METALLlC BLUE
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Another additional note I'm including in my data reports are "Stomach Content, and Clothing. and Detoxification Method Pre and Post, Water type (including specific mineral)"
I treat on an empty stomach, and my clothing will consistenly remain White Cotton Tee-Shirts, with Cotton PJ Pants (Night time pants), both are loose fitting.
All of the "variables" will be strictly controlled. Only one issue will be changed with each treatment, such as the duration of a frequency. I.e. 2 mins, then moving to three minutes.
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Metallic---- You could also hold your machine closer to get a stronger hit; but you're not ready for that yet, right?
I'm just reporting that i still rife every day or other day or every third day, for a half hour or an hour. I don't notice herxes if any.
I'm still improving. Latest improvement, back of neck isn't sore. Continue to have a few light eye pains, about 3 perday, very brief. I haven't found the right frequency to hit whatever is causing the eye pains.
I don't rife on Babesia at all. I had the impression a while ago that Babesia frex don't work. So i just take a set of herbs that keep me symptom-free. If i skip too many doses, the symptoms start coming back.
Good luck ----Polly Polygonum ----or Nilufar Knotweed
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by METALLlC BLUE: [QB] Another additional note I'm including in my data reports are "Stomach Content, and Clothing. and Detoxification Method Pre and Post, Water type (including specific mineral)"
I treat on an empty stomach, and my clothing will consistenly remain White Cotton Tee-Shirts, with Cotton PJ Pants (Night time pants), both are loose fitting.
Excellent ideas! I'm looking forward to feedback when you've collected enouogh data.
My thing lately is when I'm on my fourth or fifth frequency I suddenly realize that I have the 10,000 still on from the last session - whick makes that rifing useless! Honestly I've messed up my frequencies the last two rife sessions. Last night I had some random number in there and not even sure why/how I did it?
I have the EMEM 5A and have to put in each number as I rife.
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quote:Originally posted by pamoisondelune: Metallic---- You could also hold your machine closer to get a stronger hit; but you're not ready for that yet, right?
I'm just reporting that i still rife every day or other day or every third day, for a half hour or an hour. I don't notice herxes if any.
I'm still improving. Latest improvement, back of neck isn't sore. Continue to have a few light eye pains, about 3 perday, very brief. I haven't found the right frequency to hit whatever is causing the eye pains.
I don't rife on Babesia at all. I had the impression a while ago that Babesia frex don't work. So i just take a set of herbs that keep me symptom-free. If i skip too many doses, the symptoms start coming back.
Good luck ----Polly Polygonum ----or Nilufar Knotweed
Yes, I'm aware, but maintaining very firm variables is crucial right now. 6-12 inches is more than adequate and no one really ought expect greater results from the type of machine I'm using by literally plastering their body against the bulb.
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quote:Originally posted by mojo: [QUOTE]Originally posted by METALLlC BLUE: [QB] Another additional note I'm including in my data reports are "Stomach Content, and Clothing. and Detoxification Method Pre and Post, Water type (including specific mineral)"
I treat on an empty stomach, and my clothing will consistenly remain White Cotton Tee-Shirts, with Cotton PJ Pants (Night time pants), both are loose fitting.
Excellent ideas! I'm looking forward to feedback when you've collected enouogh data.
My thing lately is when I'm on my fourth or fifth frequency I suddenly realize that I have the 10,000 still on from the last session - whick makes that rifing useless! Honestly I've messed up my frequencies the last two rife sessions. Last night I had some random number in there and not even sure why/how I did it?
I have the EMEM 5A and have to put in each number as I rife.
Yes, as do I -- one at a time. For me it is critical to take notes with every move I make. This allows rigorous testing as well as remaining organized. It is impossible for me to make a mistake with the method I have currently setup. Checks and balances exist with each know I turn.
The most you will see out of me, is a gradual progress with very specific intentions. I will be getting blood work shortly using a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel. This will aid me in evaluating the numbers objectively. I will be setting up laboratory material eventually to further enhance and see the infections we're pursuing.
