IIt's as if the Lyme woke up and I have all my old symptoms back for the last week or so. Nausea, weakness, headaches, fatigue, weepiness, confusion.... I have too many Lyme scripts in my head to not be concerned, but enough desire to keep trying a new direction.
That said, no real arthritis symptoms!
I'm sticking with AI for as long as I can bear it. Hoping for a change and trying to stay patient as I go "through it not around it..."
Thanks for the supportive words,
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I'm sending off my latest saliva sample today after finishing my 8th (I think) round of drops.
I decided to include a separate sample of the stuff I cough up from my lungs. I have had chronic cough/bronchitis for quite a few years, but it got worse a month ago after I caught a cold. Still have the productive cough.
I was hoping they could determine if there is infection, and whether it's bacterial, viral, or fungal.
Not sure exactly how they prepare the drops, but I'm hoping they could include some factors to help me get rid of this cough which makes my life kinda miserable.
Anyway, does this sound like a good idea--sending the sputum/mucous along with the saliva sample, but in a separate foil packet?
I included a note about the sputum/mucous sample on the symptom write-up that I'm sending in the envelope.
Thanks! Nutmeg
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The body forms mucus, etc. in order to protect itself. It has to be gotten rid of from time to time. That is the reason we are "dripping" when we have colds and flu. Maybe googling "why does the body form mucus and sputum" will explain it better than I can. My guess is that you are now able to release mucus that has been sitting in your chest/lungs/wherever for a long time due to the dysregulation i.e. allergies.
Maybe help getting it out by "head over steam bowl" and towel over head; and do a neti pot to start clearing, often. Use anything that loosens mucus. Hot potato mashed wrapped in towel on chest for an hour at bedtime. If you have had the allergies for years, it will take quite some time to get it out. All the energetic information is in your saliva sample.
Poultice for Congestion: 2T cayenne pepper (at least 100,000 HU) 4T ground cinnamon, 6 T ground ginger. Olive oil. Combine in bowl and mix well. add a little olive oil to form a paste. Spread paste over a warm flannel cloth. Spread some olive oil on chest and apply the flannel cloth poultice.
I think what has been collecting over the many years of a dysfunctional immune system is now starting to come out.
I made a tincture of 160,000 HU Cayenne pepper and it is always on the ready. I would highly recommend getting a copy of the old "Healing Powers of Peppers". I think, OF COURSE, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, it is out of print, but Amazon still sells used copies. A few months ago my husband passed out - thought heart attack with eyes rolling up - one drop squezed into his mouth brought him back instantly. All my older friends in Europe take several drops of Cayenne tincture every day - keeps the blood flowing, beats bicillin I am sure, and cleans the veins and arteries.
I also add a few drops in veggie capsules and take it myself daily.
Nutmeg, I am sure you are "cleaning house" -- really the effect of the PSP, without a doubt. What went in or stayed in, must come back out.
If you know that you are heavy metal toxic and start to release some of them now, it is a good idea to pay attention to helping them out if the body start to release them. We started at around bottle #9, when many corrections have been made and many of the chemicals are out of the way too. It all depends how much of a problem the metals are for you.
I asked HG, when I kept testing and finding the metals with the tensor. I knew his "tea" suggestion wouldn't take care of it, and he answered to do whatever tests well to help the detox. If your immune system starts to take over again after so many AI bottles, I think that is where we have to help.
Got to run --
take care.
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GiGI, any advantages of using a 1,000,000+ HU pepper mix as opposed to 100,000? Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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Seek, try it, you might like it!
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i am still having major issues around fatigue. and brain fog..my thinking almost feel stalled at times..i have taken several metal binders.. anyone else going through this? i think i must be backed up to some degree. Runner
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Runner, you may want to test yourself with tensor or have your friend do it -- whether you are a candidate for KPU = more zinc and the ingredients that have to go along with it.
