lightparfait
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Hang in there runner.
I am now understanding that our body's memory of past injuries, and illness and the immune reaction are healing in reverse...like a time traveler. I am experiencing old, past aches , pains and odd things. The come and go quickly.
When I get these new odd symptoms, later I remember that I have had these before...a long time before.
That gives me hope that I am moving forward toward the end of the treatments...and the end to my bodies regulation problems.
Instead of spiraling out of control, it is now reversing , spiraling back into control, and revisiting my health past. Like Ebenizer Scrooge in "A christmas Carol"...my past will no longer haunt me, and things are becoming clearer and clearer..if that makes sense to you.
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LP, that makes so much sense!
(I will be glad when I can get through the night without the most horrible nightmares.... it's said that is detoxing too.)
Take care all.
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Thanks Lp, i need some encouragement here..things have been pretty intense. i continue to want to sleep and sleeep. i too am having alot of vivid dreams..i am trying ot pay attention to them.
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runner, if i remember the dream, i lift it up on the fleeting cloud and watch it sail away...........
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Runner, If your body says sleep...then sleep! Hopefully you have the time to do just that!
Thats how it heals.
And do not be discouraged if you feel your symptoms are harder than others that post. You may be sicker in general.
When those compare themselves to me...you must know that I was never one of the sicker ones. I had all the lyme and co-infections, etc...but caught it early enough ... I believe... to get ahead of very bad problems developing that others on this board have had.
I was fortunate to have several neighbors that diagnosed my symptoms...and got me to the right llmd to educate me...and begin treatment during my decline. They also saved my daughters life I believe as she had very bad symptoms. We both resonded well to traditional LLMD treatments...over a 1 1/2 year time period.
So adding the AI to our treatment we both have had great responses and nothing too debilitating, like others have posted. So those with more severe problems...most likely will re-experience them I believe.
Most likely Runner that is why you are feeling pretty bad on the drops. You are going in reverse and undoing what has been done before... emotionally, mentally and physically.
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Thanks LP, i appreciate this. I have had alot to do with, most started with vaccinnations and alot of fish and then a tick bite. i am also realizing over the years how toxic i was from chemicals..
its a long road..but i do feel i am unwinding in some ways. its funny lately i have been craving tuna fish sandwiches. there was a time in my life when i was running alot for cross country and i would eat about 3 per day..before i know abou tmercury..this was around 2000. i wonder if i am unwinding from that time period..anyway, thanks again for your support...all the best, runner
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Dear Runner,
In my experience, craving things is usually the past coming back to haunt me! LOL!!
Biochemically, taking Vitamin C tends to turn off cravings.
As far as diet, having a balanced meal (in the Zone)prevents cravings. Cravings for sugar or high-glycemic index foods means too much of those in the last meal vs. the proteins and fats.
At any rate, sounds like a tuna "flash-back" to me!! LOL!! You, of course, have to decide for yourself!
Love,
Cass A
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I did 7 rounds and nothing else was found at that time. I took 3 months off, resent my sample, and new items have surfaced. It appears that I was not ready at the time for more AI, but now I am. I am now doing round 8 and we will see how many more rounds follow.
The first day I started them again, I could smell the strong urine smell.
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Very interesting Scott...thank's for posting. Yes...I know that smell!
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I know that smell too.
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Scott,
Just curious why you think nothing else was found after round 7, and now things are found?
Just wondering when we really stop treatments and stop sending in samples.
When they say no more is found?...or do we wait as well a few months later to re-send the sample.
Is that the normal protocol to know if one is complete?
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Interesting, Scott. By the way, do you mind saying whether this later round is still included in the original price?
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Scott
A.I. has told me, that because we live in a toxic environment, that we may need to do another test in the future, and clear new things.
They said the older dysregulations stay cleared, like the inherited conditions and older emotional things.
But newly acquired things may need to be addressed after possible 8-10 years, from their experience...or when we notice problems with new symptoms after time.
I wasn't expecting to continue so quickly. But I know we are all unique!
