lightparfait
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Mati
I would suggest not taking anything, especially now, as you are just starting the therapy. You want to just be your own "normal" and let all your disregulations reveal themselves in your saliva samples.
Because others report using some supplements now...does not mean it is right for you. It has been almost a year for my daughter and myself, and only now have we added a few supplements. Now was the time for us.
I do not believe anyone will get the fullest of regulations by adding "false" balances to our inbalanced bodies. As your goal is to balance and have the pathways open. You want to get the fullest of regulation before dealing with the residual.
Add things when you know your body recognizes the substances you are lacking...wait until your gut heals enough and ingested intolerences are gone.
I only added suppplements for my daughter when she had no more food allergies and could handle things...She was very regulated in the "gut" to begin this, and now is seeing all positive with the liquid vitamins.
I believe if we started her on the CORE minerals and the multi vitamins with just beginning the AI, she would still not be doing well and not absorbing things...and still mentally hurting.
That is just my feeling from experience. Why rush this and rock the boat, if you are not in a crisis?
Enjoy the emotional freedom from taking any pills or capsules...and just eat good food, hydrate, take a few drops for two weeks, and enjoy life with a minimal protocol for awhile.
Thanks yes I can see the sense in that. I can concentrate on nutritious food. One great thing I take is my breakfast which is a smoothie made from brown rice milk, sprouted brown rice protein powder, maca powder, banana and frozen blueberries. I can feel that doing me good!
Great to hear your daughter is doing so well.
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Can we get a quick head count here with who has been taking AI, how many rounds and their progress?
Michael in the middle of my sixth round. Not seeing any changes yet with allergies, chemical sensativities or EMF, but
I have not had one panic attack in the 7 months or so I have been on this. So, that's a good thing!!!! I would have them almost daily, especially in the winter.
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Lee here--have done 6 rounds. Biotensor is telling me not to take the 7th round yet. I have seen no improvement, yet, but always feel awful when I take it. Can't rest when I get tired midday as I am working fulltime.
I wonder about sending the sample right to AI from the USA right after finishing the 2 weeks of AI. I wonder this because I know I have read that AI keeps working for another 2 weeks. If that is the case, wouldn't that change the sample and the energy water would not match exactly? I realize it would help with turnaround time, though.
Lee
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Quick question...is it a 2 week break in-between drops for those that live in Germany as well? Or is it simply 2 weeks for the people residing in the US due to shipping time?
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I have also had major constipations issues since being ill. i am not sure if it comes from the mercury or two years of abx i did several years ago. I always have to take triphala. i cant tell if ai has helped with this very much or not. i am going to ask my doctor about a parasite cleanse, thanks light for bringing this to light. maybe i am leaving something out.
My gi got better for a few months..and i started eating bananas and more fruit. now i seem to be overgrownwith yeast right now and it is somewhat frustarting for me due to all the elimination diets and yeast treatments. I guess perhaps its because i am very much actively detoxifying metals right now..alot of nickel seems to be the issue..muscle testing as well as my hair analysis. i keep telling myself as long as the metals are there most likely the yeast will be there too..
any thoughts would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Runner21
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A few words for Lee and all interested:
The Biotensor does not tell you what is good for tomorrow. It is only for here and now. The tensor does not tell the future or the past. It gives you the polarities as they exist the very moment you test. That is the same with most energetic testing. It only tests minus and plus polarities and I would not totally depend on testing unless you are really seasoned in it. It is especially difficult if your autonomic nervous system changes rapidly from one minute to the next as if often the case when still ill. It is not reading cards or telling you what is ahead down the way. In fact, the next round may be one that opens up a whole new piece of the road. Unblocks something very important.
If you take longer breaks by not sending in the sample on day 15, it will take you longer to get the remaining corrections that need to be done. The two weeks in between solidify what you have corrected so far, and in the case of wheat allergy, it gives your body a chance to start healing the leaky gut mostly caused by grain allergies. That will probably take less or more than a year - different for everyone, except the people without food allergies. Detoxing starts when you start taking the drops and will continue probably and hopefully forever. That is the only way we can stay healthyin the world of today.
Yes, AI is working on the detoxification that is brought about by the corrections that have been made so far, and may cause you to feel that. The more you support your body, the easier it will be to unload the toxins. These are what makes you feel bad.
The next bottle after you send in your new sample will take care of correcting more of the errors stuck in your system, slowly starting to clean up the chaos that has happened over the years in the body.
You can go slower, of course, but it will take you longer to get through. So everyone is free to as one pleases.
GettingHealthy, yes, the mail in Germany takes one day across the country. So they can send their samples in later. This is the reason HG suggested to us when we started to mail off the new samples right away. It has no influence on what is happening in the two intervening weeks. The still existing errors remain in the system until the new "messages" come in the next bottle. Of course the corrections will continue to work not just for the two weeks, but for all time to come.
We just got ours that took exactly two weeks from Germany to Seattle. I will not wait as long in between before sending ours off, because I do not like the long breaks. Every bottle brings more changes and the sooner the better.
But it is important that you support your detox organs - even if just rubbing some Renelix on the kidneys or doing a castor oil pack around the whole middle back and front to support liver, gallbladder and kidneys. I am sure everyone knows how to do a castor oil pack -- nice and warm - and you can leave it on covered with seran wrap all night. Warm it up before you do it. It is really very comforting.
