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Has anyone used MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) while on AI? Dr. K recommended it for me and so I've been doing it and now am maintaining the drops at 6 each night... they said possibly for 6-12 months! Depending on how I muscle test when I go in Friday! Anyway, I was also wondering if it is bad for your teeth? Seems like mine are getting more senesitive (maybe coincidence?) and it seems very acidic.
Just curious. Thanks!
Also, to those that have asked about kids support Dr. K recommended that I look up his "Vitamin K" protocol within the autism section I believe as parts of it can be helpful for all children.
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I have had some tightness in my chest area...feels like the arteries around my heart...or possible indigestion? But with heart palpitations. Have had this for several weeks now.
I had this same feeling mildly...that lasted a few months in the middle of the AI therapy...was concerned, so had my heart checked...and the heart muscle is healthy...
It all cleared on its own then...but now is back for the past month...just when I completed the AI.
I"m always wonering...is it something to reallly be concerned about...or is it something clearing...
Guess I"m still caught up on protocols..or working on things that show up...rather than just waiting it out...but when its around the heart area im concerned.
Wondering if it is related to my now higher cholesterol numbers...(never had any cholesterol problem before lyme treatment) and possible plaque buildups..as when I test my heart area with the tensor...the area around the heart tests as a problem...not the heart itself. Also veins in my leg test as a problem. I have no visable varicose veins...have always maintained healthy cardio...
Just find this all new and odd.
Any idea if this could be related to die off and detox? Possible after effects of treatment? With possible biofilm plaques or cholesterol build up in the arteries?
The fact that I still have issues with re--circulating toxins keeps me on guard.
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I have been having eye twitches, eye pressure and headaches in only the left eye, but interestingly the only times it was relieved was after a lymph drainage session and colonic as well as when I tasted metal in my mouth ...it seems like I must be detoxing!
I know there was someone else here who experienced eye symptoms as well.
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Eye symptoms for me were an almost constant come and go. I would be very surprised if you were not detoxing, Gettin! Just don't overdo. AI takes care of a lot without our adding too much.
Take care.
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I have come to the conlusion that the less we help by mobilizing, the better it is. This I would think is especially important for people who start AI while still in a very toxic state (which was not the case for me). That makes binders that much more important . Binders, elimination, lymphatic drainage, light brushing, chi machine (don't need an expensive one), colonics, but not added anti-this's and anti-that's. Nothing that mobilizes more toxins. We shouldn't forget that most of them were in hiding probably for a long time, slowly putting the whole body out of action. AI awakens the system - and easy does it - should be the rule.
If I can tolerate anything with Chlorella and added agents (such as cilantro) doesn't mean everybody can. That is why energetic testing is so important. And fooling oneself with testing happens easily unless you are a master at mind control. I am not, and I know I would much rather do a little extra pushing to finally reach the other side, it does not mean everybody can do that.
Cholesterol rising is a sign that the body is trying to wrap things up - protect itself! Low cholesterol is not always a good sign - low is not necessarily for the best. Dr. K. said recently that he can tell every time his cholesterol went up, he had a flair-up or it was linked to a heavy detox activity. Don't remember his exact words, but he told me that same thing 10 years ago. When he graduated from Med School, An acceptable cholesterol was a lot higher than today. I think there is money to be made with statins!
I would not worry, LP. We also have to learn to not keep pushing. I find this just as hard to do as everyone else. That is probably why our young ones do just fine without a lot of special attention.
Remember metals are well distributed over the various body compartments (Law of Osmosis) and they are in the feet. If the body starts to work overtime, we feel it. After all, it took us probably a lifetime to accumulate all the toxins, we need to give it a chance. I have had similar episodes as you feel them. Detoxing can take years. At least it does for me. "A few months of chelating mercury'' as I hear so often - sounds like someone is telling a joke. What I am trying to say is --- do not do any extra mobilizing. I think it backfires. Maybe you are not guilty of that, but I tend to push harder and feel it when I do it.
