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Shandy, take it slow with the andrographis.. I started itching all over and some people are allergic. I am hoping to be able to add it back in.
Nutramedix claims most of their antimocrobials to pass the BBB. ???
Also, are you taking any intestinal binders? Chlorella helps me sometimes. I've also used Living Clay, modifilin and garden of life detox fiber.
My first step to being able to use the photon/nosode protocol is playing with the pendulum and the bobber when it gets here. The rest I have to just absorb as I can and archive the thread for later use. Meanwhile.. the herbs or a dose of abx if I feel the need.
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Thank you, Selma.. off to the other thread...
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Tracy, thanks anyway for the interesting info...
I just may ask in the pharmacy and see what they get. I'm not buying them now, as my budget for this month is low, and will continue on Heel experiments... Possibly later.
I would also like to add some procaine, either in non-diluted form or in diluted D2 forms, but Heel procaine is out of the market. So I'll be trying to build one vial by myself with the help of my pharmacist...
Procaine is very much used in neuraltherapy but it could help in many other things, it seems...
About deep changes: now I started drinking room temperature water; before it was something I avoided (miasm), for more than a decade.
Same for sugar, before I had deep aversion for sugar, it is in my miasm file with my homeopath, but now I miss sugars (brown sugar) and am consuming it through fruit jams or sweets. I never, since childhood, liked jam and now my mouth is watering just to think of the berry jam...
Another strange thing happening: my lungs are looking for being more filled in, it's like I am exercising my lungs and breathing deeper day after day. I feel like exercising my muscles there. Somehow, my body is needing more oxygen, but it has nothing to do with air hunger. The feeling is pleasurable, like when we open the window in the morning and give a deep breath!
Still another: my body started to sweat and smell. Before I had the impression I was odorless as I almost never sweated. My mom is like me, since my childhood, she rarely sweats even if she is living in a tropical country!! It could be an iherited miasm (?). I feel my own body odours weird as I'm not used to have any smell whatsoever...
Whatever these changes mean, I'm just watching myself like an observer. So far, my feet infections are still dormant, and it's the first time in a decade, I think, I wash my socks with the other clothes. Before, they needed sterilization, boiling water, and to be washed separately.
I so suspect that these photons, with or without nosodes, when applied to accupuncture meridians or directly to sickened cells/tissues, with Nogier or homeopathics, do both an incredible boost in energy plus help communication of homeopathics. The boost in both areas is amazing.
No food, or herb, or ingested homeopathics could give me this inner boost of energy that photons give. I suspect that only accupuncture could have done similar, but accupuncture done DAILY, not once or twice a week like I was doing.
Add accupuncture with injected homeopathics (biopuncture), that could be even more similar, I suppose.
I am just thinking about the MFT tapping of dr. K. He strongly recommends that after ingesting anything, one has to tap on all main meridians (the 9 MFT points) to get better results.
I always did that and felt it helped. I feel I'm doing very similar with photons! We put the homeopathics somewhere and apply the photons on main accupuncture points.
The ONLY difference is on the DEPTH the substance reaches, it is truly amazing.
And of course, I still didn't find anything that is NOT homeopathic that can be taken with photons.
--- Bejoy, you are right, I find that rubbing or ingesting homeopathics while doing photons some other time in the day is better than not doing photons at all.
But no, my question is still open. Where, in your body, can you TAKE the content of the vial that is not a nosode nor antibody? in the same way dr. W. does with nosodes? ONly rubbing borrelia nosodes on the solar plexus WON'T WORK. Just try, rub any potency, apply photons, and test. Rubbing won't work as well as with the transparent vials.
It's the same with Heel homeopathics. Rubbing, ingesting, whatever we do is not comparable to taking them through photons.
One clue: the accu-point is one of the points dr. W. applies photons.
If anyone finds the same point I found, we'll write down here. I just asked with a Heel vial, if I can take it from my elbows (inner part), I got a no. I asked if I can put the vial in my mouth without opening them and photon the other points, I get a no...
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My guess about these different accupoints to 'take' different types of homeopathics is that solar plexus works exclusevely for ISOPATHY, while point X for, at least, these Heel homeopathics (not isopathics).
For example, I asked if I could use Penicilin homeopathic to kill some other critter (that is NOT penicilin) through the solar plexus. I get a negative on and on.
If I ask, can I use my point X to take Penicilin for that critter? Answer is yes.
I SUSPECT that if I use the same Penicilin nosode on the solar plexus, I'll get my body trying to find penicilin in my body and do something with them (kill or expulse or whatever with the SAME critter penicilin...).
If, on the other hand, I use the same penicilin nosode on the point X, I'll get penicilin to kill OTHER critters as the way my body decodes its message is different.
While with ingestion, we don't need to know anything, we just ingest and our bodies do the work.
This looks crazy, I agree, that is why I need your help, to help confirming this point X really exists and I am not creating all that in my mind...
Or it could still be that my brain is playing tricks with myself, I TOTALLY agree!! That is why, the game is open for anyone willing to participate. If you'd like to make it even better, send me a PM instead!
Next question for the future will be then, if THE homeopathic constitutional remedy for each person will work there in point X!! Or if it still needs another point to be taken through photons.
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I've been having a big detox from my intestines like last summer - so, I've been going slow.
I'm doing some research - aloe vera gel & slippery elm are some potential detox agents as well as charcoal tabs. I tested no to chlorella a while back. I haven't done energetic testing for the slippery elm or aloe vera but they seem good from an intellectual point of view.
I'm not sure if the detox is from using the light by itself - like last summer or if it has anything to do with the mycoplasma remedy.
I guess I could test it but I'm just feeling pretty weak & ill. I have to write everything down since I'm feeling pretty overloaded right now.
I'll focus more on it later today to see if I can get some info...
After I took the remedy for mycoplasmas with the light - I started using the LW alot for just treating back pain, menstrual cramps, lymph nodes, various points on my body. I think I may have over done it. Hense, the intestinal reaction.
I just really like the way the light feels. It makes the aches & pains subside but it may cause some kind of killing reaction to whatever pathogens are causing problems for me.
Just my observation since I use the light for 2 things (to absorb remedies & for aches & pains). I think I have to be alittle more focused in my usage & not use it for aches & pains so much.
Selma -
re: Heel vs. Pekana drainage remedies - Heel got the OK as being superior for my use.
I don't have the money today to order it, though. I'll just have to put it on hold for now. Maybe later this week?
Can you post a list of potential points to try for the alternate point X...? There are too many for me to consider since I'm a beginner at this.
Also, if you get a chance - can you post the name or a link of the school in Germany that studies the EMF, invisible energy fields, auras, etc. I'd like to check it out!
Thanks for all the great info!
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Sparkle, I think this was the link, but the homepage looks new now... I knew the older version...
Killing with nosodes + photons is very strong. My liver has not been so stressed since I started taking borrelia nosodes through photons.
The reaction is not fast as with ingestable killers, but it is building up slowly, I feel. Only Hepar comp is not doing the job, so we are adding other herbs, still back to milk thistle, plus cilantro rubbed on liver and homeopathics specific for each person.
Points to test:
MFT 1 (top of head) MFT 8 (under the arms, height of nipple) 3rd eye thyroide thymus navel inner wrists palms soles tailbone behind knees
-- Slippery elm is 'looking' very interesting, indeed!! Good that you found something for the intestines, Sparkle.
