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I'm really torn. I had 2 shiatsu treatments, and both brought me further into balance than I've felt in ages. I'm still not clear tho on where shiatsu is allowed on allergie immun. I really don't want to interfere with AI, I'm just struggling with the detox side of things. I'm having a lot of kidney pain lately. Taking lots of chlorella and having lots of epsom salts baths is helpful, but I never really feel like I'm on top of it.
Can anyone tell me yay or nay to the shiatsu? If it's ok then I'll go regularly for a while. He confirmed what I already felt - that my kidneys are struggling. Lungs too. He said i have a lot of stagnant energy in my body, and I feel that too - it feels like I'm recirculating a lot instead of getting it out.
I am in the process of ordering a biotensor - jsut have to decide which of the 3 to choose - anyone have any advise on that one? IT's for my whole family too.
I don't want to start in on parasite cleanses until my little one are weaned - that is coming up shortly I think. I'm not sure tho whether I"ll have access to drug treatments for parasites. Things are really tightening up here regulation-wise.
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Gigi! Sorry I missed your post about the Nazanol from Metagenix. I ordered some. Thank you again for the valuable suggestions.
After two weeks of a swollen face and primordial green ooze clogging everything, it started to move to my lungs as well and I succumbed to abx path. I continue the AI, but have added the dreaded Omnicef for ten days.
After having battled the whole pneumonia thing, I didn't want my lungs to be assaulted again so soon. I'm on the fifth day of abx and the green is mostly gone as is the face pain. I am hoping that I can begin the Nazonal when the abx is done in five more days. The delivery times may coincide.
The Omnicef has helped in clearing the immediate gunk, but it also makes me feel spacey, depressed and out of it. I know I'll have to deal with it's fallout. I also know that everything is recirculating around. So much of these abx symptoms are familiar from the Lyme long-term abx days. I will be happy to be off the stuff, but they're serving a short-term purpose.
If sinus stuff should appear again, I'll be better armed with Nazonal as an alternative treatment.
In the meantime, the snowfall is beautiful, the air is crisp and snow shoveling powder is fun. Wishing everyone happy winter scapes.
Best,
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Skiesmama - If I were going to choose one biotensor, it would be the one from bioplasma.
I have another one that I sometimes use traveling but I don't find it any where near as sensitive.
If I had started with that one I think I would have been frustrated. The more sensitive one seemed to help me learn how to use the less sensitive (if that makes sense).
Might we worth the investment if you are using it for your whole family.
Wish I had an answer for you about shiatsu.
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My biotensor is on the way
Woooo Hoooo
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I tried the more expensive gold biotensor when in Germany and could not get it to work. So, I went with Vernon's bobbers (small biotensor) and I could get it to easily work.
I realize this is probably the opposite of what Nanadubo said, but you might first want to try a cheaper one (I paid twenty dollars) to see if you can actually make it work. Or try a pendulum or a gold ring on a chain to see if you can get it to move before putting a lot of money into a biotensor. Some of my friends cannot get a biotensor or pendulum to work.
Dr. W in Germany, who uses the bionic for healing, and tests with the biotensor, of course has an expensive gold one, but he suggested I go with the smaller cheaper one or a ring on a chain. It works for me.
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Re shiatsu since shiatsu can do what acupuncture does and can move energy around as well as metals and other toxins, I would go easy with it. How about lymphatic drainage massage or gentle Swedish massage?
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hiker53,
If I'm just starting out (muscle testing using biotensor)
are there some good videos I can watch? Introductory stuff?
I'm a newb to the whole muscle testing game
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People who are still very toxic and have blocked regulation more than not, have difficulty with tensor. Dyhydration and lack of electrolytes don't help. --
It takes patience; it takes a person to be well hydrated with electrolytes, and it takes a quiet room with no tv or radio going. And no naysayers to interfer with bad energy.
