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Hi all Anyone know anyone who treats for cancer with rife and if there is a forum or group that I can read about ?
Thanks Still Rifing. Rifing got rid of my toe fungus when nothing else would.. After 3 long treatments. I felt it right there and then half my nails fell off immediately after the last treatment and now they are healing and that it. I am glad
Also still rifing as a preventative thing and maintenence so I do not slip backwards. So far so good.. : )
Thanks for all the great dialoge and sharing. There is a great wealth of info here growing and growing..: )
Blessings
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Been Rifing for a while now. I am thinking it is a joke.
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They have a section for discussions regarding Cancer.
Dan -- Great news about your wife. I am glad you are seeing good results with your new machine.
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No results from the treatment Richedie?
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kadee -- I was thinking the same thing about richedie. Maybe he is full of cysts from all the abx?
richedie -- have you read Dr. Sylver's 'The Rife Handboook?' I have just started to read it and I have found it very helpful.
For instance, I was rifing on a full stomach/after meals. And I learned in the book that it is better to rife on an empty stomach or at least 2 hrs after eating. This way your body isn't overloaded by digesting & getting rid of toxins from the rife session.
Do you know someone who has lyme & can use your machine to see if they herx?
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If you are taking a heavy load of antibiotics, I would use 2016 Hz or a higher harmonic of that frequency. 789,000 Hz is another possibility. Or, use the DNA frequencies from Char Boehm at the highest harmonic your machine can run.
These frequencies seem to affect cyst form as far as I am able to determine.
I am not sure what 832 Hz is affecting, but it seems to address something in my wife's case.
Dan
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Richedie -- Just read in the Rife Handbook that if you aren't seeing any results from your lyme rife sessions that you should focus on rifing for candida & parasites.
I think I saw your other thread that states you have lost your appetite. That could be a sign of candida & parasites as well.
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I rifed on FILARIAL worms that Willy Burgdorfer and Dr B mentioned. I tried one minute, then kept repeating since it made my head react, up to 4 minutes, run as a group:
112 120 1200 332 753
I also did a few other blood parasites, since i was too lazy to put the metal bars on my abdomen. I think i hit something and got some improvement, but i also was doing a second Bart session for the day, also Babs and Lyme.
BABESIA frex aren't working for me and never have! Except i have been getting some head reactions from 570. All my BABESIA ups and downs seem to be caused by herbals, unless there are delayed and unattributable reactions.
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I haven't been brave enough yet to try Lyme frequencies. I have done kidney, strep, adrenals, and detox.
I seem to get immediate sensations from the kidney and strep settings and also more reactions over the next several days.
I'm somewhat confused about the length of time between treatments. I know Lyme is only every 10-14 days, but is detox more often and what about strep and such? Is it the wait so many days after any herx reactions thing?
I don't want to overload my system but also want to keep improving.
Thanks!
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Dan -- interestingly, bartonella is associated with mysterious swellings and edemas (per Dr S's bartonella book). And 832 is a bartonella frex.
Does your wife have bart?
BTW I have been experimentally rifing on 832 2x a day. I have always known that bart is my biggest problem. I feel best when I am doing this.
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BTW my practitioner told me to step up the Rifing yesterday in my appt.....he said you could do Lyme 1x week or every 5 days. And definitely the co's more often.
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I need help here guys. Am a new rifer. Am currently doing frequencies 432 and 10,000. I am using the machine every 7 days. The issue is the severe herxing in between. My pain in my spine and scalp is at times unmanageable with narcotics. Is this normal? Should I go to every 10 days. I am on my 5 th week and can only do 35 seconds on each frequency. I started at 15 seconds and have slowly worked up. Any help would be appreciated.
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Wow! Renee hopefully Dan will chime in here but it sounds as though your bug load is very high and as you know you need to go slow. Why not do the machine every 2 weeks? what bug/s are you after?
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Rene - I would go longer in between until you can get your times up - I only Rife every 10 to 14 days.
I've been using the DT frequencies but am starting the Bart frequencies listing in this thread and will slowly add in other new frequencies. Once I do this I plan to rife more frequently.
