springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
CD57
Yes if the bug does not cause a herx so much you should just feel better.
I have noticed some things causes a herx and some I just feel better.
So track your reactions as you start to treat and that will let you know where your at.
If no change.. Maybe you do not have it at all If herx you may have to feel worse before better andI IF just better right off the bat and onward then you are getting rid or doing something right. keep going : )
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
map1131
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 2022
posted
Dan and Spring, my machine Beam Ray will run programs with any number of freqs and it also can be programmed to sweep or pulse each freq.
Pam
-------------------- "Never, never, never, never, never give up" Winston Churchill Posts: 6495 | From Louisville, Ky | Registered: Jan 2002
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
I did not think any of the Rife Labs machines could run automatic sequences of frequencies. Mine does not, but if you have a model that does, I was just unaware of it.
It is a handy feature to have.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
posted
I am wondering if they are not catching that you are saying from Rife Labs. Not rife machines in general.
That site I saw for Rife Labs seems to be one that is offering them to buy it and they are offering to anyone that wants that domain. Too bad. I wonder what's going on, if the son is going to take up building the machines or not.
kidsgotlyme
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 23691
posted
Hey Rifers! I have a question for you.
I ran the four frequencies that DT recommends with his machine last night. Today, my stomach is having the WEIRDEST pains. It's almost like an itch inside my stomach.
Has anybody else experienced this?
christie
-------------------- symptoms since 1993 that I can remember. 9/2018 diagnosed with Borellia, Babesia Duncani, and Bartonella Hensalae thru DNA Connections. Posts: 1470 | From Tennessee | Registered: Dec 2009
| IP: Logged |
posted
Hi. I was wondering if you could use a rife machine on a young child. Where can I find information on rife machines and pediatric lyme patients? My child is currently on IV zith, Mepron and Minocycline.
Posts: 15 | From princeton, nj | Registered: Feb 2010
| IP: Logged |
METALLlC BLUE
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 6628
posted
In Sylvers book she says that Rife machines are useful for many kids, but that the parent should be aware that children respond differently than adults and that the parents should monitor the condition and go slowly.
That's all I remember.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
METALLlC BLUE
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 6628
posted
I updated my Rife Frequency list here on Lymenet. Please feel free to add commentary on the Frequencies I have (whether they helped or didn't for that particular problem).
Feel free to give listings of your frequencies as well.
I started a new post/thread to help all us beginners and also help some of you veterans save some time when responding to us newbies.
I am asking for all rifers input so I can put together something to help us all help each other.
Please take the time to visit the post "Rifer's: Favorite freq's......"
I believe it will be a valuable tool for all of us but, I need all of your input. Please take some time, write the freq you most value and have seen the greatest benefit and how long and how often to get someone started.
Thank you for all your help Blessings Dr.Dave
Posts: 41 | From Pa | Registered: Jan 2010
| IP: Logged |
pamoisondelune
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11846
posted
More about Toenail Fungus:
I did the 3 channels for Trychophytie Nagel in the GB-4000 manual (which i posted) on Wed, but it didn't stop the cracked heel from hurting. It didn't work as i wanted it to work. I had to apply aloe.
Then there was a 72-hour power failure when i couldn't rife. During that time i took 3 doses of antibiotics, for protection and partly to see what the reaction would be, since i've been off abx a month.
The sore crack in the heel stopped hurting! This indicates that there was a bacterial component to the infection along with the fungus.
In fact, my doctor did mention a possible bacterial component of some Trychophyton infections.
----Polly Polygonum ----or Nilufar Knotweed
Posts: 1226 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
| IP: Logged |
CD57
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11749
posted
where is your new thread Dr Dave? Over in general support?
Posts: 3528 | From US | Registered: Apr 2007
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
I think it is great to have so much interest in rife and a support thread that is staying alive!!
Also others who are starting other threads. I though might suggest that you keep your questions in this one because the others may end up being lost down the line because the rife subject has been very hard to keep ongoing as a subject that stays this strong. As a matter of fact this has been amazing that this thread has so much life and activity.