Also read some of the information on this website www.hputest.nl You may get a better understanding of KPU/HPU or do the urine collection test. I didn't do the test, but my hairtest came back with only one weak mineral - zinc. The rest were all fine. Dr. K. suggested I take two of the CORE. My husband is taking 3 CORE as of right now. We test. If my tensor says no, I skip it for the day.
You may also know that if you are detoxing heavy metals, the brain sometimes feel garbled. I know when I am dropping a lot, I feel that way a day or two, and then things go back to normal and fine.
THE ONLY WAY OUT IS THE WAY THROUGH.
Metals don't leave without creating a bit of a ruckus.
You should probably have the microsilica which is especially directed at the gut/nerves/metals. There are more nerve endings in that area than anywhere else and the metals hang onto them.
Can't you find someone near you to get tested, with all the above in mind. In other words, only a person that understands KPU also.
I have mentioned mineral status so many times - I feel like I am repeating myself. Have you done a test lately to check them. If I remember, you said you would be doing the hairtest and that will answer a big question. Without the right minerals - especially heavy metal detox is hampered.
Go to the healthfood store and test yourself on zinc picolinate or gluconate, b6/P5P, biotin, chromium, manganese, and molybdenum. I think those are the ones in CORE. Don't have it in front of me right now. Put them all together and tensor!
If you get a little further along with AI, things will be easier to interpret. Hang in there, friend! Or come up here and get tested by someone who is always available and can follow your clearing-the-road.
Wishing all a fun weekend!
Take care.
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Runner, you asked
gigi, what products will you use to remineralize and build the mineral base up with your husband? runner
We had been using Biotic Multi Mins, but apparently J. is not absorbing them well, probably still due to leaky gut. Can take 1-2 years to heal, I was told.
We are now using a liquid mineral for which he tests very well. 2 oz per day of Matrix Minerals (Biopureus).
Take care.
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GiGi, this is a bit off topic i know, but how do you make a cayenne tincture? and what is it useful for, other than blood circulation? thanks.
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Hi Gigi, Thanks for all the information. The part i have been most frustrated with is I am testing..and today i wasnt getting much help..untill i took edta. which helped for a while..andsupporting the kidneys. youare right on the money. The metals are in my gut and nerve..i think this is part of the reason i experience the gut issues. I think AI is kicking it loose and its trying to come through. My brain does feel garbled..
I am doing the hair test this week, and maybe kpu down the road. Thank you for the mineral sources..I am taking electrolyte stamina and extra C, zinc, B6..
will test it out this weekend. bed time for now. thanksagain, Runner
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heiwalove, if you google Cayenne Pepper Health Benefits, you will be reading all day.
I get the ground powerful capsicum (160,000 HU) at 1st Chinese Herbals, ask for small quantity, put it in a cup of vodka, grain alcohol is better, let it sit on windowsill turning up and down once a day. Done in a couple of weeks. Strain through coffee filter type. Use with dropper bottle.
I put a few drops in broth (daily), and fill veggie caps with dropper bottle couple times a day to swallow like any capsule.
I use it as a poultice also on my once dislocated ellbow.....to get the blood circulation going again. I tore ligaments and tendons.... and I am sitting here typing with both arms!
Take care.
Our house will never be without this remedy. Be careful washing hands when using it - you don't want to get it into your eyes. If so, rinse with water.
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Hi, does it matter with the hair test if i colored my hair?
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Runner, when you fill in the request form for the hairtest, they ask if hair is treated. Tell them exactly what you used -- type and brand name.
Be sure you send them only a bit of the NEWEST growth cut close to scalp, possibly from different areas on the head. They also ask you for the date you cut it.
I am really curious what you will show. So please let us know. I hope you will use Drs. Data -- not sure if the others (Smoky, etc.) show the good minerals also, and that is a very important feature of the test.
I wish everyone could see the difference in two tests - my husband's and mine - how the toxic metals show up if the good minerals are adequate and balanced; and what the test looks like = not good; if the good minerals are inadequate.
It is so important to make certain that you get minerals that are absorbed by your body.
Take care.