Ask also about your liver or gall bladder. They are sometimes THE origin for intestinal problems.
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If the pain is in the right hand upper quadrant and upper abdominal area.. constant sore stomach.. any idea what that would be? I've had a sonogram. It seems to impact my whole digestive tract and I don't know what to do about it.
If the photons put this much stress on the liver, then it would seem wise to either bring the pathogen load down before? and to make sure detox pathways are working and clear?
I don't think its all about mopping up toxins for me. I am having the comprehensive detox panel done and considering the methylation panel.
Also considering Allergie Immun.
Also considering intracellular vitamin test figuring if my body has the nutrients properly, less stress when killing the bugs.
Any suggestions?
Thank you..
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Sparkle, funny you should mention slippery elm. At the health food store I go to they are switching how they offer herbs. So the old product is halve off. I picked up quit a bit of slippery elm, maybe a pound for under 5 dollars. I've tested and been putting it in my quinoa or oatmeal in the morning.
I also picked up 2/3 of a pound of ashwaganda.
But I couldn't beleive how well I tested for slippery elm and ashwaganda.
I just picked up deseret biological mycoplasma. I'm going to put some of it in a clear vial and see where goes using the light works. It appears I've got issues with mycoplasma.
Plus a whole bunch of homeopathic remedies.
Selma -- my practioner is very interested in the PE1. She talking with another doctor about getting one. So these practioners are definitely kicking the tires.
more l8r -- B
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I tested for the slippery elm. There are some recipes & info for it on:
I think it's some good stuff. They sell it in bulk here, too - but it's not on sale, unfortunately. I tested no for the aloe vera.
I think I have to back off from using the LightWorks so often & just use it to ingest the remedies.
It feels good to me but it causes some kind of detox reaction.
I checked the Heel remedies that Dr. W uses in the IV & I don't need the liver & kidney ones. I just tested positive for the lymph one. It's not that expensive on iHerb so I'll order it soon.
Allergie-Immune sounds interesting but it's a bit expensive for me right now. I think I'd like to continue with the Asyra even though GiGi said it wasn't as effective. I'd like to be able to read about it in English. I'd also like to see what people's results are in a few months from now.
I'm glad the Asyra reading I had found the mycoplasmas. I still haven't gone forward with the remedies since my intestines were going through this detox or whatever it is. I'm just going to wait until it's over to continue.
Be careful with the infrared light if you have any stomach or intestinal issues. I never had any intestinal problems prior to using the LightWorks... it must be doing something but I don't know what it is.
It might be just me for some reason.
I think that mycoplasmas are more common than people suspect... There are 100s of strains & I read they are very prevalent in CT & NJ.
Really makes me wonder about those chemtrails... Maybe we should look into a chemtrail remedy? Any suggestions?
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PS - Thanks Selma. I'm going to look into the websites!
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A couple of questions:
Selma, in your experience, do the photons alone (without nosodes or homeopathics) remove blockages - the type of blockages that can interfere with muscle testing? Any other light users have an opinion on this?
To those Light Users out there (other than the Bionic 880): Who still has amalgams? Anybody? Any problems cropping up in your teeth or jaw areas? (Sorry if this got covered already - I can't find anything in my notes.)
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Tracy, photons alone can do a lot, in my opinion.
The problem is always which frequency to use, so somehow, I WOULDN'T use photons without pulsing (I get strong negative answers) directly on my skin. That is why I muscle test frequencies before.
I do think they remove many blockages PROBABLY in the way that neuraltherapy does, but even more efficient.
I am not a neuraltherapist and only have got neuraltherapy in the past done with injections of procaine. They worked well, but I was going for injections once every month or every two months. It makes a HUGE difference to be using photons EVERY DAY, even if for a few seconds.
These procaine injections 'cancelled' my scars. It means, these scars (from cesarean, or from navel) were producing interference 'fields' and making me blocked most of the times when I went for ART testing. And when we are blocked, nothing works well, it's as though our accupuncture meridians are sick and not flowing.
One way to unblock such scars would be then to try procaine homeopathic with photons (I haven't tried this though, but it's in my plans to try on any poor victim that knocks on my door any time) to see if this works. If not, I'll only be using Nogier frequencies on scars.
If not scars, but merely blockages (usually on accupunture points), I also think Nogier works well. With or without procaine. I can even imagine that the Bionic would work well too, as one can chose the frequency, even though I find that the PE1 is incredible because of different wavelenghts (not only 880nm).
It seems I am 'transparent' to these infrared LEDd, they go through the innermost parts of my body.
I suppose the procaine could give a further boost and give further treatment to diseased tissue/ cells(just a guess, I need to have it in front of me to test on myself or on a victim!!).
-- As for the liver, watch out everybody. Both liver and gall bladder. The nosode killing stresses my liver more than any protocol (except, probably, when I was fighting accute infection after a tick bite in 2007 and was fighting about 5-6 coinfections in the acute phase). The photon coupled with nosodes stressed the liver A LOT.
Another 'hint': the addition of some Heel products for cleansing could do the trick of putting borrelia dormant, according to my energetic tests. It's too early to say, but that is what I start to 'get' as answer.
I got to wait about 2 weeks without testing for borrelia treatment to see if it is really going in this direction, though.
Hint number 2: my liver was stressed, then my Gi started to be a bit messy after these last killings. Adding liver supplements until now didn't solve the problem.
The solution was either ART test to see which homeopathics to add (but I need the help of a big homeopathic book to find out which substance exactly fits me), OR to add other cleansers like Lymphomyosot, Galium, Solidago...
I just did a few minutes ago. Galium is supposed to help my intestines and Solidago the kidney. I don't need lymphomyosot (probably because of cardamon that I consume a lot?). These two things, Galium and Solidago DON'T help my liver according to energetic tests.
Well, minutes after photon application, I didn't even did photons on the liver as it didn't test, I had again to lay down for a while, enjoying the feeling of being relaxed. My liver and gall bladder started to do strange noises, I felt the bile moving, flowing...
Before using both Galium and Solidago, my liver was stressed (in energetic tests). After it, it comes as 'not stressed' anymore.
Even though these products are not treating my liver, directly. Somehow, the general toxin burden gets smaller (first in the energetic field, then in 'reality'), then the liver needs no further help, it seems. Let's see how my intestines react in the next days...
Test Galium you all. At home, all us 3 need Galium, all of us 3 need Solidago, Hepar comp but not all need Lymphomyosot. Galium, I don't know why, is testing as though helping to clean the intestines for us all.
-- As for the hint number 1 above, if it is true, then, I take the hats off for dr. W. again....
If it is true, it confirms my feeling. No way to get rid of infections if one doesn't clean the body. Toxins go hand in hand with pathogens, the more we accumulate toxins, the less we can fight pathogens.
Evolution did that, right? The pathogens bodies are toxic, when they die, they get more toxic, and why? The ONLY reason I see is that a poisoned HOST (WE) can't fight pathogens well. If we feel intestines and liver, or kidneys under stress, there's no reason to continue killing...
Stress of the liver, intestines, kidney, lymphatic system, whatever, that means we can't get rid of pathogens. Not even with the best of machines, the best of nosodes.