Just wondering if you think someting you were doing at the time of A.I. might of blocked it from a total regulation? Like another treatment at the same time? Or is this a continual thing to work on for some.
I ask as some on this board are doing other treatments or continuing ongoing therapies with the A.I. and others are doing nothing extra... intentionally to let regulation happen naturally.
We are all experimenting and comparing individually! It is so good to share and compare experiences for support.
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I suspect that people who do many side therapies besides AI, which is not desirable as clearly expressed by AI, can run into this problem where the testing will not reveal dysregulations at the time even though they are still present.
Usually they test until nothing shows up any longer as an error in the system and that is the end of the therapy.
Of course, new dysregulations can happen again later in life, depending on what we do to ourselves and our lifestyle. We will not be "immune"; new chemicals appear every day which our body is not able or evolved to handle.
I really think it is not a good idea at all to add more detoxing pushes - no matter who we are. Our body can only deal with a certain amount of toxin release, which is happening all the time while we are on AI. Each bottle therefore only addresses a limited number of problems.
HG keeps saying to me, whenever I inquire, not to add anything to the load which we are now trying to dig up. Not everything we have been doing was a good thing for us and only added more to the load that was already on the "landfill" somewhere in our system.
As a rule, they tell in writing when they cannot find any more errors and when the bbody will not reveal any more and that is the end of the therapy.
I am sure the pain pills and the anesthesia I had to have with my broken arm recently will need to come out again. And probably also the emotional and shock to go through an ordeal like this. Nightmares!!!!! and reliving the fall/accident!
I am cooking broths galore - only have trouble lifting the heavy pot with one hand......... or cutting foods .....
Take care all.
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round 6 came today for me . my reading showed 3 chemical substances and 6 energetic blockages. the shifts in my body are very apparent. i feel much better when on the drops. runner
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Dear Friends,
I'm about 2/3rds of the way through Round 7 now.
This past week, I've been able to skip my daily nap, for the first time in many years. Not every day, but many of them.
My tinnitus is less than it was a month ago.
Overall, a lessening of other symptoms as well.
Whoo hoo!
Best,
Cass A
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I guess I'm at the end of round 4 or is 5. Still allergic to verything outside. I know to be patient. Just sad.
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pollen allergie, etc., per ai, is caused by chemicals, not innocent plants. I know that sounds strange, but I will take their word for it. At bottle 4 or 5, you have barely scratched the surface for "Americans". That is what I have recently been told. So be patient.
Take care.
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thansk for this encouraging note gigi, for i am also still very reactive to some allergies, esp foods.
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As most know following this thread I am in poor health. M.S / Lyme. I have been doing A1 for 5 rounds now and I quite taking LDN,{Low dose Naltrexate}It is used for halting my M.S. symptoms. Somewhere during the second round I stoped taking it because I noticed My mouth would hurt { Trigeminal Neralgia } soon after taking my nightly dose.So I have been off it for several months now 4 to 5 ? not exactly sure.
Due to sleeping terriable I have taken a small amount of Xanaz nightly to sleep,I went 4 days without it a few weeks ago, I ran out . A friend gave me a small amount of thers although it was stonger than what I was taking,I tried to break them up but from the start of taking them 2 weeks ago, each day I was slowly getting weaker.I actualy had a acident in the bath tub the other day ,I fell in the tub and was scalded with very hot water .I'm trying to make the whole ugly scene condensed. So that day I flushed the rest of pills down the tolit. My eyesight on the friends pills were getting a little blurry but several days after the tub insident and stopping the pills Cold turky, I am having double vision,and wierd, but my right upper side of my chest has been numb for several days and has gotton progresivly worse.
So I dont know if all these problems are from stoping the LDN, the tub insident or stopping the pills. Or maybe some of each.Plus the fact that I cant sleep more than a few hours a night now since stopping the zanax.
I also thought that it could be very old symptomes surfacing due to the drops ? I hope you guys were able to understand my scattered post but I'm scared, tired and cant see strait.Any sugestions ?
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Hi Kisis, First, you the medication you described is one you have to wean off of.
It it possible to get an rx for a lower dose so you can stabilize and then work on the weaning process?
