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Has anyone here used Questran to help mop up toxins? I know its a drug, I'm not talking about using it continuously, just "here and there."
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Lex, As long as the body is regulating and errors still being found, the party is not over. Just because you are tired after eating wheat pasta means little, because there are hundreds of other factors involved in wheat storage, manufacturing, and I don't think you ate nothing yesterday or the days before but wheat pasta! Mercury is used in wheat silos and I would guess that you are still working on getting rid of metals besides everything else that was buried.
There are rounds to go before the bases are covered and detoxing alone can be extremely tiring.
As long as you are regulating anew, you will be detoxing.
Anyone read the text that comes with the first bottle and the renewal bottles. It will be going on for a long time to come. What you accumulated and have been fighting for a lifetime is not going to disappear in a year or two.
We have to be realistic. Hoping for the best for everyone.
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A deep bow to you, GiGi, for pulling me back to center.
I am off to get tested by an ART practitioner.
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I have been using cholestyramine to mop up the toxins. This is also an Rx. I have taken a small amount, like 1/4 of a "packet" (regular dose), every day. This is what I test for.
By the way, I just retook the Willie Shoemaker VCS test regarding neurotoxins (available for $15 on the web) and it showed they were at an acceptable level, rather than quite high when I started treatment months ago.
Cholestyramine is what that website recommends for removing the toxins, among other things. I think, in general, questran and cholestyramine are similar. My doc first gave me questran, but I do better with cholestyramine. It is full of chemicals and sugars or fake sugars, as is the regular cholestyramine. But, I get the cholestyramine compounded (don't think questran is available that way) without that stuff.
I think there are lots of good binders out there, the cholestyramine is one of the ones I use.
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Michael I just PM'd you... I just got cholestyramine too but so expensive, looking for a cheaper source.
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Had session with ART practitioner yesterday. One of the things found was need for family constellation -- mother. While I was focusing on need to disconnect from her, my mother fell in her apartment. Some guy told her there was a fire and off she went without her walker.
The power of the tribe is never to be under estimated. Every time I psychically disconnect from my mother, there seems to be a crisis. I need to wear the orange glasses.
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Good article wiser - I go to womentowomen every now and then - they are great listeners are at least aware of heavy metals and parasites to boot! Their one size fits all "personal program" is a bit of a turn off though.
If they had an ART practitioner I would probably go more often....... I can dream right?
My thermographers advice about breast/lymph - "fluff the girls daily".
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Nana-D in dah house! I'm still laughing about fluffin' the girls! : )
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Finally some great info on lymphatics, Wise. Thank you.
Vodder is definitely the best system taught for lymphatic drainage and if you can find someone, they are worth a lot. \http://www.vodderschool.com/
If the dirt can't find its way out, the good cannot go in. Same as when both directions of the freeway are blocked!
Take care.
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Re lymphatic drainage -- Biblical wisdom -- you can't put new wine into old wine skins
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Just received my blood labs. I'm not exactly ecstatic over my CD57 being 39. A year ago in February it was 60. Should be going in the opposite direction.
Thyroid is going more into the hyper range. RT3 is in the high normal range. It was 650 six months ago, the highest two drs. had ever seen.
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Would drugs show up as chemical substances found on the AI test? I take clonazepam for mild seizures. Wondering if this drug would show up as a chemical substance on the AI testing?
Also would a good yeast that I started taking such as Saccharomyces boulardii show up as a biolgical substance? Wonder how they tell the good from the bad?
Lex,
I don't think the CD57 test in a very accurate test, but that is just my opinion.
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Well, I received the drops today but still no analysis for my 3 family members. I received a patient information packet but no personal information about our blockages!! Very frustrating.
Has this happened to anyone? I know they are busy, but this sure doesn't instill confidence with regard to their attention to detail.
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tickbattler - Check your email - it would have been sent via email. You just get this full test results for the first one - and the last one. All the rounds in between will come with your drops, but will only tell you what blockages were found. If not in your email, perhaps your spam filter?
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tick battler: The correct e-mail for AI is the first one [email protected] I think the other e-mail is just an English translation and they may not realize it does not work. Mine to that e-mail always bounces back.