This will take excruciating organization, time, and assistance from medical specialists -- to confirm that what I see, is what I see. If something is suspicious in a tissue sample, I will need to understand it and every other piece of tissue I am observing.
Treatments will be coordinated with invivo testing and invitro. Unfortunately, Invitro testing will still remain somewhat subjective -- but hardly enough to invalidate the results.
I will likely move up the ladder as Dan did, increasing power from the EMEM3D2, to another simple machine with extremely abundant power and options to simplify therapy.
The goal, like with Dan, and others on the net -- is to form a coherent plan that will likely work for everyone for "some" parts of their illness, especially if we know the exact strain, like my case with Lyme. B31.
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I was put on DHEA sups when my blood test showed I was low. I took them for a very long time. I asked my LLMD if I still needed to take them, so she ordered another blood test. My results were that I was 4x's as high as the max!
If I were to take it again I would be sure to have her test me 1-2 mos.
quote:Originally posted by Sheryl777: A lot of lymies have low DHEA. Mine was the level of an 80-year-old and I'm 60. The doc has been having me take 50 mg in the morning but as I have a rife machine, I'd like to stop the DHEA pills if possible.
Has anyone rifed to increase DHEA? Frequencies? Morning or evening? Hard to measure improvement as I believe this requires a blood test.
The herxes were intense with this combination but I had to stop the Diflucan due to GI upset and pain in the area of the liver/gallbladder. It was clearly from the Diflucan and it stopped 2 days after I quit.
For those that can handle the Diflucan this might be a useful way to increase the herx if needed. I might have started this too early in my process as I was herxing anyway.
Good Healing to All.
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This was my Fourth treatment. I waited 72 hours this time. The symptoms following the last treatment were clearly a strong Herxheimer reaction which forced me to wait an additional 24 hrs to treat for the fourth session. Below are the notes
I am attempting to hit borrelia burgdorferi:
Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi
Make: Rife Labs
Machine Model: EMEM3D2
Frequency: 612 hz
Dose: 3 min
Distance 1 foot
Location Target: Anterior of Body
Duration: 72 hours
Interval: To Be Determined
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: Kidneys, Liver, and Lymphatic system: Pekana Products: Apo-Hepa, Renelix, Iteres 20 dp of each x 3.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 5dp x 3 in 4oz Fluid, Post Water: 16oz filtered.
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment -- Itchy skin, Lightheaded, Right-Knee-Ache, Nausea, Dizzy. 12hr Night Sweats 24hr: Depression, Irritability, Fatigue, Light Sensitivity, Digestive Upset in lower quadrant, sweating, anxiety. 24hr: Sweating, Light Sensitivity, Irritability, Depression, Prevalent Herxheimer 48hr: Herxheimer Ended
Health Function Scale: 35%
Updated: Notice that the items in bold are items that are "new". It took about 24 hours before significant worsening of symptoms took place. By the 48th hour, the Hexheimer ended, and I will repeat a new treatment.
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September 16, 2010 04:19 PM: This was my Fith treatment. I waited 48 hours instead of 72, as the Herxheimer reaction cleared up faster. The symptoms following the last treatment were visible exactly 24hr after treatment, which seems to be my pattern thus far.
I am attempting to hit borrelia burgdorferi:
Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi
Make: Rife Labs
Machine Model: EMEM3D2
Frequency: 612 hz
Dose: 3 min
Distance 1 foot
Location Target: Anterior of Body
Duration: 48 hours
Interval: To Be Determined
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: Kidneys, Liver, and Lymphatic system: Pekana Products: Apo-Hepa, Renelix, Iteres 20 dp of each x 3.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 5dp x 3 in 4oz Fluid, Trace Minerals Research Iron 22mg x 1, Trace Minerals Research Vitamin D Liquid 5,000IU. Most Water: 16oz filtered.