The reason I am say this is so that valuable information that might be in those other threads (though good intention and maybe a specific subject matter or topic) may be totally lost and not included in the reading.
I myself to end up going to look for these other threads and one day I was lucky and the other day not etc..
Just an idea.. If you could also post the same question or idea or information here as well? If it is not tooo much trouble?
Just throwing out the ideas.. its all up to you of course.
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
CD57
How are things going for you? Have you been starting the rife yet or still reading up?
Let us know ok?
Blessings
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
posted
I agree with SS -- I had no idea that there were other rife threads out there. I remember that MB had one a while back, but haven't seen it in a while.
It would be great to have all the questions & frequency postings on this thread so it is easier to keep track of everything.
Posts: 379 | From Sydney, Australia | Registered: Nov 2008
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
676 hz for H-Pylori needs to be run five or six days in a row to permanently get rid of H-pylori in the stomach. It may take longer to remove it from the whole body.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
posted
Thanks Dan! We started...and we will do it for a week and see what happens!
Deb G
Posts: 499 | From Malta, NY | Registered: Dec 2008
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
If burning Stomach pain is the symptom, which is what I had, you should notice relief shortly after treatment.
I accidentally found out the right pathogen by running a group of H-Pylori frequencies, which were the only frequencies that made the symptoms go away.
I later came across the method to get rid of it permanently by reading Aubrey Scoon's article in the link below.
posted
Thanks Dan...my daughter describes it as her intestines feel like their twisting and very painful. Little heartburn. The reason I thought we would try an H Pylori frequency is because she tested positive for it back in November and was treated for two weeks.
I thought perhaps it was never fully eradicated and it wouldnt hurt to try. That feeling is better except for she has always had a lot of GI issue since dx.
Thanks for the help..
Deb G
Posts: 499 | From Malta, NY | Registered: Dec 2008
| IP: Logged |
(We can add to this every time we find a new frequency to use:
612 is the best frequency we use. that is a ten for sure.
You bring up a good point, in that certain harmonics of 612 may work better. We have used 306 which is a lower harmonic of 612. It never worked as well as 612. Your higher harmonic of 1224 worked better than 612. To try a higher harmonic simply keep doubling the frequency 306, 612, 1224 are all different harmonics of the same frequency.
The second most effective is 432 hz. It is about a nine in effectiveness. Other than that, I just ran all of the listed frequencies in the CAFL. I do not know which are effective or not.
I only have really tested frequencies in the Mhz range designed to affect the DNA of Lyme. These are more experimental and do not appear to work at lower ranges of frequencies. They do affect the bacteria, but that does not mean they are damaging or killing them. I will know more over time.
started out using my machine (I have a DT EMEM5) twice a week for babs. The first few times I did 570, 20 and 27 for 2 minutes each. After like the 3rd time I increased each frequency by one minute until I worked my way up to 5 minutes each frequency. Then I heard that 76 was a possible babs frequency so I added that one to the mix. I would say it took me about 3 months to kick babs this way.
We use 125 Hz, 570 Hz, 612 Hz, 832 Hz, 942 Hz (1 minute each)
EMEM5 dual tube machine from rife labs.
Lyme Program (3 minutes each progamed) 799-803-640-847-1087-1112-1455-2016-2050-4320-6870
I then do
Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-5162
I didn't feel any herx, so 5 days later I went up to 1 min on each frequency - no herx. 5 days later 1.30 min - no herx. 5 days later 2.00 min and finally a herx. Babs frequencies: 570,20,27,76,5776,753,432,1584,1583 all 2 mins. I do this every Monday & Thursday. Then every 2 weeks I do the lyme frequencies. Babesia - 76, 570, 1583, 1584, 432, 753, 5776
I added in the 72 and 120 and it hit me with the biggest punch yet... Reminder about 72 and 120 ... Nynah Silver writes that those two numbers kill 75 percent of parasites.
2016 Best frequency yet: Dan B.
For fatigue, I would run some Strep frequencies.
Strep infection is real common in even healthy people.
I use muscle testing and so frequencies vary but the frequency for wolhynia fever (a type of rickettsia) is always involved for me. It is 547.