Put yourself in the favorite spot of your home and "find your center" before you start. It will not work if you don't. And learn to be neutral putting "wishful thinking" out of the way. It will not work. A sensitive tensor reacts before you are even aware of your thought running through your head. That is due to the difference in construction. It doesn't mean that you can't help yourself with a homemade one. And we can't compare a Porsche with a bicycle.
Learn how to find out if you have blocked or have open regulation. That is the first thing you need to learn. If you are blocked, your body cannot reveal the truth, because the energy cannot flow. Compare it to a lamp that won't light up when you turn it on because the wires are frayed and don't connect.
Once you get it and learn to tensor, there is nothing much better getting you through the day. I totally agree with Nana re choice, but very sensitive decisions I make with the Bioplasma tensor and I know that I will use it for the rest of my life or at least as long as I am able to hold it up in my hand. It is the best investment I have made.
Keep detoxing, so that you can start living with open regulation all the time. When I first got ill, I was solidly blocked for close to two years. I gave Dr. K. a run for his money guessing what might open it, so that he could go on testing. Tapping wasn't known that well in those days and you can at least temporarily help yourself by the tapping procedure. Or you can use your intuition and hold the very toxin in your field that will open you. Then you will know that that is paramount in your body's mind and needs treatment desperately. You keep it on your body to keep regultion open, and continue testing for the remedy that your body really craves.
If it turns out to be charcoal, you know that you need to do binder. If it is DMSA, then you know that your body needs this as a mobilizer. If it is Milk Thistle, you know your body wants organ support, etc. If does not test, don't use it. Best way is to mark your testers in such a way that you won't know what is in it without looking closer.
Got to run.
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Skiesmama,
"I'm really torn. I had 2 shiatsu treatments, and both brought me further into balance than I've"
Agree with Lex re Shiatsu -
Hurting kidneys, etc. is not a good thing. So I would leave more mobilizing therapies alone for a while longer -- later on Shiatsu, it's great. Lymphatic drainage, colonics, and more organ support. Test yourself for cilantro tincture - I am sure you are safe with rubbing a few drops onto the back in kidney area. If it tests energetically, it is nice to rub onto wrists, for upper region, and onto ankles for lower region. Just a few drops. Don't drown in it.
Hold the bottle onto the area that you want to help - if tensor agrees - rub in a few drops. I do it still on an old heel fracture where metals tend to accumulate. Back of neck, little down spine, are all areas where metals get hung up.
If cilantro tests, rub it in. It gets to the area much more quickly than going through stomach.
Don't use a lot of cilantro tincture too early. It does cross the blood brain barrier (science available) and doing it too early in the detox phase is not wise. Use it only if it tests energetically.
Help clear kidneys - they do not repair like liver does - Renelix; Unda 243 (Seroyal, Genestra, Pharmax - in Toronto).
Take care.
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Good info GiGi
Thanks
I'm sure it'll just take some time playing around with it.
Yesterday I muscle tested (without the tensor) chlorella vs modifilan and the modifilan was a clear NO. Chlorella was an obvious YES.
I could feeeeeel my body regecting the modifilan away. Hard to explain.
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I must be blocked. My tensor moves up and down, then side to side, then up and down, and back and forth (like it's confused....perhaps it is, just like me!)
In the meantime, my husband has been doing some basic muscle testing on me (but not all the time).
It is my desire to bring testing into my every day life. I am going to try to find some helpful videos on youtube, etc. If anyone has any suggestions/advice, please let me know.
I will be sending in my saliva sample for round 2 tomorrow. It's been 2 weeks since I finished Round 1. I noticed some folks send in their saliva samples right away. Is that okay or is it best to wait the 2 weeks (as instructed by AI)?
Hope you are all well, Tammy
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I can typically feel it when I am blocked now and tensor goes nowhere - dead in the water.
I start grabbing things and putting them in the top of my jeans until I find what will open me up. Also can use vials to see what is blocking you - heavy metals etc.
Gigi taught me the "crown" method a couple of years ago. Works like a charm.
Shape your left hand and fingers like a crown, fingers pointing down on top of your head. Tensor should go up and down. Turn the crown over (fingers point up) and tensor should move in opposite direction. If it does not move - you are blocked.