The errors that are corrected with your present bottle are already established, the switch has been turned in the right direction, and it will stay there. The corrected errors will never show up again in AI testing. They are fixed. There may be other errors in form of chemical blockages that affect how you feel. Often it is not one pure error that causes the malfunction, but a combination of several. One error causing another error.
What is not corrected yet will be corrected in the forthcoming drops, enough for the body to be able to handle and not more. All remaining errors are corrected in the bottles to come.
If you do not feel too chipper, maybe if you reduce the number of drops will help.
Everyone will benefit by reading some of the thread because so many questions have been answered already. We are all busy working and taking care of our family.
I am busy making room for the sprouting spring bulbs!
Take care. Had two grandchildren doing wheel barrels around me trying to get my attention away from here!
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I understand the biotensor is in the here and now and yet everyday (several times a day) when I use it to test my current bottle of AI, it says "no."
Enjoy planting your bulbs as I shovel snow!
Lee
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Do you check to see if your regulation is open before you test things?
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Lightparfait, Thanks. I do this once in while, but should do it more often.
I am testing today that my regulation is open, but it still says "no" to allergie-immun. I find that strange as I take very few supplements-magnesium and seizure meds and vitamin D.
I'll be patient and see what happens tomorrow.
Lee
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Lee...
If you are tapping and clearing and are in a neutral state... then it may very well not be good for you right now!
this happened to me when I was detoxing. If I recall, it was almost two months after I received the drops that I actually started...I was still eliminating the mercury load from removing the amalgams at the time.
Candida was also being eliminated in large amounts then too.
Also I sometimes test that I have enough already in me at the time of testing, and my body does not want more of a dose...I test later, and it either says yes...or the next day I test and all is good for the full dose.
Find out what your priority is and what is blocked...and work on that first.
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Tapping is good, but it may last only minutes, depending on what causes the blocked regulation.
You can also test your regulation, whether open or blocked, by having both feet on the ground and tensor, which will make the tensor move into one direction; then cross your feet (feet on the ground) and tensor, the tensor will then move into the other direction. If it happens this way, your regulation is open.
If the tensor moves in the same direction, in regular or crossed position of the feet (always feet touching the floor), your regulation is blocked.
Hold your (current) drops or stick them in your pocket, and if you have not taken them shortly before you test, most likely when now doing the straight-and-crossed-over-feet tensor test, your tensor will be moving in one direction and then the other direction (the yes direction and the no direction) indicating that your regulation is now open.
If you are still blocked and the tensor is not changing directions, take a toxin vial (metal vial) in your hand and do the same straight-and-crossed-feet testing. If you get the tensor moving in both (yes and no) directions, that means that you opened your regulation with the toxic metal vial. That means that the metal frequency in the vial resonates with the metal frequency in your body. And that means that the metal is blocking your regulation and that you are heavy metal toxic and probably shuttling them around.
Then you keep that toxic metal vial,which just opened your regulation, in your pocket and look around for a remedy or treatment aid that will reverse the last "yes" into a "no" (chlorella, garlic, any metal detoxer). That will tell you what would work best right now to assist the metal detox and to keep your regulation open.
The moment you do not feel right while on the drops, most likely you are in blocked regulation and you should search for something to unblock you. It is not the drops causing it.
I am convinced that the drops will never block you. They are prepared specifically to help you to eventually staying with open regulation and not suffering anymore from dysregulations.
So whatever is happening due to the drops can be any toxin on the move (metal, chemical, pesticide) or your body signaling that it needs help to clear toxins by adding electrolytes, minerals, liquids, etc, or an herbal of some sort.
If you are mineral deficient, you are "hurting" and not feeling good. The drops may make you feel tired because your body is very busy adjusting. But if you feel really miserable, get support for clearing the toxins out.
Stopping the drops does not accomplish much. The body needs the 14 day imprint/reminder. Too tired - take a drop or two less x 3.
Remember that energetic testing with tensor or any other means is difficult if you are mineral deficient or electrolyte deficient. Take a few sips of water with a bit of sole in it to give the body something to "electrify" with - to turn on the lights!
Take care.
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Great details Gigi!
I have found from time to time my thyroid is causing a block. Usually I feel it is my immune system attacking it...or possibly just a regulation trying to happen? Any suggestions to clear this block or to understand this more?
thanks lp
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can we fly with the drops in our suitcase? will they be safe?
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Yes...they are not hurt by scans.
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LP, curious to know before I put my thinking cap on -- what makes you determine that your thyroid is causing a blockage?
I do not believe, neither does DK or HG that the body will attack itself.
Will get back later - having a busy day!
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Lee - sorry I didn't respond to your question - have been away from the computer but it looks like it was answered.
I do not test my drops - I just take them because they are designed for me. Not the same to me as testing for a detox agent or a supplement.
Also, if you are using a biotensor any subconscious thought can influence it. You really have to stay neutral.
This morning I was completely blocked, regulation not open. Stuck a heavy metals vial in my jeans, same, put some chlorella in my pocket - open.
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Nana...never thought of doing that to open....thanks. lp
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Thank you to all who replied to my question.
After trying the method you all suggested my regulation is open. So, I think I will keep testing AI and give it a week. If it still tests negative and I cannot find the cause I will take it and use any appropriate binders, detox that I need.
