tick battler
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Thanks for the mailing tip Nana.
Well, I did it! Sent in my swab today along with my twin boys' swabs. Can't wait to see what they find. If all goes well, I will do it for my daughter and husband too.
By the way, has anyone heard reports on how this works with autistic children? I would love to hear of any accounts. One of my boys could be on the spectrum with his sensory issues and motor tics and behavior issues.
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I don't know of any autistic children on the drops but I imagine there are some. Have you gone to the translated site and read the forum? Might be some people posting there about it.
My doc works diligently to detox autistic kids so I would imagine that if your boys have metal "allergies" it will be most helpful for the metals to become recognized.
I hope you all do well on the drops and keep us posted.
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Thank you so much NanaDubo! I am reading through the thread and am getting even more hopeful about it, the more that I read. It is fascinating. I was thinking the same thing about helping autistic kids, as I know detox is a important part of healing them.
By the way, there is an article in the Wall Street Journal today about linking alcoholism to genes passed down through generations. Would this be a type of miasm (did I spell this right)? They talk about creating drugs to match the specific gene type. I wonder if AI could re-regulate the DNA of an alcoholic so they are "cured"?
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You can read up on Hahnemann's theory of miasms. Some of the more prevalent ones are tuberculosis, syphilis, scabies, gonorrhea.
With alcoholism or any substance addiction, I wonder if KPU is mixed in there - can be inherited or acquired.
PBS did a documentary called The Ghosts in Our Genes. Some interesting research - left me with the feeling that AI took up where they left off.
I think it can still be watched on line if you google it but I watched it about a year ago so not sure.
One of the researchers made the point that they had always believed that children and grandchildren of holocaust survivors carried the memory of the atrocities because they heard the stories so many times.
They began testing women who were pregnant during 9/11. Their babies were too young to have heard the stories, but there it was there in their DNA.
A good watch.
A family of 4 that I know who did the drops - the parents had no miasms, the two kids had all four that HG looks for - so evidently they can skip a generation.
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Wow- thanks for the info NanaDubo - that is so interesting. I can't wait to see what is found in our DNA.
By the way, just got an e-mail from Mr. HG's team telling me to mail the saliva to a different address from what they had told me in an earlier correspondence. I shipped already to the In den Hahndornen 16 address! The second correspondence told me to send to Kurweg 20 in Carlsburg. I wrote back for clarification - hopefully I will not have to reship! Did this happen to anyone else?
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Strange symptom that's been coming on for a while: Very stinky urine. It's really bad. I'm wondering if I should get checked for a bladder infection. No other accompanying symptoms, tho.
The other thought--is this a detox reaction? Anybody else have this?
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AI moved to the next village. I would send the next shipment to the address they have given you with the last drops. I am sure mail on the way is being forwarded to them as it would be here. But make sure on next one you send it to the new address they give.
Healthy detox does smell. When the kidneys filter as they should and toxins are coming through, the urine will be darker and smelly. It should not be that way constantly. It comes and goes with the detoxing process.
Liver and Kidney support is very important. Unda 243 is good (google it) and so is Renelix. It is very important to support kidney with plenty of fluids (not quarts of water that flush all the minerals out), but liquids as described in this thread (soups, mousses, broth, tea, etc. Drinking liters of plain water is not a good habit because it flushes out many minerals that most of us have not enough to begin with.
Galactose (google/Biopure carries it also)is important to take to clear some of the ammonia due to detox. All of this info is in the different protocols I have posted over the months. It is very, very important that you support the organs, move lymph, etc. When things start to get stuck, it is difficult to undo the damage. Watch your urine - should not be cloudy or burn or difficult to urinate or frequent. UTI are quite common if you lack support.
Smelly urine is progress as long as it is within limits. Watch it carefully.
Take care.
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Thanks, Gigi. This has been coming on for a few months, and it is constant.
I will add more organ support and talk to my new doc about it.
Thanks for all the info.
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Research and try Mannose. It works well for bladder stuff. Please read up on it. It is very helpful. See if you find an article by Dr. Jonathan Wright, Tahoma Clinic, talking about the benefits of Mannose. I first learned about it years ago from him and posted it here. But so much of my stuff as usual is pulled as nonsense or ends up in general where no one finds it. I wish I had a record of everything I ever posted -
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I second the motion for D-Mannose that Gigi mentioned!
I'm having alot of tissue burning on face and in bladder. Chlorella and D-Mannose (taken away from each other) are keeping things down to a dull roar.
Do not use cranberry anything if you do take D-Mannose, because evidently they cancel each other out.