Before doing that, you can practice by simply asking it to show you "yes" and then show you "no".
I find statements work better than questions. "This would be good for me to take - I should take one, I should take two..... when you reach the right number, it will give you a no beyond that.
Tammy, If you wait two weeks before sending a new sample, you are likely to be 5-6 weeks in between rounds. The drops you just took already did the work - I would send of new samples right away.
The instructions are old and were formatted when most of his clients were in Europe and the mail is quick. Not the case getting back and forth from Germany.
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Thanks NanaDubo. You are right, now I will be about 5-6 weeks between rounds. I hope that is okay.
I thought the waiting period was to allow the drops to settle in and finish their work. Then send new saliva to see how things have settled.
Next time I'll send saliva in right away.
Have a great day, Tammy
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The crown technique works beautifully (mentioned above). Thanks Gigi for sharing this.
Re biotensor, you got to start somewhere, sometime. No time like the present to start practising, as I am doing. My regulation seems to be on but fungus sets it off.
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Is anyone using Dr. K's CDS, where you listen to the sounds for Borrellia, parasites, fungus or whatever?
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I talked with the practitioner doing the shiatsu treatments more about not mobilzing - he said that he will just focus on organ support. I feel better after each treatment. A lot better. I've been having kidney pain all along - it has come and go.
For what it's worth, he's very skilled at what he does - he worked for a year with the Dalai Lama's physician on top of his other training.
I think I will book a colonic tho - I've never had one, and I for some reason forgot all about them - I'm sure that would be helpful right now.
I'm taking renelix, and doing epsom salts baths daily.
Unfortunately, I'm really limited in my options for support due to my location. I don't think that I would be feeling better if the shiatsu wasn't what my body needs. I have too many kids needing me to be sick all the time.
I'm getting more exercise now too - I just started skiing. It made my body tired and sore, but it sure made a huge improvement mentally. The good news is that I went a 2nd time yesterday, and I was barely even sore, so I think I'm making good progress - in fact the shiatus practitiioner said that he noticed an improvement.
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Just to clarify- I've been having kidney pain off and on since I started AI - it didn't start after the shiatsu.
I really appreciate all the input very much. I'll test for the cilantro tincture too - I have my own that I made actually, so that's easy.
One more question - I understand that we don't want to mobilize toxins - but will the shiatsu interfere with AI in another way? Is the reason not to do it soley that we don't want to mobilze, or is there another reason. I feel like I will know if it's not right in terms of mobilizing, from how I feel after a treatment, but I'm still not clear on whether it will actually interfere with the AI treatments?
I've honestly never seen someone who helped me this much before - I really need to feel better so that I can function as a mom to my kids. I've been unwell so much of their life - chronic low health - they need me, and they are growing so fast. I feel like I have to go with anything that makes me feel better.
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Skiesmama, go with what works for you. If the shiatu is making you feel better, that may just be what you need to help you detox. I don't think it would interfere with AI in any other way. It's noninvasive, is not adding any mobilizers to the mix. Ask your body when it needs it, how often, how much. A practitioner doesn't have to work for an hour -- they can do a half hour session if that's what your body calls for. Some shiatsu practitioners can read pulses -- those are the best ones.
Even too much walking may not be good for a person; always run things by your body and ask it: do I need shiatsu today? For how long? Can my body handle it? Do I need to take anything before the treatment ? After?
It's not unusual to have the kidneys back up with so much flooding going on with AI. Always make sure you have enough drainers on board, for kidneys, liver, colon. Vary them. Ask. Would an epsom salt bath help me afterwards? Should I take one before tx.? Yatta yatta.
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I have too many kids needing me to be sick all the time.
You don't need to be sick for your kids, do you?
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Skiesmama, shiatsu will not interfer with AI. Yes, the opposite of what you say, we do want to mobilize toxins - that is the purpose to get them moving and leaving the body. But there is a big difference between mobilizing and getting them to finally leave the body.