Dr. K. recently, after I nudged him into it, did Direct Resonance Testing on my foot. , I had a plate and seven 1-1/2" long screws installed in my little foot (size 7) after a fracture severa; years ago. I talked the surgeon into removing them one year later, because K. pushed me. But I was positive that some residue was left behind because my ankle kept swelling on and off. Oh, the surgeon said, arthritis cannot be avoided. Dr.K. found Titanium in the foot and ankle with DRT a few days ago. The same as I had found with my tensor before that. The metals trying to escape from there now can cause inflammation and swelling. I had suggested some weeks ago to read the text accompanying the different Biologo products which beautifully explain some of the reasons for certain ingredients.
You can DRT yourself using any of the vials, slides (for pathogens) and/or remedies/products you have to see what is causing symptoms. It is a method Dr. Yoshiaki Omura taught - Dr.K. always gives him credit. Hold the substance close to the area you want to test, and use your tensor. Maybe your ND can test you with ART.
Gravity - metals move to the lowest points in body. They are referred to as heavy metals because they are heavier than water - jaw, reproductive area, feet. None feel good. With it often comes some of the lingerers of the eco-system (remaining neurotoxins).
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I have titanium plates in my upper jaw I don't actually think they can be removed at this point -the surgery happened almost 20 years ago. At the time they went back in and removed the screws from my lower jaw as it wasn't healing properly - my body was rejecting the screws (smart body) But they said they couldn't remove the plates on my upper jaw - not sure why.
Interesting that you should mention that - I was just remembering about them the other day, and wondering if they are problematic
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Skiesmama, if they can't be taken out, try to have someone desensitize you toward the material.
It may be possible that if you do AI, the sensitivity can be corrected. Nothing is impossible, if you ask me.
Take care.
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Has anyone had terrible insomnia during taking AI or after clearing the drops. I have had it for a long time now and wonder if the insomnia is related to Ai even though I cleared 2 weeks ago.
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Thanks Gigi...you always have a way of posting the things that are relevant...and helpful!
And you confirm many of my own thoughts or possible directions!
Not sure if I am guilty of mobilizing...as right now have not been doing too much of anything! Although a few weeks ago I was testing for NDF and liverlife...off and on...and did use the NDF several times, spaced out over days.
Also did take some garlic tincture...off and on...
so moving and killing some things did occur.
I have even forgotten to take chlorella for days...and then will do it...then forget again. Having lots of emotional family issues to contend with...and not taking care of myself lately.
Recieved my biopure order...with all the mobilizers. binders etc from the Dr. K seminar...things I tested for then...and haven't worked up a protocol yet...
I was planning on "going wild" with clearing the debris the best way possible. But have not started microsilica or any of the basic protocols.
The one thing I know could be an issue, is mineral depletion. I have been out of minerals for a month now...ordered them from bioure and just got them...but havent even taken them.
I'm sure I am depleted...and possibly is contributing to the heart palitations.
I will test today.
I did learn the "O' (Omara) ring test and have been practicing a little. I do agree, its hard to know if I am "neutral" when testing. I think I am, but the subconscious is most likely not neutral with all the info I am learning...and guessing.
Besides the heart palps and chest tightness...I am feeling great physically.
Lymph still needs help moving here and there...but overall, I am feeling very balanced. Even with all the emotional turmoil in my family...I am able to cope in a balanced way.
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Lee,
I had and have insomnia off and on...
Mine is waking between 2-4 am...
When I work on liver support...I seem to sleep better. For me it seems to be organ related...and toxin build up...
also, if I exercise in the day...and don't go to bed too early...or sleep in too late , I will sleep through the night. Getting the sleep rythmns in line.
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ok...interesting...
just tested for what resonates with the heart area using tensor, and "o" ring, with the test kits and remedies on signal enhancers.
Mercury (only) registers big time around the heart area...not within the muscle...but in the veins and arteries around and through the heart...with Smilax Glabra tincture, PC Noni and Chlorella P. as remedies. Of course I don't have any Smilax or Noni...
