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Thanks Gigi..i know those words are so true. I have been drinking water and peeing it out alot for many years. (when i do urine tests i have to have an extra jug!)

I found this website, now i cant find it, but it says to take 1/8 tsp of sea salt everytime you drink water.

leaky gut can cause so many disorders . i went to a conference last nite that explained the digestive system. did you know in the womb one cell divides into two and one is the brain and one is the gut. the body is so amazing.

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p.s. the salt helps to keep the elytes in ..and up. regulary throughout the day.
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Everyone interested in detoxing as AI is opening up the channels, please read this. You need support!
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS!
http://www.bioraynaturaldetox.com/about-bioray/faq.aspx#3

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So at what point in doing AI does one start detoxing? At like round three or can you start from the beginning?

Thanks.

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Hi Imaginit,

I think I must have started detoxing and moving metals out with the first dose of drops.

I've posted before in this thread about having irritations in my throat, back of the nose (nasopharangeal area I think it's called), and tonsils. That started within a few hours of taking the first 5 drops from my first bottle.

The irritations have happened quite a few times since then as well.

GiGi posted some information at the top of page 27 of this thread about metals moving through the tonsils as we detox.

Since I didn't start doing anything major for detox support until several months after I started the AI program, I hope I didn't do more harm than good.

So yes, detoxing can start right away.

Good luck to you,
Nutmeg

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Imaginit,

I agree, things start coming out right away and maybe we don't feel them until they have built up.

I would definitely do liver, lymph and kidney support. I started doing binders right away when what I really needed was extra organ support at that time.

If you read all the posts here, you'll see a lot written about having a means to test to see what you need and when.

The Bioray site Gigi posted is very good. Liverlife helps the liver and kidneys. Extra support - Pekana remedies and Red Root. Also, Matrix Minerals to replenish what gets lost or was never there in the first place.

Until Biologo Detox is available here, it looks like NDF is a good substitute.

LP - Flying stops all for me as well. Chlorella does add bulk but I need chlorella right now.

Yogi Detox tea helps keep things moving. There is question as to whether or not one of the herbs in it can cause dependency but I think it would take a long time and in the meantime - important for things to move out.

It does not have senna or any of the other more harsh herbs.


Thanks Carry, many things did change but right now it is a full time job staying on top of the metals. I'll do another hair test soon and see where things stand.

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LP - Tumeric and bromelain are my best friends right now. Metals coming out of tissue (or being stuck there) can cause inflammation.

They are both good for digestion too.

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hmm..i get very inflamed esp at nite, i have often correlated this to mercury, that is interested also what you said nana about the tumeric and bromelian..

runner

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Thanks for all your answers--I'll start getting my detox kit together.

Can one use Welchol as a binder? It's prescription drug like cholyestramine and worked well for me.

Also, can one do detox baths and infared sauna when you first start the drops?

Last, does anyone have a system on how to keep track of all this great info. Do most of you just print it out and put it in a notebook or do you have other ways?

Thanks.

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I discovered an indian aruvedic herb today, asafoetida, it is high in sulfur and great for digestion..

http://microcosmicnutrition.com/content/view/31/48/

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I'm just about to finish my 3rd bottle of drops. This one was so much easier than the 2nd.

Anyway, I have a dilema. I have 3 cracked fillings(amalgams)so I'm going to have to get them fixed. I will be looking for a biological dentist to do this. I was wanting to wait till I got done with AI.

My question is, is this going to interfere with AI? Also, how much chlorella do I need beforehand and when do I need to start taking the extra amount?

Thanks,
Connie

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Sapphire, what do you gain by waiting with cracked fillings?
Any of the binders that you read about here or the organ supports do not interfer with AI. In fact, these are necessary. Take as much chlorella or any chlorella containing binders and/or other binders as you can. You want to capture all free roaming mercury that you can to prevent reabsorption and recirculation. Every time you chew, drink hot or cold, mercury is released from the fillings, turning to vapor, and settling somewhere as a different form of mercury which is much harder to detox. It is best to avoid that.

Take care.

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No, I know I don't have anything to gain by waiting other than a toothache maybe. :0)I just found out these were cracked.

