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Wow. So informative. So I've been maintenance rifing w/o abx for almost 2 years. Had two nasty tick bites that put me on 4 weeks amox. I also held the wand to the bite and rifed with my EMEM3 for lyme and co's. I essentially used rife as a preventative after a tick bite. I had a nasty growing red spot around the bite that stopped growing in size and went away with rife.
I feel pretty good! Going off of abx now, again.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Polly -- thanks. I think I am going to autoprogram channels to run the frequencies individually so I can get the full effect as well as run the frequencies in the groups.
I have ordered Dr. Sylver's Rife Book and I am hoping she might shed some light on my question as well.
Catskillmamala -- So glad to hear that you have been abx free for 2 yrs (except for recent tick bite, which I would have gone on abx for too). How often do you rife a week? And do you just rife for Lyme?
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SS - This is such great news about the positive changes in your health. You are an inspiration
At the end of this year, I too hope to be off abx and just use herbs/rife/salt&vit c. I am hoping at the beginning of 2011, that I will be able to do the AI therapy also.
Like you, some might think I have done it backwards. Detox/AI last, but whatever works, and this is how the cards have fallen for me.
I am so glad that you are having success with using the detox frequencies on your rife machine. Once I get the GB4000, I hope to run the detox frequencies as well.
I wouldn't give up rifing for lyme & co-infections. I think your plan is smart - once a week and increase time & change up some frequencies.
As we know, these lil' suckers like to hide, and this way your weekly lyme rife sessions will catch them when they come out of hiding.
Please check-in from time to time to let us know how you are doing. It would be a nice reminder that we can use our machines not for killin' but for immune support as well.
Happy Healing!
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It is correct that you are dividing the power by the number of frequencies you are using. Sometimes this does not matter, but I do think it does matter with Lyme. You need all the power you can get for that bacteria.
I use Lyme autoprograms as harmonic autoprograms.
One of them is 306, 612, 1224 and so on. I run all of these harmonics of the same frequency at once on the GB-4000. It works well. Each only gets a fraction of the power as opposed to a single frequency, but since they are essentially the same frequency harmonics wise, it does not matter.
The high voltage question is still up in the air. No one has tested the new MOPA high voltage device on Lyme yet. I will be soon as the machine arrives. It is the way Rife did it, but Rife did not work with Lyme.
I think I can safely say that even the low voltage / high current machines we are using now kill a lot of the Lyme, but it seems that the deeper in the body you get, the harder it is to kill. It is this remnant I am after.
I like to have the ability to run high frequencies, because sometimes they work better. I also like to have the most versatility I can get. You certainly can get along fine without the high frequency capability.
I use my machines for various pathogens that are not always Lyme related. I think most people here are primarily concerned with Lyme and co-infections. I will be experimenting with this for years to come, so my needs are somewhat different than average. For instance, I know a person with a particularly tough case of Impetigo. Nothing has worked to get rid of it.
Now they want to try frequency treatments. I have no idea what range of frequencies are going to be the most effective for Impetigo, so I want to be able to use high and low frequencies, as sometimes it makes a big difference.
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Polly that's awesome. What frequencies are you using to hit babs?
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asummers, I rife once a week, or two weeks, on a variety of lyme, erlichia, babesia and bartonella frequencies. I use a list I generated from the CAFL and Nynah Silver and then I winowed that down by which frequencies felt like a "hit"- that is causing buzzing, tingling, discomfort, etc.
I change up my frequencies and usually throw an extra one or two in. After this last tick bite, 364 for bart felt powerful even though it had never affected me before.
I usually do between 30 seconds and 2 minutes per frequency with no standard rhyme or reason.
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I may have had a Bart herx today, using this idea of runnning single frequencies instead of 8 frx together each at 1/8 strength.
For a couple of months i've been running a Bartonella channel as 3 groups, 9 min total, but there are 18 frex in the whole channel.
I was satisfied, because it seems to keep the symptoms way down. But there has been not much change or progress, just the daily maintenance.
So today i ran the 18 Bart frex as singles, 1 min each. ( I have one channel programmed as groups, another channel with the same frex programmed as singles.)
