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Phoiph
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Jolley...

Some airlines ship medical equipment for free, and don't count it as one of your bags. As you said, it should be packed in the original box/packing. I would check with the airlines about size/weight restrictions, insurance, etc.

That said, it is a gamble to ship OR send it via airlines...as it is supposed to be kept upright at all times...and we all know how that goes.

Another option might be to rent a concentrator at your destination if there is an oxygen equipment supplier nearby. Of course, you would have to make sure to get one with enough LPM and PSI...

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susank...

Since it is the same price from Oxyhealth, why not just get it directly from them...then you will know you are getting the right size, etc.?

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Hi, Phoiph -

So sorry to have missed your call! Like WillBeatThis and others on this board, we appreciate all you contribute, and look forward to talking with you soon!

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Any thoughts or comments on the Lyme MD's thinking that 2 hours or more per day is needed? He was addressing cognitive issues in his post. Just wondering what people on this thread thought?
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Found this article - do the calculations look correct?

http://www.pittsburghalternativehealth.com/services/hyperbaric.html

I'm trying to find out how much O2 comes from:

Diving:
-No supplemental O2
-O2 tubing loose in chamber
-Nasal Cannula
-Mask

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Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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soccermama...

I disagree unless perhaps you are diving without breathing supplemental 02 via concentrator; (i.e., just using pressure).

For those that haven’t read it, I will post this article by Dr. Harch once again. He is the HBOT specialist that has researched and treated cognitive/neuro conditions with mHBOT for over 20 years. The article discusses concerns regarding higher pressures and length of sessions in regard to cognitive/neurological issues:

More is Better: The Recurrent Illusion of Higher Pressure HBOT in Chronic Brain Injury, by Dr. Paul Harch: www.wisconsinhyperbarics.com/research-pdf/more-is-better.pdf

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Susan...

The calculations look good on paper, but the percentage of tissue saturation varies from person to person, and day to day.

Without supplemental 02, the pressure alone will raise the 02 level in the chamber form approximately 21% to 24%.

Laying the tubing down in the chamber (not wearing the mask), will raise the 02 level in the chamber to approximately 29%.

Although an oxygen concentrator might put out 93% O2, the amount of available oxygen delivered directly through a simple mask is approximately 40-60% at 5-10 LPM, and 20-40% through a cannula.

Of course, these numbers represent only the amount of 02 that is delivered through the mask or cannula, for example, however the available amount of 02 is greatly increased when the 02 is breathed under pressure (as the article states).

That said, the amount of actual tissue saturation will still vary.

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quote:
Originally posted by soccermama:
Any thoughts or comments on the Lyme MD's thinking that 2 hours or more per day is needed? He was addressing cognitive issues in his post. Just wondering what people on this thread thought?

Here are some random thoughts on this issue...

First off there are no studies that I know of that test this hypothesis.

Even if there were, I suspect that each individual would have a different tolerance, not only to the time spent in the chamber but to the pressure and O2 concentration.

Finally and I think this is an important concept to wrap one's head around; HBOT is a hormetic intervention. Look up HORMESIS. Basically it says that the treatment in high doses is toxic but at the proper dose it stimulates the body to heal.

Other examples are sauna, cold exposure, Ozone, etc.

If you think of HBOT as hormetic, the varied responses to the treatment seen on this thread make perfect sense.

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Lyme MD has told me that since 1.3 isn't as strong as 1.5 staying longer in a home chamber could possibly be equivalent to the 1.5 chambers which in his experience have been more successful.

THAT is his reasoning. I think too it depends on your condition. I have a delicate nervous system and he has been more cautious about the length of time with me.

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Pho - thanks. Just wanted to know for my own info.
Also after mentioning to my allergist/immuno that I was getting a chamber - he asked if 100% O2 and I said no. I could not tell him what percentage on the O2. Felt kind of stupid about that.