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Driving back from the seminar, my husband was getting weary of traffic jams. So I thought of him and tapped the MFT points and he perked right up.
I didn't get to the Lyme part of it if anyone was looking for me. I wanted to save my juice for Day Three.
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Well, that sure is disappointing if this therapy is so crucial to get well. That alone bothers me a lot. I thought he did it himself (or doing it currently) and is experiencing miraculous gains according to GiGi.
quote:Originally posted by Lex: AI was not mentioned at the seminar, not once.
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My husband and I really enjoyed the Dr. K lyme seminar as well. Dr. K is a very entertaining speaker, as well as a brilliant MD. It was neat to see Dr. B there...the two big brains coming together from seemingly opposite ends...that's why they are so good...they are open to learning from each other and changing their thinking when appropriate...and thinking outside the box. I was hoping to see more of the big LLMD's there to learn about life after abx and hear another perspective.
wiseforit - I tried to send you another pm but your mailbox is full! I was NOT the person with the phone ringing - I remember that! Let me know when your mailbox is clear!
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seek - that bothers me too...but perhaps he has not used it long enough to recommend it - not sure. I wonder if he normally recommends it for his patients?
I have seen it listed once in one of his presentations, but it was part of a long list of things and there was no detail given in the slide about it. I was happy to see that he mentioned it though.
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Well, I just got Round Nine . . . . and hopefully this week I will start Biltricide. The bugs are keeping me awake. Dr. K also poo poos the idea about blood sugar and eating many small meals a day to control it. What's really happening is the bugs are hungry and when you feed them, they're quiet for a while.
I know people that have been on Alinia for a long time and still test for parasites. There are layers and layers of bugs and if you're in a family where only one person is detoxing, you get reinfected. You kiss kids, lick dogs, cats lick you and it never ends.
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I think Dr. K tests everything thoroughly on himself first. A number of his patients are on AI and I don't imagine his picture is on the AI website recommending it without his permission.
Lex is right about the parasites - HG did write me once about it and said "of course the drops will help recognize parasites." Doesn't mean it will kill them of course.
I know I have passed some and not on anything for parasites at the present time.
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So many of the parasites are encased in biofilms (mag stearate can help that along)that it takes a drug like biltricide to burst their hiding places. Seems that AI can help immune system recognize those that are just hanging out -- immune system can then do it's job but if they are in hiding, I don't think the AI is going to burst their bubbles.
K did say that herbal remedies can cause worse die off than drugs. And I've heard from other sources that those with auto immune disease like Hashimoto's need to take care when taking herbs because it sets the immune system off.
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I tried to ask K. about magnesium and Lyme but I was competing with a hundred or so other hands. However, when I questioned other docs in the room, they all remembered K saying that magnesium feeds Lyme and one needs to get mag. transdermally. I use mag oil twice a day and rub it on my neck.
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Okay, here it is in the latest Lyme protocol handout:
Common deficiencies in Lyme: magnesium: has to be given transdermal or via injection. Oral Magnesium feeds spirochetes.
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I don't understand why transdermal or injected magnesium wouldn't feed spirochetes---it gets in the blood and goes to the organs just like digested magnesium.
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hiker53 it's too late for me to become a biochemist or an MD but if I had it to do over again, I would just for the privilege of injecting and writing scripts, if nothing else.
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It has been almost two weeks and I have not heard anything from AI. I have sent them two e-mails asking if I should resend my samples to the second address they had given me. They have not responded.
Considering I was just charged over $1800 on my credit card (for 3 of us), I think it would be nice to have some communication here! I will try to look for additional contact information tomorrow when I have time. I have been replying to the e-mails they sent me...perhaps there is a more effective way through a different e-mail address to reach them. Any thoughts anyone?
Thanks,
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OUCH Tick battler, I hope you get an answer soon. I wouldn't be too happy. I don't think they speak much English so you'll probably need GiGi to be the middle person. Perhaps mail is being forwarded?
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It takes at least a week to ten days (sometimes even longer) for your mail to get to AI. Since they just moved into another town nearby, the mail to the old address is forwarded to them and probably takes an extra day.
They normally do not confirm arrival of your test material and money, but respond by sending you the test results as soon as they are done.
I am sure your mail is not the only one that has not been responded to. They do not have an extra person there to answer e-mails. If they did, we would not get the work they do for many months for the same price paid in 2008. It would take extra personnel to hire people translating and writing in other languages.
I think we are lucky to get what we get and what we pay for this therapy that seems to be taking a very long time for most Americans. I know that friends of ours in Germany starting the same time as we did have finished the therapy a year ago! We really live a differnt lifestyle I guess.