The only reason I asked was because I thought I read here that it would be best to wait to have your amalgams removed after we got done with AI. I must have been mistaken. (wouldn't be the first time) I couldn't figure out why as I know we need lots of binders now. It's taken me a long time to figure out just how important they are.

Connie

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Thanks for the answer Nana...

silica for moving things through liver
electrolytes for moving things through kidney.

binders versus liquids makes sense...just dont want to have the pipes clogged with too many binders!

Started the "liver life " from bioray . I tested well today to take that with the NDF!

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Got this from DK a couple of days ago: For kidney
(nitrogen) support during detox:

1 tsp galactose twice daily, and

Kidney cocktail: 1 quart of good water, 2 tbsp Matrix Electrolyte, 1-2 tbsp MicroMinerals and l cap of M-Water. He says it really works to bring the nitrogen/urea down and turn the kidneus back on. Also warns to be careful with too many supplements until kidneys improved.

Take care.

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gigi can we get galactose from biopure?
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Sorry, Runner, I forgot to answer your mail. I have been very very busy. I am sure that Biopure will carry it before too long. Because it has been used in DK practice ever since I brought it over from Germany 3 years ago. People had been ordering it direct from German pharmacies.

I think Eva at Myoreflex has some. So call her.

Take care.

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Are people really taking BioRay's Liverlife at the dosage suggested [ie building up to 3 to 6 droppersful]? I think my bottle would only last a handful of days at that rate once I'd built up!

I've got to about 20 drops twice a day,


Carry

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Carry,

I currently test for two droppers full of Liverlife, two times a day....

Are you taking this before trying the NDF?

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Oh, I'm having the mother of all migraines -- hormonally related. Haven't had one of these in 9 months!

OW!

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Wiser,
Do you find anything helps with the migrains?
Occasinally my daughter gets these, although they have lessened while on the AI therapy. They were weekly for years while she was in highschool.

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Hi LP -- nothing much helps for the migraines. If I catch it early enough, 2 Aleves and 1 Benedryl can keep it from getting really nasty. I do not take any migraine medication because of my sensitivities. Oh, and cold washclothes across my eyes and at the back of my neck is soothing.

Usually day one of the headache requires staying in dark/dim rooms and I try to sleep through the pain and mental confusion. Day two and three are manageable and I try to lead life...but not in noisy or overly bright environments. On the forth and fifth day I have no pain but I get sweaty. Then it is over.

Menopause was looking good, since I don't get the migraines without huge hormonal fluctuations. Oh well.

Best to you and your daughter (does she have any good tricks for migraines?),

wiserforit2

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Wise, there are a number of reasons for migraines especially as they relate to hormones. Certain mineral deficiencies, calcium, etc., can be part of it. Suggest you google "migraine hormones calcium klinghardt" or similar, and you will come up with a lot of info, I am sure.

Have you ever had your mineral base checked to see if you are deficient in any of them. As I have always posted, since you are now into serious detox, it is important to check this out.
I suggested the Doctors Data Hair Test for $46; it gives you also the mineral status and any ND should be able to help you identifying this. If nothing else, start increasing good absorbable minerals (Matrix Minerals from Biopure; Shilajit from Ayush; Biotics Multi Mins) and I am sure others can suggest more.

With AI, this becomes very important, and you will avoid needless suffering if you get this test. Whether with AI or not, you cannot detox anything sufficiently without the good essential minerals.

If you want to read more, google Essential Minerals metal toxicity Klinghardt -- that will bring you more info that may work for you.

Worrying about you - because you should not be suffering as you do! Please look into this.

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Hi lightparfait,

At present I'm sticking with [not all at once!] Biopure chlorella, MSM, Jarrow Heavy Metal Detox and my usual mixed binder [clay, apple pectin charcoal etc], but may try NDF in the future.

I have continued to use solidago from time to time.

How long does your Liver Life bottle last you at 4 droppers daily?

all the best,

Carry

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I am only using 20 drops of LiverLife per Dr. A D.

I read all the info about building up to 4 droppers full but she did not have me do this. I take Livit2 and milk thistle as well.