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I'm looking forward to getting started on this. I finally got my sample mailed on Friday. I paid for test and treatment.
I'm sorry if this has already asked but I can't wade through this to look. Had another episode yesterday with the leg not working. Right now all my sx are neuro and very scary.
Soooo, do any of you still rife or do other herbal treatment, salt/C, etc. or do this alone? I know no abx. I've been reading some good things about teasel root and GSE but didn't know if I could do it along with this or if it's best to just do AI.
Please forgive me for asking these questions as I'm sure they have already been asked. I want to do whatever will work the best. I really want to give this my best shot.
I appreciate all the help here.
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Hi Sapphire, the general advice seems to be to avoid antimicrobial treatments [and therefore all those you mention] and simplify any supplement regime.
I'm sure nobody minds the questions: it's a very long thread to wade through, after all! Keep asking!
I wish you all the best for your treatment when the drops arrive,
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well, i was in a very bad way before i found lymnet again. post divorce, post learning-to-live-alone trauma, i'll spare you the lurid details. i was weakening fast, spitting up a recurrence of primal birth trauma. clearing my field for more life force to be available, and i got on a big anti-microbial protocol to get a handle on the downward physical spin. then i found this thread.
i talked to Dr G, colleague and contact person of Dr K while he is flying all around the world or in the seattle ofc where he is even less accessible when he is deluged. the best we worked out for me is to not stop the antimicrobials and do AI. this as the final word from CMC.
all herbals, i started the drops 2 days ago. i know it isn't ideal, but it is the best i can do in the moment. i find myself with the increased tiredness, different from the horrendous fatigue i previously felt. My dreams are more lucid, the queen of England was helping me with my protocol last night. i can use all the help i can get.
it seems to me the largest part of the healing process that i have observed, is the quality of empowerment people experience in their healing. and often it against adversity. we seem to have to study everything, design/intuit what is right for us, implement it and perfect or imperfect as it might be, there it is. in my personal experience, it gets thrown to the Universe for Divine help, i could call it surrender. it has been an acquired ability thru much kicking and screaming. not a pretty sight.
nevertheless, imperfect as it is, this is the beginning of my AI experience. aliyah
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Aliyalex, you may want to contact AI describing and asking them about taking antimicrobials on the side. We were strongly advised against taking anything that may confuse the system more. The drops are powerful and better safe than sorry.
Good luck to you.
Just noticed Sapphire's question: My answer is basically the same as Carry's.
The drops are very powerful and the body will be busy, busy working.
Make certain you read the English brochure "Information to clients". AI will send it to you. It is also on this thread.
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Ok! Thanks again!
My test is from doctors data.
Had my hair colored about 4 weeks ago.. i only have a small amount of new growth.
For my mineral base i am using the electrolye stamina packets, and extra zinc, and B6 and sometmes a multi. i also take airbornes..
i will be searching for something better.. the multi mins are good..
I have numbness in my left leg..i think i am going to try the capsicum compresses to see if i can get circulation back through there..have tried prolotherapy with some sucess but not relief. thanks for all the information and hope!
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On the packet from doctors data it says hair that has been dyed is subject to elemental contamination , and it is recommended this hair is not to be used for testing..any thoughts?
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I have used henna for a long time. Told them exactly which brand. But I sent only 1/2 inch long clippings from the new growth. Don't worry about it. If you want to know what your recent treatment has accomplished, i.e. AI, or the DMPS that you took, this will be the most realistic answer.
A good way to do hairtest is to use metal detox protocol, whichever you choose, for about 6 weeks and then send in that new growth. Then you know for sure that your detox protocol is starting to be effective. That also confirms to the people who have never had a positive test that metal toxicity is a factor for them, since blood tests or urine challenge tests really do not tell much.
If you find it in your hair after an effective protocol, you know it's in the body. If you don't find any in the hair, but have done nothing to push it out via a metal protocol for a few weeks, it does not mean that none is in the body. The body simply is not releasing it, but keeps hanging on to it. As long as a person is symptomatic, whatever symptoms, the chances of toxic metals residing in the body are there.