--- Another thing: I've been doing name testing for a while now (names of supplements). Before, I got very dubious answers. I did many mistakes and when I bought supplements or herbs, the actual product tested different.
The latest tests I did though, name testing matches what I needed, as I can confirm them with the real remedy in front of me! Same for my daughter and husband. It's getting very exciting then.
I get very strong positive in name testing Procainum compositum, but the product is out of the market. So I'm traing to build it again, from scratch...
gotta go now.
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Let me see if I get the locations question right.
Nosodes for the solar plexus. They help the body produce antibodies against the pathogen identified by the nosode.
Some other location also for homopathics that act in other ways. For instance homeopathic penicillin meant to stimulate the body to kill pathogens, rather than to get rid of penicillin.
Is that right?
Well, trying to follow this logic, I get a yes for penicillin homeopathic in a vial inside the arm, but not on the solar plexus. Hmmm. Why is this? Is that the location X you are referring to?
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Bejoy, right, I mean, the Sanum foundation remedies, like Fortakehl, Notakehl, Quentakehl are MADE of penicilin different strains.
These are nosodes, but we don't take Penicilin roquefortii (sp?) to kill Penicilin roquefortii inside us. We take Penicilin roq (called Fortakehl) to kill, for example, Salmonella.
So, even if these remedies are nosodes, done the same way a borrelia nosode is done, these nosodes are used to kill OTHER pathogens than themselves.
Like most penicilins in allopathic medicine.
So, you are right, if we put penicilin nosodes on the solar plexus to get rid of salmonella, it WON'T do the job, according to my tests (and to yours).
So you got a positive from inside the elbows... Could you ask: "is this the best part of my body to absorb this homeopathic penicilin through photons?"
I don't get the same answer... --- Bob, glad to see your practioners will probably start on the PE1 or other photon devices.
wish them success!
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Selma -- give any thought to hepatica (I like nestmann pharma). See the following link:
Hepatica is recommended for the detoxification of the liver and gallbladder. This combination can be used in cases of chronic liver conditions due to infection, cholecystitis, cholangitis, metabolic disturbances, adiposity, and toxic stress due to environmental chemicals. Hepatica regulates secretion and absorption in the digestive system; has anti-inflammatory and anti-spasmolytic properties in the portal vein; stimulates bile flow and increases detoxification of the liver.
Carduus contains liver tonic herbs for excellent liver support. It is used for acute, subacute, or chronic diseases of the liver and gallbladder. Carduus� is beneficial in removing liver congestion, liver deficiency, gallbladder conditions, constipation, stasis of the portal vein, hemorrhoids, hepatopathy with constipation, difficulty in fat digestion and it may also improve the bile secretion that helps to remove small gallstones (gravel).
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Hepatica looks good, but I never tried it. Things like cilantro, cinnamon, cloves, melissa, I take them often, almost daily (except for melissa tea, it stopped testing). The rest, I don't know but they 'look' good.
for me though, it seems that Hepar compositum is a superior product. Just a 'feeling'.
for Cardus, I get a no, but possibly because I don't need a liver tonic?
Berberis vulgaris though gets a good yes, I'll be starting it tomorow to help some killing (borrelia and Myc TB bovis test as reacting to it). I ordered it by coincidence and got it today.
for Bucco, no one here tests. But possibly because we're on solidago?
anyway, if one feels it helps, why not continuing??
addition of Solidago didn't cancel our need for bear garlic, so we're on it still, for kidney support.
After adding Hepar, Solidago and Galium, I feel I'll start to have cramps soon... So the magnesium homeopathic is not being enough... I added the real magnesium now, let's see.
Daughter had some light GI cramps since yesterday. Today we added Galium, she still complained. So I did Nogier (D program) and it was then fine.
she was also very thirsty for almost 24 hours, so I know there's some detoxing going on. After Solidago +lymphomyosot + galium, she stopped drinking water, even refused her evening glass before going to bed... Yesterday, she took about 8-10 glasses, today about 3...
tomorrow we'll be heading for the lyme doctor, it's her appointment. Her individual homeopathics stopped testing a week ago for organ support, so he may be giving other supportive things tomorrow.
Chlorella stopped testing for the last days for all of us at home... Funny. Since we added Hepar comp.
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Thank you.. Robin
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Solidago Compositum -
CERES Hedera Compositum Phytotherapeutic Properties Solidago compositum is a specific kidney remedy that consists of the CERES Mother Tinctures of four typical representatives of diuretic/aquaretic effective healing plants. The complex covers several psychological types, which can stand in connection with a kidney illness or impairment of diuresis. Black elder (Sambucus nigra) has been added as a fifth ingredient to complement the kidney bladder complex with its unique diuretic and diaphoretic actions. As a whole this composite remedy covers a larger number of organic and psychological causes with corresponding symptoms. The following are individual component descriptions:
Solidago virgaurea (Goldenrod) primarily used as irrigation therapy for inflammatory diseases of the lower urinary tract, urinary calculi and kidney gravel, and as prophylaxis for urinary calculi and kidney gravel.
Equisetum arvense (Horsetail grass) as irrigation therapy for post-traumatic and static edema and for bacterial infections and inflammation of the lower urinary tract and renal gravel.
Urtica dioica (Stinging Nettles) as irrigation therapy for inflammatory diseases of the lower urinary tract and prevention and treatment of kidney gravel. Supportive for rheumatic ailments.
Betula pendula (Birch) as a diuretic and treatment of kidney gravel and for inflammation and spasms in urinary trac disorders. Analgesic for pain and inflammation.
Sambucus nigra (Elder) as irrigation therapy for inflammatory diseases of the lower urinary tract and as a diaphoretic.
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HEPAR compositum
Hepar Compositum promotes stimulation of the detoxicating function of the liver in acute cases and chronic diseases of the liver/gall, e.g., cholangitis and cholecystitis; in functional disorders of the liver of toxic origin as cause or result of other diseases; in hypercholesteremia, erythematodes, toxic exanthema, dermatosis, and dermatitis, neurodermitis and for the stimulation of the liver-cell functioning.
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Thanks, Selma.
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Just a fast update. If you all would like to experiment on Heel products, go slow.
My daughter had a big D. yesterday, too overloaded with toxins. Today, the lyme doctor said her GI tract is fine though, a bit of stress in the liver and lymph though, but nothing else.
So the products are working for detox, but just go slow.
I got headaches the whole day too. Very rare for me. when I ask, my body says, excess of toxins...
Well... learning the hard way again.
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OK, as no one guessed the point, I'm writing here: it's the third eye.
I don't know if this is valid for all of you, and for all homeopathics except for isopathics. That's why I wanted more people to test and see.
Besides, I think each machine acts different, so the Lightworks, the Bionic, Lumen and this PE1 I use probably gives different results (?).
My lyme doctor tested my daughter for frozen garlic yesterday and got a positive for it. She was though testing good for her own autonosodes, from knee liquid again.
She's been 12 days without being treated with these sutonosodes, and yesterday, she tested again. So while in the doctor's office, her body was asking for frozen garlic, but NONE of Buhner's herbs, cowden tinctures, bee venon, etc.