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment -- Itchy skin, Lightheaded, Right-Knee-Ache, Nausea, Dizzy. 12hr Night Sweats 24hr: Depression, Irritability, Fatigue, Light Sensitivity, Digestive Upset in lower quadrant, sweating, anxiety. 24hr: No significant symptom changes. Fatigue and sweating continue. 36hr: Intense anxiety, insomnia, sweating, inflammation. 48hr: Flu-like symptoms, Herxheimer reaction present. Could also be another viral infection like the "real flu." 72hr later: Symptoms are clearly an oncoming flu. I will be unable to do Rife for another day or two [/b]
Health Function Scale: 35%
Updated: Notice that the items in bold are items that are "new". It took about 36hours for the symptoms to flare-up into a Herxheimer. 48hr later I'm still having a reaction. New supplements were added as a result of doctors intervention. Iron levels were low and Vitamin D was rock bottom and low normal on the "other" active Vitamin D3, therefore we're increasing the dose. The iron will be used until the end of this cycle. I will be able to weed out what supplment is causing what reaction as a result of prior use with Vitamin D, and the fact that my Anemia was pretty severe. The brand I'm using is Trace Minerals Research, I've found their products to be effective in doing what they say.
The flu did present itself the day after this Rife session written about above.
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I ran the 832 Hz Bart frequency tonight, and it caused the usual sensations in the feet, legs.
After that was done I converted it up to 26624 hz which is a higher harmonic of the same frequency.
Going by the sensation, if that means anything, she could feel the higher harmonic much more than the 832 Hz frequency.
I have gone by these sensations before, and they have been how I determined which frequencies were doing something. That is not very solid evidence, but it is something for others to try, and see if they get better or worse results.
Since 832 Hz has not totally eliminated the infection, I will monitor the long term results of this higher version of the frequency.
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Thanks for the info, Dan. I will try this frequency next time I rife for Bart.
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I rec'd my coil machine and started last week with 832 for Bart. I started very conservatively at 10 sec. with the coil right up against the abdomen wearing a T-shirt. Worked up to 45 seconds yesterday.
I can feel sensations in the gut during and immediately after the tx, but still have not noticed any kind of herx.
I plan to work my way up to 3 minutes at 832 and if that doesn't generate a herx, then I'm going to put Bart tx aside and start treating for Borrelia.
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Does anyone have a good frequency for systemic yeast? My daughter's second blood test to check
for it came back still high. Thought I would try rifing. She has the DT machine.
Thanks,
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I've used
450,465 for Candida and also added
Fungus: 665, 690,797,880,1550,1654
these frequencies came with my DT EMEM 5A
My sister sat with me once and she was farther away from the machine - she herxed for two days (she has a worse yeast issue than I do)
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Wow..amazing Mojo...thanks for the frequencies..yes ours came with a sheet also but I think I misplaced it...we will try this tonight.
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Has anyone attempted the Retrovirus program that I posted awhile back? I am about to approach that twenty day program aggressively now that I took a break..
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I am so sorry to be out of the loop.. is rife labs out of business and if so, where are folks getting EMEMs? Is DT still selling? Others?
Side note: I met two ladies at an energy healing seminar who said they were way better from lyme after using rife machines. Interestingly I sat next to one the first night there and bahind the other the following day. Both used with practioners, one using a GB4000. So there are more people than we know one this thread who are fairing well using rife machines for lyme!
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Did anyone know that this 832 frex does not mention it to be a "bart" frex? Not like that means a ton, but.....interesting. Could we be hitting something else instead?
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On p 457 of Nenah Sylver's "Rife Handbook" there are frex for Candida.
I've used the frex from JImmie Holman and Paul Dorneanu quoted there and found them helpful. They do work to keep the guts peaceful for several days.
The frex are listed in order of effectiveness, so i usu. don't get past the first one or two or three.
I can't quote them because of the copyright.
Here are some frex for YEAST, not from Nenah Sylver,; i don't know if they work:
My problem now is that i feel well enough to rife every three days instead of every day, which seems to work for most of my bugs; but my toenail fungus needs treatment every day, and i don't remember to do it. So that is a conflict.