Result: Nice clear head for a few hours, then feeling herxish the rest of the day and had to sleep 1 1/2 hours.
I had also run some Babesia and lyme frequencies, and also some Candida, fungus, and mold frex.
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Pam, what frex did you run for bart?
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but the short version of that i took from catskillmamala:
76 570 1584
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What is the longest anyone has rifed in one session.
I did 6 hours the other night.!
No joke
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Does anyone get stomach pain or nausea after rifing or as a herx? If so, from which frequencies (lyme, bart, etc)?
Thanks,
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Hello all
I was wondering if any of you have traveled with your Rife machine? I am wanting to take it somewhere and have to fly.
I have a suitcase it fits in. Do you think this will be a problem? How best should I do it? Carry on?
Tick Battler. I have not had stomach pain or nausea for a long time. But in the first month I did have a strong reaction in the stomach and gut.
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TB I did 612 for the first time for 15 minutes along with some bart freq for 5 min each. I already am on the MP so I'm use to gut herxing. That 15 min on 612 kicked up the gut herxing and "sitting on the potty" for several days. When I say gut herxing I mean burping and nausea.
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Thanks spring and jarjar - it helps to hear others have experienced this! I especially notice it after the bart frequencies.
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I've been doing the string of 18 singles Bart frex for a while, and every day it makes me feel Herxish, which means for me woozy, groggy, sleepy.
I'm also doing strings of singles Babesia frex, and Lyme sweeps, so i can't really tell which is causing the head reactions, but i think it's Bart herxes.
I haven't had much time recently to do the Toenail Fungus frex, but i notice that as long as i do the "Wounds" anti-bacterial channel, it keeps away the thick, grey, cracked build-up around the toenails (i.e., the bacterial component).
I usually do the BRAIN-cleaning sequence too, and it usually makes my head FEEL GOOD ; that's why i keep doing it:
430 620 624 840 866 5148 2213 19180.5
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I would by all means carry it on. As I mentioned in an earlier thread. The guy that sold me my gb4000 says he always says it is a biofeedback machine if asked by secrurity and no other question are asked. Dave B. says to tell them it is a freq. generator. But I use to work in the airline industry and would not check it. Not sure what machine you have and how big it is.
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HI I have the BCX Ultra
So you think I should say it is a biofeedback machine? I did not see this talked about before so I apologize.
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I will let you decide and perhaps call the toll free number of the company and see what they say. Dave B says calling it a freq generator is fine.
I think the guy that studied rife that sold me the 4000 said biofeedback as it is something that people have heard about and familiar with so he never had problems after he told them that.
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I can use these frequencies on the DT EMEM, right? I use some of them already but wouldn't mind adding! Right now I using 832 and 1518 for 6 min each.
How much time should I do for each of these the first time around?
I use the following for Lyme (2 1/2 min) 432, 800 4328
I use for Erlich: (only 1 min 20 sec or HERX) 375 550, 942, 1064
I do the above every 10 to 14 days and get a herx each time.
I also do parasites once or twice a month (aiming for every other week) and do Babs at that time, too.
Sometimes I rife for Candida and Fungus and then another day for viruses but it was getting to be too much.
This is a great thread and i hope to be more active here. Thanks for your help.
quote:Originally posted by pamoisondelune: Hi CD, How are you doing?
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Welcome, Mojo!
Yes, you can use the same frex on the EMEM!
How long do your Herxes last and how bad are they, and how soon do they follow the rifing? I'm just wondering, how soon do you follow with your next rifing after you recover from a Herx?
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Hi CD!
(Message from CD:QUOTE CD57 I just did my first session today of GB4000! did the Lyme and babesia channel and half a bart auto channel of 832....didnt want to over do on first day.
do you have the power turned all the way up?) UNQUOTE
Answer to CD: At first i had the power turned way down. Yes, now, all the way up.
That sounds like a lot for the first day!
I forget your case--- you've been on abx for a long time and your bacterial load is not so high?
How many minutes?
What did you use for Lyme?
Had you been treated for Bart? I just reread that you have bad Bart symptoms.
