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There may be disagreement on this topic minerva, but I personally would not be comfortable entirely stopping an antimicrobial program for Lyme disease if you are known to still have active infections.

I'm waiting now for Round 8 to arrive...

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LP, no, besides Dr. Natura or similar agent I would not use the pharma anti-parasite now. I think that would be too much while the body is so busy working with the drops. Maybe you can have it energetically tested.

Hobo, I recently picked up NOW glycine (one pound) for about $15., not in capsules, which you can put into a bit of water and drink. It's the easiest to take - has a slightly sweet taste. Take it away from other proteins. It works for both chemicals and metals and who knows what else.

We are really trying to get rid of all the plastics in your life. I think this is one reason why it is felt by AI that Americans are more toxic and have to go through so many more bottles before the turnaround comes. I am constantly wrecking my brain trying to figure this out - EMF, home construction, carpeting, wood paneling, insulations, paints, exposure to the the daily news - murder, fire, bedlam. Why are we more toxic? One major item is consumption of vitamins and food supplements. Not anyone I know living overthere is taking the supplments as we are -- of that I am certain. Most aren't taking any. Where do many of the basic materials for vitamin manufacturing come from?
People in most of Europe eat food - not nutritional supplements and not castrated foods! Cost of supplements is prohibitive and they are not available in every drug store as they are here in quantities like here. They are putting the limits on many - I am sure their medical costs would go through the roof like here.

My husband fainted last year - stayed in ER for 2 nights - Cost $16,000! Insanity. They were never able to find out why he fainted. My homemade red pepper tincture brought him around in 5 seconds. Impossible they said.

Constant exposure to disease on this board affects us more than we are willing to admit.

I just called AI and tossed more questions at them. The above is basically what I hear from them -- get away from more toxins.

Well, Dr. K. started to find the phthalates (plastics) in literally every patient he saw - and that started years ago. Plastic in breastmilk! Citrus drinks out of plastic bottles or alu cans! Water out of plastic bottles especially after they sat in the car in summer weather!

We need to change.

Take care.

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If allergic to wheat, corn and soy, as most are, that means we are allergic to many supplements before doing AI or being treated effectively before taking them.

Any patients visiting Dr. K. are allergic to 2/3 of the bags of supplements they first come in with. Many practitioners on the other hand are not able to determine this by any means of testing.

According to Dr. K., There are four different types of allergies: Autonomic Nervous system response; immunological; emotional; allergies as a biochemical consequence.

No matter which one we suffer from, any allergy stresses the body. Not sure that's the right thing to do day in and day out.

Take care.


P.S. speaking from experience and 13 years of Klinghardt lectures.

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If allergic to wheat, corn and soy, as most are, that means we are allergic to many supplements before doing AI or being treated effectively before taking them.

Any patients visiting Dr. K. are allergic to 2/3 of the bags of supplements they first come in with. Many practitioners on the other hand are not able to determine this by any means of testing.

According to Dr. K., There are four different types of allergies: Autonomic Nervous system response; immunological; emotional; allergies as a biochemical consequence.

No matter which one we suffer from, any allergy stresses the body. Not sure that's the right thing to do day in and day out.

Take care.


P.S. speaking from our own experience and 13 years of Klinghardt lectures.

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If allergic to wheat, corn and soy, as most are, that means we are allergic to many supplements before doing AI or being treated effectively before taking them.

Any patients visiting Dr. K. are allergic to 2/3 of the bags of supplements they first come in with. Many practitioners on the other hand are not able to determine this by any means of testing.

According to Dr. K., There are four different types of allergies: Autonomic Nervous system response; immunological; emotional; allergies as a biochemical consequence.

No matter which one we suffer from, any allergy stresses the body. Not sure that's the right thing to do day in and day out.

Take care.


P.S. speaking from our own experience and 13 years of Klinghardt lectures.

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I'm not totally in 100 percent agreement with you that Americans and a zillion more toxic than Europeans. Perhaps if they live in the coutry, but not the citie snd not the suburbs. I lived in Spain and my ex wife was from Paris. These are polluted cities, bad wiring, cell phones, plastics, MUCHO CIGARETTE SMOKE, etc. Many of our problems.

My instrinct if a doctor says he can't get Americans well, could be a cop out answer.

But, yes, we are a toxic race.

What we need is a time machine.

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I also worked at the United Nations a while. Even though NYC had no smoking laws, you could smoke in the UN and they did. Also our office before I joined was on the floor over the Electrical power floor -- and almost evey woman in the office got tumors or even cancer. Thus, they moved the office.