When researching hyperbarics and O2 - mostly it's mentioned 100%. I had to explain to the doctor that I was getting a "mild" chamber - as I think he was getting a bit concerned.

As an aside - he is a scuba diver.

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Hi Everyone! I just wanted to share an update on my son, Cullen. He has just completed week 9 of diving and is showing great improvements in his GI health and brain clearing. Cullen is 21 and has had a spectacularly clean diet for 8 years. He has not used drug therapy and the herbals we tried, he abandoned within the first week because they gave him GI distress. He is diving for 1 hour each day and is up to 15 minutes with the mask and has added several foods to his limited diet and is more interactive and conversational. He spends less time in his Media Room and more time with us now. We see the healing and he said he feels it too. I am so grateful to have found this modality and the gift of knowing Phoiph who has brought this into our lives. I hope you all experience the same healing.

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Phoiph... Thank you! Your call and help has been a true gift. I will be staying in touch!

Foxy - do you go to Lyme MD? How are you doing overall with your treatment. I'm so glad to see he supports this modality- I've always thought a lot of him.

Karen- How truly wonderful for Cullen and your family... continue to keep us posted please!

Digby- thanks for the info on Hormesis!

To all that contribute... THANK you! WBT

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Thank you, willbeatthis, I surely will.

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I have been researching the "Borrelia cannot survive" levels.

I am confused - Fife said something like 30-160 mm Hg?

There's a devil in the detail here - as that range looks close to levels w/o using a chamber.

I have seen mm HG expressed:

No chamber,
1.3 ATA with or without supplement O2,
1.5 ATA and up with 100% O2.

Has it been determined which of these can/cannot have a negative effect on Borrelia?

Anyone have the data on the levels?

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Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
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IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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susank...

Here's a link to the study you're referring to:

Effects of Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy on Lyme Disease: hbotxofpalmbeach.com/study_pdfs/Lyme-Fife

Here's a quote from that study:

"...the spirochete could not survive in an oxygen partial pressure of 160-mm Hg (the partial pressure of oxygen in air), but could survive in a partial pressure of 30-mm Hg (which is the partial pressure of 4% oxygen at 1 atmosphere, absolute (ground level pressure). Therefore, it seems clear that a lethal level of oxygen for the spirochete falls somewhere between 30 mm Hg, and 160mm Hg.

It also is known that while the inspired partial pressure of oxygen is approximately 160 mm Hg, at the tissue level, the partial pressure of oxygen normally is approximately 30-35 mm Hg.
Thus, it would not be expected that breathing air at ground level would cause any damage to the spirochete..."

Unfortunately, although this study determined a range of 02 levels that can kill spirochetes (using higher pressures), it didn't attempt to determine the lowest level of tissue saturation necessary to kill spirochetes.

To further muddy the waters, tissue saturation levels vary from person to person and day to day, as do other variables, such as breathing rates, elevation, etc., making the levels difficult to determine in the body.

I do think it is somewhat misguided to focus too much on the "kill-spirochete" aspect of mHBOT (although by my rough calculations it does fall in the vicinity of the maim/kill range). More important is the engagement and empowerment of the formidable immune system to do its job again...

This is likely why some people have become well using only pressure, with no supplemental 02. The saturation levels would not technically become high enough to kill spirochetes, however, they may be raised high enough to turn on healing genes and fortify the immune system, etc.

On the flip side, some people with Lyme who have done short term, higher pressures (HBOT, not mHBOT) have not maintained their gains. IMO, although they may be killing spirochetes, they may not be getting the long term benefits of healing the immune and other body systems to fight the battle necessary for the long haul.

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Tks Pho.
The "kill" aspect had not been my focus - but.. reading about mHBOT and CP - had to wonder.
(Cerebral palsy).
You probably know the study to which I will refer - the HBOT and the "sham" controls.
(Doctors Mukherjee, Collet etc).
HBOT vs HBAT.
HBOT with supplemental O2.
HBAT ambient air.
Supposedly the outcome of the "study" showed no significant difference for those children - HBOT vs HBAT.
What could that mean for pathogens? For fibro, pain syndromes etc.?

