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NanaDubo
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Six, Why not go ahead and get the test done? If you are still testing for fungi I'm guessing you might have several checked on your results, meaning that your body is unable to recognize and deal with them.

My initial results showed I had several and they easily multiply with any EMF exposure if your body literally doesn't know what fungi is.

We can take all kinds of precautions to protect ourselves from EMF exposure, but if we don't know mold from from a petunia at a DNA level - there is the problem. We just stash it away.

We also produce it at a quick rate to protect ourselves from heavy metals. Often those metals are not recognized either.

If you were able to handle fish in the past and are now reacting - still some chaos going on - dysregulations. This is what AI is all about.

Hope that is helpful.

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Just a thought--

Maybe the fish contained mercury, and maybe your body has an allergy to mercury.

I think that is why I developed a mouth full of cancer sores after just 2 days on the drops. I did a hair analysis and I am in the 95th percentile for mercury. When I received my AI report, it showed an allergy to mercury. I still have 3 amalgams left. I think that is why I had such a strong reaction to the drops.

As soon as my mouth sores heal I am having the amalgams removed.

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As far as I know, nearly everyone here has mercury and other heavy metals marked on their initial AI report, which is to be expected with Lyme because of its multi-factorial nature.

With energetic testing, although mercury has always showed as a problem, fish has never done so, despite its likely contamination, so metals may not be the whole or main reason for the intolerance.

I really sympathise with your desire to get those amalgams out, Tammy, but wonder if you may stir up a hornet's nest if you do so too early, especially if you are still thinking of starting some KPU components too:

Having the amalgams out is a whole big thing to handle on its own, even with only 3 remaining and can escalate into bigger candida problems afterwards. I don't think active chelation is recommended whilst on the drops, only binding, as AI itself seems to trigger metal release for most people.

I do hope your sores heal up soon,

Best Wishes,

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Thank you for the suggestions. It wasn't the mercury, it was the fish. I've been reacting to shellfish since before I got sick (er) with Lyme about 8 years ago. As is "normal" for this type of reaction, it has gotten worse over the years, but isn't new.

This was definitely an anaphylactic reaction this time, which is relatively common to fish/shellfish. If it were a toxicity type reaction, I'd agree with it possibly being mercury. This time seemed to be to trout, but there was a special on shrimp that night, so it could have been contaminated by the shellfish. Now I get to carry an epi pen.

I was tested months ago, and it was *only* fungus and heavy metals. I say only because it sure beats earlier when I tested for all kinds of infections.

It's good to know that AI might help with all these, thanks, that's what I was wondering. [Smile] I still wouldn't actually eat shellfish again to test it since it was an anaphylactic reaction, but I thought after I used AI I could go to an allergist to see if I'm still allergic, and if so, what exactly can't I eat?

My DO wanted me to do an "allergy desensitization" protocol and he offers two of them, so I wanted to be sure AI did what he claims these can do.

I'm planning on ordering, I am waiting for my husband to call the credit card company to tell them we're ordering from overseas. They always turn those down and then decline our card for everything. He has to call because it's in his name.

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To anyone who is thinking about AI -----Please take the time and read portions and as much as you can of the website. Please also read the orange links. It explains everything. Sometimes the Google translation is a little wobbly, but that should not stop anyone from trying to undersand the therapy before getting into it.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&langpair=de|en&u=http://www.allergie-immun.de

Allergie Immun is not a desensitization therapy as it is known in school medicine. Information medicine (Energy Medicine) vs. Biochemical Medicine.

There is a list of practitioners and doctors on the website who support patients who do the therapy in Europe and also more recently some in the US. It was practically not known here until I became aware of it through a German doctor friend and started to spread the news here. By now our extended family is on the program. Many dysregulations are passed on to our children and their children. All my grandchildren have the allergies of our children, etc. etc. One side of the family may be stronger than the other. I had no grain problem, but my husband did and most grandchildren have more. The same with the miasms.

Do some reading and become informed.