Ofr course no law suits won.

Scary!!!!! I will never live or work in a high rise.

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What can be used instead of pestasol -- that is expensive!
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http://www.nextag.com/apple-pectin-powder/stores-html

An apple a day ....... we use the apple crushed plus the pectin added to it

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what is a good source and brand for
Chlorella,
charcoal,
pectin,
betasitosterol,
chitosan,

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chlorella, biopure , gigi will comment on this most likely but dr. k tests it and it is a clean source. chlorella is an algae and will bind to toxins..so you have to be careful on your source.

charcoal, almost any health food store will carry charcoal. i have several brands, one i am using now is mms pro.

pectin, can buy in bulk at herb stores..Gigi provided a great link above.

Betasitosterol can also be found at health food stores. ifyou have access to a clinic where the brand Pure is sold, they make something called cholestepure and it has the betasitosterol in it.

Chitosan, online or health foods tore..its pretty basic. often used to absorb fats for people on a diet.

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Just a note... purchased AI back in March... finally sent off my sample 2day ... I can no longer cope with these crippling chemical allergies...its debilitating...heightened by abx for sure..so...I sit and wait with nothing left but hope.
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Cooper, I used to smell everything - when my son would arrive at the front door, with his shirt dried with Downy, I would smell it upstairs many feet away.

Everything that bothered me is gone, gone, with the added benefit that I can now see every teeny mark and have crystalclear vision.

If you have it badly, be sure to be patient. It will take a number of rounds of the drops. And be sure you report to them for every round as they ask -- what is still the same, what got worse, and what got better. It is nice for them to know, because there are so many areas/systems to search and find the different connections.

I will be rooting for you.

Take care.

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Thank you GiGi... it is horrid. One wiff and I'm weak weak weak and dizzy for the day. I am very optimistic about this solution. My chemical allergies began 20 years ago when having amalgams removed...this was before there were any safety protocols.
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My husband told me today that "it" looked like wrapped in cellophane ---- that's what pectin does if you take it early enough before the rest of the food comes down the channel...... Do they still make cellophane or is it now only saran wrap????
Generation gap.

Hope you do some wrapping. It pays off in the long run.

Take care.

P.S. I picked some of our fresh raspberries that morning, crushed them, and added a heaping teaspoon full of apple pectin (no cooking). It made a wonderful breakfast addition.

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Also found malic acid helps with aluminum as a chelator/binder. I cant find anything better to help chelate alumninum, Gigi any options?
a product i have been using that i like alot is called chelatorx my doctor suggested. it is a combo of edta, malic, chlorella, and a few other things. so when we test now, alot less tests when i use this product.

My AI Test came back last week. I am not sure if this is second or third round. The second round , some evaporated in my purse, or leaked out...i wrote AI and they said to resend saliva. So this is what my third reading showed:

12 chemical substances
6 energetic blockages

I am really exhausted alot , very sleepy. I often have trouble going to sleep. The past two nites i have used castor oil packs for my liver. I know my liver is big player in my health. I recently had a pesticde exposure, so I am very ill. Energetically testing, i need alot for metals, and pesticides. I am juicing greens alot and trying to keep my body alkaline. My digestion is quite poor..and my elimination, so i know this is an area that needs work. I have enjoyed reading this post and it has given me alot of incenative to keep up the binders..I have been at this game for quite some time and it is very easy to get discouraged.
I am noticing I am having alot of dreams too. I used to not be able to recall my dreams. When i first wake up i lay flat and move my head gently side to side. It helps the recall. Alot of my dreams are about drowning in water..or the ocean or waves coming on top of me. I am starting to record this to keep better track as well as my symptoms while going through the detox.

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Runner,

"trying to keep my body alkaline".

Don't overdo - toxic heavy metals go into solution only in acidic environment.

If you do juice, be sure to eat the fiber - it is as valuable or more so than the juice. I posted it somewhere here. Drink the juice, but put the fiber in a jar and add a little flavorful juice and eat it during the day.

You digestion will get better as your leaky gut heals after the wheat etc. allergies are corrected. It will take several months to heal the gut. Just think how long you have walked around with this.

Cilantro tincture and cilantro tea (made only with a few drops of tincture / testing!) before bedtime help with alu also. But need to be careful if fillings still in mouth. I know you don't. A cup or two of vinegar in bath also help with alu detox.

If alu is severe, I seem to remember Dr. K. uses Desferral. But you need to make sure to replenish Iron because it takes that out also.