He was very surprised. But he wrote down 'frozen garlic'. Well, I found that a bit strange, but when we came back home, I treated my daughter with photons and her autonosodes.
After that, bingo, frozen garlic stopped testing. She needed no extra killer. If I ask: 'could I add this frozen garlic?' I get a negative.
It's been like this since day one using photons and nosodes. If we are treating borrelia with nosodes, we need absolutely no borrelia killer ingested or rubbed. Not only we don't need, but we 'can't' add borrelia killer as it seems to mess up with the photon treatment.
Even to rub bee venon, I usually get a no.
That is maybe why dr. W. says to stop abx. It will mess up with the treatment. He says it makes it less effective. I believe it's similar with herbs too.
One can take though killers for OTHER pathogens that may arise, this yes. We ingested other things when we caught a cold, or when daughter caught strep, etc... But not for the pathogen(s)that is (are) being killed with photons!
So, we're not on any extra ingested killer, be it herb or anything else.
I just wonder if people with Lightworks still test for killers after taking nosodes through light. That would make results not comparable to what I get here with the PE1... --- another note: I think that one can mix potencies in one vial to treat with that single mixed vial. My daughter had initially treated her active infection with such a mixed nosode of lower potencies.
After a few treatments, she didn't test anymore for such low dilutions (D10 and less). I thought this was because it was mixed and decided to make each nosode, from potency D1 until D10 separately. But she still didnt' need these. Not until now.
So I suppose, her body got the info from these mixed nosodes. That makes things much easier for us, who do autonosodes at home, as we only have to add information of different dilutions into one vial.
Best though is to separate lower dilutions in one single vial, then do the bigger dilutions probably separate: example D10, D12, D15, D30, D60 separately (in case we stop needing the lowest during the course of treatment...).
But D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6, D8 for example, could be in one single vial.
Another thing that was tested also with my doctor: that adding ANTIBODIES seem to be good indeed for treatment with photons.
So one could add not only borrelia nosodes but these borrelia antibodies, for example, and apply photons simultaneously. No need to do two treatments.
Last thing I'm trying now: adding the Sanukehls (nosodes from L-forms) together with the nosodes of the critter. Not mixing critters, though.
So I'm treating with my own autonosodes from infected wounds caused by Mycobacterium TB and added Sanukehl Myc (made with L-forms of Myc TB), and I do this simultaneously. Let's see what I get.
I still have a wound in one finger caused by it. But I know that the dormant critter is still overall, as I feel my joints a bit painful when I add Sanukehl to the photon treatment.
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About the points where photons could be applied, extra to what I posted here.... One could try to test these extra points to see if you get a positive. This is based on my small experience with the people I'm treating (my lab rats) and myself:
- certainly problematic points affected with that infection will test (like articulations, or skin, scalp, teeth etc). - test all main organs (liver, pancreas, intestines, lymph, kidneys...) - on the head: above the ears; just behind the topmost point; base of skull (where it skull links with spine); around the mouth. - on the neck: behind - spine: test upper part, middle part, lower part, tailbone for us is a must for everyone. - back: test all around the upper part, both sides, I feel this is full of good points to receive photons. Another good point is up on the shoulder, where we carry backpacks. This middle point is a good one and then test to the 'cornermost' of our shoulders, thesit's also a good 'entrance'... - under the arm: exactly where the 'hair' is. - chest: test lung meridian (just where the arm connects to the trunk, but a bit low in the soft part); mediastinum (exact place where we point when we say 'this is me'). - belly: sideways, around the belly button, it's a common point we all test on and off, depending on the pathogen. - sexual organs: specially from under, the first chakra point. - buttocks: just in the middle where it's got lots of flesh, both sides. Then move sideways from there, so to the exact side of our hips. - Knee: behind is a must; inner part tests often, front and outer tests less but as knee is a problematic poitn for many with lyme, it's good to ask all around. - ankles: we usually get a negative there, I don't know why. - feet: the V in between the big toe and second toe. - hands: same as above, in the V between the thumb and index. - elbows: inner part.
If anyone has any extra suggestion...
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Brussels, I didn't get the third eye as you did. In fact I can treat with homeopathics on the solar plexus, right next to a nosode. I don't know why the difference. I wonder if it is because your light is stronger.
I found a great drainage remedy yesterday, now my favorite - the DB Systemic Drainage.
It has sarcode for kidney, lung, intestine, lymph, plus a long list of homeopathics at 1, 2, 3, or 6x. Includes Uva Ursi, Lobelia, Solidago, etc.
I used this with light, and also doubled my magnesium by mouth. The difference was almost immediate.
Borrelia Garinii took hold again while I was treating the TB infection, and the pain was pretty bad. Almost gone after one nosode treatment followed the next day by treatment with the drainage remedy. I feel like a new person. This is the most effective drainage process I have ever used.
I took the Borrelia Garinii tester from the Ergopathics kit, and made a personal series remedy out of it to use with LW. I have used the DB remedies extensively, but it no longer tests for me. I believe it has Bb, but not B Garinii. So far I'm having a good response to it.
I also find that I stop testing for killers when using biophotons. I was using lots of colloidal silver, grapefruit seed, bee venom, and garlic while out of town. Then when resuming light treatment, I stopped testing as needing those.
I also sometimes find the same points you noted, with myself and my "lab rats." Difference is I have not treated the buttocks, but do sometimes treat the base of the spine, especially with F Nogier.
Got my potentiser up and running I think. It took a while, as I got it off Ebay with no instructions, and the knobs are backwards from an intuitive understanding.
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Hello everyone!
I haven't been testing as extensively as you have. I, basically, am down to just taking a multi-vitamin & the Lauricidin... today, anyway.
It said no to everything else. I tested to start the 3rd mycoplasma remedy & it said no... I think my body is still working on the 2nd remedy of the set from 2 weeks ago!
I tested as to having no Lyme & just the mycoplasmas. It may be possible that I never had Lyme to begin with since I never had a positive standard test for it...? Who knows?
I am feeling very fatigued & achey.
Thanks for all the points to treat, Selma. I suggested to someone who had a possible cancerous prostate to check into using the infrared light on it & never heard from him again! We weren't that close as friends but people can be kind of limited in their concepts of things.
I'm not sure how the infrared light would work on cancer & if it could be helpful. I just suggested to spend some time researching it, though. I do wonder if this infrared light could be a preventative measure for things like cancer or if it would make it worse...?
Maybe I'll look into it if I have some time today. There are some risks with light for oxidative damage but I believe that the infrared wavelength is very safe.
I find that if I treat my body with the infrared light without the homeopathics, it can cause a detox reaction. If I do use it, I'm going to have to cut way back on the amount of time I use it for.
My husband can use it for an hour with no negative side effects, If you have some kind of pathogen - it may effect you differently.
Don't underestimate the power of the remedies with the light or just using the light on it's own. I can't believe my body is still working with the remedy I took 2 weeks ago - but that's what "Dr. Bobber" is saying.
I tested positive for the Heel lymph drainage remedy out of the 3 that Dr. W was using in the IV he gives people. Sure enough, the next day after I ordered it I had pretty swollen lymph nodes in my neck...
I didn't think of the DB drainage remedy for some reason... thanks for the info about it bejoy. I'll look into it for the future.