If - with whatever method - you mobilize tooo much, where kidney and liver and other organs get overly stressed - that is the bad part. So going slow and with a lot of organ support is most important.
Be careful with cilantro tincture and use it only when you test for it. It crosses the blood brain barrier --- I have talked a lot about it and it needs to be used with respect. Make sure you use only organic cilantro.
You may feel good initially right after a treatment - one reason being - things have been moved and possibly shifted or possibly moving out. Just don't do too much and give the body time to detox what has been stirred up.
Metal detox should only be attempted with the help and testing of someone who knows. It is not a do-it-yourself project. I have learned a lot, but even I go get help when I feel I am off course.
The first act in detox is --- mobilizing, but then you need to appropriate agents on board to get them out. Colonics, several in a row, help. Read some of the protocols from Dr.K. I have been posting. Binders, etc. are most important.
Got to go. Shiatsi therapist should be able to advise you dealing with the after effects. I hope he understands heavy metal toxicity. If not, you need to find someone who does.
Best to you.
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Today I had terrible toxic exposure. I was visiting a sick relative who had a kerosene heater blasting in his basement. when I entered the house, I smelled the fumes in his kitchen.
I didn't mean to stay so long, but I ended up staying an hour or so.
About an hour later, the pain hit me right in my weak spot - the lower back. I can hardly walk now, and have a hard time sitting and standing.
I've done coffee enemas, a sauna, the 3 pekana drainage products, chlorella, minerals, electrolytes, and a large gluten-free pizza to wash down my troubles.
So far, nothing has helped. Does anyone have any other recommendations? I had no idea that fumes could cause this much trouble. This has set me back for sure.
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most shiatsu therapists, like most drs., know nothing about metals. You know more than 99 percent of the practitioners out there.
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Do the ASK AND RECEIVE on yourself,The Joeje. Perhaps investigate how to do a Religious Science (Ernest Holmes) treatment...the mind is a powerful tool but most of the time we let the body run our lives.
A good book to study is Dr. John Sarno's MIND OVER BACK PAIN. He believes back pain is 99 percent emotional. there's a lot of good insights in there. When we label ourselves with this or that illness we lock ourselves in a cage -- like the mime in the box who can't get out until he just lets the bars melt away.
I am working on these things myself. . .
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quote:Originally posted by wiserforit2: OMG -- I have a sinus infection big time! Haven't had one in twenty years. ENT wants me on Omnicef 300 mg. for ten days. No Neti-Pot/Steaming/Vitamin C/Vitamin A is doing a thing for this infection and my face and head hurt!
Any other options that people have used besides the abx?
thanks!
My ENT wanted me on steroid spray and I rejected that because steroids about killed me two years ago when I took them. Although, there isn't much that will get into your blood stream with the nasal spray, it's not worth the risk. I had a horrible infection and this is how I got in under control.
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My only comment: Very early in the detox phase, I learned to be careful and did not take saunas. The increased circulation can send the toxins in the opposite direction. It was not "recommended" to me to do sauna until many, many months later after starting general detox. I had been treated close to three years before I started sauna.
I never liked these toxic odors and still don't. The level of sensitivity in the early years is so strong that we are almost paranoid about any odors. ANS gone haywire! We smell it when nobody else does. I remember smelling basil once outside a small store that was selling it fresh inside --- I ran like a crazy woman. I still have a strong sense of smell, but now I cook with it all the time.
Don't let the imagination take over. I know, when it hurts it hurts. Just be careful with sauna -- that is all I can say. If the major toxic metals are still in the gut and lower area, they can easily go the wrong direction if pushed.
Testing and timing is important.
Take care.
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Once in awhile--especially on weekends I like one cup of organic caffeinated coffee. Wonder if this interferes with metals binding in the digestive tract or if it would speed their leaving the digestive tract?
I don't drink it when I am teaching or I would be running to the restroom.
Hope everyone is safe during the winter storms. We are expecting a foot of snow in the next few days. At least I am well enough to shovel now!!
