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Everyone, can someone please remind me the address and method to send your blood in for testing with AI? I'm considering it.
Do you send the blood sample and ask them to send you a Paypal invoice or do you need to pay first?
Any info is appreciated. Their Paypal section on their website is down.
Please PM me if you'd like with the info.
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Seekhelp, you can send a few (2-3) drops of saliva on a piece of tissue, wrapped flat in a small piece of foil, seal it in a small baggie, to them. It is not necessary to send blood - saliva will do the same.
Via Air Mail Allergie Immun In den Hahndornen 16 D-67273 Bobenheim am Berg Germany
give them a brief list of your symptoms and put it in a regular letter size envelope with 94 Cent stamp on it, marked AirMail. Maybe take it to POffice and have it weighed.
I notice their PayPal page is up again. Do the PayPal and send them a short e-mail at the same time telling them if you want the test only or the whole therapy. Ask them to send you the results by e-mail. Our first 16-page results came with the drops in the mail and I was so anxious to see the results. I think they also mention on their site that if you do the whole therapy, you can break it up into two (or so) payments. Just ask them.
Good luck and hope you have very few red x's and red numbers and blockages.
Take care.
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Thank you GiGi. I have zero doubt there will be a LOT of blockages!
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The analyses after the first one are not detailed. My third one just said how many chemical and energy blockages I had and not what they were. It came with the drops. My first one was e-mailed to me.
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If they could perfect all blockages, wouldn't we be immortal and live to 500? Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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Seekhelp, not quite - But life is a lot simpler if you can at least eat and enjoy good healthy bread without getting neurological handicaps from it. Your body will forever be thankful.
Yes, new toxins are always developed - some 60,000 to 80,000 manmade chemicals now --- and everything you buy seems to stink more and longer. So one has to be vigilant and be thankful someone was smart enough to come up with a solution to correct our software, at least to this stage.
Mr. G. told me just recently that many kids' problems start after vaccinations. Same with animals. They treat cats and dogs successfully!
Take care.
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I just started round 6 today. Energetically, they continue to test very well for me via muscle testing. Still more chemical groups and engergetic blockages to address. It will be interesting to see who is the first American that finds out that they have no more items to correct with AI. I'm interested in hearing how others do with these over time. I'm of the belief that they are helping me to detox much more effectively.
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Had a visit from our friendly nurse A. today. Toxins - chemicals, metals, are really flowing and need
Support - support - support - Drain Drain Drain!! So the skin is not overloaded! Liver and Kidney assist -
She suggested (not Projogurt) support for gut - her pref. Betaglucan from Bioimmersion Sacromycis boulardi Jarrow, for good bug establishing, (with gas being a good sign of die-off)
For Lymph: cilantro pesto (2 T a day) on foods, toss (fresh) it in broth/soups, cilantro tea, lots of cucumber juice ( I mash them up in my little B&D 3cup chopper - I always have one in reserve in case one breaks down and Walmart doesn't carry them anymore - they are the best for raw apples, mousses, etc. )
For kidneys: lots of watermelon (pee a lot), Renelix
Liver: Sauerkraut (made with nothing but fermented cabbage and salt - no preservatives - I find one at Albertsons (can). Most imported ones from Poland and Germany taste great and have no additives. Why in the heck they have to add an additive to Sauerkraut is beyond me!
Kefir, Butyrate (if it tests), Hepat (I think it's Sanum - I don't have it yet)
If you have the KMT - put it on back or omentum - gut (Liver kidney support - they are now working overtime!)and run program #3 (lymph), tissue repair #4, eyes tone #6
My husband is sleeping with it tonight with face mask on back. Runs 4plus hours.
Color if you have Air Energy singlet Oxygen, color blue/green for metal outflow.
To correct anemia (from past malabsorption) - Italian prunes fresh or frozen - spinach - apricots - Floradix
Stick with foods - as God makes them I am sure some people have more to share.
Thought some of you might be interested.
Take care.
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Scott, the corrected software will bring changes and improvements for a year or two after finishing the drops -- that is what I was told the other day. If you really start to think about this, it is quite logical. Most of us have spent years only at half power to have gotten where we were.
Look at the green-yellow-red sections (starting 1.1 - all of those are tested and reorganized. They do not describe at every test what they are finding. It is way too difficult to understand and it would take up too much time. I know they work the synapses, nerves, myelins,etc.
How many switches they have to change depends on how long the train (body) has been going in the wrong direction. First they correct the outer layer. Layer after layer from outer to inner is gone over, and only if the outer layers are corrected, i.e. switched, can they go on to the deeper layers and finally the core. Any error in any of these layers can show up as a different behavior/symptom/cause. So sometimes subjectively we may think things are getting worse, while actually, as AI tell me, things are getting better and better, in tiny increments. That is why it is so important to stay with the drops until they can no longer find any errors.