Take care. Hurry - got to get my dinner to the table!
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Hey Gigi, ok. i think that might be a good idea, to do a metal protocol . I have dmps..so i could take that , one pill a week for 6 weeks.. is there any place I can look for a metal protocol? I KNOW mercury is my nemesis..it always has been. I have to take my lead or mercury binder or i will not sleep. but i want the hair test just to see. i did a recent urine test as well..but i know its not always accurate. but i am hoping with ai, maybe i am excreting more. I also get red hot hands..inflammed and when i take alginate it seems to get better. I need to find something else besides the alginate as well to have on board...and chlorella is hard the gi tract. thanks again, Runner
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well, i received a response from HG. he told me that it was "fine" to be taking artemesinin, iodoral, interfase (andrographis), VD3, selenium, with his drops.
i am glad that i checked it out. thanks y'all.
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Thank you so much, Gigi, for the link to Amy Derkson's latest presentation: it makes a very interesting and useful reference document.
On the K2 page, did she mean to ramp up to 1mg per 10 lb bodyweight ONCE or TWICE a day, do you think? I was not clear about it.
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Thanks GiGi. Everytime I see these presentations, I wish Dr. K was my doc!
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Great Gigi, thank you! Runner
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I'll be away at my brother's house for a few days over Christmas and may not have a chance to post tomorrow.......
.....SO I'd like to wish everyone on this thread a very Happy Christmas, as happy as illness allows anyway, and all Best Wishes for better health in 2010.
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Hi Gigi and all.. I called doctors data. i explained i put color on my hair 4 weeks ago.. and she said that is way too soon. they need at least 8 weeks. the goal is a new growth of one inche of virgin hair. she advised me to use pubic hair. so that is what i am going to do. i am sending it in today. i will post the results! am doing a bit better today. am having a really hard time adjusting on my armour and i think its part of my deep fatigue adn even my digestion...not the whole 9 yards..but could be part of it. Thank you all, Runner
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Gigi, I just got in from the dentist and he did ART testing...came back 1400 for mercury... you saved my behind before by getting me off the NAC... I need guidance here but don't want to use the thread...may I contact you via email? Thank you.
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What is 1400? ART does not give a score for mercury in that manner.
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Scott, some of the European trained therapists measure quantity. ART has evolved like the critters that have invaded us. And some testing feature may have found its way to the US. No telling. Maybe Cooper can give more detail. In the early days when I first was ART tested it was done this way in Germany. At least Cooper's warning flag is up and that's the main thing.
Aliyalex, We experienced "being tired" (not fatigue) through the early bottles and then all calmed down, more or less. A minor reaction was always present, but nothing that would flatten me out.
If you are taking antimicrobials as you indicated (or do other killing methods) you would, there is no telling what happens. HG told me many times that he cannot insist people not doing or taking what they want to do. The instructions to clients (booklet) are pretty clear. I don't think CMC is familiar with the finer details. Not even Dr. K. has had the time. All he knows at this point is that AI is effective from different results of patients that went on AI on their own. This has become very clear to me once I understood that we can have a dysregulation with anything, a biological substance = a plant, a flower, anything perfectly normal to healthy people. Many substances are processed with other substances, some that may cause a negative reaction. We and I myself did not do any killer meds or homepathics in order not to confuse the system while trying to bring order into the chaos with AI. The emotional clearances are heavily involved and the fear of Lyme that we all experienced somewhere along the lines will re-manifest itself again in the DNA, as fear. HG said several times "don't add anything we are trying to clear". As Dr. K. finds, most people are allergic to half the bottles they come in with - often they go home able to use a third of what the brought.
Everybody do their own thing to their own comfort level.
My husband could have started KPU months ago - before all the dysregulations were cleared. Glad we didn't, because KPU is causing him now no symptoms of any kind. We know things are moving because we test for heavy metals literally every day, with few exceptions when some chemicals, etc. show up when testing. Even a show of pathogens test, only to not test again a couple days later. I hear a lot of negatives from many that do KPU while they are allergic to major foods and metals. I am convinced that 's why they suffer.