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Ordered Allergie Immune..can anyone tell me how long it takes to receive the test? I ordered this almost three weeks ago and live in the USA but it still has not arrived. Thanks.
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I know it's me but everytime I try to correspond with AI it comes back in German. If I email back and ask for the reply in english, it still comes back in german. Can someone direct me how to do it correctly for get an english response. Thanks.
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I have too many kids needing me to be sick all the time.
You don't need to be sick for your kids, do you?
I left out a comma after "me". My kids need me. I'm sick and or depressed much of the time - too much. I was stating that they need me to be well. *I* need me to be well, so that I can be more available to them.
My children are growing up while year after year passes of me trying to find a way to get well. I'm not as ill as many people here, but I've been depressed my whole life, and experience crippling brain fog. I want to be well.
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our words have tremendous power. Our unconscious mind does not know that we mean; we have to tell IT.
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1) I sent off a sample over 3 weeks ago and have not gotten a reply. The company is small; the demand is high.
2) I doubt you will often get a reply from a German company in English. Once in awhile Mr. G replies in English, but it is hard to understand. Just copy their response and put it in google translator and you will get the gist of it.
3) You could also call, but that would probably be even harder to communicate.
Best wishes.
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It's apparent that HG is a solo practitoner who works from his home as do many of us. We pay once until we're released -- there's little or no hand holding along the way because of the language barrier. Thanks to GiGi for helping us through. Those of us who have been at AI a while have read all the entire thread. Suggest anyone who is on it or who is considering it, read read read because the answers are there.
We are pioneers -- not an easy place to be -- but this is our fate.
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I have read and been reading for many months and you have options as far as just the test or complete as Gigi explained to me. I am not able to retain everything i read due to my illnesses but try my best. So thanks for your advise although I dont post often I read here every day and night. Hiker: Yes, I was able to get some help and wasn't sure what wait time I should expect. Thanks.
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Trishc, I ordered the test from the English site and within two days got instructions via email in English to send in a saliva sample and a list of my symptoms.
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six thanks, that is exactly what i finally received yesterday and i also ordered from the english site. It's after several weeks I wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something as I am more than capable of making mistakes like that. thanks for the response
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Terrible brain fog after the Fungus CD...biotensor calling for green clay. A rough road, pot hole after pot hole but my spirit is great. Art therapy helps.
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Those of you who are going to be in NYC next week please notify me privately so I know who you are. Would be glad to connect and see your faces. Expect snow; dress warmly. People from all over the world will be there, even Australia. GiGi, I wish you could be with us.
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Lex, I wish I could be there too. Just all make sure that you have a recorder and at least some of you sit next to a loudspeaker. That is how I recorded most seminars, long before DVD's were done or available. I warn you that it is very difficult to retain all the info that especially Dr. K. puts out. He speaks non stop, often without any notes, departing from the power point. The last day morning session is often one of the best. And have your questions ready. I know you will enjoy it as I always have and learn a lot! I am sure he will tell me all about the Lymies that he met.
Take care.
Hiker, I never stopped drinking coffee and never stopped eating the good foods. In fact, last I heard "coffee is an anti-oxidant". Enjoy it.
Re delay in mail from overseas: Since the "printer cartridge" incident, the cargo on planes is checked a lot more and I am sure that accounts for part of the delay. I figure 10 days going and 10 days coming back, and the people there also need some time to do the work. They speak German because that is the language of the land. Google or a second hand dictionary will help. If they were to hire people to do all the technical translating, they would have to charge a lot more. It is a gift as it is.
Their phone is always answered, even on Saturday til 1 PM. I have always been able to talk to them - never an answering machine, but real bodies, to answer my questions (in German). And they are especially helpful when trying to understand the emotional releases that undoubtedly happen. I have never received such great service from anyone I had to deal with as I have from AI. This is not a money business - they really care about the people and want to improve lifes. It is a family business father started many years ago and son took over some 15 years ago. Did you know they are also treating pets? Pets usually need it after they get their vaccinations .........
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Thank you all for your suggestions. The acute back pain is about 60% gone at this point.