Mercury, lead and aluminum also resonate big time in my gut, intestines, and liver !!!!! Mercury only is in the kidney area!!! No metals in feet or below intestinal/kidney area.
Before today...Mercury tested only in the brain..front left lobe, and base of skull...and it is still there now too.
Yes...appears things are moving! And most likely with the help of NDF those few times I took it before...as I tested the NDF with the Mercury...and it is also around the heart!
With a big no to taking this again for now. cilantro by iteslf tests NO...detrimental.
I do want to protect myself...any more thoughts friends.
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Thanks for the PM's all.
I did finally open my box of goodies from Biopure...and took the matrix minerals...and took chlorella 4 hours later as suggested to spread it out so my minerals will have a chance to absorb...and not captured as suggested.
Then I tested to use the "green laser" for 1 minute around the area of discomfort.
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Everything's so quiet? All must be doing well. Just ordered the next bottle, #13.
LP, How are you doing with the green laser? Hope you are careful. When I used to do it, our visiting dog definitely moved to the couch further away. Amazing stuff?
Enjoy the leaves and blossoms!
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Doing well, body still adjusting after finishing drops almost 4 months ago.
I had some insomnia for awhile after stopping (and during) but that seems to be gone. Sleeping through the night and an hour or so later than I usually do. I was usually waking during the "liver hours".
I did notice I was really tired for a few weeks and that seems to have subsided as well.
Feels good taking a break from binders and all. Don't feel like I need anything except minerals right now.
Hope you are all doing well - haven't been on here for about a week so wanted to check in.
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I"m doing well...but interesting that Nana posts about being tired...as just yesterday (all day) I am getting that deep tired feeling...the same feeling as when I began the drops.
This is not fatigue...but a sense of deeper healing. I have been going through a lot of family emotional turmoil, unrelated to health. I feel that my body is releasing all of this. Like the calm after the storm.
I too had been waking at the liver hours each night the past several months pre and post ending drops. And I usually wake refreshed (suprisingly so at 6am...like clockwork) Today I slept til 7:30... and through the night...I could not believe it...
Gigi...I haven't used the green laser since...but originally got it as recommended for my teeth situation...Have also used it on a minor injury...hit my leg on the car door..left a scar under the skin! The scar is milder looking with the laser. I'm not recommending the green laser here for others to experiment with...as I have been trained on this as a novice...(I get advice before trying things...and before I used it around the heart...) it can be dangerous if not used correctly. Just posting my experiences.
Interesting...had my teeth cleaned yesterday...and took chlorella prior to that.
A few hours later, had the pressure/pain return around the heart. First time since using the laser. It appears now to me that chlorella may be linked to this...and possible indigestion. Never had that reaction in the past year when taking boat loads of chlorella...but was taking chlorella during the previous more recent episode.
I am also testing for Acai around the heart ( I have the biopure test kit). Not sure what Acai is used for...but it is testing strong for me to try. Have not ordered it, as I am taking a break from all binders as well. Like Nana...I too have been only taking the liquid minerals for the past few weeks. (until yesterdays chlorella episode)
I do not believe in coincidences...it is fascinating that Nana and I are having similar experiences regularly! Even after ending the AI.
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I am also experiencing much fatigue and more of my mild seizures than usual and I have been done with AI for a month now.
Unfortunately I don't sleep so well, but a sleep study may show I have the mild seizures during the night which would affect my sleep. We'll have to wait and see on that.
Yesterday was a full moon and I could tell!
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Electroylte Enhanced Matrix (Biopure). Just wanted to let you know that the ingredients listed on the website for this product are not correct.
The product now contains a small amount of lithium in the form of lithium chealate and I was surprised to see that when it arrived. I don't understand the point of the lithium chealate in it as it does interact with some medications such as high blood pressure medications, and lithium also interacts with sodium chloride and sodium bicarbonate which are two of the other ingredientss in the formula. Although it seems like a small amount, people need to be aware of this.