Liver is working overtime - lots of breakouts on some liver meridians. The eyes very much relate to the liver as well.

Was having a really rough time with inflammation and tumeric/bromelain started not doing the job anymore. Yes runner, I relate this to mercury and could be chemicals as well.

I added proteolytic enzymes between meals and I believe it is helping tremendously in terms of breaking things up.

I chase the enzymes with either chlorella or Biologo about an hour later - this is still in "experimental" stage but so far so good.

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Odd situation: I started round #9 of AI last week. I used the biotensor to tell me how many drops to take. First it was 3 and then it was 4 and I usually move up to 5 (3 times per day). I could feel myself sweating and used the biotensor to pick appropriate detox items and binders. Suddenly on day 7 the biotensor said "no" to the AI. The day before I had stopped sweating. I find it strange, because I know that emotions can affect the biotensor, but I was not feeling too bad on this round of AI physically or emotionally. I don't know whether to keep taking it or not.

I have found the biotensor or my ring pendulum to be very accurate in the past. Has this happened to anyone else?

Lee

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Just started my very first IA drops. I had to start by rubbing it into my skin first (according to instruction from Germany) as I am too sensitive.
Then I started slowly and
my biotensor said yes to 4 drops twice daily last week.

But after 3 days I got a bad diverticulitis(did not have it since 6 years)and my doctor put my an flagyl.

Did anyone else have problems taking the IA drops?

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Lee, it's possible that your body says no at the "moment" because you may need more support getting things out. That is very likely once you get up into these higher #bottles.

You are aware that if your regulation is blocked, even just temporarily, that your tensor may indicate no when it means a yes. That can happen within seconds or minutes, especially when the body is very busy trying to throw toxins out. That happens very often when I test my husband when the autonomics are in a very delicate range.

I think you are right -- one split second of the wrong thought and the tensor is off. It is hard to test with a totally blank mind.

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LaremI, if you are this sensitive, it is very difficult to test yourself with a tensor.

Please read the English booklet they put out for patients. A short-term re-run of past experiences physically or emotionally does happen, but usually stop within 3-4 days. This actually is usually on the energetic level. I.e. it feels like you have the bladder infection of 15 years ago, but it actually is not. If you were able to discuss the "rubbing it into the skin" with HG before, why not run this by him to explain.

Everyone I know had problems and memories pop up, or feeling worn out and tired, but usually not of long duration. That is all part of this therapy, healing but not damaging. It definitely cannot cause diverticulitits, if that is what you want to know.

Hope you get past this quickly.

Take care.

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Gigi,
thank you so much. I am doing better on day three,but the div. was pretty tough.

I did read the booklet. You think I had the pain of the div. but not the div., like elevated white blood cells...and it would not have been dangerous.
Also got some bladder irritation now.
I thought it could probably do the same as homeopathy, make you more sick in the beginning.
I will call HG and get more explanation.

Then my biotensor probably is not always right
because of my own hyper-sensitivity to everything, called MCS.

Gigi, thank you so much,I appreciate your help.

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LP, "switching" describes electrical chaos in the nervous system usually caused by electrical overload of the system and resulting shorting of the circuitry. This originates often from one or several interference fields and Neural Therapy (also taught by Dr.K., the developer of ART) is the most elegant long-term method of unswitching.
Switching tests are used against blocked regulation and corrected in different ways, too involved to get into here.

All is not learned in one weekend!

It is best to learn the basics first and learn them right and not to mix up apples with oranges. It takes most people several courses and several years to do it right.

You are making certain statements in your post of 4/21 to Carry - and I do not want to comment on any of them. Things simply are not black or white, i.e. you may test positive for LiverLife today and tomorrow and then never again for days or weeks or months.

For further reading, an older publication - learning is continuous -
http://www.neuraltherapy.com/heavyMetalDetox.doc

Let go and take care.

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Hi
I sent in my sample to be tested on April 12. As of today, Friday, April 23, HG has not received it. HG said it might be because of the flight delays in the past few days. But shouldn't it have gotten there before the flights were canceled earlier this week due to the volcano?