Take care and good luck to all who are still hitting the little "informed water" bottles!

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I understand it is different than what my DO/naturopath is offering, that is why I was asking. I did read their English website. I was wondering if it would accomplish what my doctor wanted to attempt to accomplish in a different manner. My doctor's therapies aren't resonating with me at all .... if that makes sense.

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Not sure I know much if anything about the desensitization protocols, but for me..... I would rather correct the error that told my body that certain leaves growing in my yard are poison, than to become less sensitive to them. Seems like a temporary fix.

The miasms in particular were something I wanted to take care of. No sense carrying around the memory of great, great grandma's TB when it's her memory and not mine (example).

Sometimes the drops have to take care of a whole shopping cart full of other problems before it reaches the one that is most noticeable to us.

Makes perfect sense not to do something if it doesn't resonate with you.

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well said NanaDubo ...

Sometimes the drops have to take care of a whole shopping cart full of other problems before it reaches the one that is most noticeable to us.

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Thanks, Nanadubo, that is what I was wondering. That makes sense and is what I was thinking it might do.

My mom had polio as a child .... interesting on the miasms.

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Can chia seeds be used as a binder? I think I remember somebody saying that flax seeds are good for that too. Or not? Anyone?
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I use Garden of Life Super Seed for fiber and both flax and chia seeds are ingredients.

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On Round 9 and my MCS is back with a vengeance. Anyone experience this?
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Maybe your liver is struggling? Maybe start with paying extra attention to organ support?
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Six, sometimes fish allergie is really a parasite issue. Get ART tested and see. With all you have been through, you should really finish up with the AI! Only my suggestion. but I believe you will benefit big time. There is only to gain with this.
best to all
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Wise, I had brief moments in between many bottles to where I got some of the odors that "normal" people don't get. You are detoxing chemicals by the hundreds and I think that is all very normal.
It's all part of the road you are on. When it happens to me, I try not to internalize or even worry - because I know that the only way to get rid of it is to bring them to the surface to be resolved and forgotten.

Many dysregulations/allergies have an emotional origin. Someday I will remember the other 3 of the four types of allergies and post them.

Happy Sunday!

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Thanks, lightparfait. I no longer have parasites. [Smile]

BUT, sometimes it's an allergy TO parasites in the FISH. I thought of that.

I talked to my daughter who used to work in this restaurant. They had a special on a breaded shrimp that night, and my fish was breaded. It sounds like a cross-contamination issue, so truly the shellfish allergy, though it was still my worst reaction to date, but I'm glad to know it's still *just* shellfish.

I am planning on doing the AI. [Smile]

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Quick question -- Since there were days I could not come close to handling the full dose.... some days I just did 2 doses (one drop each)..... should I extend beyond the 2 weeks and continue for a few more days?

Thanks,
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With 7 of us taking drops, we often miss doses - i just add extra doses at the end to make up for it.
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Wiser - Yes! I remember last year driving somewhere and all I could smell was hair perm chemicals. No beauty parlor in my back seat! Figured I was getting rid of chemicals put on my head from years past.

Also spend the better part of a day telling my family every few hours that I smelled gasoline. No one else smelled it.

Made me wonder as when Dr. A D saw an old hair test of mine, she asked if I used to pump leaded gas for a living! [Eek!]

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Another question -- I'm struggling with whether to take Mepron/Zith or not while on the drops. Before starting the drops, I checked with Germany and they said yes, antibiotics can be continued. They also said yes to supplements. [Even though they said yes, I think it's best to keep everything at a minimum because the body is going through a lot. I think it's an easier time to just do the drops, binders and maybe some probiotics.]

All that being said....after the first week being on the drops, I stopped the Mepron/Zith and supplements to see if it would help with the crazy reaction I was having in my mouth (multiple sores), plus I was having some kidney pain. Almost immediately after stopping I had a resurgence of symptoms, mostly neuropathy. I continued to stay off for the week (until finished with drops).