I'll also have to consider about the various points to "ingest" the remedies. So far, I'm not using them so I'll see what happens when the Heel lymph remedy gets here.
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Bejoy, thanks for saying you test good in the solar plexus... I still can't get a positive there for lymph drainage remedies or Heel products...
Funny. I don't use pulsed light though... I use it in continuous mode when I want to get the message from homeopathics with photons. This would also be a difference, I suppose? I can't get positive answers to use pulsed light with my PE1, only direct. ---
Great your are seeing improvements with Myc tb. Try to see if cardamon also helps with lymph drainage. I don't need anything extra than cardamon for the moment for lymph drainage, but my daughter is needing...
Let us know how your homeopathic machine is working!! Amazing!!!
Do you need to open the vials to recopy them or can you recopy without breaking the orginal vials?
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When I did use the mycoplasma remedy, it tested to use different Nogier frequencies as per the different application points with the LightWorks.
I don't recall if I tested for constant mode but I don't think it would have been positive for the frequencies if I was meant to do it at constant...
I only got 1 frequency per point... & they were different for each point.
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Sparkle, I had the same question in mind, about cancerous cells...
I've been reading a bit, it seems the answer is probably no. But there are so many different devices, that no one can say for sure. ---- You could test for higher dilutions of Mycoplasma and see? I get no for lower dilutions but yes for higher. Who knows?
I guess the Nogier can do many things. Detox (so using it to detox organs will put the toxins in the matrix...), killing (for some pathogens, I get a positive, so killing = toxins released), and deblocking meridians (this can also cause a sort of healing crisis, because what was stuck starts to move).
Plus there's the theory that it pulls mercury from amalgams, I also get a positive answer on this subject.
One of the amazing things Nogier has done for me, that no other treatemnt could do, was on some roots of teeth. It sorts of cleans the root and I FEEL it now. I got two teeth that are painful with the contact with cold water or with sugar, but no cavities... The Nogier is the best thing so far that dealt with that pain, it's still not cured, but it's clearly improving.
In summary, the Nogier will probably make you thirsty and toxic for these reasons above... I get thirsty after Nogier, for sure. I though enjoy the Nogier sessions, even though I don't do them everyday.
yes, it is amazing, how photons boost the message of homeopathics. It's a whole new world for me now, that I can explore.
These two products there also look interesting, Traumeel and Engystol N...
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Thanks to say that Sparkle... I'll keep that in mind, and still will ask if I get my PE1 to answer me positively for pulsed light WITH homeopathics...
If I had a LW in hands, that would be easier (to compare the two machines!).
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Selma, you are a genius.... I got the go ahead to re-treat with the higher dilution! I was wondering why it was taking so long.
Duh... why didn't I think of that...?
They also sell an applicator so you can use the infrared light in your mouth. I don't know if it has the Nogier frequencies. They sell it at Elixa.
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Bejoy, so you're saying that you made a personal remedy from the DB tester vial using your new potentiser?
RE cancer and photon therapy..... does anyone have Carcinosin (or Carcinosinum - nosode made from breast cancer) to test with? (There's also a `mixed' cancer nosode called Carcinosin Co. I've got several potencies of these, but no light and no Dr. Bobber.)
You guys ALL amaze me. And it's SO NICE to be able to read about your experiences here at LymeNet.
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Okay, I have to ask this......
Does anybody `vibrate' after taking a homeopathic remedy?
It doesn't happen with every remedy, and I only notice it if I take a remedy close to when I fall asleep.
The first time it happened was early on when I made up an autonosode out of my own blood. I took a dose and it made me SO sleepy, and I drifted off..... I awoke shortly thereafter thinking that we were having an earthquake! Or I thought maybe my furnace was about to blow up!! Seriously! It can be VERY intense.
That first time, after a few seconds of being awake, some calm part of me said, ``It's okay. It's just the remedy working....''
It's usually my whole body, but sometimes mostly just my head feels the vibration.
I asked my homeopath if any of her other clients had this reaction and she said no one had reported anything like this.
Anybody else?
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I'll start this reply by answering Selma, I tested my belly button not the solar plexus for vials. Sorry not to of answered sooner, Selma my apologies.
Tracy, I haven't had anything that earth shattering yet with homeopathics. But, I'm a lot newer to the game.
So, as you know, I've been trying to somewhat influence the biochemistry in my body through diet. A simple diet, essentially targeting the reduction of salt and an increase of potassium. A diet also high in enzyme content yet low in proteins. After 1 week and based on really high numbers from allopathic test autoimmune antibodies. I decided to see an LLND who specializes in both energy medicine and homeopathy. So, I'm now taking a good number of bundled remedies.
The doctor determined I had micoplasma infection and either my body might still be fighting lyme. I don't believe lyme is still there but if it is, it is and I'll deal with it.
So, I'm taking some ``Unda'' products 40, 44, 219, 240, and 273 as well as one for body type ``tuberculin''. Deseret biologicals mycoplasma, liquiesence-c, Radtox and I should pick up 6 borrelia vials soon. So, I'm fighting myco, borrelia in some way, emf (radtox), rebuilding pathways, improving respiration, oxygenation(liquiesence), relaxing the body, as well as restimulating hair growth.
All of this is prescription based on her first assessment. I was pretty amazed at the amount of information she gained from our first meeting. And how aggressively she treats with homeopathics. Don't really want to comment quite yet on the changes I'm experiencing. I will say I'm better then I was, but I didn't feel that bad!
Sorry I've not commented much in this thread, I'm in one of those voids, something like a chrysalis, not sure what is going to pop out just yet. Let you know, hopefully I won't pop as another quasimoto. lol
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Tracy, I don't know if I virtually vibrate as you describe. I know my body wants to dance, like in soft movements from the column upwards, a bit like as though I had a snake tryging to dance and come up from my spine.
It happened many times. But not only with homeopathics, also with certain herbs, teas...
Or a sort of 'electrical shock' feeling, yes, I had that. It happens mostly with homeopathics, I think.
Or a profound feeling of quietness, or feeling relax to the bones. I guess dr. K people call that the 'yin state'.
Or sometimes, I feel almost like fainting, I have to lay somewhere and wait for the effect to go. This happened many times after rubbing some Sanum homeopathics (the Polysans).
Sometimes, I feel though nothing, to tell you the truth. -----
We're on andrographis D6 today. Husband caught strep (or more precisely, staphilostrep) and andrographis is testing good. So I diluted it to D6 and it tests BETTER than the original herb in powder.
I feel I'm cathing it too, so I started too on this D6 dilution. No bitter taste. It is certainly homeopathic only, quite a strong feeling after taking it...
I'm having some intuition to dilute both andrographis and cats claw to K dilutions and test to see if I can take these higher dilutions with my photon treatment against borrelia. No idea though... ---
Sparkle, good luck! You got to go higher until the highest potencies don't test. The lowest potencies stop testing quite fast, we are taking much longer with higher dilutions of borrelia and autonosodes.
--- Another interesting experiment I'm doing, on the photon field around our bodies. Incredibly, my photon field tests for photon treatment too! So it means, that when I'm using nosodes, I am also testing for the surrounding field of light my body emits and it is amazing, this field tests as wanting infrared.