Upping the dosage or quitting cold turkey can produce symptoms..so i would work on stabilizing.
I do hope this helps. you could try low doseages of klonopin to help your sleep with melatonin and 5 htp. maybe others will also have something to add to help with sleep issues.
try and realize that you have went off two major medications and that you may be having symptoms withdrawal. I do not know alot about LDN but i understand it could be a steroid. when you take steriods it can suppresss symptoms and then going off of it, can uncover the mask so to speak.
i hope this helps. Runner
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Thanks for reply Runner. LDN is not a steroid but it does boost the immune responce. I've been off of it for almost 6 monthes but now i'm wondering if that was a wise move.I havent taken zanax for 3 days now and my eyes are still blurry, maybe a tad bit better and the numbness has moved, it's shifted towards my back more.I was finally able to sleep long and soundly last night. I took 1 advil PM 2 herbal Restful sleep and drank some sleepy time tea extra.I do have some 5 HTP my friend had sent me, do you are anyone know of a dosage I should try.Im sure the zanax was contributing to my weakness so I really dont want to get back on that.
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5htp..i take about 150-200mg , but each person is different depending on how sensitive you are. good luck.
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I just got my testing back and it's pretty daunting! I am going to send for the treatment drops now.
I've been off all treatment for 7 weeks and my arthritis, tinnitus and headaches/bodyaches are back pretty significantly. can't tell what is relapse for Lyme or just a worn-out immune system.
i'm so tempted to try abx again, but I really want to give AI a shot. Four years of abx with increasing abx sensitivity has brought me to this point.
Any one else with similar path?
Fingers crossed,
wiserforit2
Did anyone else
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It's time we pull this innocent thread up into daylight. In my estimation, it is probably the most important thread moving on this board.
One of the bad symptoms my husband had was that I have had a hard time understanding him when he speaks for many months. It sort of became second nature. Well, it is gone, he now speaks perfectly strong and clear again.
Still into the 10th bottle - he came up with a total of 9 chemical groups, 7 biological substances, 6 toxins, and 7 blockades in the information field ----- all that while he constantly tests for toxic heavy metals - obviously now moving from where they were causing problems. We hope they are on their way out, but am saving new hair growth from haircut to do hairtest soon.
All good things take time. I hope all of you can be patient. Take care.
The biological substances can be anything natural from our environment, a plant, a bee, an amino acid, a vitamin, a whatever. Doesn't matter. AI reversed the switch for the system to react the way it should. Many things happen during a serious disease process when the body starts to move into the wrong direction. AI reverses it.
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I just finished my 7th bottle and am mailing the sample for #8.
My most recent report still showed 7 chemical substances (that has been the magic number for the last 3, I think)
Also 9 energetic blockades, when previous reports have been lower, 3-5, I think.
So we are digging deeper. I'm sure some of this is grief related from some difficult death anniversaries. I needed a lot of rest and felt like doing not too much.
Physically, I revisited some old, probably bacterial and viral symptoms, lots of tonsil stones for a couple of weeks, sore throats, fatigue, pain in the lower GI tract for a week, a cold that came on suddenly when I overdid a little and got some unpleasant news.
It all feels like progress, though, and I persist with the fiber and binders to help sweep the toxins out.
Good luck to all! Nutmeg
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The strangest thing just occured symptom wise.
My very bad left knee normally is in constant pain...which I have had many years is now gone. I can walk up steps without it hurting and can bend and sit and kneel without the usual stiffness. The synovial tissue was always inflamed..and I had surgury years ago before I found out about lyme diagnosis.
Nothing helps it, so I always baby it! I have stopped any pounding exercises for the past 4 years as I was frightened of needing knee replacement in the future.
Always blamed it on running on pavement and aerobics on concrete floors in my youth!
This is so noticeable for me that I can hardly believe I have no pain now for two days. I have done nothing different and no other therapies at all...Let's see how long this lasts...
Would be interesting if this was a result of the drops.
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Hobokinite, so sorry to hear you are still struggling with environmental allergies. My hayfever and asthma seemed to get better after round #5. I'm still very sick in other ways, though.