That's such a great thing about rife, isn't it?--- we can treat Bart ! without rupturing tendons or other horrible sideeffects.
---- I think i hit the jackpot, rifing on Bart singles frex. Every day i run these, 18 frex as singles, one minute each, and it gives me a herxish every day.
(Unless it's the Lyme or Babesia rifing; i can't tell for sure as yet.)
I'm hoping for some improvements out of this! ----
I'm glad more people are rifing! Welcome to new thread members!
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just a little update. I ran the 612 Hz Lyme harmonic program which consists of 612 Hz and seven other harmonics running all at the same time.
No reaction what so ever. To me, this means very little, or no Lyme has converted to Spirochete form. I think that is significant because it should have in this amount of time. I have not treated her in a couple of weeks
I also ran the other harmonic program that is based on 2016 Hz and this did produce some reaction. this tells me that while there is not much Spirochete form, there still is some cyst form.
All of these were run using the GB-4000 running through the Rife Labs EMX plasma device.
Tomorrow I should get the new MOPA device. I wanted a base line of a normal reaction so I can compare any difference. 50 Watts of power that spikes to around 250 watts with gating. I think the Lyme is going to have trouble hiding from this particular device.
I hope it smacks the heck out of the remaining Lyme.
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Dan -- I am so curious to see how this new machine is going to work on your wife. I read about it on the website and it looks promising.
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Dan.. Maybe you can help me. I am feeling I need to research more on how to fiddle with some of the main settings on my machine. They say to use the defaults when making up my programs but I want to learn more.
With my machine there are choices of Wave forms types of :
WAVE FORMS: You can use square wave for killing pathogens and you can use sine wave for regeneration and healing. The Ultra has many other wave forms to choose from for your experimentation.
Is my basic knowledge and I know I need to research more for sure on this but I thought you can answer at least the options on my machine such as the Harmonics?
I am wondering what you can share about those and how it affects the treatment?
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I am also trying to learn more about the Carrier Wave.
For my machine it says.
CARRIER WAVES: �The Ultra has a basic carrier wave that is preset at 45,000 Hz for the glass tubes only. There are 3 carrier waves to choose from for the rest of the electrodes. They are 1.67, 1.25 and 1.00 MHz (1,000,000 Hz). �The Ultra has a carrier frequency because simply as the audio frequency piggy backs (is carried) by the RF frequency (carrier) it penetrates deeper and farther. It is a known fact that RF or radio frequencies above about 200,000 Hertz broadcast very well and that is why they are called radio frequencies. Frequencies between 20,000 and 200,000 Hz broadcast to some degree. Frequencies below 20,000 Hz do not broadcast at all and that is why when using the Ultra it is recommended that you use channel A one of the three RF carriers we provide (1.67, 1.25 or 1,00 MHz) and for channel B use the desired audio frequency found in the manual.
I also am trying to learn more about
GATING OR ENTRAINMENT: This is what we used to call pulse. The previous unit had a pulse rate of about 2/3's on and 1/3 off. We use 3.5 Hz as a default in the Ultra. Abrams who worked with Rife used 3.5-4 HZ for gating. Dr. James Bare, a leader in the field of frequency technology, recommends 20-30-40 HZ for gating. It is generally believed that the higher the frequency the higher the gating. Rife's 1939 instrument , which ran in the MHZ range, had a 60 cycle gating. What is gating? Gating is another form of modulation. The Ultra is modulating 2 frequencies when it plays an audio frequency with a carrier (RF) frequency. In other words the audio frequency is piggy backed onto a higher frequency. All the time this is happening the Ultra introduces say 3.5 HZ gating so you see that blink, blink as you play your frequencies. Entrainment is defined as: ``the tendency for two oscillating bodies to lock into phase so that they vibrate in harmony. It is also defined as a synchronization of two or more rhythmic cycles. This principle of entrainment is universal in nature.
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DUTY CYCLE: The Ultra has a default of 90 percent duty cycle. For many years people have run the standard 50% duty cycle. It is now known that a 90 % duty cycle exposes microorganisms to the frequency for 80% more time than a 50% duty cycle. Do the math. 90% is 80% greater than 50%. It is known that that the higher the duty cycle, the greater the coordinative resonance. However, experimenters may chose any duty cycle 1-100 using the Ultra .