I also do the General Detox and have tried the Liver/Kidney/Lymph cleanses, too. I want to do everything at once but I know I can't!
Today I woke up the sickest I've been in a long time (Bart symptoms, i think). I did the Bart for one minute each on Tues night and I'm on day two of a nasty herx.
I did do a I/R sauna last night for 40 minutes which typically does the trick. Can't imagine how I'd be feeling if I hadn't done the sauna!
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I am right now going after lyme, but am co infected with babesia both strains and bartonella. I will try to spread my treatments out more and maybe that will help.
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Rene--- i'm no expert, but it seems to me that detox would help you more than stretching out the session intervals.
You need lots of detox to get rid of the toxins. I have no experience with detox other than water and herbals like Polygonum and Sarsaparilla, which i think help detox.
Selma used to take 20 different kinds of detox.
What are you doing for detox?
Polygonum and Sarsaparilla are Buhner herbs. You can purchase Polygonum pills in this devious way: you buy Source Naturals brand Resveratrol pills. Check the label first to make sure it includes 1 gram of Polygonum cuspidatum. Source Naturals haas different versions of its Resveratrol.
There are some Cowden herbs for detox too.
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I do not know much about detoxing, as it has not been much of an issue for Cindy. You pretty much have to pace yourself based on your bodies ability to recover.
We have never even had an official Lyme diagnosis, so I do not know what co-infections are involved by a test. I am fairly certain she had Babesia, but that seemed to be fairly easy to get rid of. It did come back a couple of times, but now I think it is gone for good.
I never suspected Bart, as the symptoms were not there, other than the foot swelling. I have suspected something else was involved, and it could be Bart. I will know after a few more treatments. It seems like it is going away pretty fast.
Spine pain can get pretty intense. Both MMS and frequencies have produced pain that she described as "it feels as if my back is breaking".
That will get better over time, but it is very tough to get through it. 2016 Hz really hit the spine hard the first few times we used it. Now the effect is much more manageable.
We both take anti-inflammatory supplements for different reasons, but I think they help with treatment quite a lot.
Dan
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About rifing : My husband says, "It's all nonsense. You can believe anything you want."
But i'm off antibiotics! And my toes are all pink, instead of thick, cracked, and gray! That's simple and visible!
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My husband wonders out loud if there is something about rifing that is making me sick and not actually healing me. At one time, though, he was a big proponent (he picked up and read part of Rosner's book that was laying around)
I've been herxing pretty hard - did the general detox this evening and can't believe how much better I feel!
Dan: as far as the Bart - it took me years to realize I had it - many people don't have the classic symptoms. I have heard many times that Bart symptoms can mimic Lyme Symptoms, too.
As far as detox - I am going to miss my I/R sauna during the hot months but I'll definately be rifing for it. I also take MSM, Chlorella and drink a lot of water. I up my Chlorella dose when I'm herxing.
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I am not an expert on the effect of frequencies, or anything electrical. I have corresponded with experts, and people who are physicists, electrical engineers, and several doctors who use this method of treatment.
They all have solid reasons to believe it has merit, and have examples of how it has worked for them.
None of that really convinced me of anything, other than it was worth trying. I knew I had a good chance of being disappointed. I have to say that I was floored when it actually worked for Lyme.
I can observe obvious improvements in health, and the elimination of pain and Arthritis. You really do not need to be a scholar to see that someone can now walk without pain, when they could not before.
I have used it many times on things such as Mold and Warts, and it did not do diddly squat. I got nowhere treating my Crohn's with it, other than eliminating a H-Pylori infection of my Stomach.
But for some pathogens, it can work extremely well. The problem is nailing down the pathogen, and the correct frequency for it. Lyme has by no means been nailed down using frequency treatments. We do have better information all of the time, but there is much more we need to know.
I will say tentatively, that I think I have got Cindy's Lyme beat. I am pretty sure that I will not be dealing with it anymore by this Fall.
The 832 frequency was the last one I needed, and I got it from this thread. The MOPA is crushing the remaining Lyme. She is an inch from cured. I am treating her right now with the 2016 harmonic that would cause her to wince in pain when run. She barely feels it now. It is almost all gone.