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Lee, there is such a thing as being switched and double switched in energetic testing, often related to emotional conflicts and only God knows what else: You could be standing in the wrong place of your home, blocked by geopathic stress influenced or EMF exposed while you are trying to test. Avoiding your drops is definitely not the thing to do. Consider writing to HG and tell him about it. Maybe he has a suggestion. Or trust his drops.
You need to rule out these possibilities. Don't use the thick rubber tennis shoes when testing. Be sure you are not reacting to any ofyour clothing or something in your immediate environment. Check your energy field and don't let anyone be present who thinks you are doing woodoo! Turn off all media and computers.
All of this happens all the time to people. It happened to me. I had to move my bed.
Which reminds me: When I still was very sick in 1998 and got to Dr.K's office, practically handcarried by my husband, he could not open my regulation for all the tee in china! He got desperate - he could not find anything among the thousands of items that would open my regulation. (today we have other tricks to do it, not back then). Then with my husband sitting there,he said "take your clothes off", one by one." I did. The first one that opened my regulation was a pure silk blouse.... but blocked up again. I got to my bra - and I was allergic to it - it blocked me dead. He called for Theresa "don't we have a sheet for G?". She brought the sheet, wrapped me up; we drove home, with his instructions to come back that same evening with several sets of complete clothing and bras to test. I did, and he pulled what I could wear for the next few weeks until my body gave up some of the intense sensitivities... which he expected to happen. He could then test me, my body told the truth, and that was the beginning of my Lyme healing journey more than s decade ago. My boys love this story --- knowing full well that their mom is nuts anyway! I am, but it works.
Take care.
LP - mailed.
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I've been reading you all and just not checking in with a post. i have not gotten a biotensor yet, because I'm keeping it all simple by just taking the drops. Suspending my urge to call everything "Lyme" seems to have been the first step for me.
I can report that I've intuitively followed a path that Lightparfait so eloquently suggested:
quote: Enjoy the emotional freedom from taking any pills or capsules...and just eat good food, hydrate, take a few drops for two weeks, and enjoy life with a minimal protocol for awhile.
I am 14 days past round 2 and waiting for the mailman to bring me round 3. As the two weeks off come to an end, I have been getting a lot of spine pain, foggier thinking with twinges of depressed feelings. The worst of it seems to be sitting in tension in my shoulders and neck.
Despite it all, we are taking a three day trip soon to Philadelphia to see the Barnes Foundation (art museum) and visit Hershey for my little one's report on Milton Hershey. I'm looking forward to it although my body is tired. This was not even a possibility for most of the past four years.
My appetite is wacky right now. Did anyone experience loss of appetite in the morning and ravenous feelings at bedtime? I'm wanting sugar... something I usually don't want.
I wish you all well and better than well. You all share such wisdom! Most of all, I want to share that AI is giving me hope for change that is good.
Best regards,
wiserforit
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Wiser,
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Glad your getting out, and enjoying life with your kids!
I relate to your comment: __________________________________________________ "Suspending my urge to call everything "Lyme" seems to have been the first step for me." --------------------------------------------------
For me, being able to say and believe that was the beginning of emotional healing and the opening to move toward the right paths for the rest of my physical healing. I was stuck in "lymeland"!
I have had many of those feeling you share especially the neck shoulder tension, twinges and odd pains that some and go...but the pains I got with the drops did not come back. The pains in the bones came as memories of past pains, and were gone in a few days.
The neck and upper shoulder muscle pains took many months...as they got progressively less in frequency until I have not had them since Dec. now. I believe those where toxin related fibromyalgia for me. As well as lack of amino acids and minerals!
A few months before I started AI, my ND tested me for an amino acid liquid product, that helped the fibro pain. I took it for a month daily and had no fibro pain during that time. Stopped the product to do AI and the pains came back quickly with stress. So I do think I was not absorbing my nutrients properly. Now I'm absorbing more!
I am still detoxing...but feel a big burden is lifted. I don't think I am out of the woods yet!
My daughter had loss of appetite, and became a vegetarian for about 6 months while on the drops. On a recent visit to see her at college, I noticed she ordered meat! She said her taste has changed back to normal now! She is still on the drops.
I have never had a large appetite, and do not crave sweets or food in general. I have to remind myself to eat at good intervals and just make it habit. Because of previous food intolerances, and my families odd tastes, I have lost the joy of cooking over the years. for me, food has been medicine...must eat and make something nutritious, simple and quick. Not easy when your mind is in a fog, and cannot even think at the grocery store of what to put in the cart!
That is from years of making 4 dinners for the 4 of us...at different times of the afternoon/evening. And driving my kids to events and keeping schedules.
Now I do not have that burden, but changing habits is hard. One of my new goals is to start choosing new recipes, at least one new one a week to add some spice to my life! That will be a big break through for me. To change my mindset from working on therapies to recipes!
Have fun going to Philly...if you can get there with all that snow...we had a total of 18 inches...and now I have 3 ft. drifts to take care of this morning!
blessings, lp
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Gigi, that blocked event post is too cool. It is truly amazing how everything in our lives effect this amazing machine called "our bodies".
One man's treasure is another man's enemy.
Pam
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I too started to heal once I came to terms with Lyme and lost interest in putting names on my illness and I suppose I lost my fear of it once I gained confidence in my body's ability to heal itself.