----Polly Polygonum -----or Nilufar Knotweed
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quote:Originally posted by CD57: Did anyone know that this 832 frex does not mention it to be a "bart" frex? Not like that means a ton, but.....interesting. Could we be hitting something else instead?
I have seen 832 listed on other bart freq. list. When you start searching you will find several different list for certain illnesses.
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I use the hand and foot attachment with my EMEM.
I had a lot of anxiety around the recent need for surgery on my hand. Just don't trust most medical personell. My herbalist tested frequency 15 to stimulate clearing of emotional trauma and energy blocks. I also used some flower essences. Felt much better after a few days of rifing and managed to have the surgery without a meltdown.
herbalist also muscle tested the following for the surgery (these are for my body specifically but may be useful to others):
before and after normalize hemoglobin production 2452
stimulate blood circulation 337
stimulate clearing of emotional trauma and energy blocks 15
Also some viral frequencies that are specific to me and important to clear before surgery
After the surgery detoxification of anethesia - very important 522 146
stimulate healing of bones (due to broken bone and stainless steel pin put in temporarily) 7
Also added 10,000 for inflammation on Keeblers advice. Muscle tested it would be helpful for fluid in the right ear that I've had for a month. My doctor gave advice for it that didn't help. Did 10,000 for 5 minutes last night. Woke up with some release of fluid from the other ear but still have it in my right ear. Will try again today.
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quote:Originally posted by METALLlC BLUE: If 832 works on Bartonella, then perhaps these may work. If anyone can test them out, let us know:
823, 1664, 3328, 6656, 13312
These are hertz.
MBlue I added those freq. that you mentioned and the one from Dave plus a few of my own for bart. Had contacts on feet and head for 4 min per freq. Got dull headache and mild nausea plus a bad taste in my mouth which is always a good sign that I have torpedoed something
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quote:Originally posted by springshowers: Has anyone attempted the Retrovirus program that I posted awhile back? I am about to approach that twenty day program aggressively now that I took a break..
SS I started working with the auto channel on the 4000 for retrovirus variants and was getting some die off. Next thing you know bart started rasing it's ugly head so I have to go back and put out that fire. So I will eventually get to the program you posted although I will have to change the freq as my machine is different then the one that was used in that program.
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quote:Originally posted by jarjar: MBlue I added those freq. that you mentioned and the one from Dave plus a few of my own for bart. Had contacts on feet and head for 4 min per freq. Got dull headache and mild nausea plus a bad taste in my mouth which is always a good sign that I have torpedoed something
Let us know what happens after each treatment.
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I have to add that I'm taking other things besides rifing.
My guts are completely normal this week, like several years ago, even eating sugar, but i don't think it was from rifing. I'm attributing it to high-dose Allimax. Usu. i take 900 mg /day. This week i was taking 1800, 2700, or even 3600 mg /day. Expensive, but i think it killed the candida, for a while, at least.
Also i've been taking "Carnivora", a brand of Venus Fly Trap, for about a month. I think it helps. I think it makes me feel better. I'm taking 3 pills, once or twice a day on empty stomach.
I'll get a blood test this week to see if the Carnivora helped raise my very low monocyte count.
I am also rifing on a GB-4000.
PS i'm also taking Pectasol-C on empty stomach at night,; cilantro drops,; and AlphaLipoic acid 100 mg with morning pills; those three are to remove putative mercury.
----Polly Polygonum ----or Nilufar Knotweed
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Springshowers -- I have been feeling really good lately, so I have some vacations planned & will be heading back to the States for 6 weeks for my sisters wedding.
I have decided to start your retrovirus program at the beginning of the yr. At that time, I can afford to deal with a bad herx.
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Springshowers, I missed where you mentioned earlier about treating the retrovirus for 20 sessions? Can you give me a link to information on rifing for that. I read on this forum that someone said you divide the frequencies into 4 sessions of 2 to 3 minutes each but other than that I can't find anything else about rifing for this virus. Thanks.
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September 21, 2010 05:07 PM: This was my Sixth treatment. I waited 96 hours as a result of the flu. I did not use the machine to treat this flu.