Also if you know the PSP # for each member of your family that will help.
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skies,
By the way, thanks for posting your results about your family...it gives me hope for mine. I love hearing that your children made such improvements. I would love to hear more detail about their specific gains...I will send you a pm.
I don't have a spam filter so I didn't miss an e-mail from them. I had e-mailed them in the past and didn't get a response so I'm really hoping they respond this time.
Will let you know if I hear anything.
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Hiker,
Thanks for that info...will send another with the PSP number. Also...do the drops have to be refrigerated? How should they be stored? Will they last a long time if I don't start them immediately?
Thanks,
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OK...now I'm really mad. The PSP numbers on my twin boys' bottles are the same!! That cannot be right. I would think that each person would have a separate number. I labeled them very carefully, as I knew there could be a mix up with them having the same birthday.
This is really upsetting...to spend this kind of $$ and to have these errors. I had better hear an explanation from them soon.
And I can't even call them and speak to them because I don't speak German. This is crazy.
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tick battler: I think if I were in your shoes I would resubmit your twin's samples. Each person should have a different PSP #. Just use google translator to write a short summary of the problem. You don't want your boys taking each other's drops. I wonder if there was a way to give them different birthdates at this point--even if a day apart just to keep them separate.
The drops do not need to be refrigerated. Just keep them out of the light.
Are you able to energy test? I do that with every set of drops. Round #11 did not energetically test well for me and a month later it still has not. I had my energy healer energetically test it and she said it did not fit me and even felt it was from someone's elses saliva. I did not take those drops, but gave another sample and will have her energy test the ones I just got.
I understand why you are upset. I hope it gets worked out.
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In a dumb accident I seemed to damage a nerve in my finger. OK to take a homeopathic remedy while on AI? I would think it's okay as long as it's not a constitutional remedy, right?
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I don't trust most people's energy testing -- too easy to project one's own ideas. Dr. K discusses this ad finitum . . . it's a game even the most famous doctors play.
It's okay to take a homeopathic . . . HG told this to a friend of mine.
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tb, My twin girls each have a separate PSP number.
I'm sure you already do this, but when it's time to submit, I tape each name to each ziplock bag containing the samples.
Good luck straightening the mess out.
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Well, I did finally get the reports today in response to my e-mail. However, the PSP number on my bottle was one number and the report said it was a different number - one ended in OO6 and other other in 066. Same issue with my son...the PSP number on the bottle and report do not match but his number on the bottle was the same as my other son's. One of my son's names was spelled wrong on the report. How can a laboratory make such errors? Has ANYONE else experienced this?
I really want to do this therapy but this is very disconcerting. Maybe they recently hired a dyslexic person in the lab??
I am not ready to ask for my money back yet but would like to start over with all of us and use a new sample with a new report. I don't trust the current results. I hope they agree with this approach.
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Thanks thejoje - glad to hear that they have successfully handled your twins. Did your twins have many of the same results? Mine did, which concerns me a bit as well.
And now I know they REALLY messed up because I see they listed the same symptoms for my twin boys in the report! And like you said, I had CAREFULLY put each sample in a separate bag with their names and their separate symptom list in the bag. So they probably used the same DNA for both reports!
Does Mr. H. G. speak english at all? Do you think if I called I would have any luck explaining this? I want to start over from scratch...new samples, new numbers, new reports.
Gigi - what do you think?
Thanks for your input.
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Do you trust your own energy testing? The woman I use did not know what was in the AI bottle I showed her, so I think she was reliable. She has been very reliable for me before.
Would you trust ART--afterall it is a form of energy testing and the same bias could exist with ART?
I find it easier to trust someone else with a major energy type question than myself as my emotions play into it. Even my energy healer says if she has a major question about herself she asks another healer to test her.
And if you don't trust someone else's energy testing, how can you trust using AI as it is based on energy testing of some sort?
Just curious as to where your thoughts are coming from.
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re the twins, I would give separate fictitious names so things don't get all messed up. Start over again. Use middle names or nicknames. Mark the plastic with their names -- do everything you can on your end to be clear.
Dr. K cautions ART practitioners not to play the mind games when testing. We have to be aware that this can happen -- always have to have the attitude that we are looking for the answer, that we don't know.