I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Dan
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Dan -- great news about your wife's progress in treatment. It is a great inspiration for me knowing that Cindy and others on this thread are seeing improvements.
It sounds like the MOPA was well worth the money. I am glad you talked your wife into buying it (he-he).
Rene -- I agree with others about spacing out your rife sessions. I am almost done reading Dr. Sylver's 'The Rife Handbook' and she talks about the importance of using our machines not only for killing the bugs but for supporting the different systems in our bodies.
Springshowers talks about how these detox/support frequencies have been a major help in her treatment. I used to do them as well, but I have gotten away from the liver/lymph/kidney detox frequencies, but after reading Dr. Sylver's book - I am going back to them.
Rene, I am not sure what machine you have, but maybe start using some support frequencies to help strengthen your immune system. Also after rife sessions, I either do a coffee enema or sit in my FIR sauna to help with detox.
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Dan, I hope we don't lose you when Cindy is all better! You are invaluable.
I have a question for those rifing for bart.....does it make you herx, or just feel better, or sometimes does it change? I am a little confused as to what I am feeling. Yesterday I had a (for me) almost asymptomatic day, today the songs in my head, the depersonalization and confusion, depression, the foot sole/back/jaw pain, the twitches, and tingling are all BACK! I Rifed for Lyme and babs and bart on 6/1, could this be a herx now? After feeling GOOD? Bizarre.
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CD, I can't tell yet about results rifing Bart, but one thing I know is, that Bart symptoms flare up quite regularly about every few days in my case. Typically they hit me very hard mostly after an almost asymptomatic day.
I'm also interested in other peoples experience and reactions after rifing Bart.
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CD57 -- I usually rife for babs & bart at the same time and I always herx 24 hrs after a rife session. And I rife for babs & bart every other day & lyme once a week.
I read that bart replicates more quickly than lyme, so that if you can, maybe rife for bart everyday. I have heard of someone that rifes for bart twice a day!
Again, if you can handle it, maybe rife for bart everyday.
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Dan--- Is this true? On another forum there is a post saying that a contact device like the GB-4000 WILL NOT CURE LYME:
The pad devices I fear will only hold Lyme/Borrelia in check to a certain degree. but I know of no report of anyone becoming lyme FREE using a pad device of any make.
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CD57 - According to DT (who makes the EMEM 5A) - or his handbook anyway (not sure who came up with the info and frequencies) you do not have herx with Bart frequencies.
I always had to go very slow with the Lyme and Erlich frequenies but did up to 6 min of the bart (832 and 1518) with no extra herx I got the 1518 frequency with my machine in the handbook and the 832 from my sis a couple years ago).
BUT when I used the Bart frequencies listed here for the first time this week (one minute each) I got a huge herx. I have never gotten these specific symptoms during a herx but have had them (not as bad) a couple times during flares. My throat felt congested, I had a cough and a very "bad" head (flu like).
I've been busy and on my boat for the long holiday (never bring my rife on the boat) - so I wasn't doing the detox frequencies regular. Now that things have settled down I'm surely going to use them!
P.S. When we have company over my husband says "put your 'crazy' box away" LOL (he says it with love, though). And my daughter thinks I'm totally nutzo for putting coffee up my bum. LOL
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Question for everyone: Do you tell anyone you Rife? Who do you tell? Do you hide your "box"?
just wondering.
I'm pretty selective about who I share this info with (all my lymie friends for sure).
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cd57 the man I purchased my gb4000 who studies rife in depth was big on rifing every 5 days.
mojo I have started working on the bart freq. the last several weeks and have had major herxing. I'm combining it with the MP but still I can vouch for herxing on bart freq.
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I hear you jarjar!! I feel that Bart is my major issue and I really want to hit it hard. I'm going to continue to use these frequencies as much as I can tolerate them and make no other changes for a bit (except to increase detox and organ detox)
Another question for those that use the Bart frequencies here - how many minutes do you work up to?
Thanks! I love this thread!