I also often need zygomycosis (fungal infection) frequencies - one or more of these 942, 623, 733
AND
Zearalenone (a potent mycotoxin found in grains) - one or more of these 4978.71 and 247.88
The pain was so bad one time, I thought I was going to pass out -- so I took out my machine and rifed for 5 minutes on the Dysmenorrhea setting of 727 & 880.
And what do you know -- my cramps went away. Ever since then, I rife for cramps and it works.
Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-516
H.pylori 676
-------------------- Diagnosed with :yme and mycoplasma pneumonia Aug 08. Treating with Doxy and Ceftin ever since. 15 sessions in hyperbaric o2 chamber Posts: 183 | From all around | Registered: Jul 2008
| IP: Logged |
posted
A woman I know sent me this message. I'm wondering whether part or all of her opinions are valid and if so, have these concerns been dealt with in any machines? When I get my new roof paid off, I plan on buying a machine. ----
"You might want to know my hubby has researched and tested Rife quite a bit, the problem with most (all we have seen) rife "machines" is that they now use transistors instead of the original gas tubes that Rife used. These "back enginered machines" give "results" however they are not beneficial in the long run as they cause more problems than they treat. Much like a harsh "medicine" that gives results yet has side effects. Even the machines with "tubes" have computers and transisters supplying the power to those tubes, so you end up problems. Rife DID have a great machine, healed some, (even killed a few because it worked too well & fast and the toxins of dead cells were too much) A "true Rife" will have only one line to the bulb, it will be cold - no heat to the bulb, and a longitutidal wave instead of transverse wave. (ie Teslas's one line power transmitter )"
Posts: 258 | From Spokane, WA | Registered: Oct 2008
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
It is partly correct, in that the new machines do not completely duplicate Rife's original machine.
The side effects mentioned are unknown to me, but it is true that the new machines are not as effective with Cancer in particular, as the original. I know of no side effects from any frequency treatment for any condition.
No one was ever killed from a frequency treatment to my knowledge, although lab animals were killed in finding the correct frequencies and general testing.
I have never had a hot plasma tube. The power levels of most machines are not enough to produce heat.
The longitudinal wave is speculation. Even its existence is not well accepted. You cannot even test for this type of wave, so its presence certainly was not known in the thirties. It is not measurable today.
There is a new device that will be available in April that will work with the GB-4000. It is as close to a original Rife device as is possible without using a Faraday cage to contain stray frequencies.
I will likely be getting one of these devices. I will let you know what my results are then.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
pamoisondelune
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11846
posted
I rife on the Bartonella channel from CAFL and the Toxoplasmosis group in the GB-4000 manual, usually every time i rife, mostly every other day. The Toxoplasmosis frequencies are 434 4340 852 8520.
Both of those channels make me FEEL GOOD. I LIKE THEM. They make me feel as if they are helping me. I imagine that both of these channels may be helping treat my eye pains.
In other words, i am TRUSTING my SUBJECTIVE reaction. I have NO OBJECTIVE INDICATION that i have either Bartonella or Toxoplasmosis--- but because these channels make me feel good (i imagine), i then conclude that i have Bartohella and Toxoplasmosis. And i'm not DOUBTING my subjective reaction--- it feels good, and i BELIEVE it is good, whatever it is and for whatever reason. I don't feel any doubt or indecision.
One OBJECTIVE piece of information i can give you in a few months is----- i can count the number of eye pains in my notes to see if they are less than the average from two or three years ago. Every eye pain i've had in the last 5 1/2 years is COUNTABLE in my extensive daily notes (except when i'm asleep of course).
That might indicate that rife treatment for lyme, bartonella, toxoplsamosis, or other, has diminished the number of eye pains, if in fact that's the result after 3 or 6 months or so.
----Polly Polygonum ---or Nilufar Knotweed
Posts: 1226 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
| IP: Logged |
tick battler
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 21113
posted
Polly,
That's a great way to note improvement. It's the way I have been able to determine if my young children are getting better.