Also - for me - I have the added burden of having an immune deficiency. I have stopped IVIG/SCIG for a few months. The doctor wants to do testing off gammaglobulin replacement. I know my baseline total IGG. (low as well as three subclasses).
Anyway - will be curious to see what my IGG level will be in Sept.
Will mHBOT have done something - like help my immune system?
Or have incapacitated (decapitated!!!) some spirochetes -perhaps helping my immune system?
Will see.......

Point: having a very compromised immune system - well - complicates things. I don't know if my immune system can be fortified.

By my own choice I am not taking antibiotics or doing IVIG. This is risky business - but I could not tolerate the ABx anymore.

I seem to have trouble with the small amount of supplemental O2 - so will be diving sometimes with it - and sometimes not.

I certainly feel like I am herxing.
It feels like something is dying.

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Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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Just pressure alone raises the amount of 02 concentration within the chamber.

The fact that both groups...those using just pressure, and those using pressure with supplemental 02, showed benefit over short term treatment suggests that general healing reactions can occur with even slight increases in 02.

The few people I know that have used and benefitted by pressure alone have done sessions 2x per day (although I wouldn't suggest this when using supplemental 02). Those people had pathogens, "fibro"-like syndromes, pain,cognitive issues, etc.

Possibly, it is a matter of dosage...

It is possible that 2x per day with just pressure may be roughly equivalent to 1x a day with pressure and supplemental 02...but this would be difficult to measure, with all the variables from person to person.

Of course I believe your immune system can be fortified!

I think it is most important right now to be consistent with your diving, rather than be overly concerned about the supplemental 02 via mask. You are still receiving benefit with just pressure, especially if you are flowing the 02 in the chamber.

Of course...diet and reducing "body burdens"/exposure to toxins as much as possible is huge...

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Phoiph,

Thank you for all the time you spend answering posts and helping others.

If someone isn't able to tolerate 02 thru a mask but can tolerate it flowing into the chamber near their head, would diving once a day for 1.5 hours be a good treatment plan compared to two one hour dives w/out 02?

My preference would be to do it all at once but I don't want to sacrifice benefit.

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Foxy - do you go to Lyme MD? How are you doing overall with your treatment. I'm so glad to see he supports this modality- I've always thought a lot of him.

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Yes Willbeatthis, I have been seeing Lyme MD for probably a year now.

He is a very kind person, and does what he can, and is available which means a lot to me.

Currently, I am at 233 dives. The first three months were not full dives.

I am now off all antibiotics which is exciting. Not sure what would have happened without the mHBOT but I certainly am not worsening.

It is really hard to tell if it is really doing anything, because if it is working it is terribly slow in my case.

On a good day I think it is helping. On a bad day, I get discouraged.

overall I am doing as well as I ever have. I am encouraged enough to keep at it.

I am now doing one and a half hour dives because that is what my Dr. told me to do. not sure I noticed much difference. If anything it is better than before, but that might have happened anyway.

Sorry, there is no definitive report. That is why I haven't written in for a while. [bow]

Hope this helps people!! Monti, how are you doing?

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Susank, consider that a boost to your immune system can cause a herx too. I think we are missing the mark by focusing on trying to kill Borrelia.

Enhancing immune function is a much better way to remove bugs and improve health.

Having said that, I do think that testing for and treatment of co-infections might be necessary, but only to lower the bacterial load, making the immune system's job a little easier.

I did see that you have an "immune deficiency" but I can't comment on that without more information.

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At dive 150 I decided to add 02 back to my dives, tube to the side. That went well so I decided to add 15 minutes mask time at dive 170. I felt a little fatigue the first day but decided to push through. After day three of 15 min mask time in a row, my energy was so zapped I could hardly get out of the chamber. I decided to ditch the mask (let 02 flow to the side) and pulse using the mask every other day. By day 178, I removed the supplemental 02.