I heard someone say that we have to love our illness to heal from it and that sounded really weird, but now I understand the sentiment better. I have lost all the anger and grief that lifelong illness brought me and for the first time was able to comply with my regimes without it being obsessive, if you know what I mean, and having to talk about it to everyone. I had done some protocols and diets before but they were done with a sort of determination not in the relaxed way i function now. It took until I gave up I think to get here. I think that losing the tension has been vital in my healing and now I am expecting it to be speeded up with AI.
So I got my results and they say I will need 3 rounds. Well that is way out in my estimation and according to the lab tests I have just had done which show me to be really sick indeed with mercury lead and arsenic poisoning which is to be expected when I was first poisoned at 6 months. The tests do show however that I am not detoxing which is correct.
Blockages in spine
7 cervical 10-12 thoracic 4,5 lumbar
So I am about to send for the drops.
mati
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Runner, it was decided by the group of doctors that Vit A Fish liver based works better. Referring to Think Tank, Doctors/Mothers, dealing with Autism. Same problems as most other chronic disease.
Reading what Mati said, I do not love and will not ever love any disease, but I try to be thankful for what I have received and am receiving every day, be it ever so small. Saying thank you in a real way and getting away from being self-centered goes a long way toward wellness.
When going to bed at night, I try to think and thank and talk about for five things that were a gift today!
Take care.
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Some I find true -- some I just don't know and need to learn more. But thought it interesting for some of you.
Take care.
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Runner, for Vit A info. There are some great minds in that Think Tank. AD is also part of it on a regular basis several times a year and in direct practice.
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I just had my hair cut at a new salon and had a real bad MCS reaction to the shampoo they were using. I'm still reeling from it.
Will this derail my AI progress? Have I re-polluted myself in a damaging fashion that I should report to Mr. Grundmeyer?
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I don't think it will derail your progress. Maybe it will just show up as a chemical that your body needs to recognize.
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Wise, ditto Nana. And it may fall in the range of a perfectly natural biological substance that your body has been misreading. HG found a few of these in my "Information system". It could be a natural substance of any kind.
The hair products are the worst, because warmth of water opens the pores and in filter the undesirable chemicals. Then following you apply a load of EMF with the hairdryer and the body is in stress mode.
But please, do believe that it will pass. I am having another million dollar day! If it weren't for my husband who is dealing with a little more of a load, I would be on cloud nine.
Don't worry about reporting to HG. He just hasn't gotten to the depth yet to find all the errors. As he says, an apple may look beautiful until you get deeper into it to find the worm! Layer by layer by layer. Patience.
I test for heavy metals every hour of the day and night and so does my husband. We are also both testing for dental left over - the mustard gas type toxin produced by root canals remaining in various tissue. I use Biologo Detox Dental to catch it. I had no idea there could be that much left in hiding. But we are just a couple of old folk....
Take care all.
Take care.
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i still haven't gotten my second round of drops. it has been over three weeks, i wrote to a-i last week but no response. i remember several of you mentioned it could take a long time..
but the good news: i walked a couple ofl telephone-pole lengths today and yesterday up a fairly steep hill wow!!!!!!
xo susie
zombie i read your post, i'm sorry things are haywire and i hope someone can give you some helo...
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Zombie, what are you taking to catch the fallout? Metals, fungi, mold? Beta Glucan, Florastor, charcoal, Supernatant, Microsilica, Chlorella, Pectin, anything to regulate bathroom, NDF. Are you seeing someone who can test you with ART or other energetic testing? Have you learned to use a tensor to identify what you are missing or should be doing. Liver and kidney support (redroot, Livit 1 or 2 or both Ayush, Unda 243, Renelix. You probably need some support in that direction. I know I would feel like lost in the desert if I didn't do testing.
I am certain that you are bringing down a lot of neurotoxins - every kind - and where are they going to go if you do not help. Colonics.
Have you had pharma drug treatment for parasites before you started AI? Sometimes they won't budge unless you bring in some heavier amunition. I don't know where you started from and what you have done prior to AI.
It's an absolute given that you are dumping toxins - your flairup and mood vouch for that.
Consider going through this http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/AmyDerksenART3presentation.pdf which has a million reminders what you can use to help yourself. I have heard about this for years, but I still go back and run through everything if I get stuck someplace. Getting stuck in detox is very real, but you need to find some solutions to help you move on and start feeling better.
Cheer up - the hurdles are there to navigate around them. Doing it all the time in my house.
If you can't test yourself - please make an effort to find someone. Toronto is a huge place - and they are there. With testing you will be able to identify the hangup and do not need throwing darts in the dark.....
Any naturopathic clinic in today's world has someone who can do hands-on energetic testing without a machine.
Good luck to you, Zombie.
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Susie, Mail within Germany takes one day from one city to the next. Mail from Germany city to Seattle one way takes 2 weeks. Add in another two weeks and give HG a day or two, because they handle a lot of these every day, four weeks from your house and back to your house for the new bottle is normal. Sometimes if lucky, it is a quicker turnaround.
They do not have the staff to answer e-mails unless it is really an important matter. We need to understand this.
Hope you keep walking further and further!
Best to you.
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I had a quick question....I am on my break from AI after round 1 and had emailed HG asking what I can take in regards to supplements during my "waiting period" and he said "anything that makes you feel good". So I decided to take 1 core tablet. I have been holding off starting the KPU treatment that Dr. K had told me to start because many of you had pointed out that my body may not recognize some of the metals and other things until after a round or two. However, now I'm having pains in my wrist and kidneys....I'm assuming this is metal moving. I have now taken chlorella and microsilica as well as the rehydration cocktail (far enough apart I hope to not have the microsilica absorb the minerals), but was wondering if this is enough? I hate to have the metals mobilize and then lodge into my joints! Thanks.