So the most important thing is to stay with the drops and to not give up even if you feel not much is happening. Eventually, at one time, so they say, they will reach the goal. Or the inner core of the onion.
Make it an apple instead of an onion, sometimes there is no sign of a worm on the ouside, but it is hanging out instead near the core of the fruit.
Rule of thumb: the longer the chronic problem, the longer it will take drops to correct the dysregulations. The body has to fully regulate in order to function at its best.
Create your own reality by the way you think.....
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What Gigi says has certainly been true for me.
During round three I felt like a kid again. Extraordinary strength and energy. Building raised bed gardens, sawing, hammering, and digging.
Round four must have reached a much deeper level. I test for lymph, kidney and liver drainage/support nonstop as well as binders.
I have woken up with searing ear and sinus aches but no infection there. Old stuff moving along I suspect.
Yesterday I felt like I was getting mosquito bites all day in scores of different places. Kept swatting at myself but I was laying on the couch watching the baseball game!! No mosquitos.
The first day of round four my lip twitched for two days and then it was done.
My eyes continue to burn and crust as the chemicals come out.
Due to a mishap I had to start over again with round four which has slowed the process down some but have just sent off for round 5.
I will stick with the drops until they now longer find errors. I am doing nothing else except organ support and binders, occasional magnesium, very little else.
The hundreds of supplements and tinctures I have collected are bagged up and put away.
Some day when no errors are found I really want to know what to attribute it to so I am keeping it ever so simple.
I enjoy raw spinach right out of the garden along with parsley daily (never liked cilantro). I have a dozen different kinds of lettuce that I harvest every evening.
Other than that, all my body is asking for is meat and eggs!!! (and more drops).
Some days I get really down that I feel worse and some days I am just grateful that I don't have to put a name to what I am feeling and know that "this too shall pass."
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P S - I read something yesterday that the A I team posted regarding trying to detox things that your body doesn't recognize as toxins.
He said "it is like asking someone to go out and pick a tulip when they have no idea what one looks like."
I liked that one.
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P S S and most importantly.
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Love the kisses, Nanadubo!
Lots of great information in these posts, thank you everyone.
I have had a bit of a crisis with palpitations non-stop this week and have had to cancel my week's holiday [pout].
At least I have found out today what is causing my worsened state :thyroxine levels have soared too high, despite the fact that my dose has been constant for years.
The timing could have been better, but at least it means I can order the drops a week earlier!
I have written to Herr G though in case he has altered the policy of one price including all cycles of drops, because my tests results did say cost would include up to 3 cycles.
I am pretty sure that I will need many many rounds, so I want to be sure on price.
I shall save some of the good detox and binding ideas, thank you again.
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Mine said the same re the 3 cycles, but I have already done 6 and I have not heard of any discussion about charging more for cycles beyond 3. Are you speculating?
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As far as I know, nothing has changed re price. I think it used to be some time ago that people needed less bottles and that was more the norm.
We are, the world is, getting more toxic and it takes more bottles, but they still charge the same (probably old text) That's my explanation. I had been told by other practitioner who is using the therapy for patients that some people are needing more bottles in recent times. I didn't ask why because I was not all that familiar with how this treatment works at that time.
I am sure if you take "stuff" that is not natural to the body, it has an effect of how the therapy works. An already "injured" body is easily "derailed" keeping in mind how this therapy works. That is why they are not in favor of pharma products and only if one cannot be without.
Take care.
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Thanks for the update Gigi! Good to hear that we're all consistently testing for loads of drainage support during the remedy.
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Can you get extremely ill if not taking binders because you don't do alternative testing (i.e., ART)?
I have no access to this stuff. I don't want to destroy my liver. Thoughts?
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Taking binders has no relationship to ART testing other than some optimize what to take using such methods.
So, will not using ART mean you get ill? Not necessarily
Will not taking binders mean you may get ill? More likely.
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Scott, I mean if you don't muscle test and tons of toxins are pouring out due to AI drops, can you get severely ill? No regular doc or typical LLMD will understand or recommend specific things.
I know about the general stuff like activated charcoal, chlorella, etc. I'm not sure how bad it can get with AI...that's all.
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Seekhelp, what are you doing now to support your liver, etc. while on killing agents? Same thing applies with AI. Except when doing AI, the toxins are actually heading for the exits wanting to leave, whereas if we are still allergic to them they many are stuffed away in some body compartment where they will create problems again and again. My first reaction to AI was 2-3 normal BM a day; just like a baby -- every time it eats, it poops ---- unless it is already wheat allergic!
You don't need ART - which really only applies always to the present moment - not for tomorrow or the next week. Tensor testing only applies to the here and now, not tonight or tomorrow. The polarity, as it exists at the present moment when testing. The same for pendulum testing. No energetic testing can predict what the energy of the system will be in a few hours. It is only a loose guide. Common sense should always come first.