My neuropathy is off the charts. I am 'plugged in', humming, buzzing, numb, tingling, etc all the time. These symptoms were quiet on the meds (for which I was immensely grateful). Right now I feel that it is more than I can handle. I know suppression of symptoms is not ideal, but sometimes you just need relief.

I was planning to go back on the meds today or tomorrow. I felt that I was making headway with these meds (more energy and relief of symptoms) and do not want to create a resistant strain of babs. I have been on for about 7 weeks and was hoping I would be "done" within a few months. I realize this decision is mine. But I wanted to ask your opinions as well.

Also, is anyone else on meds while doing drops?

Thanks so much,
Tammy

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I thought I'd give an update.....

I had a major clearing in my mouth. All sores are just about completely gone! This feels very exciting to me. When I first broke out in all of the painful sores... along all gum lines, under the tongue and along the front edge of tongue.... I was worried thinking 'oh my, what have I started?' ( There was a total of about 25+ sores.) It was incredibly painful (especially the tongue!) and worrisome. Well, now they have healed, and I am so happy to know something major has cleared within me.

I am really surprised at the power in these drops. Sometimes I could only handle one drop, and would still feel a strong reaction. If I were to guess, I'm thinking it may have been a 'correction' with mercury. But, who knows, whatever it was, it was a MAJOR.

So glad this episode is behind me. Being able to eat again normally makes me so much happier.

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Glad to hear the good report Tammy.

Why do you have to "guess?" I thought each round of drops was is identified as to what it's supposed to correct, no?

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I am so happy for you Tammy!

[woohoo]

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Chaps, yes and no. The first round of drops covers a LOT. If you have reactions, it is difficult to narrow it down.

Subsequent rounds can come with a short list, for example: 6 energetic blockages, 8 chemicals, 2 biological substances etc (depending on what he finds).

If someone had a "silent" wheat allergy their whole life, their intestines are likely a mess and it takes quite a while for that to heal. So, sometimes it's hard to tell exactly what is going on other than that strong corrections are taking place.

Tammy, I think you are right about the mercury. That's why I suggested rinsing with pulverized chlorella and water. If it was chemicals, I imagine it would have helped with that as well.

So glad the sores are gone!!

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That whole thing with the sores sounds like a scary experience.

Sores in the mouth usually stem from viruses, which suggests that these drops may have somehow activated a virus or counter-acted viral antibodies?

Can anyone offer a possible explanation for these sores?

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Can you help me. I have tried to order the test and I am sure I am doing something wrong as I can read the information in english but when I go to complete the form and submitted it the response came back in german to my email. so I am not sure what to do. The form i was to complete wouldn't let me pick the us for the country and didnt ask for a state either. Any help you can give me as to what i am doing wrong is appreciated. thanks.
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trishc - I don't really remember the payment process but just went to the site. Did you go to "English Version" and then click "order now"?

It should automatically go to paypal.

Copy the email response you got and paste in at
www.translategoogle.com - it will give a translation, although rough.

Maybe it will give you more info.

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Great news about the sores, Tammy!

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Thanks, will the results come back in english? I just kept getting redirected to the german site and all correspondence to my email has been in german.
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Trishc--when you send the test in send a short note in German (use google translate) that you would like the results in English.

They now also have a credit card option, not just pay pal.

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Wow, I've actually FINALLY gotten through this 44-page thread and proud to say I've read every word--phew!

I still have to visit and view/read all the links added in certain posts, but otherwise I feel I have a very good understanding of AI and what to expect.

I do have a question though that I kept hoping to stumble upon, but it surprisingly never came up--unless I missed it.

So, my question is: Am I the only one concerned about what AI is actually doing to the DNA at the DNA level, i.e., how does one truly know if it is "messing" up our code rather than just fixing it? I know there is praise galore for the AI doctor, but the product is still man-made thus open to man-made errors. Not trying to be negative, just want to get info........

I am hesitant to try this on my child because I'm not quite sure how this is working on the DNA level. I don't want to be changing her DNA in a possible negative manner that doesn't present itself until a later time in life. Or, is this not something that is a need for worry?