Forward to today, dive 190, twelve days since I unplugged the supplemental oxygen and I'm having my best day since starting out! I may add 02 again with tubing to the side at dive 200. But, for now, I'm losing the mask. I'll take the slow, steady route. Or, I may consider longer dives. I need physical assistance getting in and out of the chamber, inconveniencing someone else to help me twice a day is not realistic.

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Curious if anyone that has had difficulty adding supplemental oxygen has done their genetics/23andme?

If so, what is your SOD status?

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I tried my first mHBOT session at a local chiropractor's office yesterday. I believe it was an Oxyhealth Respiro with supplemental oxygen via a mask.
I was in for 60 minutes and I think it did trigger a mild herx. However I feel pretty good today.

I've been researching them a bit more and came across this statement:

"A typical mild HBT session will involve pressurisation to 1.3 ATA breathing 30% oxygen for about one hour. Under these conditions, each breath has an oxygen pressure of 0.4 ATA (296 mmHg) and the arterial pressure is likely to reach a more modest 0.3 ATA (230 mmHg). This is the same oxygen pressure that can be attained by breathing about 35% oxygen at sea level. To put it another way – this amount of oxygen can easily be achieved with out the use of the chamber at all."

http://wesleyhyperbaric.com.au/treatment-information/for-patients/therapeutic-hbot-v-mild-hbt-synopsis/

Can anyone confirm if this is accurate? Has anyone tried breathing oxygen without a chamber?

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quote:
Originally posted by Monti:
Phoiph,

Thank you for all the time you spend answering posts and helping others.

If someone isn't able to tolerate 02 thru a mask but can tolerate it flowing into the chamber near their head, would diving once a day for 1.5 hours be a good treatment plan compared to two one hour dives w/out 02?

My preference would be to do it all at once but I don't want to sacrifice benefit.

Hi Monti...

Thanks for the kind words...

Given the option, my vote would be diving once per day w/02 flowing vs. 2x per day without...

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quote:
Originally posted by project:
I tried my first mHBOT session at a local chiropractor's office yesterday. I believe it was an Oxyhealth Respiro with supplemental oxygen via a mask.
I was in for 60 minutes and I think it did trigger a mild herx. However I feel pretty good today.

I've been researching them a bit more and came across this statement:

"A typical mild HBT session will involve pressurisation to 1.3 ATA breathing 30% oxygen for about one hour. Under these conditions, each breath has an oxygen pressure of 0.4 ATA (296 mmHg) and the arterial pressure is likely to reach a more modest 0.3 ATA (230 mmHg). This is the same oxygen pressure that can be attained by breathing about 35% oxygen at sea level. To put it another way – this amount of oxygen can easily be achieved with out the use of the chamber at all."

http://wesleyhyperbaric.com.au/treatment-information/for-patients/therapeutic-hbot-v-mild-hbt-synopsis/

Can anyone confirm if this is accurate? Has anyone tried breathing oxygen without a chamber?

project...

Congratulations on your first dive...

Just like anything else, when you research HBOT/mHBOT, you have to take into consideration that there are 2 sides to every story, and information may be presented in a way that supports one side or the other.

In the case of mHBOT vs. HBOT, there are often 2 "camps". A more extreme faction of the high pressure, HBOT camp has an investment in selling clinical HBOT sessions, and would very much like to discourage the use of mild, home chambers for obvious reasons.

Of course, certain conditions respond to higher pressures, others to lower...both are beneficial in the appropriate situation.

The statement you quoted is referring to the use of mild pressure with some supplemental 02 (i.e., a mild chamber with 30% O2 would be equivalent to flowing the 02 into the chamber and mixing with compressed room air, but not actually wearing the mask), and compares this to breathing slightly more 02 (35% from an oxygen source) at sea level (without additional pressure).