Received my 6th round of drops today. All that is left is 3 energetic "blockades". Does anyone know if this means that all other chemical and biological substances are cleared?
I do feel better this month -- fatigue has definitely improved a bit, I do not have any more "crashes", sleeping is better,I'm not as dependent upon coffee, I am much better at remembering things, and I am able to stick to a yoga routine every morning for about 30 minutes--unthinkable several months ago!
I have high hopes for the rest of my family, and all of you as well. We must all have faith, trust that the drops are doing their thing, and work hard to make positive changes to our lives.
Hang in there everybody!
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thejoje,
"All that is left is 3 energetic "blockades". Does anyone know if this means that all other chemical and biological substances are cleared?"
No, there could be just as many, more, or less blockages coming up, as the testing is entering other/deeper levels.
Feeling better is the main thing. Let the detoxing continue.
Sounds like you are doing real good! Great.
Take care.
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I think I am finally ready to pursue allergie-immune for my 6 year old twin boys. We think their lyme is gone but they still have some behavior and attention issues. I think KPU could be an issue and am in the process of getting that testing done.
I do plan to read the entire thread but in the meantime, I would like to get my order in, so can someone just confirm that all I need to do to order at this point is click on where it says REGU-IMMUNE THERAPY? Then they will send me a test kit and I send in some saliva? How much is the 450,00 in American dollars?
If anyone can share info on what to expect with young children taking this therapy, it would be so helpful. Can behavior or hyperactivity get worse? Should I expect them to be in much pain? Can this therapy be done while treating KPU and treating neurotransmitter imbalances? Is this a recommended therapy for autistic children?
Gigi - I know your grandchildren have taken it...any info from their experience would be much appreciated. Did they have many symptoms from it during treatment?
I just am trying to get a feel for what to expect as my children take it. Perhaps I will take it at the same time so I can understand what they are going through, as I'm sure I need it as well.
Thanks so much,
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tick battler--450 euros is around 600 American dollars, but the exchange rate varies day to day. I just googled it for today and it was $611.
If you are on the English version of allergie-immun, click on order now and then the pay now portion will come up.
dodmom2--You can just order the test if you wish and than order the treatment later.
They may send you an e-mail of how to send in the sample rather than send a test kit. If the response comes in German, use google translator.
I just put some saliva or a drop of blood on a paper towel or gauze strip, wrap it a bit of plastic baggie, and then aluminum foil and stick it in a envelope to mail. The new address is on the German site, but they may e-mail you that information.
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I am weaning off ativan -- that may be why I feel so dizzy. I didn't sleep a wink last night. I am also getting excited about going to the Klinghardt seminar in NYC. I am on a very small dose but even so....
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tickbattler - dogmom2
In addition to sending saliva or a drop of blood, also put name of person on the baggie.
Include a sheet of paper (one for each person),with name, age and gender. A list of symptoms (one or two words - no long sentences) should be included in the envelope as well.
seekhelp - yes the price went up but $600 for a therapy that some people are ending up on for 1 or 2 years (in the US mostly) is still pretty darned inexpensive. That's not $600 a bottle, it's $600 for the duration.
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Thanks NanaDubo - I just paid today for two of us so far...maybe will pay for three and then send all of ours together.
Just to clarify - we can just put a small bit of saliva on some gauze or paper towel and wrap it in foil? Should we put it in a plastic baggie first?
Does it matter if we took homeopathic remedies or supplements the same day? I'm wondering if we should stop all remedies and supplements for a day before we take our saliva sample.
Sorry if these are duplicate questions...am making my way through the thread but it is very long and I need to go to bed now!
Thanks,
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tick battler - yes, put the gauze in a ziploc bag (different bag for each sample).
I don't think supplements will interfere with anything he is testing, although less might be better. If you are sending multiple samples, don't forget to put a little piece of masking tape or something with the persons names on the sample.
Just fold the papers with all the info around the baggies so it all fits in a regular business envelope so you don't have to fill out any customs forms.
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