Also the matrix is spring water not distilled water as stated on the website.
I called the company and suggested they update the site immediately. They are going to refund my money as well.
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Has anyone else's bottles been delivered with the liquid spilt inside? It didnt spill so much that there's a lot gone, but just enough to smear the labels off of the bottles ....so I accidentally had mine and my sons out of the bags at the same time and now I am not sure who is who's :-( I emailed HG for help.
But, good news is that AI seems to be REALLY working!!!
I recently went in to have my supplements and protocol muscle tested and all of the items that make you get rid of metals my body said "no" to and all of the binders they said "YES"....I told them my body felt like it is oozing metals and they said "I think you are right!"....so even without anything just binders I still am just getting rid of metals everyday it seems like <knock on wood>.
Still have food allergies, but obviously there's a lot to clean up before we tackle that I guess :-)
Lastly, I recently found something that works great for regularity (a fiber mix that contains flax seeds, chia seeds and inulin-FOS plus citrus and peels) it is AMAZING!
However, I think I'm realizing that I need to drink way more water (of course with electrolytes!).
I went in for a lymphatic drainage and colonic today and had an experience afterward that I have never had (usually I'm as light as a cloud and feel great!). My stomach began to hurt as I was checking out and then I started to sweat a lot and my face turned very pale and I started to feel like I was going to pass out. After laying down with a cold washcloth and taking more electrolyte water I felt better, but I was disappointed that it happened. A lot of people at the clinic said that it had happened to them as well before.
Has this happened to anyone else? I'm going to try to be really well hydrated prior to the next colonic and see if I can avoid it!
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Also, one other thing I thought I'd mention for those with kids on AI...my son (5) occasionally mentions "pain" in an elbow, on an arm, a leg, a knee - he hasn't hit the spot and can't describe the pain really, but as soon as I give him "lemonade" (microsilica, lemon, water and stevia) within 10 minutes the pain is gone. I know when I had "pains" in my bones earlier through this process it turns out I was releasing lead and after taking microsilica my "pain" was also relieved.
So....just letting you know if they make a complaint such as this then it may be worth upping the binders and watching to see if it makes a difference.
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Lee, usually all products that Biopure sells are energy tested on people or it is known what they are lacking through testing.
In recent testing of several of the people I am close to, everyone had little or no trace of lithium in their mineral base. And without it, we cannot function well. If you check most natural minerals, most of them contain lithium.
In fact some people are supplementing with lithium orotate or aspartate. I remember I had to do that years ago when I still had Lyme. Now my mineral picture is great.
If you have doubt, don't self-treat, but make sure that you get tested before you take anything. That is probably a good idea for almost everyone who is still very toxic.
I do think that Biopure carries several different electrolytes, because I got some recently of the kind that is on the website, no lith. If you don't find the item on their website, maybe it's a good idea to ask for details before you purchase. They probably have not had time to update their website yet. I have a hunch that this item was added because it became so obvious that many are deficient in certain substances. lithium a major one. Dr. K. and all the practitioners around him, including all the ones who practice in Europe, share what they find - in Europe he has several hundred of them and they all have patients --- that makes for a lot of input. But it looks like you solved it by returning it. That is good.
GettinHealthy, I have come to the same conclusion as you quite a few months ago that the metals are literally just dribbling out and the only concern is with binders and keeping minerals from depletion and lymphatics working and all else moving out.
I think that AI has taken care of a lot more than I ever thought possible. And we are not even finished yet. I am very pleased with the results.
And once you start treating a few parasites, if it is necessary, more metals will be forthcoming. I find this happening with a couple of people who are sharing with me, and one of them is my husband.
Please read my post about parasites that was running on LN lately. They can cause numerous problems, and hardly anyone thinks of this. It is, as Dr.K. said years ago, probably the most overlooked holdup. Treating it once, as my husband did several years ago, was not enough. So it is something to watch.