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I think you are unlikely to cure Lyme using a contact method. I used the contact method, and it gave her great improvement, but there were certain areas deep in the joints that the machine could not reach.
I had the same problem with the Rife Labs EMX, but the reason was slightly different. It simply did not have enough power to outright cure. Both of these machine can get you close to cured, but in spite of the carrier wave on the GB, it is missing certain areas. I used it long enough to determine that much.
Until I got the MOPA to use with the GB, I was at a stalemate. Symptoms would return after a time, and it was coming from the joints. The tissue near the surface is pretty easily cleared by most any machine.
The last element to getting frequencies to cure lyme seem to be power related. As mentioned in the link you provided, the machines that have produced a cure, are all higher powered machines. The rest have produced great improvement, but few if any cures.
The list of machines that have cured is pretty short. Keep in mind the number of people that have used this as a Lyme treatment, is relatively small also.
Doug Coil. High powered magnetic field device.
Bruce Stenulson's EM devices. Similar characteristics.
I also think the MOPA will produce a cure, just from the big leap in results in a few treatments.
The BCX Ultra may be able to, but it is unknown at this time. It is somewhat more powerful than other plasma EMEM devices.
The Resonant Light PERL may be able to cure, as it is high powered, but it has not cured to my knowledge.
There are other higher powered machines, but I am not familiar with them all.
Does that mean the the lower powered EMEM's and the GB-4000 is a waste of time. I do not think so for the following reasons.
I actually think we would have people that could die from using any high powered device for the first time treating Lyme. We all know of people that are on the edge of death from this disease. If you suddenly kill off a large amount of Lyme in a few minutes, it could be a disaster.
Cindy had a frightening reaction just to the GB when mouth sores and toxic load of dead material was released into the blood stream. She was relatively healthy compared to many here at the time. I cannot imagine what reaction the MOPA would have produced.
I did not have all of the needed frequencies at that time, and was running many of them, and probably only a few actually did anything.
I think the lower powered machines give you the ability to test the concept without a big financial risk. It also gives you the ability to familiarize yourself with how to use it, without much chance of putting yourself at risk of over doing it to the point of courting a severe, possibly life threatening die off.
The lower powered machines can get you to the point where you can use a high powered machine to eliminate the remnant that it can't reach.
Some of this is still speculation, since I have not definitively cured her yet. If and when I do, I will spell out a program likely to kill all of the Lyme. The frequencies, how to run them, and what machines are likely to work in a curative sense.
There a many variables, but I think I have nailed down enough to make a cure likely. Of course it is not that simple, as some people still could not detox well enough to do it. there are the co-infections that complicate the matter. Permanent damage from the disease that probably cannot be reversed.
I had the good luck to have a subject that could ferret out effective frequencies by the fact she could feel them working. I knew early on if this was the case, I could find frequencies that could work for anyone.
If it were not for her ability to feel these frequencies, I am quite sure i could not have progressed to this point. I intend to post the exact method that should work for anyone. First I need to be sure that it will cure.
Dan
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"I intend to post the exact method that should work for anyone. First I need to be sure that it will cure."
Awesome! Thank you!
My EMEM 5A is producing results. I have heard from some that have achieved remission from this machine but the majority had to move to better machines.
I will either do that or go back on high dose ABX to "clean up" I'm so chronic (35 years of Lyme or thereabout) I may need to resort to ABX again.
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If this 2016 Hz Harmonic autoprogram works as I think it will with the MOPA, it should eliminate Cyst form in less than a dozen treatments.
I am hoping that people can share a machine to reduce the financial burden to eliminate Lyme.
I do allow people to use my machine for treatment, but I do not run it. They have to run it themselves, and I am only lending them the equipment.
Unfortunately, I am in a fairly remote location, but others could use this arrangement to share costs, if they live near enough to each other.
We will see if this does work as I think it will. I do not want to get the "Cart in front of the Horse".
I need proof, and I am not that far from the final result.
Dan
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Anyone here Rifing for symptoms like mine (pain and cognitive/neuropsychiatric) after having failed abx?