Hope you get your answers soon, tick battler, and prepare for some sleepy days!! We are on our 20th bottle and I could sleep all day. That's the only symptom I have while my body still learns to regulate again. But it is a good feeling..
Those are my thoughts - knowing the people well after speaking with them many times. The only thing we cannot expect that all Germans must speak English to make it easy for us.
Their new address from the latest mail we got from them with our 20th bottle is
Phone: 01149 6356- 60 86 938 Fax: 01149 6356- 60 86 872
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tickbattler - be watching your email for the PDF test results. That will come before the drops arrive. Some have missed that in the past.
Turn around time is always at least three weeks from the time you mail the sample. Sometimes faster, sometimes longer.
No one else is able to do this work (that I am aware of) so try to understand that just a few people are taking care of thousands.
I learned to just throw my hands up and usually my drops arrived the next day! The only time I pursued it by email was if the whole thing took more than 4 weeks.
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Tick battler, Our last few bottles from AI have taken 6 weeks from the time sent. Hang in there!
On another note, I have good news! For the first time in my life I have fingernails! I wanted to wait a couple of weeks before telling anyone in order to see if the nails lasted, and they did!!!
(I hope this is a sign that my bones are getting stronger.)
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Terrific, thejoje. I'm very pleased for you!
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I took a long brisk walk two days ago when the sun was gloriously shining -- saw a bluebird! A year ago I could not have walked as far -- my coordination is better, I feel strength in the lower half of my body and when I stopped to talk to a neighbor, I didn't feel like running away.
Round Nine arrived and like our wizened GiGi said, sleep time. AI found 20 disregulations this time!
I started on the CORE and hopefully I will be getting tested with ART within the next few weeks by a woman who has been studying K's stuff for the last six years. I have the biltricide but think I need to be properly tested before I take it.
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Has anyone noticed their sleep severely disturbed while on the drops? THe last couple of months has been a struggle.
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Well, I went to Dr. A and got ART tested and she's amazing! After all the AI that I have done, things have certainly changed.
Lyme traces are miniscule but viruses abound. I am blocked and really need even greater kidney/liver/lymph support.
I was glad for the validation. I've been feeling really run down due to a run of pesky colds and sinus infections. My ears are really cloggy and after each plane ride they take about five days to calm down.
So, two steps forward and one step back, but improvement nonetheless. I am so thankful for AI and everyone on this thread; I am so thankful for Dr. A; i am so thankful for my body working to sort itself out!
Blessings and good hopes to all,
wiserforit2
P.S. Lex -- sleep on rounds 8 & 9 seemed to be broken and full of dreaming both good and bad. Pre-Spring light is also altering my sleep.
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You might want to consider two things for your ears:
milking the eustachian tubes - take your index finger and go back in your mouth to the gag reflex and with your other hand, massage that area on the face back of wisdom teeth. It hurts and you may gag.
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wiserforit - that's great news!! I've been trying to PM you, but your mailbox is full. I would love to connect with you. I'm going out to WA also. Was wondering if maybe we could chat at some point. Please PM me when you get the chance.
Best, Tammy
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How much are the tests and the drops?????
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I meant to say neural therapy in the otic ganglion
I spoke to an MD today in Maryland to see if he could do neural therapy. He studied with Dr. K and thinks he's on the right track but his comment was
"I need to make money."
A colleague came over today and we tested a patient using ART and it took two hours and we could have kept on going.
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Be sure you take the AI drops early enough in the evening and not too close to bedtime. They definitely kept me awake when I waited too long to take the last 5 drops.
Also, if you muscle test or ART test or tensor test another person, the result for the person will reflect your own if you happen to have similar problems to solve. I always clear myself first, i.e. test myself first, to see my body's response. I.e. if you are testing for toxic metals today and your testee has the same problem, it may result in the opposite. The two results cancel each other out.
In other words, the tester has to be healthwise ahead and in better shape, or at least able to clear him/herself before testing another person. If you know you are metal toxic, keep a metal toxin vial or a metal detoxer in your energy field (your pocket) and then test the other person.
Test yourself first and keep the blockage clearing items on you, and then test your child or other person --- whoever.
If you know that you need a certain remedy and test for it every day, keep (the test vial) it on you. If you test your child who may need the same remedy as you do, it may not show up as needed if you don't have it on your body. Your need and his/her need may cancel each other out - negate - and it looks like neither of you need it.