Each day I track symptoms and then in another spot list each symptom and which days of the month it happened on. That way I can count how many times per month that symptom occurred.
tickbattler
Posts: 1763 | From Malvern, PA | Registered: Jul 2009
| IP: Logged |
posted
Two questions? What frequencies do you use for strep (on an EMEM)? I haven't tried that and would like to. My frequency list which I got from the company I bought my machine from lists: 453, 676, 727, 1109, 2600, 7160.
Second question- how many of you who rife are still under a doctor's care for lyme?
Posts: 63 | From eastern Washinton state | Registered: Jan 2008
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
My wife has never been under a doctors care for Lyme. They determined she just had spontaneous Arthritis after a Deer Tick bite.
If they cannot even diagnose a rather obvious infection, they certainly are not qualified to treat it either.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
gwb
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 7273
posted
Ooops, just now noticed that pamoisodelune has been posting here on this thread. So maybe you've already brought this up here? Sorry if this has been mentioned already.
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
There are problems with the F-Scan from what others that use it, have determined.
One big problem that is hard to resolve is how do you distinguish between a harmful bacteria and a beneficial or benign one?
I am not too sold on its ability to pick out a pathogen, but I have not used one either.
I would place a little more stock in a EAV device, only because it is a German invention, and they seem to be very good at this type of technology.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
gwb
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 7273
posted
I was hoping you'd chime in on this, Dan. Thanks for your input. I always appreciate reading what you have to say on rife machines and similar like equipment.
posted
I'm pretty excited, I believe I herxed last night. I didn't expect to herx, because I am still getting abx shots and just got them Thur. Plus, I just never herxed much at all.
I ran 2016 for 5 mins. and 10,000 for 10 earlier Sat. Then in the evening, while watching tv, I started getting rls. I haven't had that for yrs. My face started feeling jumpy here and there, and it felt like one of my headaches was coming on.
I was a bit restless when I went to bed and when I had my usual time of insomnia instead of just lying there waiting to go back to sleep I was highly aggitated.
I feel fine right now with just a bit of rls. I have decided I am going to rife every week.
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
My wife had the face reaction also when using 2016 for a longer run time, right after we started using that frequency.
Since we had used 612 Hz for a long time, and I am pretty sure that kills Spirochetes, I could only surmise that 2016 hz kills other forms of Lyme, all though I was not sure what other form.
The fact that you reacted even though you are using ABX kind of confirms it in my mind that cyst form is about all you could have to hit.
That is an early reaction to die off near the surface of the body I am guessing. It takes longer to get deep into the tissue, and even longer to clear out the joints.
I am very interested in your future reactions to the 2016 Hz frequency. If it is correct, that you are hitting cyst form, then your Herx should not be as intense as when Spirochetes are killed. At least that is our experience.
It should also follow that you are going to be able to gain on the Lyme, if you are in fact killing cyst form.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
pamoisondelune
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11846
posted
What is rls? restless leg syndrome?
Posts: 1226 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
| IP: Logged |
pamoisondelune
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11846
posted
Toenail fungus:
My toes are looking considerably better!
The thick, gray, cracked skin build-up is half gone, half the area is pink patches.
I posted earlier, way back, the frequencies for Toenail Fungus which is called "Trichophytie Nagel" in the GB-4000 manual. Also i've been doing the frequencies for "Wound Healing", which is for killing bacteria.
So i can't tell if the improved toes are because of killing bacteria or from the anti-fungal frequencies.
I can't see any difference yet in the toenails.
----Polly Polygonum ----or Nilufar Knotweed
Posts: 1226 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
Even if you killed all of the fungus on the Toenails, you probably would not see improvement until the nail grows out uninfected.
I hope this works for you. I don't know anyone else that has tried it before. Sounds like it is helping your toes at least.
Thanks for the report.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
Lauralyme
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 15021
posted
Polly try some Vicks on your toenails...it works
-------------------- Fall down seven times, get up eight ~Japanese proverb Posts: 1146 | From west coast | Registered: Mar 2008
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
If you have never seen this "Doug" story, here it is. It is an old article, but it gives you some historical perspective on how this method of treating Lyme developed.
posted
So if I herxed after a minute on 612, and am taking abx, what was dying off? I did another minute at 2000 as well as some supposed detox frequencies, so could the 2000 have been hitting cysts?