Dan's post makes me wonder if my GB4000 (using BOTH hand and foot plates!) will be strong enough to get into the brain and shake up these bugs there....or I will eventually have to go to something like the Coil or buy a MOPA (how much are these anyway)?
Sorry don't mean to be a downer. LLMD just confirmed that both bart and Lyme are still there so I'm feeling pretty down about that (IV and orals and herbs). SOMETHING is blocking successful treatment and I may have to do voo-doo to figure out what....as he says I am not a very common type of patient!
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My feeling for those of us that have been treating for so long and are still sick - I think we have undiagnosed co-infections, including viral stuff.
It's so difficult to figure this all out.
Eventually I'm going to treat everything on the Rife - even Babs which I have NO symptoms of at all.
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Okay, a recap of my last week. I am definitely re-infected...with WHAT, I am not quite sure yet. Bartonella I AM sure of. My feet hurt as soon as I put them on the ground in the mornings and as the day wears on the pain moves up into my calves.
Last week I was so ill that I honestly thought I might die. I have been sick for almost 5 years, but the last couple of weeks have taken the cake, I promise you.
The worst symptom for me is this bone pain. It feels like someone has strapped me to a table and they're taking a drill bit and screwing into my legs all over. It is so intense and absolutely indescribable. I didn't know that a person could be in such pain. It was so bad for a couple of days there that I really couldn't even walk.
Out of fear and desperation I started abx, but I only took them for about a week and quit. I know they are not the answer.
I quit the abx last Friday and have been rifing daily since. I rife every day for Bartonella and Babesia and will rife every seven days for Lyme.
When I first started rifing daily for Bart all of my sypmtoms vanished rather quickly - nerve pain, leg pain, muscle pain, foot pain all gone. I had a glorious 3 days where I felt human again! Then symptoms started creeping back in - they are mainly from the waist down...this deep pain in my hip joints, legs and feet - this is where all of my twitching is too - it's all in my legs.
When I rife on the Bart frequencies the twitching goes from a 5 to a 10 in a matter of seconds, so I know it's doing something.
I emailed Char Boehm and have filled out the necessary forms and am sending them off in the mail today. I plan on purchasing the lyme and bart DNA frequencies. I WISH I had a stronger machine!!! I love my EMEM, but don't think it's strong enough to penetrate bone and joints, which is where I feel I need it the most now. I would love to get a doug coil and am also interested in the MOPA device.
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My hubby calls my emem the flux capacitor (sp), he's on board with it, though.
When I 1st got it I had it right in the living room and if people saw it and asked about it (more often than not, hubby pointed it out and told them it was a fc)I told them very briefly what it was.
Now I have it in another room just to get it out of the way. I don't tell or hide it, if someone asks I would tell them. My sis has handed out the Cancer Cure That Worked to a few she knew with cancer or loved ones with cancer. She is really psyched after having read the book.
Just in case it helps anyone, in a Lyme forum Weds. night, Dr. B said Babs has a 6 day cycle.
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cd57 you bet you can zap your brain with the gb 4000. I have been using bart freq lately on my brain by lying in a recliner with a moist foot pad on the back of my neck and the other pad on my forehead.
First time I did it I woke up the next day with a headache and a red forehead with a couple of bart streaks that hurt to touch. I did a bunch of bart freq for 5 min each. Cognitive issues is one my main problems.
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mojo -- When my DT machine first arrived, my husband thought I was 'off my rocker.' But when he saw me improve, he now thinks there is merit to it. He even encouraged me to trade up to a contact unit.
I have decided not to tell people about rife. And my husband has suggested that I not tell people about rifing or the coffee enema's. (In a loving way of course). He said people who aren't sick/suffering aren't as open minded about 'non-western' ways of treating an illness.
I have tried to tell some family about it, but after their reaction, I have wished that I didn't.
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LL28 -- So sorry to hear that you are suffering. Let us know how the DNA frequencies go for you.
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asummers - I always put the machine away when people come over. I don't tell any one about the coffee enema's (except family and selective Lymies)
Everyone loves my sauna though because it's very funny looking. My daughter used to bring her friends down stairs to see me when I was in it. My husband teases me "Get in your box!"