I'm probably not understanding AI as fully as I believe I do, or maybe this question has been answered but on the German website (which I will be reading and researching too)?

I appreciate input from those who've researched this, have used it without worry, and found it risk free (as well as those who've had opposite reactions)--want both opinions--

THANKS!

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Thanks, friends, for your kind replies. As quickly as the sores came, they went. (With good riddance!!)

chaps - it's hard to say what it actually was from. Mouth sores can be viral, from chemical/toxin exposure, stress or an immune issue.

Some recent awarenesses have come to mind..... Many years ago I use to get cancer sores all the time. Usually several at once, frequently. And I remember a particularly stressful and challenging time in my life (about age 20) when I was going through an extremely trying time (physical, emotional, relationship, family, financial, etc. etc.) At this time I remember a mouthful of sores, worse than I had had previously. And recalling it now, I realize I never really felt good since then (and had suffered episodes of severe decline since then).

I'm wondering if the clearing I just had has any relation to this period in my life. I also wish I had my dental records from all those years ago. I wonder if amalgams were the catalyst to my downfall. I did show an 'alergy' to mercury on my AI report, and I have very elevated mercury according to a recent hair analysis.

While I was on the drops I also had significant kidney pain. Clearly things were circulating in my body and I was concerned because I was continuing Mepron/Zith (Germany had said was ok). I stopped meds temporarily for relief and because I was afraid of causing myself harm. Well, I just realized today, back when I was having that most challenging time in my life, I had a terrible kidney infection. Then subsequently developed an allergy to the med and ended up in quarantine for 6 days because my wbc went down to nothing.

Now it's got me thinking that this clearing perhaps relates to this past episode in my life. All very interesting stuff.

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Sounds like you hit the jackpot Tammy.

I had several energetic blockages from traumas experienced in life (#9.1 on the test results) and some he calls "energetic relics or burdens inherited from parents, grandparents etc." (#9.2)

These definitely come up and since they can have a huge impact on our health - its wonderful to know they can be cleared.

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Wow - aMomWithHope you read all of this thread and you came up with the same question I have... you saved me a ton of time!

I have the same concerns as you!

I don't want to try something out on my son unless I know what it does. You voiced my concern and I am so grateful to you for that! And for doing the reading and letting me know that the answer does not lie in those pages somewhere!

I wish there was a search function of just this thread!

It does sound pretty cool, though. I am quite interested.

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Early in this thread, the person who originated it posted a link that allows you to read the entire AI thread in English, including everything hi-lighted, underlined, as well as their forum etc.

I believe it was first translated from German to Italian and then English so it can be a little rough going but has a LOT of information.

I think if you read it, there will be a better understanding of correcting chaotic, electromagnetic errors that have caused us to perceive/receive information incorrectly. This can impact the way cells communicate with each other (or do not) and every system in the body eventually is affected.


I don't pretend to be able to give a thorough explanation but can say that every time I have read there, it all makes sense to me.

I think Gigi has also posted a link more recently.

There is also a list of practitioners (most are in Europe) but you could find one that speaks English, request a phone appointment and see if your questions can be answered by them.

Here is a tiny portion from something I read there. You can see what I mean when I say the translation is a little rough but you can easily get the idea.
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Who accepts allergies, evade them in the long run only, or by force (chemical) is suppressed, has sometimes no protection against the worst chronic diseases and is also all infections - the most is the alarming experience of ALLERGY IMMUN, with over 80% of all people now suffer and die from "chronic" diseases!

This allergy is no disease per se, but rather the result of regulatory failures (cause). Only the result of allergies (Greek: the foreign reaction) we call general disease (effect).
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Hope this is helpful. Now I have to go shovel a few more feet of snow!

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MomLyme,

Thank you for your support in my concern.

AI does sound very interesting and promising, and I would love to start it with my child as well as myself; however, I feel my concern is a big one.