You will be running again!

Take care.

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Thanks Gigi..your information you share is worth so much to me..i appreciate this.
cilantro , am very sensitive to, but i love the taste, i buy it fresh and add it to juices or soups.
never heard of the vinegar bath..interesting..didnt know.

Thank you about running! I like to set these pictures as the goal and focus on it.

You take care

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On Round 4 this week.

Now: 9 Chemicals
6 Energetic blocks

In the last round 3, I had
9 Chemicals
5 energetic blocks

hopefully they are different ones, or just maybe having a hard time removing them.

Daughter: 7 Chemicals
7 energ. Blocks

Previous: 9 chemicals
2 energetic blocks

2nd Day, I have bad eye pain again, with sensitivity to smells and polutants in the air with my eyes, like when I smell car fumes whild driving. My eyes burn and are dry. This happened on round two as well.

Feel sticky fluid oozing from my eyes, so am trying sterile moisture solution for eye relief. Hope this is ok...just want to get rid of the sludge and dry pain.

also, my sinuses are releasing things. I have been adding binders as I do not want to swallow and reabsorb anything that is being eliminated!

Very interesting that the eye and sinus thing happens at the same times, off and on, a few hours after I take the drops!

Daughter has no physical reactions to report...just sliding thought fine!

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Parfait, mee too, but I don't credit the sticky eye and sinus outpouringto AI but to thios wicked pollen season we're having. Grass and ragweed. Oh, My!!!!! Bad.

If these drops could take away allergies, I'd feel nearly human again.

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i thought i would try to repost my questions hopeing someone had any thoughts. i should be getting my first round in five days.

Should you keep up with vitimins and mineral supplements while on AI if you are doing a lot of binders?

Do I lose the benefit of treating parasites priot to AI if I am on AI for months and am not taking any anti-parasitics?

If the AI needs to take multiple treatments and one is at it for months and months should I consider also treating for lyme while taking the AI as well?

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i thought i would try to repost my questions hopeing someone had any thoughts. i should be getting my first round in five days.

Should you keep up with vitimins and mineral supplements while on AI if you are doing a lot of binders?

Do I lose the benefit of treating parasites priot to AI if I am on AI for months and am not taking any anti-parasitics?

If the AI needs to take multiple treatments and one is at it for months and months should I consider also treating for lyme while taking the AI as well?

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AI is not a "Lyme disease treatment". Thus, if someone still has active infection, I do not think it is wise to stop all Lyme treatment while doing AI.

I'm on month 8 and I am glad to have done AI but I would not have been comfortable stopping ALL other therapies for that length of time - and I had largely controlled many of the Lyme-related infections before starting AI.

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Hi Scott,
What exactly are you doing for lyme or have you done that you felt was successful?

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Also have sticky/crusty debris around the inner edges of my outer ear, in the nooks and crannies.

Thought it may have been shampoo debris...but is not. It is like something is sticking to my ear and scabby, but not a scab.

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LP, I used a hair color at one time and experienced these crusty remains on my ear for 4 weeks. It gummed up my hair and everything else during the night.

It is definitely toxins exiting by these means. The body will find the most convenient spot to release, whether we like it or not. Be glad it - whatever "it" is, is departing.

Be sure you frequently test for binders - we are now testing several times during the day. At one time it tests for definite metal binders, the next time more geared toward chemical binders, the next time charcoal; it just goes on and on.
When I find to be blocked, because of strong detoxing, I usually unblock it with the binder that is needed at the particular time. It changes constantly, which tells me that everything is on the move.

I hope you are able to test somehow, with tensor or pendulum, whatever, because it is so helpful to know what is happening. It takes the guessing out of the game.

By the way, it is very likely that at one time - possibly many years ago, you used something close to the ears -- shampoo, cremes -- which the body was unable to deal with at the time and simply packed it away. Too many of these "pack-aways" eventually became the burden that brought the jug to overflowing.

I am tickled pink when I see this kind of thing because the body is working again.

Take care.

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I was a hairdresser from age 17 to 40 so I am sure many of these poisons will be releasing. I have had the eye goop,nose running,extreme neck and down the back pain. Lots of emotions coming up to be released.I am sleeping a lot. Still taking KPU supps along with AI. I would not feel comfortable not doing the supps,and my Md agrees as does pendy and bio-tensor. I have had 7-8 day where almost all my symptoms lift.Its so amazing. At that time I feel grounded,have lots of energy and way less pain. Great to feel more positive and hopeful again. After the lift I get slammed again with big time painful symptoms Physical and emotional. Happy Healing everyone Joyce
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I get those wonderful weeks as well. Totally forget anything was every wrong!! Then like you mentioned Joyce, Bam!