I am attempting to hit borrelia burgdorferi:
Purpose: Kill Borrelia Burgdorferi
Make: Rife Labs
Machine Model: EMEM3D2
Frequency: 612 hz
Dose: 3 min
Distance 1 foot
Location Target: Anterior of Body
Duration: 96 hours
Interval: To Be Determined
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: Kidneys, Liver, and Lymphatic system: Pekana Products: Apo-Hepa, Renelix, Iteres 20 dp of each x 3.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 5dp x 3 in 4oz Fluid, Trace Minerals Research Iron 22mg x 1, Trace Minerals Research Vitamin D Liquid 5,000IU. Post Water: 16oz filtered w 1/2 Sodium Bicarbonate.
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment -- Pressure in head and ear. 24hr: irritability, depression, mood change, fatigue, increased pain.
Health Function Scale: 35%
I suffered a flu from the last session on the 16th of September 2010, thru today September 21st and so I was unable to do treatment. I am unable to tell exactly what symptoms followed treatment as a result of the flu.
Update: 12hr after treatment. I slept extremely well in comparison to most other nights. However, I still took my typical 1mg Melatonin and 2mg Ativan. Even still, it is very rare that I don't wake 10-30 times. I woke around 4-5 times and felt rested. I didn't wake the first time until about 5 a.m., so most of the "waking" kept ocurring close to morning. 24hr after treatment irritability set in. I felt anger and frustration, as well as depression. The mood change was noticeable and I could tell when it was happening. 96hr: Facial Pain, Digestive upset 120hr: Herxheimer Reaction Ended
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quote:Originally posted by BTTaylor: Springshowers, I missed where you mentioned earlier about treating the retrovirus for 20 sessions? Can you give me a link to information on rifing for that. I read on this forum that someone said you divide the frequencies into 4 sessions of 2 to 3 minutes each but other than that I can't find anything else about rifing for this virus. Thanks.
Scroll down about 1/2 way on pg 19. Also read link she posted at bottom for more detail.
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Metallic Blue: What were your flu symptoms? You may already have had this thought, but I'm wondering if your flu could have been a herx from your last treatment? I have had flu-like symptoms as a herx, and I know it is not uncommon.
Glad you are feeling better though...and good luck with your continued treatments.
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Chaps: Good luck with getting started! I'll be interested to hear how it goes for you.
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quote:Originally posted by LymeAware: Metallic Blue: What were your flu symptoms? You may already have had this thought, but I'm wondering if your flu could have been a herx from your last treatment? I have had flu-like symptoms as a herx, and I know it is not uncommon.
Glad you are feeling better though...and good luck with your continued treatments.
At first I considered that until it progressed. It was definitely the flu. Coughing like crazy, stuffy nose, muscle aches, bed ridden, high fever, contagious, etc.
My mother, Step father have it too.
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For flu, try LOMATIUM. It's an anti-viral herb. I took it, and it totally, permanently wiped out my Herpes simplex lip sores.
It's in the parsley family and grows on dry Western plains. It has historical significance--- it saved the Washoe Indian tribe from the 1918 pandemic flu.
It tastes like parsley. You can buy the extract on the internet; i did.
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Polly -- Thanks for the info on Lomatium. Is this something that you take everyday? I am going to look it up now.
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I'm going to get it as well! Thanks Polly!
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Thanks LymeAware. Am up to 1 1/2 minutes on on the abdomen at 832 for Bart. Still no herx.
Starting with Bart treatment first without a firm dx because I was told that if present, Bart can reproduce rapidly and more damage if Lyme load is taken down first.
Haven't had the stabbing pain in the feet or legs symptoms. Only Bart symptom I've had is constipation, but that could be from a lot of other things. And the constipation hasn't really been that bad lately. I've been having regular movements every morning.
Hoping to rule out Bart soon and move on to treating for Borrelia.
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I do confer with the idea that Bart reproduces quickly. Far more quickly than Lyme.