When I had my accident totally dislocationg my ellbow joint, I had a flare of Babesia, and found heavy lead all along that arm. It has now calmed down, but lead is still on the move from the long bones (lead usually deposits in the long bones of the body).
My philosophy is not to overburden the body with other therapies on the side. It usually backfires as is evident from people who have done it. I do want to get through this with all organs in the best shape possible, because without any of them, life changes alltogether.
Everone should do what they think suits them best.
I couldn't be happier with the AI results. I have never been able to produce an outflow of heavy metals as is happening now, after AI. I consider environmental toxins and dental toxins the major cause for multiple infections to take hold, i.e. Lyme. And that's all I have heard Dr. K. preaching over the last eleven years.
Take care.
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Yes, Gigi, i understand completely what you are saying and i follow you all the way. I know now through testing I am also releasing metals every single day and especially at nite. it is mercury and lead. I am also testing for erlichia , which i know is a very very old infection (i think anyway, i do not remember getting bit recently) I am also testing for babesia.. I am just keeping up the detox. I do add alot of herbs, thyme and parsley and rosemary to my salads and veggies and soups. i get in plenty of garlic and onion. i take dmps orally on occasion, but mostly binding agents. I have included a multi bc i feel i need some b vitamin complex and ..and i am also taking extra zinc, and probiotics.
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I just received results/remedy #7 in the mail today. This round shows 10 chemicals, 5 biological substances and 7 energetic blockades.
I had to re-send sample #7. Last time I sent, I was taking a 10-day course of antibiotics (for pneumonia, not Lyme) and that sample revealed NO dysregulations.
Six weeks after finishing abx, my sample shows 22 dysregulations.
I believe this really shows that abx and AI are totally incompatible therapies... Abx blocks the body's immune system and AI cannot find anything to correct.
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Hi Zombie, how are you doing overall? Did Progurt provide any lasting benefits? Has AI provided you with new steps forward? Hope you are doing well.
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Hi Scott! I don't know really know how to answer that!
I still eat Progurt every day (in my breakfast smoothie) but I can't really tell if it is benefiting me much, to be honest.
Many things are better since I started AI but my severe neurological issues are not.
I am very weak still but have seen many other improvements with gut issues, asthma, pollen/dander/mold allergies, MCS, etc.
I suffered all my life from hayfever and chronically runny nose but that and my asthma all seemed to stop after round #5.
I also notice that I no longer feel sick around chemical smells or perfumes anymore, which is a big relief.
One of my care workers' perfume scent used to really bother me but not anymore.
Gut issues have slowly been resolving ever since beginning round #1. My biggest gut symptom (constipation) is MUCH improved.
I still react to some foods, but not like before. They say the gut can take 1-2 yrs to heal and I am only 6 months in...
There has been spiritual/emotional healing along the way. It's much harder to quantify but definitely happening, especially at night during my dreams.
I have no idea if AI will eventually resolve my neurological issues or not. As far as I know, I am the only ALS person ever to try it. Only time will tell.
How about you, Scott? How was your 8th round of AI?
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Great news on round 5. That is fantastic.
Have you looked into Lithium treatment as well around the ALS? Dr. K is using that some now for neuro-protection and stopping advancing of neurological diseases.
I am so glad to hear that you are heading the right direction. Very happy!
I am doing well overall. Still very toxic and working on that. I think KPU made me more toxic and have some work to do there, but I feel like I have a lot of good options and am still moving forward.
Round 9 or 10 of AI should be here soon. Can't keep track of them all now
Best
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I can understand if you take abx for a certain acute situation. I agree, Zombie.
Merry Christmas to all!
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Zombie, from what I have learned via Dr. K., you may also be a KPU candidate somewhere along the line, especially once you have more of the dysregulations corrected via AI.