It is so nice that you contribute all that you are learning.
Take care.
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Getting Healthy...so glad you are experiencing benefits! Thanks for sharing.
Over the past year, we have also received a few drops that had been moist on the outside of the plastic bottle, with the label falling off.
although I do not believe anything actually dripped out...as it was sealed well. It appeared to me that there was some sort of moisture in the bag...or on the outside of the bottle when they put it in, or possibly around the rim of the cap...causing condensation of some sort during the air travel. It did not effect the amount of drops for us...just the label was moist.
If you have a tenser...you can test your bottles and see who's they are...who they resonate with.
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GettingHealthy...
I've never had a colonics...but I have had those same type of reactions to other things...or physical procedures....and each time it was related to my vagus nerve...
Also had it once when I was going to have a breast biopsi...and the nurse told me she broke the IV needle in my vein, and said dont worry I can gerri- rig it and it will be fine...then...my mind created the vegas reaction...and my heart almost stopped!!! No biopsi happened, but they pulled out those heart paddles...and I was almost shocked with them...that was a scare!
both the mental subconscience and physcial stimulation can cause this from my experience!
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My daughter has complained of pains in her legs and arms too - where do you buy microsilica? I looked at biopure and see they sell it there - it's rather pricey tho - is there a more cost effective option that is still effective?
I've had the same thing happen with the leakage too and labels coming off - I'm always really careful now to open one at a time and relabel them - we have 7 bottles coming at once.
I'm still having quite a bit of kidney pain - not severe, but enough to make me feel like I need to be doing something more. I tried a castor oil pack and htat actually made all the pain go away, so I'll do more - I'm wondering how often I should do them?
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I buy the microsilica where I go into see Dr. K and pay about $150 I believe - it is pricey, but it is the best thing it seems!
LP - That is interesting about the mental subconscious because I was really worried, at the time, about being able to pick my son up from school on time (was really rainy day and traffic was horrible) so was trying to rush through....could have had something to do with it!
Thanks!
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Phosphorus is major agent that moves toxins through the kidney. Urine should be stinky and NOT light in color. If it is light, kidneys are not filtering the way they should. Also avoid drinking lots of plain water - it rushes through you taking the few minerals with it that you will had. Liquids containing other nutrients that have to be metabolized thereby avoiding therushed flow-through. Phosphorus is contained in Biopure electrolytes. Renelix helps kidneys. Would suggest you make sure that mineral base is okay. An inexpensive way to do this is getting a Doctor's Data hair test analysis ($46) which also shows if the bad minerals=toxic heavy metals are starting to move through hair and out.
Maybe your practitioner can help. We are supplementing the missing minerals that showed up. Mine were great, but husband's were horrible. He had unrecognized food/wheat/corn, soy allergies, while I had none. These are the things that create the leaky gut and malabsorption of nutrients. If you had these food allergies, check out your minerals. Without a good mineral base, detox does not happen.
Too much metals through kidneys at one time is not good. I would not add any Microsilica, especially untested. We stopped microsilica a while ago because of overload for kidney.
AI corrected regulations takes care of a lot and adding more metal agents is not always okay. Binders, yes. But nothing else aggressive. It didn't go in and settle all in a few months - so it will take many month to come out, if you want to avoid stressing the most important organs and doing damage there
Just my alert; don't want anyone to get hurt. It rhymes too!!!!!
Oh, and about Lemon: is alkalinizing and not the thing to do often when trying to keep things in balance with pH to detox metals. Metals only go into solution for detox in acidic environment. Once or twice would be okay, but not often.
See Rehydration Cocktail by Dr.K. I posted it a few months ago and it's on the internet.
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Oh I know my mineral base is low - 16 years of either pregnancy or breastfeeding, 5 babies, and undiagnosed gluten intolerance/celiac until 3 years ago. I'm tapped. I am taking a liquid mineral made of aloe vera juice and 9 sea vegetables - that seems to be helping to remineralize. I'll have to be more careful to get my liquids in ways other than water. I am still nursing - I have to make sure i get enough fluids.