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Thanks jarjar for your response on the frequencies for XMRV. I have printed those out as well as sending for the Char B ones. My question on the Stone Circle ones is - There are a lot of ones on lupus and fibro which I do not have so would a person use those frequencies?
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Also wanted to report that after about 3 months rifing for lyme, and 1 month rifing for babesia with my doug coil, I'm definitely noticing improvements. It's slow, but I'm definitely doing better.
I'm not as completely reliant on my walker due to some more strength in my legs and better coordination, I have less frequent periods of body spasms/seizures/tremors, when I do get the spams they are much less severe in intensity, and I notice less body pain.
It will take time, and I'm still quite ill, but I feel very clear that I'm on the right track. This is good!
MB: I see...yes it sounds very clear that it was the flu then. I'm glad you are feeling better. Sounds like it was a doozy.
Chaps: Interesting to hear what you say about Bart. I think i may have it as well but haven't done any treatment for it yet. Been starting with Babesia and Lyme. But, I'll have to think more about that now, hearing what you've said.
It's so hard to decide what's most important to target first in this complicated landscape. I think it's great though that through this process you will know more clearly if bart is an issue or not. Best of luck.
quote:Originally posted by BTTaylor: Thanks jarjar for your response on the frequencies for XMRV. I have printed those out as well as sending for the Char B ones. My question on the Stone Circle ones is - There are a lot of ones on lupus and fibro which I do not have so would a person use those frequencies?
Springshowers is the only one that has worked with the Stone Circle retrovirus protocol. She might be of more help. Also that study was done in the 90's and it's pretty much assumed in the lyme community that Fibro pain is associated with lyme most of the time these days. You might want to PM Springshowers about any questions. I was dissapointed that the site said they were going to post an updated retroviral protocol in 2002 and didn't. I even emailed about it and got no response.
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Summer--- LOMATIUM, you asked if people take it every day. If you are sick, yes, every day.
It takes one pound of fresh LOMATIUM herb to treat 3 days of 1918 pandemic flu.
I took it every day for a year, when i was on antibiotics and had annoying lyme etc. symptoms.
I hadn't taken it for long, when i noticed my herpes lip sores ceased. I forget how long it took, several weeks? But i kept taking it for lyme, for a year.
Then Stephen Buhner said that it is a strong herb, only take it for a month. I posted a Q. saying i had taken it for a year already and had no plans to stop. He replied, A., that if i have that kind of tolerance, go for it!
I just keep it mostly as a backup now, in case of virus. Apparently you should take milk thistle with it, if it is so strong and needs some protection. I always took milk thistle for other reasons, because of antibiotics.
It certainly is a blessing not to have those dratted lip sores any more.
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Hi all!
Haven't been here in quite a while, and just spent an hour going over posts I hadn't read. Like Asummers and Springshowers I've been doing really well and out and about just living life. I want to give others hope but at the same time feel guilty for talking about how great I've been feeling.
I still do have some symptoms and am having somewhat of a flair now (positive it's because I've been so slack with treatments lately), but I'm functional and happy and working and if that's as good as I ever get that's more than fine with me!
Metallic so glad that you're finally using Rife! Dan thanks for the info on the higher harmonic Bartonella frequency - I will definitely be trying it and I'll let you know how it goes. 357 was surprisingly very effective for me for Bart too as was 832 but you already know about that one.
Happy rifing!
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I will have to try 357 Hz for Bart. I did run 26624 Hz again for Bart, and had no immediate reaction. Since I ran it a few days ago, I would have expected some reaction since it seems to reproduce pretty fast.
832 Hz usually brought sensations in the feet, but using 26624 Hz the first time brought sensations in the feet, spine and other areas that were not felt previously. Nothing this time.
I also ran Char Boehm's first ten DNA frequencies for Lyme converted to the 20,000 and 30,000 range of frequencies. A little pain was felt in one hand, with one frequency and that was it.
No symptoms of Lyme or Bart or any other infection. The Stomach problem is now a thing of the past. In retrospect it seems that most, if not all of the Stomach problems were caused by H-Pylori. It goes to show that we are not just dealing with Lyme, and that makes this far more difficult.