It takes a while to learn all of it. But do remember this. If you test positive for fungi today and so does your child, unless you clear yourself first, both of you may show as "no, fungi not a problem today" -- while actually you are testing "yes" and you should treat yourself and child for it.
Hope I didn't confuse you more.
I would not have wanted to go through this disease without energetic testing. It's got to be a nightmare unless you know what is causing what and then be able to help yourself. Practice when you can and learn more. Please.
Take care.
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I started Round 2 last Thursday. Stopped taking Mepron/Zith and Armour Thyroid on Friday.
AI is something I wanted to do very much. In hindsight, I wish I had waited until I was in a place where I did not need any meds to keep my symptoms under control. I emailed Germany and asked if meds could be taken during AI. They answered yes, so I decided to proceed. Gigi had told us time and again that we should not be on meds while doing AI, but since Germany said it was okay, I thought perhaps they revised their position on it, and that it wouldn't cause any interference after all. [However, recently Gigi told me, given their position, they would not advise someone not to take meds. Makes sense.)
Since I stopped meds just a few days ago my symptoms have come screaming back. Very very intense electric, buzzing, tingling, vibrating, numb, rattling nerves. All through my legs and feet. Also in my arms and hands. In the center of my torso and up into the back of my skull.
I know 'killing agents' were considered a no no. But in my position do you think it would be a good idea to take olive leaf extract, artemisinin, grapefruit seed extract, or anything else in the herbal family?
Also, is Amour thyroid something that could be continued? Maybe I am throwing my hormones for a loop by going on and off (I did this also with Round 1.)
I posted a new topic to see if anyone has any suggestions on how to help calm these nerves.
If you have any suggestions at all, please reach out. I am in a very touch place.
Thank you kindly, Tammy
P.S. I will be going to Dr. K's clinic in WA on 3/28. Not a day too soon.
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Has this actually helped anyone?
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Dear Friends,
Well, I'm 10 days into Round 18. I thought I was going to set the world record, but I see that GiGi is ahead of me (slightly)!!
At this time, the Dr. K method of taking chlorella and then cilantro tincture 30 minutes later is producing the best and most consistent symptom improvement I've had since I got this #^$&@ disease! I can actually THINK for more than 5 minutes at a time!
(Well, I must admit that Rechts Regulat, which Dr. K also found, is the BEST at handling hypercoagulation)
I've stopped all oral magnesium, which I took for years and years, and am now ONLY using the transdermal magnesium oil. I need very little to prevent the horrific leg and foot cramps I was experiencing. Horray!!
On the other side...
It would be very nice if the areas of my memory that are completely gone would come back.... Or, at least, that I would be able to remember things I read or learn now for more than a day or two.... Suggestions?????
Unfortunately, I've had to be on an anti-seizure drug, as the non-pharmaceutical methods didn't result in no seizures. Since November, though, I have had no seizures. So, at least it is doing its job.
I'm interested in getting more data on the Dr. K and Dr. B seminar just held in the NY area. Was it recorded? On video?
Best,
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Hi Cass -- try PMing Lightparfait about the seminar. I think the whole thing was video-ed; she'll know for sure.
How wonderful that the chlorella/cilantro combo is working for you in a positive way! Also, what brnad of trnasdermal magnesium oil do you use? The no-seizures news is fabulous too!
I just got round #9 and my health has taken a dip for some reason -- most likely due to insufficient detoxing. So, I keep plugging along. How did your further rounds treat you?
Best to you,
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I've just come back from ART testing with D A and found some great info. I have questions, though about how to proceed within the backdrop of the AI.
I did test strongly for killing off a Brucella infection and a few nasty viruses gone rampant. The drops were placed in my field along with some Samento, Olive Leaf Extract, and Bar-1. The result was a pretty clear yes from my body.
D A suggested going on these killing agents for a month, then resuming the drops cycle. Does anyone here have experience with a procedure like this? Will I have to wait an additional month after I go off of these agents? Does waiting 2 or 3 months between rounds upset the apple cart?
Also, does anyone know which round of AI checks for lead? It turns out that my spine and hips are full of the stuff. I did not test for any type of chelators, though. I'm hoping the drops are taking care of that aspect.And since lead is such a common heavy metal culprit, I'm assuming that it was checked out near the first few rounds.
I took 2 of my daughters out to WA with me. We were all checked and all came back with renewed hope. They both tested very strongly to continue on with the drops, even though they do not experience much relief as of yet.
One of the daughters tested strongly for Diflucan. Again, will she have to wait an additional month when finished with the Rx.
Any experience is welcome.
Thanks.
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