I will say that as time goes on each "bam" is less intense but the way things change with this, that is far from written in stone.

I had the crusty thing on the outer ridge of one ear as well, along with a lot of ear pain during that time - a couple of months ago.

The outrageous sensation in my cheekbones and face that was around for several months seems to be going away.

My eyes are still an outlet for toxins and according to the tensor, right now it's chemicals. Glycine is helping a lot with that.

I am carrying binders and drainage remedies in the car as I can feel the toxins roaming about and can't let it go for too long.

Minerva - I'm not taking much in the way of vitamins and supplements. Now and then I get the feeling for something and test it.

I can't offer much about lyme treatment as I haven't been on any antibiotics or killing substances for over a year.

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Just tested with the biotenser (Dr.W's), and my ear crust appears to be a combo of plastics and chemicals.

Eyes are PLASTICS being released today. Like you Nana, I have had outer ear pain when sleeping on my ears...preceding this release.

And, yes, have had my "greyish" roots dyed over the years...now I"m in a delema, of to stop or not to stop...as I am monthly adding that toxic burdon to my body! Always knew it was bad, but that great feeling of youth...after those roots are covered cannot be underestimated.

Guess I have to begin going all natural! This is worse than giving up coffee! Anyone else still dying their hair? Is there a natural product?

Yes, GIGI, i too am happy when these things happen as they are not seriously painful, just very different, and it feels good to know something good is happening toward health. The binders have made a world of difference!

I am learning so much valuable info from doing this therapy.

I'll keep reporting my odd findings...just to compare!

Thank you all for sharing and encouraging me!

lp

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LP - I use Light Mountain Henna - have used for many years. I will not turn grey as long as I can still raise my arms and put it on! I just put it on by the handful working it in like shampoo. No time for strand-by-strand application.

Test it as recommended in the package.

And I love coffee - it is a super antioxidant - so I tell myself and enjoy every sip of it, even through the years of Lyme.

Take care and enjoy!

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There is a company called EcoColors that sells to salons and consumers.

Some of their colors are ppd free. Don't know a lot about them but this thread has inspired me to look around.

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Nana,looking forward to more and more good days and the bam's getting lighter. The most good days I had was 3 together the others were one day once a week. Its like a miracle for me to feel and see these positives after 27 yrs. I use organic henna.I love it as it gives my hair a lot of body. Thanks Nana will look into Eco Colors.Some that I thought were non-toxic are not. So do your homework.Happy healing everyone Joyce
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Thanks for the color suggestions!
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Yes, be sure you test anything you put onto your scalp and hair before you do it. Several years ago, I purchased one made in Italy (can't remember the name), so-called natural, sold at the very prestigious Tahoma Clinic and I got the drippy-drips out of the ears. It also immediately closed up my throat. Luckily Dr. K. usually out of town when needed was here and rescued me on this one with a homeopathic made from the residue in the bottle.

Please do test before using - any!

Take care.

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ay this good info on hair color . i almost bought some at whole foods, naturtint, i will have to get it tested. good idea Gigi.

I am having sleep problems on my drops (i have them anyway)

Ia m working more on the binders, it seems i could be taking binders all day long.

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Remember Natural does not mean organic.It should be certified organic. And everything needs to be energy tested for your own body.
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Runner - maybe try not to take the drops too close to bedtime. The early bottles kept me on the alert also. Now I don't notice it any longer.

Discovered a nice use for apple pectin today --- it was very hot today - always ready for ice of some sort -- took some different fruit juices, mixed a teaspoon of pectin into it, in small dishes and froze all. Makes a nice sherbet in a very short time.

Enjoy the summer!

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Thanks Gigi..your sherbert sounds great..

Healing in santa cruz..any suggestions on color going from light brown to a dark blonde color?

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Gigi, if i take my drops..how long do i need to wait before i take my charcoal or other binders?

not sure if this question has yet been addressed for this is quite a meaty post.

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Funny you all talking about hair colorants... I sort of gave up. I will just use Henna too from times to times, as nothing else seems good.

None of the so called 'natural' colorants except for pure Henna tests for me. The rest, all 'poisonous'.

Same for shampoo. I found a medical one, sold in a supermarket, no added smell, no color, pH 5.5. That is the one that tests for the whole family.