Since I don't speak German and the answer to my question wasn't in this thread, it seems like I will now have to go over and spend a good amount of time reading everything on the German translated website. I planned on doing that anyway but was hoping one of the experienced AI users would know this answer.

My child is currently still on abx, so I'll have to wait to start her on it. Depending on what I can uncover on the German website, I'm hoping to start her on it come spring (when I hope to take her off abx).

I hope AI has the answer on their website.

I'll keep you posted if/when I find out more.

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Does anyone know if shiatsu is ok during AI?
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Not for regular treatments - just one or 2.
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GiGi,
Do you have an email? I notcied your PM box is turned off (don't blame ya)

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One more question...

Is AI contraindicated for all cases of diabetes? The cases I'm thinking of are children - so Type 1.

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Phospholipid Exchange -- I took a few doses of it and had such a violent reaction -- heavy metals flooding my brain, dizziness galore. Micro silica also screws up my brain.
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Lex, I had the same reaction with one dose of PE. Nausea, dizziness, general feeling that all is not well. Will wait a few months and try again.


Question to all:
I was reading over some of DK's material and saw a reference for using Alginate as a binder.

Found this product after a quick search:

http://www.gohealthynow.com/product/675-1

As my binder options are limited, I thought that Alginate might fit well into the rotation. Does any one out there use this stuff?

Thanks!

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thejoje,
I'm not on AI, but I have taken Algin by Nature Sunshine. For me it was very constipating as all the binders are.


My binder options are limited as well.

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Lyme diagnosed 2007
3 1/2 years treatment with oral combos, Cowden, IV roc. BW herbs. Off all abx in 12/10. Feeling good.

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Can't give you a lecture on DNA. Look at the effects of mercury as I just posted, and you will see why we are messing with the blueprint of our DNA. I don't think you can build a house with a flawed blueprint. Some we inherited, and as Nana wrote, why would we want to live with the burden of our ancestors, who probably had to put up with the burden of their forefathers.

My grandchildren have the imprint of the Plague that happened some 500 years ago caused by rats. I certainly was happy when that was corrected. I love their blue eyes and brown eyes and their talents, but love to see the bad imprints corrected.

I did not show any miasms in my test, but my husband had some. I am glad that my children agreed to do AI, mostly for the sake of their children. There is cancer on one side of the family. I talked enough to HG to understand that it is a good idea to free the children of these wheat and grain allergies. Hardly any child today is born without them, and certainly not without dysregulations in that they can't handle the toxic environmental metals and chemicals.
Blocked Enzyme production: I think most of the people who took the AI test, the first 16 page report, cam up with this problem. How far are we going to go with a blockage in the enzyme production. We need thousands of them to function.

By all means, if you have doubts, don't get into any therapy that you do not understand. I searched the AI website for "DNA" and a bunch of articles came up. Please do read them.

Sorry it is in German - but that is the language of the land and its people. But it is well worth the extra effort if we want to understand. I sat for weeks reading and still go back to learn more.

All I can tell you - it works and it worked for me and is still working for me way beyond expectations. I am getting rid of accumulated toxic metals and chemicals - none of which happened to this extent before AI. I cleared Lyme many years ago, but I knew that I was still dealing with some residuals.

Please note that any effects are slowly, slowly coming. The drops only turn the switch of the system into the right direction, correcing polarities, then the body has the correct information in the form of electromagnetic imprints to start working again. How much damage has to be undone, who knows, and it will take a while. If you have taken antibiotics and pharmaceuticals for a long time, it takes a long time to dig up what should not have been there in the first place.

That is why AI recommend to take abx only in actute situations, and we all know by now what all the fillers do and what creates the biofilm and hiding places for the pathogens/metals/ and more.

But when you get through making the corrections and the wires are reconnecting, the immune system will be able to do its thing. Just be patient and remember that it took probably years
before you hung out the sign "out of order" and it will take some time to get the train back on track. HG talks about the blocked autobahn forcing detours, etc.