It states, "...this amount of oxygen can easily be achieved with out the use of the chamber at all..."

IMO, even if the math were correct, there are a few reasons why this is not a linear comparison. The major reason I see is that when someone breathes supplemental 02 (without pressure) even at sea level, the blood (hemoglobin) can only carry so many oxygen molecules before it becomes saturated. At that point, there are many variables (e.g., PH level, temperature, circulation, etc.) that determine how much of that 02 will reach the tissues.

On the other hand, when 02 is breathed while under pressure, once the hemoglobin fills to capacity, the additional oxygen molecules are forced into plasma, spinal fluid, tissues, etc., by the pressure, greatly increasing the likelihood of 02 perfusion into the tissues.

Oxygen starved tissue is very sensitive to small changes in oxygen tension, and many healing reactions can begin to occur on the cellular level when hypoxic tissues begin to receive 02. This is one of the many reasons why there is an advantage to breathing 02 under pressure (vs. supplemental 02 alone), as there appears to be an independent effect.

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In case anyone is interested in following Lymeboy's progress with mHBOT:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/133189?

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project: I used supplemental O2 for years with no benefit beyond relieving my air hunger for a little while. mHBOT however has had a very significant benefit and seems to be actually healing me.
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Thanks Phoiph and Digby for your information.

I'm considering trying to go the mHBOT route to get the last 10-20% and achieve full recovery and am wondering if you can tell me if this might be a good strategy.

I had late stage chronic Lyme for 20+ years, started treating four years ago and haven't been working for the past two years.

I have made a lot of progress over the 4 years and can do vigorous exercise, my brain works fairly well again, and all in all I'm feeling okish. I still have some residual neurological symptoms like mild anxiety and depression. I also feel a bit toxic and need to use the sauna 2/week to eliminate this. I'm currently treating for parasites and hoping this will net me a few more %.

My issue is that I'm going to run out of savings unless I can go back to work within a year or so. I could probably work now if I stopped my current treatment, but the herxes from Rife are still quite bad. I can't really see being able to work while using it until I've got the bacterial load down to the point of not herxing at all anymore. But I'm not sure if this is realistically achievable within the next year.

So one option I'm considering is getting an mHBOT setup and then continuing to use it when I return to work. My question is, does mHBOT work relatively gently or do you get occasional bad herxes from it? I need a treatment modality that will continue the healing and prevent relapsing while only causing mild, predictable herxes.

Thanks!

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Project: mHBOT can be adjusted to your needs by altering the pressure, frequency, time in the chamber and the amount and delivery method of the O2.

If you get a chamber you will find your sweet spot where you rarely used, but slowly improve.

BTW, I found Rife treatments to be too intense for me.

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Hello Everyone. I will post an update soon. I am about 425 dives along.

A question for Phoiph - I did look through the posts on this thread to see what you did for diet and I did find some posts. I will try to make some bone broth even though my bone broth tastes like pee.

Would you mind sharing what type of GI issues? Maybe you don't want to give details. Constipation? Pain?

I have severe GI issues and Ridiculous constipation. I'm probably going to see a specialist and get some images to see if there is blockage.

I am currently on a modified version of the Wahl's protocol, about 6 cups of vegetables and Paleo. I don't eat processed food and I only drink water.

I am considering trying the plan that Digby is on, but I'm not sure how that will be on constipation. I ordered the book for that plan.

I believe that once I get the GI and Bladder issues solved, I may be on my way out of the abyss.

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project...

As Digby mentioned, you have control over how quickly you work up to speed. Going slowly and working up gradually in the beginning is key to not having severe reactions. IMO, herxing is overrated!

Once up to the full protocol, commitment and consistency becomes crucial.

For me, it was definitely a 2 step forward, 1 step back process...

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Haley...

I'm really not sure there are words to describe how bad my GI issues were.