I was taking the rehydration cocktail every day, but ran out of hte electrolytes - need to order more asap.
I don't have a practitioner - there isn't anyone anywhere near me who would even remotely understand AI. There aren't any good ones period. I live quite rurally.
A hair test could be good tho - see if the sea weed drink is helping at all.
Thanks,
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Heather, I don't know anyone in BC except a great dentist who has worked with Dr.K. for many years and does ART. He is in Victoria. He may know someone up in your area. Here is to a healthy baby!
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Ohhhhh!! COuld you PM the name of the Dentist in Victoria? I've been looking for a better dentist.
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My last bottle of AI drops had leaked when I unpacked it. There was water inside the plastic bag and the scotch tape came off.
I think the dropper lid was not screwed on the bottle tightly, and the cover cap also did not seem to fit tightly enough.
I traveled with that bottle and it leaked some more. I salvaged what I could. Next time I travel with a bottle of drops, I will make sure I have it inside a box or something to protect it so the lid doesn't get jostled.
I ended up not having enough drops to last the full two weeks, so I had to cut way back on the number of drops I took the last 3-4 days. Hopefully I got enough.
Just wanted to caution everyone that the bottles can leak.
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Please, anyone who got a bottle that leaked, send a mail to HG telling him. That's the only way to find out. I am sure part has to do with pressure at high altitude.
Skiesmama, it's Dino Paulos. Tell him hi from me. He was on my side when life was very tough in 1998. Good person who knows Lyme from A-Z. I have mentioned AI to him, but he is not on it yet. I don't know anyone with Lyme history who does not need it.
Take care.
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quote:Oh, and about Lemon: is alkalinizing and not the thing to do often when trying to keep things in balance with pH to detox metals. Metals only go into solution for detox in acidic environment. Once or twice would be okay, but not often.
If lemon is alkalinizing to an acidic system, why not add every day to water?
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I add a squeeze of lemon to their "lemonade" because that is what I was instructed by Dr. K and because Microsilica recommends it on the bottle - I'm sure this little amount is ok.
I tested extremely well for Microsilica in fact they said, joking, "sheesh, your body acts like it wants 17 scoops a day!"...it really works well for me. And the 1/2 scoop given to my kids when they complain of aches works well too.
Gigi is right, if you can be tested it is always better!
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I believe Gigi was trying to say that metals detox better in an acid environment and and not an alkaline environment, so lemon would not be good. Please correct me, Gigi, if I did not interpret your post correctly and I will delete mine.
Also, too much lemon will ruin the enamel on your teeth.
Hats off to those who sacrified for our country as we remember them on Memorial Day.
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Are there any binders that can be taken 30-45 minutes before a meal? I know activated charcoal needs to be taken at least 2 hours before or after, so I usually only take that in the late evening or at bedtime.
Chlorella doesn't agree with me very well, so I only take 1 tablet occasionally. Not sure if that is enough. If I take more than one or take it every day, I get the runs.
I've been taking various fibers 30-45 minutes before meals, but I'm getting too much fiber some days, even if I only take a small dose.
Just wondering if anyone has a favorite binder that works to mop up the toxins and metals from AI.
Thanks! Nutmeg
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Nutmeg...one chlorella is never enough...usually the more the better...as many times I test to take 30 to 60 at one time.
Some people have posted that taking more is better for them to handle than a lesser amount, for some reason.
Dr. K recommends chlorella as the best selection with no testing...but there are other things...like microsilica...apple pectin.
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It might depend on the brand of chorella that you are taking as to how much you can take. If LP is speaking of Biopure I know people take more of it than some other brands at one time.
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"God is light. In Him there is no darkness." 1John 1:5 Posts: 10168 | From Illinois | Registered: Aug 2004
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I've been wondering about the same thing actually. What about apple pectin - that one is taken with food no? Would that be a good option? (taken closer to meals I mean.) And waht about glycine?