Do you think I should send in another sample and not wait in case it got lost? Thanks for your help.

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Oftentimes little packages or letters take 3 weeks. Nothing unusual about it. Sometimes it takes 5 days. Consider the backup - no flights. Be patient.
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Thanks Gigi! I will try to explain things better in future posts or not comment on my novice experiences as they must confuse people...sorry.
I am still learning...and going next week for ART II and will meet Dr. K. Sabine was amazing and taught us so much! It does take time!

Thanks.

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Hi everybody,

Perhaps I missed it...is it absolutely necessary to have metal fillings removed before starting AI? I've been doing ABX for about 14 months and have not had much healing. I was wondering if perhaps AI is the way to go for me.

Thanks,

Rob

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Rob, it needs to be understood that no matter what you do, the mercury/amalgam in the teeth will send the mercury into the body, mostly brain because of direct access, for the rest of your life, unless you remove them.

You probably will live through much more misery if you do not do AI before starting to remove the fillings. At least when AI has made the corrections, the immune system will act more quickly and help to eliminate the toxic load from the body. If you, like the rest of all of us, are allergic to the metals (and to all the other toxins, good foods, etc.), it seems to be a struggle that never ends if you do not do AI.

No matter what, you need to learn about binders and organ support now and on AI later if you want to eventually free yourself of this ugly stuff called toxic metals. I haven't seen anybody get rid of Lyme while still retaining amalgam fillings, dead root canals.

The only way out - is the way through. That is how Dr.K. puts it. I agree, because that is the only way I made it through.

Take care.

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GiGi,

Thanks. I was afraid you would say that. Is there some type of chelation I should start until I can find a mercury removal literate dentist?

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Rob, take chlorella, etc. Suggest you check www.bioray2000.com - they tell you what is safe to take while amalgams are still in mouth.
Also read some of the great info that comes with the Biologo products. The less remains in the gut, the better off you are. Gut has to be relieved first, then comes the brain. Not the other way around. The road out has to be opened first before you bring down more from deeper and higher (brain) levels.

All seems easier if you have a roadmap. And believe me - you will get there -- same as I did. But for me to really release the deeper levels of metals - it did not happen until I started AI. Even Dr. K. is amazed at the results and the struggle it was for me to drop a molecule of hg.

Take care.

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I can really relate to nana and her liver. this is the issue for me. i think AI stirred up a bundle of toxins and i couldnt get them out fast enough. i am going very slow on my drops and also using liver life, doing flushes and lots of clay with binders.
gigi is righton about having the roadmap.
also have some diversion from illness as well.
my mom and i spent two days together, one in the golden gate park and one in nature at another park..so healing.
walk barefoot on the earth to ground..laugh, love. all of this is so important!
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Dear Friends,

A week or two ago I got my letter saying "You're done!" from AI. I didn't think I was complete yet, and want to thank GiGi for helping me by answering my personal emails to her.

Turns out that I was taking the 5-Factors for methylation, and this could have blocked AI from picking up some dysregulations. So, I'm going to continue with detoxing (adding in Liver Life and, soon, NDF Plus) and send them a new sample in a few weeks.

I just got the Liver Life from BioRay today, and took my first dose (about 1/3 of the recommended starting dose).

I appreciate the BioRay data giving tests you can do on yourself for when to start, what happens when you over-do, and when you're done with the intensive handling!

Best,

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Cass, I got a note from HG today saying that you should send another sample in a couple of months.
Glad you like that BioRay site also. So I am herewith passing AI's message on to you.

We are waiting for our #12 bottle. Wonder how much more he will find. Well, old enough living long enough makes for more accumulation.....
I must say I feel superb with every once in a while a twinge in an arm or leg where the lead seems to be departing. Feels like I spaded up the whole backyard on that day - but haven't done more than a little hand shovel planting a few veggies.... But feel super again a few hours later or the next day. So when the experts tell you that you will feel the metals moving - it is very true.
But I am glad it is happening, and hope everybody will be moving closer to that -- just getting all the gunk out. It is really strange how the toxic metals, I believe, (so does Dr.K.), change us into different people or what we would have been in a healthier environment. I am looking forward to the day when most of it is gone for both of us.