What is duty cycle? Duty cycle is how long the frequency is on and off when you are running a frequency. For example, if you are running the frequency 100HZ, the frequency is cycling 100 times per second. A 50% duty cycle means that the frequency is on 50 % and off 50% of each second. The 90 % duty cycle means that the frequency is on 90% and off 10 %
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Thanks to whoever mentioned about rifing for babs before bart could get resolved.
My brain is too foggy to remember so that isn't fixed yet BUT I'm excited because I rifed for babesia which I haven't really before. Then I rifed for rickettsia/bart and my feet are so much better! I usually have to walk with MBT's shoes and I can actually walk barefoot without excessive pain!!
So thanks to whoever mentioned that.
Now if could get rid of these weird red, infected, raised sore bumps on my face. They are pimples but are sore like a pimple but no head. I don't have them all the time but when I do it takes 2-3 weeks to get rid of them. What is it??
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Spring and Dan--- That is very interesting, what Spring is posting about square wave for killing and sine wave for healing. Is that true?
Does that mean square wave is a positive offset and sine wave is a negative offset ? (from what they were posting on the lyme-rife forum)?
No wonder the Bone Growth frex in my GB4000 manual didn't work! They were in square waves!
I've read that 50 Herz was used to produce bone growth in rats, and i didn't know why it didn't work for me.
I'm wishing i'd bought a BCX ULtra instead of a GB4000.
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I have never tried it, but I think you may be able to run any frequency in sine wave on the GB-4000.
You can try it, and it will either do it, or it will tell you it has to be run in a square wave.
The reason square waves are used has to do with the harmonics a square wave automatically creates when run.
It may be that a sine wave works better for healing, but I am not sure anyone has ever tested that theory. Rife did not develop any of the healing frequencies. They are largely anecdotal.
There is a pathogen damaging effect with just a square wave for some organisms, and Lyme seems to be one that is affected by just a square wave.
The effect that Rife had with a sine wave appears to be from the gating he used, and the fact he used a high voltage/low current machine. When you gate a sine or square wave, on a high voltage vacuum tube machine, you get a high voltage spike right at the beginning of the wave. This spike is what is thought to have made his machines so much more effective than the ones we are using today.
Of course this is only plausible theory at this point. It has not been tested much yet, as this type of machine has not been available for a long time. The Doug Coil comes close, but it is not gated, to my knowledge. Possibly why the Coil has a better record of success than other types.
The MOPA device has most of the elements of the original Rife machine, and that is why I am going to use it.
One early report of a person using it for throat Cancer said he could feel it soon as he used it for the first time. Does that mean it is going to cure him? I have no idea. Cancer is tricky, and feeling it does not equate curing it. We need a little more time to see if this method is going to be better than the current ones.
Having said all of that, we have reduced the Lyme to almost a non factor by using the current machines, mostly the GB-4000. They are not ineffective, but they may not be as effective as the next, older generation of machines.
We may have to go back to the future and revisit the old technology of high voltage and vacuum tubes to get a better result. We should know within the next few months if this is the case.
Luckily, there are still a few old timers that understand the complexities of vacuum tube tech.
Dan
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quote:Originally posted by LoneDove: Thanks to whoever mentioned about rifing for babs before bart could get resolved.
Now if I could get rid of these weird red, infected, raised sore bumps on my face. They are pimples but are sore like a pimple but no head. I don't have them all the time but when I do it takes 2-3 weeks to get rid of them. What is it??
I get that sometimes - on my face and scalp - usually when I'm treating parasites. Have you addressed parasites yet?
My friend (she posted here about it) is treating parasites and her whole face cleard up.
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quote:Originally posted by mojo: [QUOTE]Originally posted by pamoisondelune: [QB] Welcome, Mojo!
Yes, you can use the same frex on the EMEM!
How long do your Herxes last and how bad are they, and how soon do they follow the rifing? I'm just wondering, how soon do you follow with your next rifing after you recover from a Herx?