I do not know how far AI will go or how long it would take to restore the zinc deficits/metabolism if you fall into that 80% Lyme people category who have that KPU/HPU problem. My husband certainly is showing good signs of the added KPU protocol, and as I posted before, it is vitally important not only to pay attention to a handful of minerals (zinc, etc.), but to all of them.
Detoxification will not take place when the good minerals are not present to grab the bad stuff. As per Dr. K. , the toxic metals step in and grab the neurotoxins; but if the road out is blocked because of dysregulations/allergies, who knows where they stay and hang out? They are definitely not leaving and we remain in the grey area - not sick and not well.
Dr. K. told me that all his ALS, Parkinsonism, MS, etc. neuro patients suffer from KPU.
Dr.K. explains - guessing we have about 1500 metabolic enzymes. It is not known for certain. About 300 of these enzymes are known to be zinc dependent. Many of the detox enzymes are zinc dependent. I think many of us have a problem on the AI test in the Enzyme section. Don't have it in front of me. You may want to check your test.
Parasites are at the core of what makes Lyme patients sick. KPU leads to uncontained growth of worms and parasites when zinc is absent.
Zinc, Iron, Copper are needed for killing bugs.
People who don't do well with sulfur/sulfhydril foods and supplements lack enzyme producing hcl = mostly due to KPU/lack of zinc, etc.
If you want to try the natural way, get clean oysters (British Columbia) - they hold all the trace minerals /zinc etc. of the KPU protocol except a little short of B6.
In other words, KPU messes everything up.
More later - now I prepare the German potato salad I am supposed to bring for Christmas Eve Celebration with our little Family and the Chocolate Mousse. The kids do the Wiener Schnitzel, the salads! And then we will sing.
Take care.
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Thanks Scott and GiGi. I just wanted to put my experience out there.
So many have asked if they can do abx and AI at the same time but I think what happened to me shows that you definitely can't. There's simply no point because abx blocks AI analysis.
Thanks also to GiGi for your input about KPU. I have been following all the KPU threads on here with great interest. I checked my 1st AI analysis and I do have the enzyme dysfunction.
I definitely think I will do the protocol but not sure when to begin.
I discussed KPU with my Alternative MD last summer and he suggested I start right away but I was nervous and wanted to get further into AI first. I sorely wish I could find someone who knows ART nearby. Perhaps after several more rounds of AI, I will feel okay to begin.
MERRY CHRISTMAS/HANUKKAH/KWANZAA/YULE/FESTIVUS TO ALL! And a special FROHE WEIHNACHTEN to you dear GiGi!
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It seems that antibiotics and AI are not compatible, but I am not convinced that you cannot take plant-based, God-given antimicrobial herbs. That should be reasonable I think.
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Scott, antimicrobial herbs I am sure would not cause as much of a problem. However, I still insist that killing, which is the intention of antimicrobials, will make the AI therapy that much more difficult, because you are already throwing chemicals and heavy metals into the body which they body is not well prepared to deal with. I don't think you gain much, because if - if - if - if there is anything left to treat, it is a lot easier than when you are still kicking all the environmental toxins into the system that it is still not yet fully prepared to deal with it.
Just the same, I find my toxin release now after a solid AI treatment much easier to deal with than the crashes I have been hearing about, even with the warnung from DK that it is so when doing KP before completing or at least covering a wide range of the dysregulations via AI. As you will recall, he really warns that the crashes are to be expected with KPU. I have yet to crash and so does my husband.
I made similar mistakes by committing to Biophotons/Bionic/Germany and caused my husband a huge setback, from which he is still trying to recover. Hope to heaven the damage is not permanent. I am not sure that this would have been the case had we done the AI treatment prior to any further killing. He was doing super and was walking --- before Biophotons/Bionic and I should have known that that treatment is totally out of place because it chases not only borrelia, but every critter that had ever invaded us plus all the toxic heavy metals, chemicals, the fungi, molds, which our body was not able to clear before AI. That is what biophotons do.