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I always take my own unscented shampoo and styling products when I get my hair cut.
I suppose a high-end trendy salon would not like that, but all the stylists I've gone to have been more than willing to use what I've brought along.
Sometimes I also ask them to wrap a paper around my neck before they put the cape on me. I've been MCS'ed before from the residue of perfume or stinky oils from someone else's neck!
Take care, Nutmeg
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GettinHealthy, since you have access to Dr. K. and if not to him, to his assistants, ask them for support, especially if you are taking Core now. They know the protocol that you have received and should be able to readily help you with the right thing. Not knowing exactly what you are on, it is difficult, because any of the agents should fit your protocol. With AI, there is sometimes no big movement happening and sometimes it feels like being wiped out. The best is to learn to flow with it, supporting the organs as good as you can.
Is he giving you UNDA 243, one of his liver and kidney helpers? I use it whenever it tests for me.
Have you learned to test yourself? It really helps!
I doubt that you are moving metals at this early stage, but who knows. Just clearing out some of the accumulated toxins can be bothersome. Definitely support hurting kidney. Do castor oil packs.
Consider going through the Klinghardt/Derksen presentation I linked for Zombie. You have everything right there to select from. You should have seen us struggle some years ago when simply nothing was publicized - at least nothing that I would want to use. I used to spend hours searching and trying to remember with my damaged brain.
I always took a tape recorder to Dr. K. and I had the information then available during the weeks or months I could not see him. I listened to it day and night and it kept me going remembering why this and why that and the whole approach. I had a shoebox full of tapes by the time I conquered Lyme, etc.
Weak muscles in arms and legs is very normal for me some days during AI, especially in the early months. I would definitely address the kidney, if that is the problem, with what they recommend to add to your protocol.
Wish I could help, but don't know enough about you. I am sure and hope that the little ones have an easier time!
Take care.
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I asked AI to suggest a therapist in Berlin who could test me with ART during the treatment and they said I do not need one. But I have serious problems with detox - my recent lab tests show this - I am very highly toxic with mercury lead and arsenic.
So AI do not have enough staff to give adequate advice and support if we run into problems. They said if I have any more questions to ask GiGi.
This all sounds a bit too risky.
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this is the longest time in many years that i have not been fussing about what bug-killing protocol to be on and though i was nervous at first i can see now that detoxing is absolutely prime.
mati and zombie: i have been bit by bit figuring out how to take more binders and at the right time, anything new to my schedule can be so stressful, brain just can't handle info well and i forget. i do have a load of merc, lead and thallium.
it is valentine's day and what came to me this morning, after a rotten sleep, much exhaustion and pain and the joy and hope from yesterday's walk long gone, are the great words in an annoying old song. (this dates me!) 'love the one you're with'. i take that to mean me, my tired body, my often crazed and confused thinking, the years and years of it all, and also all the wonders and marvels of being me here in this body, the miracle of even being here on this planet, all of it is my life, my challenges, and i can love it all, embrace it all tenderly!
xoxox to you all susie
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Mati, If you read the AI website, they clearly state that for many people a doctor or ND is necessary. They even post the list practitioners who use AI in their practice. If you find one that understands AI and understands toxicity problems, you will be able to get the support you need. Since you are in Germany right now, it should be easy to find someone from that list.
I cannot do it by myself either - I get help from doctors and therapist who understand what is involved in chronic problems.
Please take a look at that list - on home page of AI.
Good luck.
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Hi all -- I am back from a wonderful three days in Philly/Hershey, PA. A wonderful time was had by all!
Gigi, Nano and Nutmeg -- thank you for your replies about the MCS/hair salon situation. I will carry my own products in from now on!
While I had a terrific time away, I am in a lot of pain all the time now. My neck/shoulders/joints/ribs all hurt and my spirits/thinking are no longer clear. My skin and nails and hair have become really dry with skin feeling sore too. Using any moisturizer just makes things worse and I turn very red.
LP, I remember you said your shoulders/neck were pretty sore for a while in the beginning too.
So what is this flare? Hmmm..... trying to be patient but I'm weepy and can't think of any practitioner who I'd turn to....
"Keep on swimming; keep on swimming."
Still waiting for my third round to arrive.
Best,
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Wise, what you experience is very normal when your body goes into detox mode. That is where you are now. Some of the most needed corrections have been made with bottle #1 and you now are noticing - what you look at as a negative - that some of the accumulation of toxic substances is ready to leave.
I can tell you for certain that if nothing is happening when you take the drops - or at least you start feeling tired and weepy or whatever - then things wouldn't be working. They are working in you right now!!!!! All you need to do now is support your organs with whatever you have learned to do. Skin dry - be sure you take some of the different oils - fish oil, flax oil, eve primrose oil - I have all of them and take whatever my biotensor suggests for me to take that day. It varies. One of them, my husband never wants (by tensor).
Drink broths, take liquidy foods to get a lot of liquid into you, but always with some food, make sure you get a good mineral mix.
