go from there if not pushed out by some other means. Just trying to make some sense out of this.
Forgot, yes, the metals also move to the lower jaw! It is another favorite point and one reason why so many problems originate in the mouth. The bugs go where the metals destroyed the terrain and blood circulation/oxygen is not a problem for them. They are smarter than most dentists.
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Thanks Carry for the explanation. I didn't see it until just now have been incapacitated for a few days (see "What to Do About Hemorrhoids" thread).
I am eager to do the AI therapy. I am also eager to getting the amalgams out of my mouth as I have a lot of them.
I know that I should complete the AI first, then remove the amalgams, but there's a problem in waiting for AI to be completed. Three, maybe four of the teeth with amalgams are crowns with amalgam buildups. There is also some decay on these teeth and if I wait too long, the teeth might die and then I'm going to lose them 'cause I don't want root canals.
If the amalgams are removed by an holistic dentist with all the right equipment, shouldn't the mercury exposure be minimal enough to handle?
I just want to get this stuff done before things get worse and not cause myself more harm through analysis paralysis; waiting till this is done, that is done, etc., prolonging the whole process.
So what I'm proposing to do is the AI while simultaneously removing the amalgams, then chelating after I've completed the AI and amalgam removal. Is that a risky plan?
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Well, I'm taking the plunge! I placed my order last week. A little nervous......
I may wait just a few weeks before I send my first sample to AI because I have decided to move forward with having my last 2 amalgams out first. I found a dentist that is very, very careful about the whole process. I'm thinking it's best for me to have them out, rather than to be continually exposed to the vapors every day releasing into my system. Plus I have a cap that has been sensitive for some time. The porcelain cracked off on one spot and the metal is exposed. That can't be good.
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Im going to order the saliva test,but does anyone know can I still do the test when Im taking abx? will it affect test result?
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GiGi
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If you start the AI therapy now, within two weeks of the first bottle you get, your DNA is being corrected and the immune system should recognize the toxic metals, at least the major ones, and act accordingly, i.e. recognize them as toxins and do what a functional immune system should have been doing all along.
When AI does the first test, the toxic metals and food allergies usually are corrected with the first bottle. At that point, your immune system should start to recognize them (the toxic metals as toxins) and start acting the way it should have been doing all along. The same with the foods (wheat, gluten, corn soy, etc.) if they show up on your first test as a problem.
That does not mean that all the toxic metals are out of the system, but rather that the body starts to deal with them. The same with the foods, the leaky gut, malabsorption, and whatever else the foods caused are being dealt with via the immune system; the body should start healing.
Everything that is showing up on your first test, all the dysregulations that are marked on the test results that you will be getting, have been corrected, and for the body to really get the full message, you are taking the drops with the correcting frequencies for 14 days. The drops are infusing the new information, with the corrected frequencies.
If you take some time and read the website, you will learn and understand this.
If you go and have your amalgams removed before this correction is given to the body via the first drops, the body will deal with any fallout as it has done probably for years, i.e. pack them away with the rest of the toxins in the different body compartments and who knows causing more problems now or down the road. Many people who thought they had gotten rid of the toxic metals would be surprised to know what is left behind.
If one is allergic to the toxic metal, the body cannot release it; it also tends not to absorb the good stuff (minerals, etc.) if it has turned allergic to it. Read some of the Dr. Daunderer writings I posted recently. Dr.K. has been telling me this since 1998. But I did not find an effective allergy elimination method until I found AI. I tried all I could find. They did not last. AI is permanent for all intents and purposes.
The thing to do, if it were me, is eliminate the allergies/dysregulations so the body can do what it should have been doing all your life to help keep your body clean.
You need to learn to deal with binders and support agents to protect your organs. A doctor or practitioner who can muscle test is of great help. At least learn some of the energetic testing yourself, so that you don't have to constantly depend on someone and the next appointment weeks away. Many are doing it, but it takes to quit listening to the naysayers and the doubting thomases.
The body will step in and start mobilizing the toxins and we need to learn to deal with it. You don't need to hang on chelating IV's etc. Chelating is the wrong word, because there is no such thing. There are only mobilizing agents and at some point binders to guard from reabsorption and recirculation of the toxins.
Had I known about the existence of AI when I had the metals removed from my mouth 12 years ago, the only thing that makes any sense now is to do the test and at least the first bottle to "put the body on notice" to do the right thing. Without that it is asleep at the switch!
Take care.
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Can anyone please make suggestions on binders and support products (brands and dosages)? I don't yet have someone who can ART test me, but my LLMD does muscle testing. At least that is something. In the meantime, what products should I purchase to have ready?
Thanks so much for any suggestions.
Kindly, Tammy
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Feelbetter, when I questioned AI, you can take the test when on abx. But they do not recommend abx when you start taking the drops unless you have acute problems or need medicines for "life support". You can take a pain pill if you need to.
Have them send you their information booklet to clients in English. It is also somewhere on this thread. Maybe someone will remember the approx. date when others and I posted it. Look back about a year and a couple of months. There is info you need to read.
Take care.
Take care.
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Thanks Tammy. I've got a good biological dentist, although he's very expensive. I think I gave some specifics on this on another thread.
It's just that I've heard that even with the best dentist and the best removal practices, you still get some mercury exposure. Hard to imagine, with a rubber dam, high powered suction, clean-up tip, oxygen with triangular nose hood, dent-air vac, how can any of that stuff be inhaled? I've also heard that it can penetrate the rubber dam, but I thought that some chlorella, activated charcoal, and vitamin C can take care of binding that up and moving it out.
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Dear Gigi,
Thanks for all the great information and support!!
I've read the various detox protocol issues you've posted links to, as well as the dental detox methods!
One idea, from an early Klinghardt protocol, was that the "bad bugs" sop up metals. So, our bodies tend to make a "deal" with the bacteria and viruses--they can live inside us as long as they keep the toxins inside THEM! Otherwise, the level of toxins we carry would kill or incapacitate us! WOW!
When we get rid of the metals, the body doesn't need the bacteria and viruses any more, so can get rid of them.
Also a caution on trying to kill the bugs off too quickly, eh??
At any rate, I'd appreciate a link to the most recent Klinghardt detox protocol, please. I'm getting ready to order what I need from his on-line store, BioPure.
Best,
Cass A
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There is no biological dentist out there who is inexpensive. And no matter what precautions they take, if you don't methylate, you could have issues. So best to get your body ready for such a procedure as it changes the entire terrain. Even when I get my teeth cleaned, I'm out of it for a few days.
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Many of us started the drops when in "bad shape." No time like the present.
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I suggest you go back to the beginning of the thread and read posts by GiGi. All your questions will be answered. Best not to reinvent the wheel here -- you owe it to yourself to spend the time doing the research and educating yourself.
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