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My herxes begin from immediately after rifing to one day after and last for one to three days - always different. I got a huge herx when I added in the Erlich frequencies.
As far as how bad they are - it's different each time! Last week I was pretty sick for two days. My herxes are flu like symptoms (bad head and stomach) as well as overall malaise and fatigue. I get puffy eyes, too, and my eyes feel wierd (can't describe it because it's completely unique to rifing)
Up until the last month or so I would get terrible headaches and stomach issues and would know that it's time to rife. I rife every 10 to 14 days - I've been following DT's instructions but thinking maybe I want to get more agressive.
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Strep and/ or Staph is often involved with skin outbreaks. You may want to try those frequencies and see what happens.
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Just a side note on how bad the ticks are in Northern MN.
We went out into the woods yesterday to look for Morel Mushrooms. By the time we were done, we both picked off over 20 ticks each, one Dog Tick was attached to my wife. About one forth of the ticks were Deer Ticks.
I do need to find a quick easy way to kill of tick borne illness, since we are bound to run into it time and time again.
That is just one more reason I need to explore frequency treatments, to their conclusion.
I am sure there are many other areas just as bad as ours.
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I'm rifing for parasites and strep and staph along with many others: borrelia, rickettsia, babesia (now!), staph, strep, adneovirus-2, ebv, cmv, mycoplasm, skin cancer. I don't have skin cancer but some funny things have peeled off after running skin cancer.
Maybe I need to move closer to the bulb.
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Closer the better.
You may also want to try Herpes Zoster. Chicken Pox virus. Not a likely cause, but sometimes it is not obvious.
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The fleas have been horrific here. I just shaved 2 of my dogs and put spot stuff on them (which I hate to do but don't know anything as effective). One dog that has NEVER gotten hot spots before has a couple of hot spots from scratching. I put colloidal silver on her and am going to bathe them in lavender shampoo.
I have about 30-35 flea bites on my forearm that are trying to heal. Fleas, mosquitoes have always loved to bite me but I've never had such a mess of bites in one place.
Ticks could be next here...it's been wet and we're starting to get more storms this time of year.
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Who is Rifing for the Fry bug with success?
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LoneDove, I have the same horrible acne like bumps on my forehead and now cascading down the sides of my cheeks. I always thought that they were toxins but now I am thinking they are parasites. What frequencies are you using for parasites?
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If you have fleas in the house, you have a good chance of getting the same small tapeworms that I did.
Our children brought a stray cat with fleas to our house. Our other animals then got the fleas and it took a while to get rid of them.
If you accidentally swallow one of those fleas that have tapeworm larvae, you will then be a host to these rice like tapeworms.
I used MMS to get rid of them, but any good anti parasitic remedy will likely work.
At least here, the ticks prosper in dry weather. It was bone dry here for several weeks. I think that is why we have so many this year. last year I did not see many.
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Sometimes I have rifed for herpes for the heck of it and it has helped. I'll try that.
Actually, different herpes viruses cause different maladies like ebv....
Ok, help me on this...my brain fog is awful and I've actually have been depressed. I hate being depressed. I feel like I'm under water and everything is in slow motion. It's worse now that it's warmer. If it's cool outside I'm much more animated. Dan, any suggestion to run for this?
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I don't have a frequency other than 10,000 Hz to get the lymph system moving.
I had depression for over thirty years, and I found the problem was low grade chronic inflammation from undiagnosed Crohn's Disease.
Now inflammation is probably not the only cause of depression, but if you have an inflammatory disease, it is a likely cause. Especially if its onset came with the disease.
I used Turmeric and Ginger capsules, at two doses a day each, 1500 mg per dose of each. I also used Krill Oil at a double dose.
This accidentally brought an end to my depression. I was not trying to cure depression, but I was trying to get my Crohn's inflammation under control. It was a complete accident, but an important accident.
Now I use Low Dose Naltrexone to control the disease, and I no longer need to take the large doses. I still take small doses of all of them.
All of these supplement affect the consistency of the blood, makes it more slippery, and thins it out slightly. If you take blood thinners, you want to be careful.