One thing he said to me for a while: Even the memory of the Lyme event is imprinted in the DNA -only the memory causing blockages. Energy follows the thought. Thought first, then energy.

Hope and wish all are getting better.

It's past my bedtime. Will come back tomorrow.

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Phospholipid Exchange is a strong stuff. It knocked me down quite a few times. I wouldn't take this WITH AI, unless AI changed me only a bit.

PE is not something to play around as the KPU is NOT something to play around. These are strong stuff that move heavy metals around considerably.
If my memory is good, I was EATING chlorella and binders to keep functioning during the PE trial.

Cilantro does little for me in comparison to PE or the KPU. After months on PE, I could handle it without many reactions. But the first doses felt like a tsunami!!
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Gigi, how do you discover imprints of plague today? You mean, they test as having the plague in dormant form (with the plague nosode)?

That still makes sense though... I see TB (tuberculosis) all over, even though people don't feel sick with TB, but they do test for TB strains!!

When you talk about the plague, I am almost sure I had plague positive at one point of my lyme treatment. My ancestors though were from Japan. I wonder if plague reached Japan too or if I�'caught' that while I lived in Europe somehow??

Anyway...

My daughter is so much better in eating habits and her immune system is much stronger than before AI. And she's also growing more than usual. I feel that clearing some blockages just helped her digest foods much better and she is just growing (?). Does that make sense?

If that is correct, this is an amazing and surprising change that I would never expect from any treatment!!

Thank you for insisting on the AI!

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The first time I did mircrosilica and PE together with a little lemon juice it knocked me for a loop.

I was on my way from Gigi's to the airport and wasn't sure I'd make it without a stop off at the ER!

That was over a year ago. I waited a few months and rounds of AI and neither of them presented a problem anymore.

My doc in WA has suggested and ART tested me to take PE by the teaspoon full with our without mircrosilica - which ever way I test with the biotensor. I have no problem at all with it any more but I have also gotten rid of some mercury since then.

Both substances may be something you want to go slow with - and get some guidance.

Great news about your daughter Brussels! It IS an amazing therapy.

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Thanks fellow travelers for feedback on PE and Mic. Silica -- I really thought I was done for after taking PE. What did help me get back on track was a coffee enema.

A chiropractor who consults for Apex told me that when one has auto immune diseases, herbs can be a kiss of death. I stopped the herbals I was on for parasites and am going to ask my MD to give me a perscription for flagyl. The chiro. said such people do better with a drug.

Dr. K. also says that when one has Hashi's, not to take the natural T3/T4 -- that synthroid works better. Because the immune system regards the natural stuff as an invader and starts the fight.
Whereas it ignores the synthroid and the drug can go right to work.

My thyroid blood labs showed a great improvement. My RT3 was 657 and it's now 357 High normal is 350. Hashi's didn't register. T4 was a bit high.
I am trusting that the AI drops are the reason.

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After the PE (I took three teaspoons in three days) was about ready to dial 911 and I actually at times thought I was dying.
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OH my God.

3 teaspoons Phospholipid Exchange in 3 consecutive days?? You're a hero.

Good you didn't die!!! ER wouldn't have a hint on what to do with you, so good you didn't call 911!!

I hope the AI helps on those heavy metal sensitivities and that detox goes smoothly.

My daughter today was blocked (blocked regulation). I was wondering why and she tested for chlorella, meaning, something is on the loose. She's on round 3 or 4 of AI (I can't remember) and NOW releasing heavy metals!!?

Apart from AI, I can't see any reason for her to need chlorella now... It's been months we're not taking it. Good to know her body is releasing heavy metals without the help of anything else than AI.

I'm a bit nervous as the last 2 weeks of January is the time she relapsed from lyme in 2009 and 2010. Looked like clockwork!!!

It's mid winter, that is when she relapses. I'm not giving her any extra treatment except for the Vit D3 and AI.

If she doesn't relapse, I think I will HAVE to try AI myself!!

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Anyone have a good remedy for motion sickness?

Drops are bringing this out in 3 family members.

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