Dr. K also says that if we were meant to be our own healers we'd all have our own planet.
Do I test my energy when I'm in a hole? No, I don't.
If your tester is testing the plastic, you may never be ready for the drops. Best way to test is take some of the drops, put in a quartz crystal clear vial. And using a surrogate is so important -- hard to find a good arm but so often what's going on with us is too easy to project onto patient. Dr. K goes on and on about all this in his seminars.
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Just another thought -- HG at AI is not a perfect human being. He is doing his best for all of us. This is not your regular lab where people wear white coats and goggles -- Dr. K said HG is a religious man who cares deeply about helping humanity.
I can't tell you the number of times Lab Corp has lost my blood sample or failed to perform all the tests the doctor asked for. Or the screw ups staff have made like not putting me down for an appt. that I traveled an hour for. Or sending someone else's results to me. Nearly every time I go to a doctor something is missed, something forgotten which requires me to have to spend my time going back to make things right. And not long ago a pharmacy gave my husband birth-control pills!
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Lex, I certainly realize humans are not perfect. I have nothing against HG and I'm sure he is a very nice person. I appreciate that he is answering my e-mails now and after some messages back and forth, he has agreed to start over. I don't think my concerns are unreasonable or unfounded and I feel I am more than entitled to this. Wouldn't you want the same if you were in my shoes?
I feel that there MUST be a strong level of attention to detail when you are charging $600 per person and taking DNA samples and providing therapy to people that you claim will help them. This attention to detail is essential for them to be taken seriously. I hope HG will be looking further into who is responsible for this very sloppy processing.
The mistakes with regard to my samples were numerous and serious. The most important and basic part of lab testing is ensuring that sample numbers match patients and are not mixed up. I have been to Labcorp and Quest many times with my family of 5 and we have only had two mishaps over the past 4 years.
I am hopeful things will run smoothly from now on, as I do very much hope this therapy will help my family.
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tick battler - I think things will get straightened out and run more smoothly here on.
You said "And now I know they REALLY messed up because I see they listed the same symptoms for my twin boys in the report!"
I'm curious, is every single thing the same? For instance, same numbers under 9.1 and 9.2 for both of them?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they have the same things checked off for foods, metals, etc., that they both don't recognize correctly. But it would be surprising to me that 9.1 and 9.2 are exactly the same.
I agree with everyone else, to start over and Lex had a good idea about using a slightly different birth date.
Energetic testing - the healthier the practitioner the better the testing. Having that third arm to use with ART and many years of experience under her belt is why I travel to the other side of the country to be tested.
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Anytime I ask the energy healer to test something I put it in a clear glass vial and that is what I did with the AI drops from round #11. They did not test well with me first, but I know I might have been "off" that day, so I took them to her in a glass vial and did not tell her what is was. Just asked if these were good for me at this point in time. The answer was "no".
I then became suspicious because the date on the sample was February 17, 2009 and I received these drops in January of 2011. Everything just seemed odd to me.
I have kept the drops and took them back to the energy healer not telling her what the liquid was and it has been a "no" for the whole month.
So, I sent in a new sample and this sample tested "yes" for me yesterday and most of today. Sometimes if I am really worn out from work I will get a "no" on drops or if I have done multiple rounds in a row, I need a break. This will be the first round since August, since I was supposedly done with the drops in August (done for the seond time-ha!).
I realize AI is a small company and there will be mistakes made. I don't have an issue with them at all. I am just very careful.
I have done energy testing with a healthy tester and and a healthy surrogate and gotten totally wrong results, so I would say that no form of energy testing is perfect all of the time.
Unfortuantely we live in a world that is not perfect and we just do the best we can and help each other out the best we can.
Blessings to you.
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NanaDubo - thank you for your post. Not every thing is the same in the two reports and they may very well be from different DNA. But the numbers are very close and with all of the mistakes it made me wonder if possibly the same DNA was used and provided slightly different results which each run. For example on questions 7.1, 8.1 and 10.1 the results were 7, 64, 10 for one twin and 7, 61 and 10 for the other. 9.1 and 9.2 did have different results, which were 5 and 3 for one and 6 and 4 for the other.