If your skin is very reactive, make doubly sure that your organs - liver and kidney - are working. There are many herbal products that work great. The best one for my husband has always been Ayush Livit 2. I toss in some Unda 243, if tensor agrees. Drink teas. Beta Glucan always tests for my husband to help the good flora. I put it in Kefir, because he does not like fermented milks. With Beta Glucan and some good quality fruit syrup he loves it.
Support, support with all the good things that we have available.
Go http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/AutismProtocol09.pdf - through this website and pick out anything that rings a bell with you -. These protocols have been put together by the best doctors in the country and the mothers of autistics who form the Think Tank. Some of the parents involved are researchers/scientists who go to the end of the world to find the best to help their children.
Make use of this -- none of this info was ever so readily available when I went through my Lyme ordeal -- use what has been learned over the years. It is there for you to study and possibly finding a few items that will help you get through this detox phase and flushing out the remaining neurotoxins. It is these neurotoxins that make you feel ill - that you need to get a handle on.
Learn to use a biotensor! I go over my various trays of bottles and know very quickly what my body would like to have right now.
Emotional - weepy. Write down what you feel at that moment or day, read it some hours later, then throw it in the paper trash. You are unloading - thank God - . Don't worry much about it. Let it go. I could have built a bonfire with all the sheets of paper I filled. Be glad things are happening. We carry many unresolved little and bigger conflicts with us. It is a good thing to let them surface, and even ifyou just need to cry, let it happen and let go.
I have lived through war and bombings and persecution and Gestapo - I am sure it was one of the reasons I ended up with a mouthful of root canals that opened the door for Lyme and company.
Get some lymphatic drainage - I have described it many times - it is a treatment that you barely feel. Powerful massages are not the right thing to do. You need to gradually get rid of the toxins, slowly; that is the best way to protect your eliminating organs.
Moisterizers contain parabens and all sorts of things - chemicals that will show up in the future AI testing and will be corrected as you go along. Until then, don't use anything -- read the labels.
Starving for breakfast and need to get going. My husband is walking this morning without any medication. Praying desperately for more of the same for the rest of the day, tomorrow .......
Take care.
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Thanks Gigi,
for posting this site with the protocols for chronic illness and autism. And all the support products!
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Heading to WA tomorrow for DK conference, an appointment and some fun.
Been laid up with a concussion for a few days. Not sure if I will have my computer with me on trip - if you don't hear from me for awhile, I'll check in when I'm back.
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Have a great time...and share you knowledge!
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Nana -- a concussion?! Did you take a fall?
Have a good time with the conference and share all the pearls of wisdom.
In the meantime, take care of that head.
Are you alright?
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Mati, you may want to check this site. They have several practitioners in Berlin. It is possible that someone is familiar with AI. All of them I am sure are familiar with heavy metals and infections.
I ran into these doctors and company by accident over a year ago -- really because I always have my antenna out for things that I hope to work.
We are now using these micronized chlorella products since we are really in the detox phase of serious metal poisoning. It makes my life treating my husband much less difficult and I am excited to have found these. For us, it is either now or never! Father Time is moving on.
There is a lot of great information for anyone interested. I have known the doctor/researcher/designer of these products for many years and I love their gentleness.
Take care.
P.S. I bought the book a year ago, but so far it is only in German. It is the best and I hope it will be translated soon. I started to read it and while at it, I recognized some of the work and realized that I knew, not the writer, but the scientist and developer of this product as an American now living and brainstorming in Europe. Such a small world - this world of detox!
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Thanks wiser - yes, I fell and banged my head on the ice. I'm okay.
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Thanks GiGi it looks good. I have sent them a message to see what they suggest - this may be the way forward for me.
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Some people posted about eyebags, eye puffiness, eye drainage.
I've always said that my eyebags would be the last symptom to go, and when the eyebags are gone, i would be cured.
Well, after 5 1/2 years of treatment, i still have the eyebags.
Does this AI treatment finish the eyebags? It's hard for me to believe,; i've never had allergies , except rarely an allergic reaction to something in great excess.
I can't take chlorella i think--- it feeds my gut candida horribly.
I could never do self-testing, muscle -testing, i'm too clumsy or not agile.
I'm not getting big herxes from rifing, does that mean i don't need extra help detoxing?
Never mind, don't answer, i'm just thinking aloud.
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Pamois, you will find out if you try. Nobody can give you an answer to this. Chlorella does not feed candida. Heavy metals cause the body to produce a ton of it and abx accelerates it even more.
If you are referring to Biologo, micronized chlorella is a totally different substance and does not compare with any chlorella, especially chlorella that is not sound cracked. There are many different chlorellas.
It is best to read up on all these subjects. The information is widely available.
When I hear "I can't" - I think of that storybook my kids had of the 'little engine that could' - soooo long ago.
Take care.
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OK, this is a strange observance and I dont know if it is A1 relayted or not. My left eye feels like I have been inhaling Vick's vapor rub for about a week or so, it is a coolong sensation and a energizing sensation,it will happem on and off througout the day.I think it may be conneted becausee that is the eye that will water and hurt whem I take the drops. It has been about 2 weeks since I finished round 7 and I have not used anything new or differerent as in soaps or such.Has any one else expierenced this ?
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Detoxing through the eye is very common. Obviously something that you stored in that region when the body could not deal with it. Who knows if the odor is a memory connected to one or more chemicals in something you used. The body starts this detoxification with the first round, but of course more and more as you use more drops. It continues in between bottles and will continue a long time after you will be finished with the drops. The body is doing things it should have been doing all along, but didn't, and eventually the combined load was too much and we got ill.