All of these supplements also aid in the treatment of Lyme Disease for reasons I will not go into here.
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Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-5162
They can give you a better sense of well being and get those organs moving and working more efficiently.
When I started rifing I started with just those and it made a big difference for me right away.
I now have to work much harder to get a reaction or see improvement and I am thinking thats a good sign.. But I still run these any time I do any rife at all.
Hope it helps.
Also this whole thread if filled with others ideas and programs and numbers for detox and for rifing overall.
Not heard much about depression but I could look it up in my books and manuals etc.
I am adding adrenal and thyroid numbers lately. I put the ray tubes right on the thyroid and also where the adrenals are on each side.
Hoping that will help them or stimulate them and make them work better and improve function.
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LoneDove: I get right on top of that machine.
Although once I had my sister sit in on a Candida session and she wasn't as close as I was - she herxed like crazy for days and I didn't herx at all.
I was doing the IF sauna very regular and her yeast is worse than mine.
Thanks Springshowers for the cleansing and other frequencies I will definately try those!
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pamoisondelune
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LoneDove--- Here's my remedy for herpes simplex lip sores:
LOMATIUM
It's an herb in the parsley family that grows in the dry Western plains. It's antiviral. It saved the WAshoe Indian tribe from the 1918 pandemic flu.
LOMATIUM completely, permanently wiped out my Herpes simplex lip sores. I just don't have to worry about that problem any more.
Lomatium is sold on the internet in the form of extracts. It doesn't cost much.
----Polly Polygonum ------or Nilufar Knotweed
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I received the MOPA late this afternoon. Watched the DVD that came with it, and set it up.
Here are a few helpful hints that may help when running this device.
Use a twenty amp outlet, it will kick out a fifteen amp circuit. When the lights go out from the machine starting up, it is intimidating to the person being treated, the person in this case was my wife. I heard "Just how much power is this thing using?" I also heard "Did we knock out the whole neighborhood". It was all kind of amusing to me, but she was not really laughing about it.
If you have arc fault circuit breakers, as I do, your problems are not over yet. Once I plugged into the twenty amp outlet, it worked fine the first time. When I started it up the second time to run some frequencies on myself, the twenty amp circuit held, but it knocked out the lights on the fifteen amp circuit again. Arc fault circuit breakers suck to begin with, and when the GB starts feeding into the MOPA, it seems to draw a lot of juice. Why it took out a completely separate circuit is kind of strange, but these breakers seem to go out if you pass wind at times, so they are not very stable to begin with.
I am going to try run my cord through a APC battery backup in hopes of smoothing out the power surge. I will let you all know how that works out.
The plasma tube gets pretty warm after twenty minutes. I am not sure if there is a limit on how long you should run it, but if there is, it would be good to know.
I ran the 2016 Hz Lyme harmonic autoprogram with the carrier at 100 on the dial. I do not remember the frequency, but it is outside of the AM radio band, so I just used that setting to prevent any problems.
I ran the 2016 Hz harmonic for seven minutes with no reaction or sensation at all. I thought that was odd, but I have had it happen before with the 612 Hz harmonic program. I assume there is nothing in that range to hit. For the remaining thirteen minutes I switched on channel sweep mode. Channel Sweep mode varies the frequency five Hz above and below the set frequencies.
It only took a minute and the reactions started. Back, hip, ankle pain, and many other areas also. She had a stabbing sensation in one toe, and was in a bit of pain from that one. It would fade in and out, and I am assuming that as it reached a certain frequency as it swept, the reactions would increase as it hit the perfect range.
She had enough after that run, and I was not going to run it any longer on the first time out. Even though I had run the exact same program the day before, and for almost twice as long, I think I can say it was more effective if reactions mean anything.
Before she went to bed, some of the pain was fading, but she said the bottom of her feet felt like they were swelling. Never had that happen before.
It appeared to cause pain about everyplace. I am not sure what that means, but I felt nothing from it. Hopefully it means a lot of Lyme was destroyed, but that is not proven at this point.