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I figured 1 chlorella (I think they are 200mg each) was not enough, but maybe better than nothing. I don't think it's good to have the runs all the time, though.
I tried several brands a few years back and Kyo-Chlorella was the only one that didn't give me nausea and make me burp the taste for hours. I'm not anxious to try a more expensive brand and end up with yet another bottle I can't use.
I am currently taking NDF Plus liquid, which contains chlorella, and so far I'm tolerating that OK at 2 drops every morning.
Just looking for something that will bind up toxins but won't absorb all the nutrients from a meal. I want to take this before meals on an empty stomach to absorb toxins that come out when the liver secretes the bile. I know activated charcoal and stuff like clay have to be taken well away from food and supplements because they will absorb those too.
It works for me to take it 30-45 minutes before a meal, and I've mostly been using fiber for this. But with all the veggies and other stuff I eat, I'm getting too much fiber some days.
Just looking for an alternative. Maybe there isn't anything that will work for this timing.
Thanks, Nutmeg
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GiGi
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Try Betasitosterol - half hour before meals. I never did charcoal during the day, because I eat frequently. Charcoal in high amounts is perfectly safe, once in a while, at bedtime. Alternating is a good idea. Never taking the same thing all the time - that is the quickest way to force the body to reject it.
I also took the pectin in a chopped apple as I started to prepare breakfast, not with breakfast. It is good to prepare the apple ahead of time to let it turn brown providing enzymes that way.
Please check your mineral status. Many of us have little or no lithium. Doctor's Data hair test is a good way to find out and at the same time also find out how you are doing with toxic metals.
Take care.
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Thank you, GiGi. I will look into the betasitosterol and check out those links you posted when I get a chance.
The results of my hair analysis should be back any day now. Many of my minerals have always been low, both with the hair analysis and RBC tests. I'll be interested to see what's changed, presumably from doing the AI drops.
Much appreciated, Nutmeg
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Regulations are still happening:
feeling great and seems that my lymph and fluids are moving on their own...and I'm back to my body size again...no puffiness and my bras fit again!
Only taking minerals with occasional chlorella.
But am now testing to take acai, neem, mucana powder, garlic, and chlorella. Believe I am in need of clearing plaques or biofilms or cholesterol from arteries. Will continue to test before starting all this. Cleaning house phase I believe...but feeling great.
I am still experiencing regular "open regulation"!
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Importance of having someone else energy test you!! I just want to reiterate how important it is to have someone else periodically energy test you or use the biotensor.
My biotensor has been saying it was okay to eat gluten and wheat again. So, I tried it last week and had some of my small seizures. Was not sure if it was the wheat/gluten or weather changes or fatigue. Today I was energy tested for the foods I have been allergic to and gluten/wheat did not test well. However, the eggs, milk, and pineapple all tested fine. Still allergic to cherries.
I have the celiac genes, but AI has not cleared those yet and it remains to be seen if it will do so.
Anyway, make sure you periodically get someone else to test you for various things.
Blessings. Will not be posting this summer--I need to think of myself as well and sometimes going to this site is not good for me, although the people are wonderful.
"God is light. In Him there is no darkness." 1John 1:5 Posts: 10168 | From Illinois | Registered: Aug 2004
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I believe that wheat allergies just as with egg allergies have more to do with the chemicals and pesticides and not the food itself - especially after many rounds of AI.
All kinds of things are put in grain silos as preservatives, including mercury.
As long as anyone has lots of chemicals showing up on their tests, they could be the culprit until they are recognized and dealt with properly by our bodies.
Same with cherries - I don't know where they are in season right now other than maybe South America. Not much restriction there with the use of pesticides.
Not always the food, often what it's been soaked with.
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GiGi
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To address some of Hiker's remarks and for others in the same situation:
Some of Dr. K.'s publications spell it out very clearly that seizures are caused by toxic metals. This is one I saved because I used to have tiny seizures years ago. They are of course long gone.