Take care.

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I have not been following this thread, as I did not realize it was a subject I read about, but did not have time to delve into at the time.

As most of you know, I am not adverse to new treatments or methods of resolving health problems.

On the other hand I am a natural skeptic, and like to have some measurable results to go by.

I think I understand the underlying principles of this enough to think it is possible it works, but does anyone have any objective evidence that it is helping? My version of this is not a double blind placebo controlled study, but some measurable way of verifying a positive result.

As a male, and an older skeptical one at that, "I feel more energetic" does not mean much to me, as it is too subjective. If someone told me that "I was unable to walk for two years and now I am Bowling" that would be fairly convincing.

I am just looking for a list of solid evidence of this type. Nothing that involved, but it seems that some have been through the program, and should be able to nail a few things down.

Thank you for the interesting thread. I have not made it all the way through it yet, so maybe I will find some answers as I read more.

Mt daughter may be able to use this, and that is why I am asking. She has Celiac Disease pretty badly.

Dan

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Dan,

I do think you need to read through the entire thread to get a better idea of what others experience on AI.

Especially as you feel you need solid evidence, there will be no one who can supply lab tests, etc to "prove" it was AI that may meet your requirements to feel good about trying this from today's popular medical perspective.

Many people will have a hard time mentally embracing this alternative type therapy. Just hard to comprehend for some. But knowing there is no downside, I was able to "experiment" with the energy drops...as I knew deep inside, that taking more antibiotics or other unnatural substances was not what I think of as "normal" for a persons body long term. Just not healthy!

I was already of the mind to "clean house" after all my many treatments, and then see what was left to take care of. So I was ready to give it a try.


All my evidence is experiential...although many like me have had lab tests that have changed significantly...but will not say "scientifically" for a fact it was the AI...but personally I know that was the only therapy done during the abatement of our symptoms. 5 drops three times a day under the tongue...what could be easier. And my daughter finally felt free of taking over 30 pills/capsules a day. It took her out of mental prison...being tied to a pill box. That alone was beneficial.

It was also the right timing for us to start this and we were also just off antibiotics...to take a break and doing a simple body cleansing...working on spiritual emotional healing at the time...all of this at the beginning of AI.

Also, I had already just removed my mercury amalgams...so I was set up to be in the best place to start. I believe I experienced great effects with AI because of all this. My body seemed to welcome the "communication" caused by the drops, and small annoyances and physical things began to quickly get better...(you will have to read my many posts...as I have too many great things happen to mention here)

I have witnessed others in my community and my family experience positive health during the AI therapy. Most noticeable was the allergies/sensitivites gone to gluten, pollen and environmental agents. More subtle, but noticeable were positive changes in anxiety and depression levels. A sense of good feeling in children and more motivation in school. Emotional healing can occur, and has been the most positive thing for those I love on AI.

We are all more pleasant to be around and communicate much better.

Well worth it!

My opinion when I started, and did not know if it would be beneficial, was that I have spent more money on tests that were not accurate, trying to find a treatment, so what difference would another one, much less expensive, be if it worked.

Well it worked clearing many issues for me and my family...and we are not done yet! The disregulations that have resolved so far, have been enough for me to say without a doubt, that it was worth the time, effort and money for what we are experiencing today. I am so grateful as just writing this brings tears to my eyes of the difference this has been for me and my daughter!

This is the reason I post my experiences in more detail than I need to...so others will know there is hope to feel better, and live free emotionally, and enjoy your food again. Life is good!

Whether someone gets rid of lyme...or other pathogens, that may require additional treatment, antibiotic or natural... and it is individual the level of what each of us have...and how long it may take for those who have more systems not working correctly...but AI I believe helped us clear things, that lightened the immune system to naturally work, and allowed the body to clear lyme and coinfections. We are free now...

There is nothing in this for me to recommend it...but I have compassion for all those who post on lymenet...and when I find something of value, I do feel obligated to share this to those who are open, as it has truly benefited me.