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My guts are cured !!! (i think, again). 1 1/2 perfect gut days, no grumbling whatsoever yesterday or today, except when i was rifing on Lyme and other things.
A confounder is that i ate no sugar for 3 days due to loss of sweet tooth (why? ), but did eat whole wheat and dairy.
I rifed on parasites, and i guess it worked!! The lazy way worked: I was too lazy to put on the rubber gloves and hold the wet things on my abdomen. I just rifed the usual way, not on the abdomen--- and i guess it hit abdominal parasites anyway!
It worked so far. If it relapses, i'll do it again. Appparently, i've found the problem and can vanquish the unmanageable guts. Reliable guts are possible, thanks to rife--- rife actually succeeded!! (it seems!!)
---Polly Polygonum -----or Nilufar Knotweed
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My head symptoms tell me to rife twice a day for Bart. If this is just maintenance, maybe i should rife 3x per day to kill more than can reproduce?
I don't get the picture, what am i killing and what not killing? Why are some killed and some not?
If i killed a lot in the a.m., why didn't i kill them all? WHEre did the p.m. batch come from?
And why do i have to be my own doctor? I paid an expensive health care provider for 2 1/2 years, who never considered Bart (except for the initial negative test) and only treated me for 2 months for Babs, (not the minimum 4 months as Dr B i think requires?), just because i seemed not to have the symptoms.
I was wondering why i'm treating Bart heavily now, when i didn't while i was on Lyme abx. I've seen on some threads that some of my favorite Lyme drugs may hit Bart too, also some Buhner herbs; but i never took Stephania.
This person says Biaxin and Bactrim hit Bart. They were my top two favorites for making me feel better.
04 June, 2010 Quote I am currently taking Bactrim and biaxin for Bart seems to work well, I did zith and bactrim for 3 months, hit a plateau and now doing bactrim with biaxin and that is going well. I am thinking a total of eight months to finish treating Bart. So I have 4 more months to go. I have slight elevation of LFT's so am hoping to avoid rifampin for now. Anyway bactrim and ceftin might work.
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They say to rife on Lyme at intervals, not every day. But i do 612 or sweep 612-614 every day and it usually feels good! 612 almost always feels good, but 432 and 2016 don't give me any feelings, so i don't run them.
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D Bergy
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I run most everything as a small sweep. I have been running 832 Hz as a sweep from 831 to 833 Hz.
Some of these pathogens, maybe all, do not have just one set frequency, but seem to vary a little.
Original Rife equipment wandered around in frequency some. No digital controls at that time. I think that is part of what made it work so well.
I do not think 2016 Hz kills fast like 612 Hz does. I think it slowly degrades cyst form until it dies off. I would run 2016 at its highest harmonic that your machine can run. If using the GB-4000, run it as a eight frequency harmonic autoprogram. I run 612Hz the same way.
612 Hz seems to kill spirochete form immediately.
At some point, 612 Hz will not do much anymore. When there is no Spirochetes to hit, there is no effect from it. It is a pretty useless frequency if you are on antibiotics.
I never could get much effect from 432 Hz either, but it has been seen damaging Spirochetes under the microscope. Possibly it needs a lot of power to work. 612 Hz does much the same, so both may not be needed. You can also try a higher harmonic of 432 Hz and see if it works better.
I do not see a problem treating every day if you are to the point you can do it, without suffering badly. Take weekends off or something like that, just to get a break.
I would not treat for hours, but enough to keep the Spirochetes down. It can convert at any time, and sometimes you can get a feel for when it does, by a symptom reappearing.
There are not many hard and fast rules with this treatment. We are all still in the process of defining how to go about it.
Dan
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lymielauren28
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Dan, I agree that 612 works really well. I've actually found for me personally that 1,224 works even better. As far as 2016 is concerned - it's given me the strongest herxes but they are "delayed" compared to my normal herxes. Odd.
I'm making progress with the new infection so long as I rife everyday for bart. Feeling myself get a little better and a little stronger it seems with every session:)
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CD57
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yay Lauren!
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