I just saw what GiGi posted on this thread about pollution/toxins being the real cause of pollen allergies.
This clip, from the documentary 'Allergy Planet', seems to confirm what AI is saying:
It's quite relevant for those doing AI therapy.
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cool thanks zombie..
and thanks Gigi..i have thought about doing a hair test as well..keep us up to date with the results.
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Lp, hope your knee continues to be pain-free!
I'm just about to start Round 5 today; 4th check showed same number of chemical [10], biological [3] and energetic [6] irregularities as the previous one, though of course they are not necessarily the same substances.
I have no positive changes to relate at the moment, but I know there are many rounds to go,
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Had a strange experience yesterday. Was on an hour drive to my dentist.
The entire drive, all I could smell was chemicals. I though I must be driving through an area with an industrial plant or something.
I realized I was in the country and the smell was that of a hair salon!!
It continued the entire trip and so I wonder if the last batch of chemicals that showed are up the ones I used on my hair over the years, and were coming out.
LP - great news about your knee - hope it keeps up!
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Interesting Nana about the smells...I too get things like that from time to time.
Day five of no knee pain...still for me.
This is so strange. Did not think the AI could help ever with these types of things...but it may be toxin related, and not just loss of cartledge.
IT still clicks when I walk up stairs...but no pain.
Amazing.
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The only way to get rid of a chronic ailment is to detox. If you are depressed, you are toxic. If your feet ache, you are toxic. And one thing I have learned for certin: If you have Lyme, you are very, very, very toxic.
We are being bombarded with 80,000 (eighty thousand) chemicals every second of the day and night!
The only way out is to unload - as Dr. K. used to say "the only way out is the way through"......
Take care.
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I am in a quandary and don't know what to do! I sent off sample #7 and just got the letter back saying they no longer can find any 'energetically relevant disruptions'.
During the past month, I caught a cold from my kids which turned into pneumonia. I was put on 10 days of Levaquin to clear it up.
As a result, I was doing abx during round 6 of AI. This was not my plan but I had an acute infection that could have been deadly if left untreated!
I wound up mailing off my sample while still on abx and now I am wondering if that interfered with their final analysis.
I am VERY ill with ALS/Lyme: unable to walk more than few steps, slurred speech, cannot dress or bathe myself without help, use breathing assistance (BIPAP machine) at night.
I find it hard to believe that someone as sick as I would be 'all cleared up' after just 6 rounds when others are on their 8th or 10th bottle.
So, what do I do now? Should I write to them and ask to be retested? Do I have to wait 3 months before sending? I am so ill, I'm not sure if I HAVE 3 months...
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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zombie, send ai a note telling them in two short sentences. I am sure this is what happens and it shuts down the system to where it does no longer reveal. Ask them to contact me if they do not understand your note. You and they have my e-mail.
Did you tell them that you took a medication? If you did not, I would tell them.
Take care.
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I will write to them in both languages and hope that they will agree to retest.
I neglected to tell them about taking the antibiotic.
I just want say that, although I am still crippled, AI has helped me already in so many other ways:
I no longer have tinnitus. It was so bad, I used to need a white noise machine at night in order to get some sleep.
If I ate even a molecule of the 'wrong' food, my mouth would break out in sores and I would become horribly constipated for days, sometimes weeks. This no longer happens!
I have suffered my whole life with dust/pollen/pet hair allergies. I used to wake up every am with a runny nose and would sneeze all the time. This stopped after AI round 5.
I have not used my asthma inhaler for 2 months.
By round 6, I figured we were just getting to the 'deeper' issues...
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Hi,
I am sending my sample today . i have a question, my saliva already dried up on teh tissue! Does this mattter..any thoughts?
thanks, runner
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R, Hope you can spit a bit again, put the tissue in a baggie and seal it. Wrap baggie flat in foil and mail. Foil is to avoid drying out. I am sure the "information" is still in it when dry. But they suggest foil around it.
Take care.
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Zombie, AI suggested you send in another sample in four weeks. Their reason: abx suppress the immune system and also the testing. Give it some time and maybe they will find more.