You asked for details, but I apologize in advance if this is "TMI"...(you can't make this stuff up!)

My stomach continually felt as if it was filled with glass shards, and that a giant had his fist shoved into my solar plexus. I hunched over my stomach constantly with a heating pad, and could never take a full breath. Eating was sheer torture. I force fed myself 3x a day, each time with my head on the table, sobbing, and wondering how I was going to do it again (5-6 of the same foods for 5 years due to severe allergies/intolerances). If I tried to eat a different food, the vibrations in my nervous system/gut would increase to the point of wanting to crawl out of my skin. Then, I would have a night from hell, like on a "bad trip". Retching every morning, gastroparesis, and NO stomach acid, Whatever I managed to get down just sat there undigested until the next time...

I remember when I had the first inkling that something was healing in my gut. I was in my chamber (several months after beginning treatment), and I felt the first hunger pang that I had felt in years. I was so overjoyed at that basic sensation...I had totally forgotten what it felt like to actually want to eat...

Once the stomach acid started flowing again, I was able to gradually add more foods, and things began to slowly improve.

I do think the bone broth kept me alive. (Mine probably tasted much like yours but I didn't have much sense of taste at the time.) Once I started absorbing again I feel it really began to help.

I'm happy to say that I have no gut issues anymore, although I continue to eat as cleanly as possible.

Have you seen these resources?

Bone Broth Recipe/Info from the Weston A. Price Foundation: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/broth-is-beautiful/


The Healthy Home Economist: Stock vs. Broth…Are You Confused?
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/stock-vs-broth-are-you-confused

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Thank you Phoiph - much appreciated. I will check out those links. I'm sure that I am making it wrong.

I appreciate all of the information. I really think this will be huge if I can solve this problem.

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Haley I think so too! That may just be what tips the scale for you [Smile]
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Thank you Monti. I hope so. I now have a sciatic nerve issue. I have never had anything like this before. I have no idea how it happened. It's soooo painful.

It seems like anytime I feel that I will emerge from Lyme that I get hit with something else. It fees like a test sometimes. So crazy.

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Bone broth is incredibly healing to the GI system and aids in the repair of leaky gut. It is a very nutrient dense food. If you visit The container Store, you can pick up small serving sized glass containers to freeze the broth in.

Applying magnesium gel topically helps with sciatic nerves. It relaxes muscles surrounding the nerve.

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Hi all - a couple of questions.

Re: Broth

I need to do this again - would like easy "recipes" for bone marrow broth and vegetable broth.
A friend who is clueless about this will have to make this for me. (I'm pretty clueless/helpless about this myself as I can't/don't cook). My sister had been making broth for the both of us - but she was recently in a terrible car accident
- spinal fractures etc - so cooking is out of the question. I very much wish she could do mHBOT. If I had the money I would buy her the one that is wheelchair accessible.

Re: Dysautonomia/POTS and mHBOT

Today a friend of a friend called me.
Her daughter has Dysautonomia/POTS - has been housebound for four years - is still a teenager.
So sad. Lyme negative but have suggested they test with Igenex.
Anyway, wondering - would mHBOT be helpful or contra-indicated for POTS?

To mention - I have been diving - not daily - depending on ears and how I feel. Back to using supplemental O2 with tubing loose in the chamber.

I was having trouble zipping/scootching on my bad back - to end up with head under the window.
I figured out I don't need to have my head under the window - (do I?) - which eliminates scootching the length of the chamber. I dive with my eyes closed anyway - don't need to see out. I can also now dive w/o seeing the gauge. I have not bought a mattress yet - for now use small pillows and put under my back (lumbar area) a hot water bottle - which really helps. I don't use hot water - but anyway - it acts like a mini waterbed under my back.

This has been a rough past few weeks - but I am soldiering on. Being hopeful.

Thanks all.

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SusanK, you can buy bone marrow broth at places like sprouts.