Quoting Dr.K. from his detox and clinical pearls article written a number of years ago:
Muscle aches indicate the redistribution of toxins into the connective tissue and an insufficient program. Depression, headaches, trigeminal neuralgia, seizures, increased pain levels indicate redistribution of metals into the CNS [central nervous system] and an inappropriate detox program. Eye problems and tinnitus that occur during detox indicate redistribution of metals into these organs and require selective mobilization from these locations before the program is continued. End Quote.
So it is important to get some help from an expert. Added mobilization of any kind whether done with lights or biochemicals has to be dealt with carefully and certainly not without the help of someone who understands what can happen when metals are shifted around (with chemicals or exercise or photons, whatever) and can't find the exit.
This is one of the reasons AI recommends no other therapies while the body is so busy correcting its errors.
Much of what we call gluten/gliadin/wheat allergies are in fact chemical problems our body cannot deal with. We had assumed our son had a wheat allergy. No, he is still being treated for chemicals, chemicals, and toxic metals. Dairy allergy is actually a wheat allergy because cattle eat grain (frequencies) And how they are stuffed with corn to fatten them up!!!! and how they are fed antibiotics many causing aallergic reactions. Egg the same, they eat grain. So if one is okay and the other isn't, there probably are other factors involved, such as one of the thousands of chemicals we have become allergic to.
Overall, the adjustments continue to happen long after the last bottle of drops is done.
HG told me yesterday that they had been treating a very ill person through many bottles. Then nothing could be found any more and they stopped. About 7 months later it became obvious that something had not corrected yet and they did two more bottles. That did the trick and the person started to feel fine having no more symptoms from that time on.
So have some patience and it is wise not to force mobilization - photons do a heck of a job, of redistribution, unless specifically addressed, prepared for with the necessary agents. And it is especially tough if the allergies/dysregulations have not been addressed yet. Do we know what is in our body??
I agree with Nana. Also want to mention that one of the reasons HG suspects this program takes so much longer for Americans is that we have much more exposure to genetically engineered foods. Please look at any labels -- listing fructose --- made from corn, most of it genetically engineered. I don't think you can find many ears of corn that are not of that kind. Watch the movie King Corn! Or Soy - The Europeans scream and do not import American beef or any of these foods. There are many reasons why we have become allergic to so many foods.
But - with patience - we are getting well.
Take care.
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HG told me yesterday that they had been treating a very ill person through many bottles. Then nothing could be found any more and they stopped. About 7 months later it became obvious that something had not corrected yet and they did two more bottles. That did the trick and the person started to feel fine having no more symptoms from that time on.
Thanks for that Gigi, I have the same feeling that I may start feeling better afterthe next few bottles. Think I'm at 8. Seems a few of the very ill folks take quite some time. I heard froma few who felt nothing till like #10 and then BAM!!!!
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GiGi
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Hobo, I don't think we realize that during all the many bottles of AI, the body has to detox constantly getting rid of what had been packed away somewhere for many years, some of it over a lifetime. That takes time. Most of us are unable to grasp that quite yet - I keep reminding my husband and myself.
I know you deserve to get the BAM soon!! I think I heard mine already, but it is somewhat muffled in that I would like to hear the BAM for my husband too. But I will settle for things to come knowing that I am doing my darndest.
Best wishes to all and take care.
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Have someone edit the mountain of your posts and emails and you'll have something golden!!!!
Posts: 462 | From Newnan, GA | Registered: Aug 2004
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Hey, while I'm here, let me ask you a kinda off topic question.
I still haven't done too well with disbiosis. I'm pretty sure the bad terrain down there is creatib a majority of teh surreal symtopns.
The bio Ray stuff looks good. been taking the Liver product and I have a gut reaction (ha) that this is a very good product. I think you just kinda know. Any ideas on their prebiotics and something to do.
Thanks, Hobo
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