I went to Korea and tested ALL shampoos in a supermarket (because I'll move to Korea soon). I found NONE that I could use. The supermarket was a Tesco + Samsung, a huge one... There were LOADS of shampoos, it took me about 40 minutes to look into all of them.

So I bought loads of shampoo bottles here in Europe to bring to Korea...

Funny that for toothpaste, I won't need to do that as I found a good brand there. And if not, I just go to the mix Himalayan salt + baking soda and brush my teeth with that.

I don't need hair conditioners anymore. What is helping is a home made tincture of cinnamon. I use vodka 40%, let sit for about 6 weeks, shaking it daily, then apply directly on the scalp once every 2 weeks.

It feels divine and the hair becomes like silk (not immediately, but a few days later I started to notice the difference). You get many acupuncture points treated this way too. Not recommended to do before bedtime though.

I don't know for the ones with clear hair tones though, as the tincture is pretty dark red.

Other dangerous things people keep rubbing are creams, milks and oils. I still prefer any natural oil instead. Jojoba is so far, the best I found, but anything cheaper like olive oil, grapeseed oil is also good. Incomparable to any of the stuff we find in normal shops.

And the other dangerous thing I see people using are perfumes or deodorants. Most (if not all) deodorants have aluminium. I would keep them away like devil.

If I want to get some good smell rubbed on my body, I just put a drop of any essential oil in an oil bottle and rub it. Lavander, lemon, there are dozens, hundreds, whatever fits your mood of the day.

An aunt of mine faints when in contact with certain artificial perfumes. They are neurotoxic and allergenic.

Perfumes with isopropyl alcohol, also no, thanks.

People think I'm exaggerating. I don't care what they think. I just don't want to fall sick again. If you all start asking with the biotensor all around you, you may become like me!!

Not because a product is labeled natural and costs a fortune, it means non-toxic or good for everyone. There are many non-expensive alternatives. Only for the hair color, so far I found one single product that is Henna. I couldn't find anything else that tests for me.

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So, do you people feel that all teh drainage from eyes and siniuses rigt now are AI and not allergies? ALos my gums have ben really hurting sinnce doing it.
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Same here. I still feel the tender gums, on and off, with each new bottle. Lasts a day or two, then no more. I still have eye drainage, on and off.

All must go.

Take care.

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Hobokinite,
The eye and sinus drainage I commented on is definately different than allergies.

The sinus thing, has only happened twice to me, and each was a one time blast of something, in the middle of the night, escaping from my sinus...not a continual dripping like seasonal alergies, which I used to have years ago before treatment.

I immediately took some chorella as I did not want to reabsorb anything I was detoxing.

No comparison, especially after testing with biotenser...it's chemical/plastics and candida related, per energetic testing.

I do believe that many experience the seasonal allergie thing...but this that I speak about is different.

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Just got my results back... first time. Am I supposed to send them money for shipping for the first round. Not sure. I sent them the 395 euro's


Also it says 2 to 3 rounds.... does this mean I have to send another 395 after every three rounds?

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I think they tell you when they'd like postage help, Cooper. Why don't you e mail to say you're ready for round 1 if you're uncertain.

No, the 395 covers all rounds of drops, however long it takes; I did wonder the same thing, but Herr G reassured me.

Good luck with the drops: I'm waiting for round 2 to arrive,

Carry

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how long do you wait to take binders after the drops?
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i just want to understand AI payment, do you pay each time for test and drops or you just pay one time?
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I'm hoping that my mucus merrygoround is just AI.
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Runner, you know from experience when you feel worse than normal bad.

Learn to test or get tested. If you show blocked regulation, whatever unblocks you is the culprit, i.e. metals, chemicals, pesticides, etc. Then test for binders. Take binders 30 minutes before meals, and before bedtime.

If you don't know how to test or get tested energetically, I would use intuition and alternate. Whatever comes to mind first - you are good at that!

Take care.

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Fifi25, you just pay one time (395 Euro) and that covers all the bottles you will need. When they send you the bottle, they ask that you pay the postage of $10.00 for each bottle you will be getting. They mention it in the letter that comes with the bottle pr is e-mailed to you. The information re postage is in their letter (in English). If it is not mentioned in the first test results, they are asking for the postage in the second. I don't recall exactly.

Ignore the 3 rounds, or whatever they show in the letter. The Germans are correcting things more quickly than Americans - their average is 3 - 5 bottles.

Take care.


I have heard that from G. and have also been told by a practitioner in Germany who uses the AI.

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