I now can understand why it has taken so long to get this far. Four infections to resolve, and there could have been more. Some people probably do have more.
I just have to keep at it, and hope to kill every last bit of Lyme and Bart. I think these are difficult to get rid of entirely because we have little help from the immune system. It seems to be the case for stealth infections.
Just speculation.
Dan
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I just put 357 on my list, too!
So nice to hear that several of us are doing so well....
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WOW - look what this thread has turned into! AWESOME!
I just popped in to see what has been happening and saw this so I figured I'd add my update as well:
Used rife years ago(its documented here through a search of my name - secondtimearound)along with other treatments and I got better.
Was bitten again this time last year and got sick again: did antibiotics for a few days and then rife with my coil machine and emem 3d (one of the early ones) and both worked for me(herxed off of both).
Major detox was also a big part of both recoveries and I'm happy to say that I have been 100% since January. November and December were rough with the herxing but after that I only rifed about once every 3 weeks and lately not at all.
I can be reached through the private messages since they send a notice to my personal email if anyone needs to chat.
I'm sorry to be so brief but I just wanted to let everyone know that rife worked for me on two different occasions. Search my posts early on in this thread and the medical questions section for my history.
All My Best, Scott
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You brought up a critically important point, and that is detoxing.
I do not have a lot of experience with this, since it was not a big problem in our case, but I do think it is one of the biggest road blocks to recovery for many people.
On the other hand, it may not have been a problem for us because we used Turmeric, Ginger, Krill oil and other anti-inflammatory supplements from the beginning.
Your post also shows that you can combine antibiotics and frequency treatments to get better. Use whatever works to get functional again. Do not marry yourself to your treatment. If your treatment is not working, find another, but also give it a chance to work.
We did not have much available for treatment since we had no positive test. That is not always the case, so use what you can get. We got lucky and found that frequency treatments worked well in our case. Good thing since we had to go it alone, with no physician. We would gladly have gone the antibiotic route in the beginning, if that would have been an option.
Thank you for the update, and I hope you can give us some pointers as to what worked best for you.
Dan
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Great Messages from ALL
YEAH! Yes Great!!
Rife has worked for so many in so many ways.
But Yes.. yes.. yes.. Remember to Detox unless your very lucky. You will know it when your herxes are strong and long and your having a rough time recovering or you do not feel better but just worse and worse with treatment.
I started also a Detox support thread at the same time I started this thread because I was doing them hand in hand.!!
Still am but not near as aggressive....but Detox is always part of what I do and It may have to be that way for a long time.. We will see.
I do not want to risk another regression of this disease and I just want to keep feeling better and not be afraid of going backwards so I keep working hard.
Blessings All
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MB From what I am reading your doing only the one frequency? Thats amazing your getting such die off and herx from just 612. Maybe I am not understanding.
Have you considered running the organ supports and detox numbers posted at the beginning of this thread?
It sure made a difference for me to have those going after any treatment .. period.
I still use them ..
Good Luck and hope your flu bug is gone.
Its that flu that made me regress in 2008 and I am still so fearful of that and trying to get stronger and stronger and to help make sure I do not get it again and if I do it do not have a resurgence of infections that are being controlled now... and that are still latent.
I believe that is is so very hard to get rid of this completely. I know Dan is trying so hard.
If I have to do maintenance rife for ever then that is how it goes.. but well... its a tough bug and bugs.. this disease is complicated and complex and not black and white.
Also.. make sure to detox as much as you can.!!!
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quote:Originally posted by springshowers: [QB] MB From what I am reading your doing only the one frequency? Thats amazing your getting such die off and herx from just 612. Maybe I am not understanding.
Have you considered running the organ supports and detox numbers posted at the beginning of this thread?
I'm going to probably move onto adding another frequency shortly, either exchanging one (ending 612, and or adding a detox frequency).
I'm not certain yet how to proceed but I'll get to it. If you had to pick one detox frequency to begin with, which would you use?
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