What I was really concerned about was that the symptoms that I had provided to them were not correctly listed...they basically put one boy's symptoms on both reports. That, with the wrong PSP numbers was further evidence that there could very well have been a mix up.
I plan to send in my daughter's DNA this time instead of one of the twins. That way, we will have 3 different birth dates and 3 different ages. If all goes well, I plan to do this with the other twin and maybe my husband down the road.
Thanks!
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tb, I just checked my twins' first AI results and none of the numbers were the same in any category. They are fraternal twins, by the way.
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Thanks thejoje...that is VERY interesting. It just adds to my reasons for doing this over.
My twins are fraternal as well, with very different symptoms.
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tick battler, if you want me to speak with HG, I will do so. Please let me know.
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Gigi,
Thank you for your offer...I do think we have worked things out for now, as he agreed to start over with all of us. His english appears to be pretty good as far as I can tell, but I always sent a German translation of my messages to him just in case.
I just want to make sure we get the full evaluation this time around since we are starting over...my only concern is that they somehow assume this is the second round and forget to do that. If there is a problem with that...I may take you up on your offer down the road!
Thanks so much,
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Please note that the translation engines do a horrible job when it comes to the finer or exact part of language. I read the translations that some of you have received and/or sent, and they definitely are not clear at all. Often what he sends makes no sense or very little. But maybe you are referring to his spoken English and not translations. Maybe he is overcoming his shyness about speaking English. Most educated people can read English. Speaking it is a different matter. But if it comes across "stumbling" because of poor translation engine, that is what it is - either clear or still leaves questions open.
If you have not gotten the message across to him that the first results did not seem to be in order, I doubt that by using the translating engine you made things clear now. So why do you still have concern he may still be misunderstanding?
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I don't have any concerns about him not understanding right now...I think it is clear between us. I put both english and german in my messages and it seemed to me that the translation gave at least the gist of what I was saying....I could roughly decipher it. I warned him that I do not speak German!
My only concern is that the person who receives our samples may not be HG and they may look up the names and use our old numbers and proceed as if it is round 2, and not give us the full report that we should receive with the first sample. I may not be understanding this process correctly, but it is my understanding that with the later rounds, you don't get a full report as with round 1?
I plan to send my samples to his attention so that hopefully they will go to him and it will be processed correctly.
Thanks, tickbattler
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For many many years, I use to have terrible fears/anxiety, etc. And for the last 6 years or so I have been blissfully free of it, thankful and marveling at how it was gone. (I do Qi Gong every day and attribute it to helping.)
Well, now the anxiety and fears are back in full force. It has been building over the last few months. I am becoming overwhelmed with negative worries, fears and concerns. It seems to be an almost constant barrage.
I'm wondering if AI caused this to resurface. I have finished 2 rounds.
I had a lot of dental work done on Wednesday night. Some amalgams were removed. A cap is being replaced (removing the metal). And a wisdom tooth needed to be pulled because the decay under the amalgam went too deep. I was not expecting to have a tooth pulled. I felt complete panic in the dentists chair for a few hours. Panic that continued all through the night (bordering on terror). Worried if things were handled the right way, etc. The assistant seemed a little lax, so I was worried if everything had been properly disinfected (handles on lights, equipment, etc.)
Before I left, I asked if I could see the wisdom tooth. They said I could have it. When I unwrapped it later that night to soak in peroxide I noticed the smaller root was broken off at the tip. This has me concerned that this little root tip was left in my upper jaw. Dentist was not in yesterday to ask him, but I left a message. In the meantime, I called an oral surgeon's office to inquire. They said it could have been taken up in suction (I don't remember him suctioning after the pull, but he could have and I just am not recalling correctly). They also said that if little bone fragments are left behind the body can move them to the surface. I tried to let these good explanations reassure me. But I still cannot find calm in my spirit over this.
And sleep has greatly been disturbed (and has been for several weeks)
Fear, worry and anxiety have now become my worst symptoms. This is not the life I want to be living. I need to find my way back to were I was when these afflictions had disappeared.
I understand acupuncture is a no no when on AI (maybe significant cases like mine are an exception?). Other than massage, any other ideas?