So yes, I say its worth a shot for everyone...as something will improve for all with the drops...Will it be the same for all? Probably not...so comparison is hard as we start the therapy with different body burden.

I am so happy to learn about this and am looking forward to completion in the near future.

Dan, I hope you get your answers.

Best wishes.
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I too want to hear from lots of people on Lymenet how this is going and if a cure has taken place.
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LP,

Do you feel you were cured or lyme put into remission before AI or has AI helped with the lyme. I know it is not always possible to separate Lyme from the toxic conditions of the body, but were most of your Lyme symptoms gone before AI?

Other, please pipe in.

Lee

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Lee, Dan, Seek -

I don't know who could ever tell us if the chicken or the egg came first.

After completing AI, and in retrospect, if I had compiled a list of symptoms, I would have found that mercury toxicity, fungus, lyme and the like would have been nearly identical symptom-wise.

Then throw in neurotoxins produced by the killing.

I had them all and I know I had amalgams and root canals way before the tick bite. I am of the opinion that since I was unable to recognize the metals, fungus and the like appropriately - that the storm was brewing for many years and then when just about every system was in complete chaos, along came the tick.

In an email from AI just about a year ago, he wrote something to this affect - "It is not the ticks but the regulation disturbances which make people ill, and the wrong treatment. The immune system always suspends antibiotics."

One major problem I had that is now gone - just before starting the drops my colon had completely shut down. No surprise when I received my test results from AI that those areas showed up in the "red zone" - severe blockages.

I was completely dependent on colonics and warm water enemas for a number of months. This was no fun and quite worrisome to say the least.

I am happy to report that I have been "enjoying" having at least one (sometimes more) healthy bowel movements everyday (unless I go on an airplane).

Can I prove this was AI? No. But during that time I had every imaginable test, including colonoscopy and there was "nothing wrong." The doctor said "get on Miralax and plan on taking it for the rest of your life." There is the answer from science, drink plastic". I did not do this.

That to me is more than some unexplainable, "happy feeling" from the drops.

My neighbors (family of four) who are doing this, are away and just called to ask me to open their new drops and read what it said. They have just completed their first round and received results with the second drops.

They all had several named industrial toxins, plastics etc - two of them are children 5 and 7 years old with even more things showing up than the parents. All the metals, fungus and foods have now been identified as either "friend or foe" appropriately.

How fortunate for these children that they will not go through life adding more and more to the list of "regulation disturbances", and collecting unrecognized chemicals, metals and other toxins, and wind up as adult asking "what the heck is wrong with me?" when it all goes wrong.

I have long past the point of needing scientific proof for everything. I have gathered too much knowledge and life experience to know that not all is found in science and on paper. It does have it's place.

I reported here when I completed the drops the many, many changes that have taken place. I sleep a little better at night knowing that for one, the recirculating toxic load from metals is no longer in the "red zone."

I hope this is of some help.

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P S - Do I feel like a million bucks everyday? NO, but I feel that way often enough to know that more of those days are coming and that a restructuring has taken place that will continue on.
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Heard yesterday from a friend that she finished all drops. She has for the first time now solved her lifelong problem with her period. She is very happy.

If you need statistics how a group of 200 people fared on AI, call or write and ask AI to send that to you. I tried to post it a couple of times. It is in German, but all symptoms are easily interpreted and numbers are numbers. It is split into male/female. The Wheat/Grain allergies that are the most impressive were 100% successful for all who took part for that reason.

It's worthwhile to do some google translating of their website. Or at least read the English portions they have now on their site and follow all the yellow links indicated on the English portion.

It's worth it - that is all I can say.

Take care.

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I am waiting for bottle #11. Besides AI, I am taking the 'rehydration cocktail' + ASEA, that is all. I am feeling better & stronger all the time.

I recently had my lung capacity tested at at the ALS clinic and it has gone up to 49%. Last September, it was 42%. I'm pretty sure it was even lower by January/February.

I am gaining weight, getting stronger & breathing better. I have hope again.

I am starting to feel like I may owe my life to Lymenet, especially to GiGi and Troutscout, because they brought AI and ASEA to my attention.

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