I am not about to encourage anyone to make similar mistakes. HG has a reason why he is saying what he does. I am getting the heavy metals out without any major crashing. I know my body is working overtime, but it is something I can live with very well. This metal outflow is happening without KPU!!! Upon DK urging I added 2 CORE just to cover for higher zinc. But my hair test was done prior to adding any KPU.
Certainly you can take antimicrobials. But do you think you reach your goal more quickly by adding in another stress factor. As DK says, once the environmental stuff (toxic metals mainly) are out, the rest is easy. He doesn't know yet how easy, because he is only on his first bottle of AI and doesn't realize how much more there is to come that needs clearing.
Zombie, I am convinced that you are better off to wait until you have covered the majority of the chemical allergies also. And as I said, I am not sure how much, if any, KPU one will need when AI is complete. Maybe I am an exception, because I did not have the wheat and leaky gut problems, which is the villain in messing up our absorption and causing the mineral deficits hindering the detox -- all pathways.
I have learned over the last two years after our Bionic fiasco to always use common sense. I am not paying that much attention to people who have done biophotons, but I have not heard of a single one that has truly reached the top and stays there. It's good to think things through.
Take care.
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Finally received the lost drops a few days ago for daughter and myself. I am on check up 8 and she 7. We both are doing great and experiencing positive regulations as each month goes by. Specifically noticed as we waited almost two months in between rounds, non intentionally. But did notice positive things while waiting.
We both urine test very positive to needing the KPU therapy, but are waiting until our regulation is complete with AI to begin it. We both did have major leaky gut which we believe is healed, or at least we have experienced regulation in that area. No more constipation after round 3 for both. No allergies or gluten intolerance now.
I only have 4 chemical and 2 energetic blocks in this round uncovered. She still has many.
My emotions feel very balanced, so much so that my husband commented to both my kids on Christmas that the drops have made their mom a nicer person to be around! HE is now reminding them not to miss doeses while home! My anxiety is gone and depression is gone. I feel normal. My daughter expresses the same feelings.
Especially during the holiday crunch as I host so many family gatherings,(60 for formal christmas dinner..even when I had full blown lyme) I usually get very stressed and am sharp with my family...I did not feel that way or react badly at all...I am shocked how I am able to cope peacefully with things and enjoy each day. NO fibromyalgia pains in my upper back /neck area as usual! This may seem small to those reading this...but this is very big and has impacted my life over the years negatively..now I experience the positive change!
The last regulation of normal labido is still present...this is amazing and I hope it lasts....that is what I am sure my husbands comments came from to my kids...anyway, he is a believer!
Once I started this round, I had severe heartburn feelings, some nausea for two days, then I had a rash appear on my left calf. The rash is where I had a similar itchy rash from age 18-40 when in the sun. Haven't seen this in years. Came for no reason, so I think the drops brought this symptom out for three days. The heartburn as well I have had way in my past. Heartburn is not a normal thing for me. So also I believe this was brought on by the drops regulating something. It is gone now as I am still taking this round.
Way in the past I was given nexium for the heartburn which I took for six months...(was told I would be on it my whole life) and the rash I was given cortosteroid cream. I took nothing for these severe symptoms earlier this week..just waited for them to resolve and they did.
I had a yearly physical by my old GP a few weeks ago just to get blood drawn etc for comparison sake as I go through A.I.
I asked for a urine culture, as a month back, you may recall I thought I had symptoms of a urinary tract infection. Just wanted to see if I was doing better. They found very high E-Coli bacteria. He said normally he would put his patients on an antibiotic immediately for those levels. But said he knew I would want to try natural things..so he suggested I try what my ND would prescribe, but in the meantime make an appointment with a urologist, and get retested in a month to make sure it is not harming my kidney.
Just had my retest and am waiting to see results. Initial office test says no sign of E-Coli...but MD will call me with complete lab results soon.