It's sort of a nuisance and some is not comfortble, isn't it? But I am glad all this stuff is now leaving -- the sooner the better. Take care.
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Is anyone truly better due to this therapy now? I'm reading eagerly, but I'm not seeing much.
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seek, i am better chemical and metal wise. this is such a long process and doing ai opens a can of worms so to speak, so all the really bad stuff we have been exposed to surfaces and has to be dealt with. metal detox can take a long time.. i have really had a hard time with several exposures and i can tell i am better..but i have had to stay upon the detox steadily. hope this helps. runner
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I giess I did not explain this well, it's not a odor that I smell bot a cooling amd energizing feelimg coming from my left ete, such as just eating a altoid.
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Seek..I am much better...you will have to go back and see my monthly posts on what has improved.
But I am still detoxing and more is always being revealed.
Kisis: My eyes are very oozy in between this 9th round. I haven't had that particular sensation you describe but have had so many other odd eye things...that Im certain are detox related.
My new symptoms: (or old symptoms recurring)
I also am now experiencing hypothyroid symptoms.
I am not sure if this is AI..allowing my body to open those pathways. OR is this a reaction to pre-menopause and hormonal changes.
I just had blood work (waiting for results), and saw my ND who with ART has found my thyroid not producing adequate hormones. She put me on a low dose of iodine as my body tested well for it with the CORE minerals for KPU. She suggested blood work to check TSH T4 and T3 again. In past years of lyme treatment all has been normal there.
This was last week, and I have tested myself each day for the Iodine with the tensor...and find that I am only testing positive for it every other or every third day. So i have not taken it consistently. But feel confident with the tensor. I have heard conflicting things about iodine for the thyroid.
Also..I do not want to add too many things that will disrupt my regulation unnaturally while taking the AI. so I am going with my tensor.
Symptoms that grabbed my attention...major hair clumps falling out. waking each night at 1:30, (rather than 3:30 am), more weight gain and fluid in extremities for no reason, body temp dropped...very chilly now, loss of muscle, dry skin, brittle hair and nails, plus every other symptom of hypo thyroid to some degree.
Also when I tested myself..with the tensor...my thyroid was not producing adequate hormone...so that was enough for me to be alerted to seek my ND for confirmation and my regular GP for blood work.
I was going to wait to post this until I knew the results or felt more confident what this was. But decided to post today.
About 10 years ago I did have a goiter in my thyroid...that my GP found by accident. I was sent to a specialist who watched it and my symptoms for a year. My thyroid went from hyperthyorid to hypothyroid to normal in a three month period. Confirmed with bloodd work.
I remember the symptoms and feelings of each! I never was given any meds for this, than God...as the endocrinologist took a conservative approach with me. It resolved on its own. They called it an autoimmune reaction, thyroiditis, and said years later it could return as permanent hypothyroid. My blood work has been normal since it cleared.
So I kind of forgot about all this, but have been aware this could happen in time.
But I do know that all my strange symptoms from various illness etc, have returned while regulating on the drops....only to resolve!
So I am hoping this is the case with this. I have a strong feeling that the pathways are opening for my hypothalamus and pituitary to finally send the correct signals to the thyroid. We will see.
Could this whole mess been caused by those pesky environmental toxins, messing with my gut and absorption of the good food and nutrients my body actually needed and replaced with toxic waste?
I am so curious and excited to see what I am left to deal with after done with AI.
For some reason, I don't feel my thyroid is the root...I feel the root lies deeper, and the thyroid symptoms are only an indicator of deeper dysregulations...just my feelings. Especially as all my symptoms pre lyme have come and gone...over time...
You know I do still have lupus...an autoimmune condition...and I think I could be finally getting to the root of all these strange interwoven conditions. I would just like to kick them out of my "living home" forever!
so I don't want to mess anything up if this is the case...but will do the prudent thing when I get the information to make decisions about next steps.
I have been watching posts now on the thyroid, and the hpa axis...(hypothalamus, Pituitary, Adremal, Thyroid) lots of people on lymenet have issues with this. But only focused on the thyroid organ...not the root. I am learning.
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hi everyone. i have been having painful heart palps and shortness of breath. they get really overwhelming starting around 11 am, makes resting so hard, they are still so strong now at 1:30 and i can barely be verticle, they weaken my whoe body. i've had them for years, but they got so much worse this fall though in the past month they weren't as regular or exhasuting. the past four days have been so intense, lightening up only around 9 pm.
any ideas? i'm doing a home-made hydration cocktail, mag, some minerals. pectin or clay or another binder most nights.
local pcp has me on a monitor starting today for 14 days but i doubt that will tell anything.
i thought it miht be thyroid meds, 75 mg of compounded natural. took less today and willdo the same tomorrw.
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Just got my 10th bottle of drops in the mail. The analysis says they found 9 chemical substances, 4 biological substances, and 11 energetic blockades this time. Where will it end?!? LOL!
Guessing that I probably have a lot more in me because I have been sick for a long time (30+ yrs) and have carried a lot of extra weight for most of my life. I've made some diet changes and am losing some of that now, so probably extra toxins are being released from the fat cells.
Thankful to be rid of all that has gone before!
Question about starting this next round of drops I just received...