I ran the Mycobacterium subspecies Avium Paratuberculosis aka (MAP) bacteria program on myself. This is a suspected Crohn's pathogen. I realized when I was done that these DNA frequencies were all running at the same time. I intended to run them in a sequence. This may not work through a plasma tube this way, so it was probably a waste of time. I felt nothing from the treatment, but I will do it the proper way next time.
Quite an intimidating device, but maybe it will get the job done. Now I will wait for a while and see if symptoms come back. I am quite sure I have enough power, and penetration. I may not have the perfect frequency though.
Dan
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She is still hurting from last nights treatment with the new MOPA device.
Since I did run the exact same autoprogram for almost twice as long the night before, only using the GB-4000 hooked up to the relatively weaker Rife Labs EMX, I can make some comparisons.
The first night using the EMX produced some increased ankle pain, as she already had some before treatment. The next day the pain was gone, which is more or less typical. No other areas were affected as far as sensations or pain experienced.
The next evening, running the more powerful MOPA, she felt pain all over running the same program for half as long.
If the pain level of the treatment means anything, then I would assume it hit much more Lyme than has been hit the prior night.
While most people would not feel a treatment no matter what, she has always been unique this way. I use this to my benefit, as it seems to allow me to home in on what works or what does not work.
I just hope it is an accurate indicator.
Dan
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Dan, How did you rewire your house for 20 amps? Is that a big project?
----Polly Polygonum -----or Nilufar Knotweed
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Where did you get the lists for all the frx above?
I can't wait to Rife again! One of my blood tests came back saying I have chronic kidney disease, more tests have to be done. It's freaking me out! (I can't Rife until I get this heart monitor off.)
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Most Kitchen outlets are 20 Amps. The ones set up for Microwaves, high draw portable appliances.
You can look at your circuit breakers to find out which are 15 and 20 Amps.
If you do not have any 20 Amp outlets, you would need to rewire to use larger 20 amp breakers. So yes, that would be a big job.
I tried to hook up the MOPA through a battery backup, but it did not change anything. The 20 amp outlet did not kick out, but it would kick out the 15 amp arc fault breakers on another circuit.
Unless you have a new house, it is unlikely you would have arc fault breakers. They have only been in the electrical code for a couple of years. They are not the same as ground fault breakers.
We had to put them in because we built a new house. I will probably be taking them out and replacing them with regular breakers. Code or not, they are often kicking out for no good reason.
The second run with the MOPA was about the same as the first. Lots of discomfort and she still has some traveling pain today. I am going to lay off until she fully recovers from the last two treatments.
The MOPA does hit pretty hard. I would not have had this kind of reaction with the old setup.
We will see how she feels in the next couple of days.
Dan
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Sorry, I missed your post earlier Spring.
I do not know what the Exponential Ramp thing is all about.
I do know some have said that triangle waves need to be looked at closer as they have characteristic that may make them good for killing pathogens. I think basically because it is an abrupt rise time, and peak. Sort of like a sine or square wave when it is used with gating.
Trapezoid wave is nothing anyone has really used that I am aware of.
Odd or even order harmonics, is just that. There is no research that indicates one or the other is any better worse.
I do think having harmonics makes a difference in treating. A plasma tube automatically creates harmonics when frequencies are run through it. Something to think about when using a contact method that does not use a plasma tube.
Not that a single frequency does not work, but harmonics may be important for some pathogens, but not all of them. I think harmonics are particularly important when treating Cancer.
That is about all I know about those particular terms. I am not an expert by any means on electronics and wave forms. I have learned a bit from some experts.
Dan
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THanks Dan I appreciate that. I got to get some more reading done as I am ready to learn more and be able to try various settings instead of leave it on the manufacturers defaults. I may call them directly too to ask some questions.
I got the programs from the manufacturer who provided it to a group of patients who were attending a certain clinic for lyme treatment.
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Dan,
Could you describe again how to hook up the GB-4000 so it runs through the EMEM? What you hook to what?
You said once before something about a banana plug, but that was befor i had a machine, and i imagined something big, yellow and curved, the size of 2 hands.
Now that i have seen the equipment, i'll be able to visualize it better.
Thank you for your long-term help ,
-----Polly Polygonum ------or Nilufar Knotweed
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