She is intrigued with my natural protocols. Tensor has me taking Black Walnut Tincture,Golden rod, Garlic Tincture, Chlorella, in varous changing intervals and amounts, along with Cranberry juice, lemon water, apple pectin, and other binders. As soon as I started this protocol my pain went away. Tensor says I am releasing loads of bacteria. This happened while waiting for my drops to arrive between rounds over the past two months.
So things are moving!
I am also this week picking up the lymph fluid I lost while waiting for my drops to arrive. I do think for some with KPU, the fluid problem may get bad at times while doing the therapy. This is all to be seen when I stop AI when they say the regulatin is done. My jeans are tight again and I can actually feel the fluid move in my body tissue.
I will retest for KPU again at the end of AI therapy and see if I still need it, or if it is much better after AI therapy. Right now my tenser says no to Zinc or any of the full KPU supplements I have in house. Things are working without taking KPU therapy at this time. Although it could help me move along faster at some point as others suggest as a possibliity. I just feel good waiting it out for now as I see progress.
blessing to all, lp
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I have been lurking for a long time relunctant to post, but I wanted to ask several questions.
Did I see that Selma was in remission with biophotons? And did I read that sixgoofykids was also doing well with the photon machine?
Has anyone here completed the full course of AI and know that it has long lasting effects? I read about the positives, but no one seems to have finished the full number of rounds (seems like a lot of rounds!)
Also, Hiker asked if anyone doing AI worked fulltime out of the house? I have that same question as many who post here seem to say it can be rough and I also work fulltime.
Thanks for answering my questions.
Lee
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Hi Lee. Ai works as an ongoing basis..if you read gigis posts she goes into detail on the foundation and basis of the therapy. I think if you can work now, you most likely will still be able to. The therapy is slow, but changing. Binders are important. It is very very difficult to rid the allergies, and according to those who have been doing the therapy the longest and have had a dance with allergy removal know it is so hard, and the tehrapy has helped in many regards. No one on the board yet has completed the full round. hope this helps. runner
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i would love to hear your thoughts about what just happened in the last 24 hs.
Background is that i have been on herbal anti-microbials for 7 weeks, AI for 8 days. i know, it is not ideal but this is how it is right now.
yesterday i got very congested with a very sore throat for about 12 hours. i thought it would be a 2 week flu. it left as fast as it came with a residual headache and semi-feverish feeling.
has anyone ever experienced this reaction to AI? i seem to remember reading about something similar, but cant find it again. thanks for your thoughts.
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aliyalex - I have experienced similar things but I was not taking anti-microbials. Stuffed sinuses for a couple of days, then gone - things like that. ******* Lee asks- "Has anyone here completed the full course of AI and know that it has long lasting effects? I read about the positives, but no one seems to have finished the full number of rounds (seems like a lot of rounds!)
Also, Hiker asked if anyone doing AI worked fulltime out of the house? I have that same question as many who post here seem to say it can be rough and I also work fulltime." ********* My husband completed AI after 7 rounds. He did absolutely nothing else while on the drops. He is an engineer and went to work every day.
I can only guess that doing away with miasms, inappropriate responses to foods, heavy metals, etc., would have positive "long lasting effects."
As you know, most of us are in the midst of it so it is a little hard to answer your question.
Best to ask Selma and sixgoofy about their experience with biophotons over on the other thread.
I never knew what a heavy metal felt like until I used the bionic. I feel it has it's place but not in the manner in which it was used (for me) - a mouth full of amalgams at the time.
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In general, Europeans finish AI in 5 - 6 courses. People with a multifactorial chronic disease, such as Lyme, apparently take a lot longer. That is the answer I got from AI and they are still trying to find an answer to this, uness we are just more toxic. I am sure years of abx doesn't help. One MS patient took much longer (from wheelchair to bicycle).
The treatment is permanent. New exposures and lifestyle that cause the body to dysregulate can happen. New chemicals..... vaccines.... geoengineered foods..... who knows~! One of the practitioners who uses AI in her practice for clients in Germany told me that some people do the test every few years if they have reason to do so.
Take care.
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