You could always get the inexpensive tensor (you make a donation if you can afford it) and learn to do it. It will tell you if you would prefer charcoal to some other binding agent at a certain time, like tonight before going to bed. It will also give you a clue as to what your body is detoxing depending what it tests for. My tensor I feel is worth its weight in gold. I can't fool it and it is my guide and always ready. Nobody can afford to have an ART person at the ready all the time. There is lots of talk here what people use - all can help. But it takes a little effort.
This is what I like to stick with:
As a rule, I think the body still prefers real food as much as possible. Whatever does the trick to evacuate, start sweating again, start peeing lots, etc. Only do what feels comfortable - so I was told. Feel good, read, love, walk, learn, sleep, rest, rest, rest, the body is very busy rebuilding regulation. Let the emotions happen --- watch out and recognize them. You don't need someone's couch. Stay away from the naysayers and the superbug discoverers! The switch into the right direction is already being made with the drops. Take the time to cry.
Take care.
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Seekhelp,
"I know about the general stuff like activated charcoal, chlorella, etc. I'm not sure how bad it can get with AI...that's all."
AI sees the type of big or little chaos as they do our testing. That is why the testing is done in layers. And the drops are made to be tolerated. If you want even less reaction, reduce the intake of drops. Even one drop, i.e. "whispering the information to the body" will do (so Mrs. G. told me). They also recommend "take as many as the first number that comes to mind when you touch the bottle", but never more than 5 drops three times a day. Or test with tensor, etc. The reactions are shortlived, sort of like a gentle wave going through the system. Listen to your body.
Now I am off the air.
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Thank you GiGi for the insight. I appreciate it.
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Total 5 rounds for me. They didn't find anymore energetic blockages. This is very good news, and does seem to agree with what Gigi said.. the longer you've been ill, the more blockages you will have (I've been sick for about 4 years)
In the final analysis, my intestinal areas are still in the yellow (dysfunctional), but they say it will take some time for restructuring to occur (up to 1 year if disruptions existed for 10 years). Also, my "available bioenergy capacity" is still in the red (10-20%), & my incorrect cell polarity (% of cells with incorrect polarity or lacking energy) is unchanged from initial analysis, both of which make sense with my remaining symptoms being linked directly to mitochondrial dysfunction.
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Cool. My reports have not been at that level of detail for a few rounds. What that new Joey? My round 6 just had chemicals and blockages again.
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Zombie--that seems to be the case. I'm not sure what their format will be when others are done because they seem to change it with time.
Many areas showed improvement. The bars that didn't correlate with my remaining symptoms.
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I tested high for Pyroluria. I am doing treatment, as are many others. Is it advised to stop the KPU protocal to do AI???? Energy testing says no. Thanks for any feedback. Joyce
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Can you do AI testing if on Abx?
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Healing, "I tested high for Pyroluria. I am doing treatment, as are many others. Is it advised to stop the KPU protocal to do AI???? Energy testing says no. Thanks for any feedback. "
As I understand KPU, it will, if effective cause to mobilize certain toxins, etc. Most Lyme people who have taken the AI test so far all have major dysregulations for many toxins, so in my mind it would not make sense to shake the tree with the KPU before doing AI.
What happens if the immun system on the DNA level does not recognize these toxins? It would seem that if doing KPU when the body doesn't know what to do with the debris, it would only be adding more fuel to a fire that is already out of control.
AI works on the electromagnetic information level. KPU works on the biochemical/molecular area which is secondary.
AI suggest only to do what feels good -- in an effort to support, because the body is hard at work during AI restructuring (as I tried to explain above in several posts). And during that restructuring there is already some detox taking place.
Maybe check with your doctor.
Take care.
P.S. How do you energy test this? Testing refers to the presence, not the future. Just wondering and curious.
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Seekhelp, certainly you can take the AI test while on abx, and see whether you want to do the therapy or not.
Take care.
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I ran across something that looks a little bit like AI drops: http://www.mkprojects.com/index.htm i wonder if it belongs in this thread.
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Yes, it looks different, but some things are quite similar. Of course it is not tthe same, but I think it is along the same train of thought. http://www.mkprojects.com/ts_JimPrandi.htm
About joey, the cells with the wrong polarisation, I read about a treatment where you hold two glass rods and get treated with light and it is supposed to correct it. No idea if it works.
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This was discussed several times a few years ago. I just had found another thread besides this above, but lost it and don't have time right now to search. Search and ye shall find. I think it was under vibrational assessment or similar.