Any advice or words of wisdom would be very much appreciated.
Thank you, Tammy
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Hello AI'ers,
This is my once or twice a year check in -
I started PSP in June 2009 and went 9 rounds to clear. 90 day check put me back on PSP for 5 more rounds. I'm currently awaiting results to find out if I have a round 6 coming.
I'm far more exhausted now than I was during the first 9 rounds; hopefully this means I'm getting rid of toxins, etc. Many skin eruptions, weight gain; lots of old Lyme sx's have come back and have yet to clear. Sleep and exercise both problematic. There's a whole host of other odd things happening, but I'm pressed for time, so not going to list.
I work a 40+ hour work week and am very grateful to have a job. Unfortunately, this makes it tough to get some of the rest and recreation that I'd love to be a part of. The weekends are spent mostly in recovery and trying to get ready for the next work week. I've little time or strength to do anything else.
PSP tx will continue until done. I can only hope that a year from now I feel a lot better and am able to participate in more of the activities that I've been a part of previously.
Will check in again in about 6 months or so.
Wishing you all the best of everything.
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ear acupuncture, in particular "shen men" spirit gate does not mobilize . . . it's calming. Furthermore, five element acupuncture treats constitutionally and does not treat "symptoms" but the spirit. When the spirit is in harmony, all other things fall into place. I would suggest a five element acupuncturist or a practitioner who can just help with anxiety.
You may also need adrenal support. I use VITAL ADAPT.
Be aware also that the spring season is the hardest transition...this too shall pass.
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Thank you Lex.
Also, I think you hit the nail on the head about my adrenals. I can feel them mis-firing. All the time. I will look into Vital Adapt.
btw - I am going to Dr. K's clinic at the end of the month. I feel so fortunate. I think all aspects of my condition will be looked at and addressed.... dental, hormonal, etc. etc.
Thanks for reaching out.
Best, Tammy
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Anxiety, sleep interruptions - these can definitely be related to metal toxicity.
Early in the winter when I was releasing a lot of mercury, my anxiety was off the charts. My Dr. K protege confirmed that mercury can cause this and that it was the cause for me.
She also put me on adrenal support recently. I am much calmer and sleeping better.
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Nana - Mercury is an issue for me, so this makes sense. What adrenal support are you on?
I'm going back to dentist today for an x-ray to see if that little piece of root is still in my upper jaw. I pray for a clear x-ray. Can't handle any type of procedure today.
What's been adding to my anxiety is the memory of the dentist not wearing a mask for a lot of the time while he was working on me. This has caused me 3 nights sleep and tremendous worry. I'm kicking myself for not saying anything at the time. But I was in such an anxious state with the needles, drilling, etc. I'm sure I looked like a worry wart and felt uncomfortable speaking up.
I've been trying to reassure myself about this. Telling myself he was at more risk than I was. But it has me thinking that if he is lax in this area, maybe he is lax with sterilizing and protecting his patient as well. And so the cycle of fearful thoughts continue.....
I will speak with him today about this issue. Since I have to go back for him to address this root tip, and to put on my permanent cap and onlay, I have to finish this work with him. But I won't put myself in the same situation of feeling at risk. He is a very very highly regarded dentist in our area, so you can imagine my surprise.
I also try to calm myself by realizing we have all become germ phobic. Years ago dentists didn't even wear gloves. Remember?
I need to let this go because I cannot go back and re-do the past. I will just be sure to NOT put myself in that position again. I must release this anxiety. It has been a terrible companion these last 3 days. I am just exhausted.
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Tammy I am using Vital Adapt for adrenal support. It contains a variety of ginsengs.
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Tammy N.
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Hi Lex,
Is that a liquid by Natura? I want to be sure I'm finding the right thing. (It doesn't specifically say for adrenal support. But says a lot of other good things like for stress support, sleep, vital energy, etc.)
Thanks, Tammy
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Finally getting around to turning off the electricity to my bedroom (from circuit breaker). Will give it a try . . . sleep was a bit more restful last nite after soaking in magnesium flakes but keeping in mind that a full moon is approaching at which time I will surprise the liver flukes with a dose of biltricide (well, maybe they're listening and they won't be surprised).
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