So I'm applying infrared from my body outwards too, at the end of the treatment. Or sometimes, in between 'empty spaces' like the V formed under the arm and our bodies, or just in front of our bodies (like about a hand or two of distance, to all sides).
Behind the kidney, in front of the belly, in front of our faces, upwards from top of the head, etc... I feel definitively somethign when I do the treatment like that, quite relaxing and strong.
I gotta make some drawings to explain...
-- I continuously ask if I can use the homeopathics (not isopathics) on my solar plexus and am getting negatives. It always points to my 3rd eye.
so today, I put Berberis D6 on that point and applied photons all over. Wonderful feeling. My eyes seemed to be seeing better. I imediately thought of BEJOY, as she's having troubles with Myc. TB. in her eyes. Berberis is testing for me to help me clear Myc TB, the little that is left.
I didn't know I had it in my eyes, but I think there's something going on in that area...
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I don't know too much about these sots of treatments other than my own... it's really amazing what you guys are doing.
Tracy- you don't need an expensive bobber or BioTensor. You can just use a simple pendulum. In a pinch, you can make one yourself with stuff you can find at home. A string & a key or paperclip might work?
Also- my husband "vibrates" alot & he doesn't use homeopathic remedies. He doesn't have Lyme, either. I'm not sure what it is but it may be associated with EMFs or HAARP. That's my guess on what it's about...
Bob- that seems like alot of products to be treating with at one time. Are you using the infrared light to ingest them? I had a big response just from the DB mycoplasma set.
Selma- The DB mycoplasma set starts with the high dilutions. 200 was the first, then 100... etc. Do you usually begin with the low ones? Thanks for the info about the bio-field!
I tried sending some healing to you guys & everyone at Lymenet with my bobber. It actually was doing something! It kind of freaked me out but it seems to work as far as I could see... It was in a search mode for a while & then it started going up & down to indicate it was done. I'm going to have to experiment with this further!
It's really amazing what you can do with it. There are 3 or 4 distinct modes - there's the yes & no & then there's a "search" mode or maybe a "don't know" mode. It seems to go in a circular motion. I'll have to play with it a bit more to see if there's a pattern.
Today, I was indicated to go back on the Cowden herbs & stop the Innovita group... not the Cowden killing ones, just the clearing & support herbs like Adrenal, Trace Minerals, Burbur, Pinella, Enula, etc.
I found it very interesting that some people are using the Cowden herbs as homeopathic dilutions or something in between... I'm wondering how this began. Did Dr. Cowden come up with it or was it started by someone else?
I'm going to have to study this further. I don't quite understand about this but I get it a little. There's so much to learn!
BTW - I've been testing to no Lyme & yes mycoplasmas...
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Tracy, I actually made a series remedy from Ergopathics tester specifically for Borellia Garinii. (Most homeopathic or nosode treatments you can buy are just for Borrelia Burgdorferi, not the other Borrelia strains.)
Ergopathics vials are not meant for treatment, but I am allowed to play with them if I want. I usually like to use DesBio right out of the bottle, because they are potentised, and good as is.
I "vibrate" or get a bit dizzy when I come in contact with a deep allergy, or negative systemic reaction to something. I wonder if your autonosode contains lots of information about substances your body is not tolerating, and that disrupt your regulation.
Brussels, I'll look at a berberis homeopathic. Thanks.
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Thanks, Bejoy. I do understand about the `test' vials vs. ingestible remedies, etc. I just wondered if you used your new machine to do it, and I think you must have. Pretty handy little machine!
Oh, it wasn't just my autonosode that this happened with - many, many remedies do this. It is rather a pleasant sensation, once the `fear' of it is gone. It makes me feel very much alive, as though I'm connected to some very powerful energy and it's coursing through my whole body..... And it's all `internal' - I'm not actually shaking or vibrating on the outside, even though it feels like I should be.
Selma, thanks for reporting your `sensations' from various herbs and remedies. I, too, have some of those reactions, and sometimes nothing at all, as you say.
Bob, `autoimmune antibodies' to WHAT, exactly (what `category' of diseases/ailments)? Did you expect this?
I'm very interested in hearing about your new treatment, Mr. Quasimodo.... I hope you'll post about it when you are ready to do so. So, you are taking several remedies at once? I know that Luvs2ride's practitioner had her on a number of remedies at one time.
Sparkle, I can see where EMFs could cause a `vibration' in some people. But this ONLY happens with remedies, for me. Never had anything remotely like this in my life. And it usually means I've got my hands on a `right' remedy in the right potency at the right point in time.
Well, I probably have 10 pendulums around here someplace..... every substance and configuration you can imagine. I wasn't satisfied with prior attempts, but I could practice with them again.....
Do you guys `test' your accuracy with your bobbers? Shouldn't there be a simple way to do that before you eat a food or take a supplement based on what the bobber says? Like some questions to ask that you could check the answers pretty quickly? (I can't seem to come up with any good questions to ask to do this.)
RE the `imprinted' Cowden herbals: I've sent an e-mail to Derek Clontz over at myherbs.com to see if he knows anything.....they sell a LOT of Nutramedix products. I don't know if he'll write back. It's been ages since I spoke to him.
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Tracy, I'm glad to hear that this is a pleasant sensation, and not an allergy type reaction. I don't think I've experienced it though.
Yes, I am using my potentiser to make remedies out of energy signatures from test vials, and they seem to work and test well for me. It was a very good investment.
How these machines can possibly work is beyond my imagination. But then again, so is homeopathy and dousing, but I rely on them.
As for testing accuracy, have you read TerryK's article on dousing? It is very good, but you can only get it from her or somebody who has it by PDF email because of the way it was published.
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Having a big response from the mycoplasma vial #2. This is the 2nd time I've done it. Flu-like symptoms, chest congestion, anxiety, increased pain...
It kind of feels like I'm putting my head in the lion's mouth... like at the circus. Each time we do this we are subjecting ourselves to these dangerous pathogens so our body can figure out a way to deal with them.
I have confidence this will pass & eventually my body will work out a way to rid this pathogen from my system.
It is kind of scary... mycoplasmas are no joke! I must say that the Asyra test really hit the mark with mycoplasmas. I don't think I would be going through this reaction if it wasn't an issue.
I would have not know to treat this without having the inexpensive test done with the Asyra... I spent 10s of thousands on standard blood tests. I'm amazed at how inaccurate they have been.
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Oh, so many posts... I hope I'll answer everyone. Spring is coming, we're busy with gardening...
Sparkle: As for dilutions of nosodes, I think the logic goes like: start with the less concentrated (lower numbers, like 5X, 6X...) to higher ones (like 100X, 200X and C potencies).
If you started the other way around, it is not TOO bad, but it won't solve well the problem to the root in MY opinion. (Tracy please give your opinion!).
The highest the dilution, the more you are in the 'energy' field. The lowest, it's more on the actual matter, so fighting real pathogens...
You'll see a pattern in the testing, slowly, the lowest potencies stop testing, the higher remain longer.
Now for borrelia, I'm on D100, D200, C30, C200, but not on lowest. And antibodies of borrelia, I don't test for lower than D60 (only D60, the highest I have is testing).
My daughter stopped using the antibodies for good, and is ONLY on C30 and C200. The rest, she's 'free', at least for the moment.