I have a pretty bad cold/bronchitis this week. How long should I wait before starting the new drops?
I don't want to waste too much time getting started, but...the drops almost always kick in nose and throat symptoms, so I'm not anxious to add any additional challenges at the moment.
Thanks and good luck to everyone. Nutmeg
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i have a question, too. i received my second round of drops with the inserted 2 page analysis. do we receive another computer report with more specifics?
nutmeg mentioned the analysis finding 9 chem substances, 4 bio substances... my insert with 2nd round drops said, "your body has begun to regulate itself, many incorrect patterns have been corrected...still a few disruptions your body is in the middle of its regulation phase..."
i guess i assumed i'd get something more specific via email. there were no specifics in the insert. please advise.
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The second round's insert for me reads:
"Our analysis reveals the following incorrect information: ____chemical substances ____energetic blockages
Later on rounds 5 & 6 only, it added a third item __biological substances.
NOw im back to only chemical and energetic blocks
Check again to see if it is there near the bottom of the first of the two page inserts....otherwise you may want to ask them...or maybe they have a new format.
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Nutmet, it is very possible that this cold that you feel is the reaction of the drops. I had this for two weeks, caughed up a lot of things, etc. and it definitely was not a cold but a clearance for two weeks. Then it stopped for a few days, and more followed. A lot of the chemicals affect us this way. My son has the same ongoing. So make sure that you do not stop drops for the wrong reasons. Maybe take less 3x a day, but still send the "reminder" to the System.
Just a thought.
The analysis changes from one test to the next text. Sometimes there are biological blockages and sometimes there are none. That does not mean they forgot. It must means at whatever layer they tested, only certain things showed. That may be totally different the next. I have seen a category in round 10 that I had never seen before. It really doesn't matter what they are, except that they are errors in the system - not referring to specific chemicals or specific substances. They are only testing patterns and frequencies.
Aliyalex, if they didn't give you any numbers, I would write or call them to check. Remember if doing other treatments, the body may not reveal anything. It happened to a few people who were doing abx, etc. They had to wait a few months and test again later. But maybe it's just an error and someone forgot to enter the numbers.
Take care.
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ok...just got my results left on my phone...they are mailing them to me. But the mesage said they are out of range and are running some deeper tests with my blood...I did not get any details...so this is driving me crazy.
But I don't have any reference ranges...they were done at labcorp...can anyone help me understand these?
THS: 1.99 T4: 8.2 T3: 108
and an out of range ANA (they left no numbers on the phone.)
If anyone understands the numbers...please chime in!
The unknowns of the Lupus has always been my scary problem. In the past specialists wanted to put me on meds...and I refused as I did not like the side effects...just thought I would live with the lupus diagnosis and try to heal naturally...
I am certain my GP will recommend me to see another lupus specialist...and all they offer is drugs! I could use some support!
Thanks,lp
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quote:Originally posted by GiGi: Nutmet, it is very possible that this cold that you feel is the reaction of the drops. I had this for two weeks, caughed up a lot of things, etc. and it definitely was not a cold but a clearance for two weeks. Then it stopped for a few days, and more followed. A lot of the chemicals affect us this way. My son has the same ongoing. So make sure that you do not stop drops for the wrong reasons. Maybe take less 3x a day, but still send the "reminder" to the System.
Hi GiGi,
Well, I haven't started the new drops yet, so it's been 3 weeks since I took my last round. The current cold/bronchitis symptoms started 2+ weeks after I finished them.
I don't discount that this could be from the AI drops. I have had many clearings during and between previous rounds, but nothing this severe and prolonged...6 days now.
I have my normal mucous-producing chronic cough (about 12 years now), then during or between rounds I often get a sore throat or tonsils, tonsil stones, backed-up lymph in the neck, extra congestion, stuff like that.
This seems like a full-blown head and chest cold to me, with more severe & productive cough, nasal and sinus congestion, sneezing, feeling fuzz-headed, slight fever one night. It started by me feeling more fatigued for a couple of days, then I developed a dry cough, then full-blown symptoms.
So, I'm still thinking I should wait until the cold/bronchitis is gone before I start the new drops. Or do you think I should start them sooner?
Just trying to avoid adding more symptoms, since I've been homebound, feeling rotten, for 4 days now.
Thank you! Nutmeg
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I'm trying to sign up online. Is there something wrong with the website? There is an orange bar on the left hand side obscuring the text. Anyone else have difficulty? What's the best way to order a kit?
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Gigi -- Oh my goodness, my thank you post never showed up on page 24 for your helpful response!
Thank you! Thank you! I AM definitely detoxing something large and unpleasant. LOL. I've been out-of-it and in pain, but it has lessened today for the first time in about three weeks. Perhaps the Epsom Salt/Baking Soda bath I took last night helped.
I'm going to start taking Fish Oils, Black Current Seed Oil, Flax and Magnesium again. I've been off of everything except AI and I feel that I need to add those back into my diet.
My weight is creeping up again, something I cannot afford since I've gained 60 lbs. over the last 4 years. Why am I suddenly so hungry all the time?! No food makes me feel full.
My BioPure Electrolytes arrived in the mail today. So maybe the Rehydration Cocktail will help with the constant hunger. I also find that walking outside and moving helps me ignor the pain that sitting and lying down brings. Time for walks!
I'm glad that your husband is doing well and that you continue to feel great. Three Cheers!
Best,
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