Posts: 360 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2009
| IP: Logged |
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
Upon doing research for my mother who has cancer and looking into IPT treatment for Cancer and for other diseases too.. I came across this local doctor and these videos
I only listened to the last one down and I am posting to ask you to listen to the last one down.
It talks about how disease is related to voltage in our bodies and after you listen to the whole thing it makes you think about various things in different ways. IT is very interesting and informative I thought.
Also made me think about Rife and how it might affect that voltage? What do you think?
springshowers
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19863
posted
SO if your rife and rife and stop herxing.. what should you do?
Keep on keeping on?
Or?
I so fear any relapse or regression backwards..
Is it helping me if I am no longer herxing? I can tell when I am not doing it at all though I start feeling a bit worse..
So it is helping sustain me?
Posts: 2747 | From Unites States Of America | Registered: Apr 2009
| IP: Logged |
MichaelTampa
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 24868
posted
Hello everybody, this is my first post on this forum.
I have a question about rife, but first a very brief background. I do not have diagnosed lyme, but suspected at this time. Currently awaiting doctor's appointments and lab results to get an opinion. I have been on and off disability a few times in last few years, disabled currently and will lose job if I can't get back to work in a few months. So, feeling some urgency to track down possible causes, and very much focusing on infection-related possibilities this time around. My biggest problem is sensitivity to wireless devices and fluorescent lights--two things that are spreading like wildfire out there in the real world. These things cause a long list of symptoms, including headaches, irritability/rage attacks, and inability to concenctrate/think well enough to have a conversation.
Really wanting to explore rife, but hoping there's a cheaper way to get started versus spending $2,000 or more on a machine, from what I see on the internet. Any alternative ideas out there?
I live in the Tampa, Florida area ... Any local health care places I could rent one, borrow one, buy a quality one used? Are there cheaper ones of a good quality, or reputable places to buy one used? Just basically looking for suggestions, money is tight but like the idea a lot compared to the alternatives, as I have symptoms that are very difficult for doctors to figure out.
Sure would hope to hear a story of someone being cured enough to not need it anymore, so they could sell it for a reasonable "used" price, but, maybe with the "chronic" concept, perhaps even those with whopping success would want to hang on to their machine...
Michael
Posts: 1927 | From se usa | Registered: Mar 2010
| IP: Logged |
D Bergy
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9984
posted
You will not herx, once you have spirochetes down to a minimal level. If you wait a few weeks, you will herx again.
To hit cyst form run either 2016 or 789,000. Sweep both frequencies also. And sweep 612 or 432 Hz also. It seems that there is some variation in the working frequency. Try sweeping a couple of hertz above and below these frequencies and see if you get a reaction.
Micheal, maybe you can find a naturopath or an integrated medicine doctor that can point you to a practitioner that has a frequency device.
Since you are not sure you have Lyme, it would be nice to try it first. If you use one of the frequencies above, you should be able to tell by your reaction, if you have it.
You can get a decent device for around $600.00 but if you do not have Lyme, it is possible it would not be as much help.
Dan
Posts: 2924 | From Minnesota | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
posted
SpringShowers -- not sure if I have any advice, just some random thoughts about your current situation....
- if you aren't feeling a reaction, i would move on to other frequencies BUT in a week or two come back to the frequencies that weren't giving a reaction.
- i have had times where certain frequenices didn't cause a herx and then the next week they did, i don't know how to explain it.
- still do your detox/suppport frequenices. i think those are helping you.
- maybe b/c of your abx regimen, you have a lot of cysts and that is why you aren't having a reaction?
- maybe look into the DNA frequenices and see if you react to them.
- maybe increase the length of your sessions or increase how many times a week you rife?
- OR, take a week off (not in regards to support/detox) and see if your body releases more spiro's for you to zap.
For me, it is so hard to rife with this 'trial & error' approach.
I wish I had bettter answers Posts: 379 | From Sydney, Australia | Registered: Nov 2008
| IP: Logged |
The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:
The
Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey 907 Pebble Creek Court,
Pennington,
NJ08534USA http://www.lymenet.org/