Bob and Sparkle: Yes, mycoplasmas, babesia, bartonella are difficult critters to get rid of. In our experience here at home, if you have these, you STILL have borrelia hidden. Of course, we didn't do the photon treatment before, but if you go the normal way, killing borrelia with herbs and INGESTED homeopathics, borrelia WILL show up in the end.
It hapenned so many times for both me and daughter, and it is one of Dr. K.'s theories. Borrelia is the last to go, maybe because it is the smallest?? Only with photons, that could be different though as we're reading about others who did dr. W's treatment.
My daughter stopped testing for all the 8 tick born coinfections. Except for borrelia. So we're on it. It was mycoplasma (called ureaplasma) that was the main infection in her knee, now it is dormant.
-- The experience with the surrounding biofield is going on. Try to test with the bobber if you need light IN BETWEEN arm and trunk, both legs open, in front of the knee downwards pointing to the feet, area all around the head. First test it pointing to the area around, then test from the body outwards. Amazing feeling. I feel this really COMPLETES the photon treatment, if done in the end. A profound feeling of peace.
I still test on 3rd eye for all homeopathics that are not nosodes... Thanks for your guesses, Bejoy and Bob! I'll keep asking about these points.
-- Bob, we're all curious to know how you react to the new homeopathics! -- Sparkle, pm me and we can exchange intercontinental treatment techniques!
I hope your herxes get better.
Thanks for sending us good energy!!! -- Tracy, about accuracy, I didn't really understand your question...
Another comment on the way I feel I take homeopathics with photons. The reaction is not immediate, let's say, I had to lie on the sofa about 4 hours after taking Ubichinon +citrokehl +coenzyme comp through photons today.
This is very strange. When I ingest the mix, I just feel some sort of wellneess, I calm down, sometimes I shiver from inside as you describe.
But with photons, it seems I feel less clearly at the moment of photon application (it is MUCH more in the energy field, I suppose). But the effect is stronger as you can see (I had to sleep for about 1 hour and a half after that). Then I won't need the intake from this mix for days, if not a week!
With ingestion, I never had that excessively tired feeling. A bit, but not to even 10% of what I felt today, for example.
With ingestion, my body keeps asking for this mix on and on WITHOUT END. At least, this Heel mix has been a must for me since my lyme woke up again in January.
the good news is that I am finally not testing for the lowest borrelia dilutions, only D100, D200 and C30, C200... So something is working. My daughter is only needing the C30 and C200 of borrelia, and the interval of treatment is getting so spaced in between.
I still have some numbness coming and going, but now only in the fingers (not anymore on my whole right arm). I know this is related to one accupuncture point (V in between the thumb and index), so I only need to tap it for about 3 seconds and the numbness is gone. I can't take anything to kill borrelia, so I'm not taking.
Another good news is that we stopped almost all cleansers, ingested I mean. No more chlorella, no more bear garlic. The only ingestable things we are taking are one homeopathic substance ART tested for organ support, magnesium homeopathic, and sometimes I still add rechtsregulat homeopathic for me and daughter. And that's it!!!!
My liver is not stressed anymore. Somehow I think the Heel mix is working slowly.
I added Berberis, I think this was good.
Bejoy, don't buy Berberis, I'll put it in the box for you. Berberis is fighting more than Myc TB for me, because I gained on rash similar to EM rash since I started it, but I can't figure out what pathogen it is.
Not borrelia, nor bart, nor TB... It reacts with Thyme oil, that is why I know this is a pathogen, it makes a long line and some funny figures on my tigh... I left it for almost 2 days, today I started thyme and it is fading...
My eyes are really seeing 'better', I suspect they were affected with TB like Bejoy. My fingers are all looking better, no more TB wounds. Wow, it took time to fight Myc. TB.
another note for the ones fighting Candida albicans. The combination nosodes plus L-form nosodes is very good. I only take these ingested, and candida goes dormant after one or two days. If it doesn't go dormant on the first day, then I add a light diet (no sugar, but I don't control carbs or fruits). I also also add Nogier on tummy to help.
I've been doing that for a while as candida, mucor racemosus, mucor mucedo etc come and go... I can only ingest nosodes, as they don't test good with photons as I'm with other treatments with photons. So far, they didn't invade my body and got back to dormant...
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The Deseret Biologicals start with the higher dilutions first. That's the way they are meant to be taken. I'm not sure what the logic is but I can see it could work. I don't know what the classical approach is... It's kind of confusing to me but either way could make sense if you think about it.
I tested to ingest the remedy via the solar plexus. I asked about other possible areas & it said to do it at the solar plexus. I have only taken the mycoplasma remedy this way - not any other things.
It may be different for different remedies? I ordered the lymph drainage remedy from Heel - so, I'll see when it gets here.
I am also testing NO for using the LightWorks in any other way then to absorb the remedy.
I test to only treat mycoplasmas now - I may still have Bb but it is or may be dormant. I don't know if we can ever completely get rid of it. I think that mycoplasmas are smaller than Bb.
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Thank you, Sparkle, for the info on the heel products.:-) Robin
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lymie_in_md
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Tracy the two tests were thyroid microsomal ab, titer, ser, qn, latex and thyroglobulin ab, both results were through the roof. They are both blood tests an endo had ordered. It seems these are generally quite high when there is an active infection going on. I'm curious what it will be next month. Now that I'm actively going after mycoplasma which I now believe was eating a way at my endocrine system. The problem I've had is my TSH on my thyroid is through the roof, but I really energetically test negatively for any of the thyroid medicines. And when ever I take them I have really bad side effects. Despite this TSH test, I'm not as big as house with a very slow metabolism, instead my energy seems to be ok and I've lost a couple of pounds over the last month.
What is quite interesting, my TSH was fine oct 2007, actually perfect at 1.3 without meds. Prior to that it was about 5.5 way too high, so I holistically got it down to normal. Then I got bit by another tick January 2008. Had a western blot done and of course lyme was negative. But my TSH was 55, a month later a doctor energetically tested for pathogens and announced I had a mycoplasma infection and gave me Mt. Capra's capracite to get rid of it. It wasn't till recent discussion did it occur that I still had this infection and it might be affecting me still.
So my choice is to allow allopathic medicine to treat me with synthroid which I've had adverse reactions too. Or find someone who is very good with homeopathic medicine. We all know what I chose to do.
It hasn't been quite two weeks in doing this treatment. And, I'm testing very well for all of it so far. I've had several mild herxes each day this past week. They all occurred late in the afternoon for about 2 hours and go away. I also feel even better then I did before, but still way too soon to say. What is interesting, I energetically tested how much longer I should do these. As of today, I should only use these homeopathic remedies for about 11 days. One ends Wednesday another Friday the rest 11 days.
One thing I left out in my last post, she recommended me to get borrelia vials to ingest (I'll be picking up 6 of them Monday). I guess this speaks to Selmas point about borrelia is the last to go. I really don't believe lyme is active or dormant in my body still. Instead I believe the proteins from borrelia are still littered in my body, stored deep within the tissues. And the only way to get rid of it, are with these nosodes, at least that is my hope.
I'm guessing if you take a lot of homeopathic remedies at once, it should be in short duration only. I'm guessing some who might not do well with them, stay on them too long and do more damage then good. I feel very comfortable with my energetic testing.