I just through in frozen veggies (soup mix from Kroger), pre-cooked chicken, rice, and spices.

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Thanks - did not know that about Sprouts.

I just remembered the name of the veggie broth - can't believe I remembered it. Bieler's broth. !!!???

I hope it's something like a clear soup - ie throw away the veggies like one throws away the marrow bone. Or else the veggies pureed or something. I have trouble chewing veggies.

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I have POTS and my condition has not worsened. I personally have found low dose hydrocorstisone to work like a charm.
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I have had my chamber for about 6 weeks and have already found myself in there with several big spiders and one Hawaiian centipede. (Despite my house being very clean!)

Does anyone know if the Oxyhealth chambers function the same without the blue fabric cover? I think the bugs would not be able to walk up the white rubber/plastic stuff.

I'll keep the chamber zipped up for now, but I don't want to create a moldy environment in there.

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Now that you mention this, I realize that behind the cover would be a great place for spiders.

The cover just makes it look friendlier and helps protect the vinyl from scuffs, so you can safely take it off. It doesn't do anything else unless you have the Quamvis chamber, which has belts on the cover.

I'm a pretty tough guy but diving with spiders would freak me out. Hopefully it was just a little dust spider and not the scary ones.

Oh and you might try putting a glue trap in the chamber to collect any that are hiding under the mattress. Good Luck!

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Does someone on this thread know if home mHBOT chambers are legal in Canada? I came across a blog post stating that they are not available for home use. Can't find anything definitive stating that they are or are not.
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Yes they are used in Canada and there is a dealer in Canada that I have purchased accessories from Jean-Francois Tremblay.

http://oxynova.ca/hyperbaric-oxygen-chamber-for-sale/oxynova-840-1-3-ata/

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Thanks Peimomma
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Hi Everyone...

Many times I'm asked about people's progress who don't post on LymeNet.

I wanted to share an email I received a few days ago from a father who's 30-ish daughter has been ill for several years with suspected Lyme, high Epstein Barr titers, surgeries, etc., etc. etc. She has been through many protocols without success.

These kinds of emails are so rewarding and are a humbling reminder of the power of this therapy, and the need to raise awareness and educate others as much as possible. We never know who we might reach. After all, if we don't do it, who will?

"hi *****
I hope this finds you in good health and spirits. It has been a long time since I gave you a report on ***** but it is time to fess up as best I can at the moment.

After ***** bought the used chamber she started using it regularly and I've noticed a steady improvement in her overall health - Maybe she is not the model of perfect health yet but she is so much better that every time I see her or talk to her I want to lower my head and thank you and thank ***** for connecting ***** to you.

There is no way to tell you how grateful I am for your efforts to educate us and help us get an effective healing therapy.

You were right - ***** needed oxygen - she got a little of it w/ the H2O2 IVs from Dr. ***** but those had limited effectiveness that wore out in about a week.

so thank you and best wishes -

***** *****"

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Thanks for the encouragement Phoiph! we need that so much.
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Warms my heart
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Thank you, Phoiph.... I needed to see this tonight. What an inspirational story....

Thank you for all you do for so many. Words seem trite when trying to adequately express the kind of gratitude this engenders in us all....

BLESS you Phoiph and Peimomma and all those that have gone before paving the way.... You carry light as you go and really, from the bottom of my heart, thank you..... Hugs!

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Thank you, willbeatthis, and everyone...

I'll try to remember to post more of the feedback I receive outside of LymeNet.

Being well and helping out is a privilege...and it is epically rewarding in cases like this where I have personally met the people involved and see the improvement first hand.

Another update...I realized I just passed my 5 year anniversary of starting mHBOT. I spent several days "unplugged", camping in the mountains, hiking, and running trails around the lake with my beloved Aussie cattle dog. It wasn't so long ago that not only was I so ill I didn't think I would live, I was certain I didn't want to. Moral of the story: wellness may be closer than you think. Never, never, give up!

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