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Has anyone actually read how this treatment is suppose to work? I read the entire site and all I can get from it is they supposedly add electricity/energy/vibrations to a mixture of water and ascorbic acid?? There's no merit to that whatsoever. Anyone that has a full understanding of chemistry knows water has one vibrational frequency... that's it, same for ascorbic acid and other molecules. This really sounds like a bad scam preying on people that don't understand the details of certain subjects of science by stating vague downright silly explanations.
I read more on "vibrational medicine" only to find the same nonsense. I want everyone to understand this, every chemical has a set vibrational (in chemistry called resonant) frequency that is determined by it's molecular structure, you CANNOT CHANGE IT unless you actually change water into hydrogen and oxygen for example.
If this treatment was to somehow work then they have no idea how it works, they can't explain how it works and it's something no one on the planet can test as of yet or be sure about because no science backs it up.
I just hate to see any of us wasting time and money while we're desperate. I don't want to discourage anyone from trying anything that works. But if you understand everything to this you'll understand that the old theory of letting yourself bleed out the infection or allergy has just as much merit as this.
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I'm very optimistic and have had good results with AI drops. I am on round 6 now and will continue the full protocol.
I've seen far too many things with the treatment to suggest it is working. There are common threads of experiences that people have while on the drops.
There are many different types of vibrational medicine out there and the statements above discount many/all of them. My journey has been significantly impacted in a positive way as a result of energetic testing and frequency-based therapies.
I wouldn't count AI out based on one opinion, an opinion from someone that has not experienced the therapy personally.
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All I know is that immediately after starting the AI batches for chemicals and toxins, my energetic doctor tested chemicals & toxins in my blood as a priority to be treated. Similar trend happened with heavy metals after the first round of AI
Their final analysis of physiological markers actually correlated with what symptoms of mine have improved since starting AI and what problems I know still remain.
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Not to say AI doesn't work, but since you have to tell them your symptoms and improvements each time you send in a sample, how do we know their final analysis is not based on what you say rather than the sample of saliva or blood they test.
Just playing devil's advocate (I am waiting for round #4 and don't know yet if it works, except I do feel tired on it).
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I strongly feel that any alternative practicioner/company that knows your symptoms before delivering a service is very prone to fraud. That's my issue with Nutritional Response Testing (form of ART).
I say the practicioner should know nothing concerning your condition and make an accurate assessment using the tool they offer for pay. Otherwise, how can you sleep at night knowing they didn't abuse the situation?
Scott, as the Bionic 880 got you off Abx, do you think AI drops will be able to get you off of the supplements (or most) you take currently to sustain your health? Also, this applies to the many other alternative treatments (Progurt, Magnets, etc.). I'd hope eventually this would happen as it would show success in my eyes.
Personal accounts of people's health on the product(s) is helpful too though.
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Don't know what AI will do in the long-term yet. I doubt I will ever stop doing at least portion of what I am now. Some ongoing but smaller protocol I suspect over time.
If it turns out that very little is required after AI, all the better. I suspect I have 6 months left before I am done, but we will see.
Seekhelp, do you feel the same about conventional medical doctors? If they can tell you that you fractured your ankle only after you tell them that it hurts, is that fraud? Do you just go sit in their office and ask them to tell you what's wrong?
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Scott, that is a good analogy about the conventional medicine doctor. Well, first I am not a doctor. They would provide proof via X-ray, MRI, CT-scan, etc. that the joint is injured so it's verifiable by outside sources.
I'm not fan of conventional medicine at this point you may imagine! BUT BUT BUT, remember they aren't 'selling' you something based on their results. That's huge. The conventional MD tells me to rest, wear a cast, or other ideas. The alternative practicioner under a NRT scenario says the 'cure' is $500 more with of supplements they sell in the office. Conflict of interest is an issue for me. When under one roof you Dx the issue, propose the solution, and sell the goods, providers must be more carefully reviewed IMO for your own financial safety.
At least AI is 'peeling an onion' that doesn't cost additional $$$ to see the next layer. lol. NRT is the opposite. The onion is the size of a watermelon to make more $$$ off the ill patient hoping to achieve that unholy health status.
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Well I havent been taking suplements as A1 instucted and the only " therapy" Im taking is the A1.I havent eating or done anything from the ordinary and im doing round 3 now and my finger nails are starting to grow long and pretty.That has never happened before.Cant wait to paint them soon !
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I'm not so sure they aren't selling you something. You get prescriptions. They often profit. Or many of them also sell other products in their offices.
I think it depends as much on the person and their own ethics as it does anything. I understand your point though. Unfortunately, it is also the types of things that come out of NMT or like testing that are not covered by insurance so it seems even worse.
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Yes, you are right. I don't believe for a minute docs pushing SNRIs aren't making kickbacks on this stuff in the form of vacations. I worked on another end of the health care arena and know about some of this first hand.
The bottom line is there is a lot of corruption in the world. One has to sniff it out the best possible to survive.
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