I was doing this really restricted diet which ended yesterday. A high potassium diet, which I feel super energized from! Plus I've lost a few pounds. The high TSH doesn't make sense unless you add micoplasma to the equation. I'll have another TSH test in about two weeks.
Right now I'm seriously considering getting a PE1 - so Selma any encouragement would be appreciated! This new practioner, seems very interested in getting one for her practice, we'll see. If she gets one, I could evaluate it first against the lightworks I have.
And thanks all of you for putting such a wonderful thread of information.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention this very important point. Before I saw the doctor, I suspected micoplasma. So, I energetically asked if I had a micoplasma infection. The answer was an absolute NO! When I got the micoplasma remedy from deseret biologicals. I got a yes!
Another point, even if you kill all the bacteria in your body. You still need to treat until all the remnants of the bacteria are gone. The toxins here aren't metals, instead they are proteins. The best way to get rid of these proteins is with enzymes and the right enzymes. And you still need the frequency of the remedy to target the proteins.
Also, a high potassium diet might reboot your metabolism.
Well Tracy, am I at least smarter than quasimodo.
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Try to test it before you get one, Bob. Or L. can send you for a while to test and you only have to pay the shipment if you don't like it! I can't say too much as I don't owe a LW to compare!!
I like my PE1 so far... It will make me save tons as I mostly ingest things through photons!
I hope your thyroid stabilizes, Bob. Great to know you feel even better!
as for future tests with bobber... keep testing as future test is not as precise as present time testing...
-- Funny Sparkle, that DB proposes the other way around...
what I did was I photoon ALL THE VIALS at once, and with the time, the ones that still test are the highest potency ones... The lowest stop testing fast.
It happened to both autonosodes and to borrelia nosodes. Both for me and my daughter.
with ingested nosodes, Sanum ones, we only use a single dilution, from 3X , 5X or 6X (depending on the product) and they also help like that... -- My lyme doctor lesson to me:
X potencies work well for any acute infection
C potencies are very strong, and work very long term, in weeks or months, so be careful
LM potencies are very weak, they work well for chronic conditions and the time they work is usually one day, no more, so they are safe and milder.
gotta go again, thank you all for participating too in the thread and experimenting!
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Thought I'd post the entire ingredient list:
5 drops 3 times a day
* Capsicum annuum (Cayenne Pepper).......4 X * Pilocarpus jaborandi (Jaborandi).......4 X * Thymus vulgaris (Garden Thyme).......4 X * Urtica urens (Dwarf Nettle).......4 X * Aurum metallicum (Metallic Gold).......12 X * Cuprum metallicum (Copper).......12 X * Arctostaphylos uva-ursi (Bearberry).......4 X * Genista scoparia (Common Broom).......4 X * Inula helenium (Elecampane).......4 X * Juniperus communis (Juniper).......4 X * Solanum dulcamara (Common Nightshade).......4 X * Stigmata ma�dis (Corn Silk).......4 X * Argentum metallicum (Silver).......12 X * Aurum metallicum (Metallic Gold).......12 X * Crataegus oxyacantha (Hawthorn).......4 X * Lactuca virosa (Wild Lettuce).......4 X * Passiflora incarnata (Passionflower).......4 X * Thymus vulgaris (Garden Thyme).......4 X * Valeriana officinalis (Valerian).......4 X * Equisetum arvense (Horsetail).......6 X * Gentiana lutea (Gentian).......6 X * Salvia officinalis (Sage).......6 X * Saxifraga granulata (Meadow Saxifrage).......6 X * Spiraea ulmaria (Meadowsweet).......6 X
8 drops 3 times a day - energetically tested
Mycoplasma hominis 6, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 30, 60, 100, 200 all x Mycoplasma salivarum 6, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 30, 60, 100, 200 all x
5 drops twice a day
* Tuberculinum Denys (Denys B.F.).......12 X * Serum Marmoreck.......12 X
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That's big big list, Bob. Are you taking these with the infrared light or orally? How do they come up with so many different things to put together.
I always thought you were only supposed to use 1 or 2 homeopathic remedies at a time. This may be a "classical" approach. Maybe things are different now?
I have to get my thyroid checked, too. I noticed my eyebrow lost some hair - I think this can indicate a thyroid issue.
I was taking some compounded thyroid medication from a compounding pharmacy a while back. My thyroid improved so I stopped. Have you tried that? How about Kelp or iodine?
The remedy set from DB has a number of different strains together at the same dilution - it's a little different than the other way of doing it.
I have to give it all some thought. The mycoplasma remedy does seem to be doing something... I hope it's actually helping.
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Sparkle -- I'm taking them orally right now. I intend to take them with light soon.
I have some days I feel absolutely great now. I think these remedies are helping.
I have armour and synthroid in the cabinet. Every now and then I test positive for armour. The last time I tested positively for it was two weeks ago.
I really feel my thyroid is working just fine. I think there is a communication break down between my pituatary and the thyroid. Or my ability to sense TSH is compromised. Micoplasma can do that.
Actually many of these are in combination of 9 bottles of remedies. I posted the bottles before, the manufacturer of most of these are "Unda".
The mycoplasma remedy I'm using is multiple strains and multiple dilutions and it is from DB. It just not the series set.
One thing the doctor noticed, is that I had way too much copper in me. Not surprising having both lyme and mercury issues. Getting copper out was a priority.
Most of the remedies I'm taking now will stop in about 11 days except the DB one.
It funny, I felt pretty good even before the homeopathics. We'll see!
Thanks Sparkle... B
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Bejoy, thank you for reminding me about TerryK's article..... I had to do some digging, but yes, I do have the article and I looked it over, once again. There are some terrific tips there for `setting the stage' properly when trying to muscle test (or using a pendulum, though I know they are different). Very, very helpful.
Unfortunately, I did not find what I was looking for.
Selma, let me give everyone a very poor example of what I'm talking about, as a way to test accuracy before `accepting' any answers.
Assuming you've done preliminary work and are ready to muscle test yourself or use the biotensor, etc..... if there are no problems and your testing is accurate, then something like this might happen..... Let's say you hold a fresh, washed apple in your L hand (or near your chest/throat area) and ask something like, ``Is this something that is good for me to eat today?'', you would probably get a `yes'. If you hold a bottle of household cleaner and ask, ``Is this something that would be good for me to drink today?'', you would probably get a `no'.
That was a pretty simplistic example, but in other words, there should be some substances out there that ALWAYS test `yes' or `no' for virtually everyone. And, really, to eliminate any bias, it would be best if you didn't know what substances/foods you were testing. Ideally, it would be great to put these `universal' substances into little vials for testing so that you could turn the labels away from your view. You could not be `biased' for or against any vial because you wouldn't know what was in there.
Do you all see what I'm talking about?
Selma, I definitely get VERY drowsy and relaxed with certain remedies - especially when I first start taking it - which is one of the reasons I often take a dose near bedtime of any remedy that I am currently taking (well, there are exceptions, like Bellis-per., which can cause sleeplessness if taken too close to bedtime). If I don't get sleepy within 10 minutes, it's probably not a good remedy for me and won't do much for me. Now, if reactions like that are STRONGER with the photons, I can understand why so many people feel a bit `wiped out' after treatment!
More in a bit...
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