I mailed you last night, but thought to post it here just for the comments re abx and AI.
You have some great results already. That's wonderful!
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Has anyone ever tried tricking AI and putting someone else's blood or an animal's blood in the envelope as a test? Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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If you have the guts, why don't you try it.
And you may be surprised, animals are just as toxic as humans.In fact, the first I heard of AI was from a person who had her dieing cat tested and treated and being healed. They actually treat animals, especially after vaccinations when the problems start.
In general, I think it is a disgusting thought and not worthy wasting a word on.
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Seek - How would that be tricking them?
They get blood or saliva and send results for what they find.
Am I missing something?
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Dear Friends,
I just got my results from my most recent sample--number 7!
4 chemical substances and 7 energetic blockades.
Soooo....I'm onto my 8th round of the drops.
One DEFINITE improvement is that I'm not needing a nap every single day! And, my tinnitus is lessening a bit at a time.
I'm very glad to be doing this approach!
Best,
Cass A
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I just received my drops and plan to start them on the weekend. I have alot of inflammation right now and haven't taken any abx in about two months in preparation for AI.
My question is this: for those who are doing AI, do you have an alternative practitioner helping you?
My LLMD does not do any alternative treatments and is staying out of this choice that I've made. I am looking for someone as backup for detoxing issues, etc.
I do not have a biotensor and wouldn't know how to use it! I am going to be doing AI on my own. Other than chlorella, detox tea and Epsom Salt baths, I know very little about proper detox. In fact, I detox abx and chemicals poorly.
Everyone on this post seems to have a knowledge of testing methods or alternative practitioners to help them. Am I nuts to do this solo?
Suggestions?
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I posted earlier and i dont see it.
Anyway, i wanted to know if there are any suggestions for kidney support or lymph support?
Thanks,Runner
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Wise, No, don't feel that way. I am not sure I would even take chlorella, unless you are certain you tolerate it well. Some people don't and chlorella also removes metal from the extracellular spaces and I would certainly wait until you clear the majority of the toxic substances. I think what is important is to make sure you get the appropriate liquids. It has been discussed in this thread. I also would not push with Epsom baths, etc. The drops will work for you without a lot of other extra detox methods, some of which your body may not be able to deal with yet until you clear some of the dysregulations.
Rest and relax as you can - would be my recommendation!
Take care.
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Gigi -- thank you once more for your sweet wisdom and kindness in replying so very quickly.
I have a question about the AI toxic metal explanation. Many chemicals were listed in yellow boxes, but only four were marked with red x's.
Does this mean that four are significantly worse than the others OR does it mean that only four were found out of all the others? Are the others part of my profile even if not X-ed?
Thanks, again, Gigi -- you are truly a saint!
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I've determined that something about chlorella doesn't agree with me, so I've stopped taking it. It seems to make my cheeks flush red and hot. Not sure why, but I'm following my body's clues anyway.
Something important to add in would be fiber to help sweep out any toxins that make it to your digestive tract and keep them from being reabsorbed back into your body.
GiGi has posted quite a bit about this in the thread here. You might go page-by-page through this entire thread using the *find on this page* feature on your browser toolbar to see if you can locate some of the information.
I've been taking fiber all along (8 months or so), and I do pretty well with it. Apple pectin fiber, ground flax seed, psyllium, detoxifiber, etc. would all work, depending on what you tolerate. I don't use a lot...just a small-enough dose to prevent getting the runs. This morning I ate an apple with the skin instead of drinking my fiber.
I take the fiber on an empty stomach, usually 30 minutes before a meal, or in the evening. Make sure you follow that with a meal or small snack that contains some healthy fat. Fat stimulates the release of bile, which carries the toxins with it. The fiber is already on board to soak it up.
Hope that makes sense. Others may have a different strategy with regard to timing.
Take care and good luck. Let us know how you're doing. Nutmeg
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Dear Wiser,
In reading the AI readout, the yellow is just to highlight the area. Red "x" marks where you personally have a problem.
Hope this helps!
Best,
Cass A
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