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NanaDubo
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Dr. W told me if a person lived in Germany he would have them come back once a month for a while and then be checked each year.
As you said, it is highly individual. I was told to have a treatment four weeks after I was there and again in another four weeks.
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And for me it's three more treatments three days apart, then in four weeks. It depends on if you're totally Lyme-free or not ... I am not so need the three additional treatments.
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Six,
Happy you have seen improvement!
Keep us posted of how you feel upon returning home
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Six mentioned if you have other issues (co-infections, Epstein-Barr etc.), you'll need to deal with them after the fact, when the Lyme is "cured". I have off the chart Epstein-Barr levels along with HHV-6. So, I don't know if my symptoms are from my Lyme or EB.
If I go to Germany for treatment, does Dr. W tell you what to do to treat the other things (i.e. Epstein Barr) after you return home, or are you on your own to figure that out?
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It's easy to use the machine and he tells you how to do it, however, there is a lot to figure out as well. I feel comfortable treating the other conditions (babesia) and he told me how to do it with my blood.
If you have heavy viruses, you might not feel better during the three weeks you are here, but getting rid of the Lyme is a big help.
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does he tell you how to get your own blood into vials?
i doubt my llmd will draw my blood, bottle it, and give it to me to take home
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sixgoofykids
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Prick your finger and drop a couple drops in a vial.
I asked what to mix in with it and he said that if I had an allergy to milk, I could put milk in, LOL. He told someone else here that nothing else is needed and it doesn't matter if it's all dried up. He told yet another that it was okay to mix with potato vodka or distilled water (this person asked that question).
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Not too far from Germany there's Romania -- I believe they call it "transylvania red" there.
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Following your blog, six, and scott's, is fascinating.
I think we could get some b. microti and wa-1 in a vial--the question is dilution.
There are firms that makes nosodes. Maybe in U.S. certainly in London and India.
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I am following everyone's blog. I am very thankful that you guys are sharing your experience.
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Had an interesting and very long conversation with a practitioner in Germany. She has been treating Lyme and everything else, I mean everything else, for several years. She still has the previous model of the Bionic that was a bit different than the 880.
It was most enlightening and fascinating. She tests with muscle testing and treats all infections, all viral, parasites, heavy metals, food allergies including gluten and dairy with better results than I have ever heard of before.
I can't go into the details here because it gets too lengthy. What surprised me most is that by adding a certain prepared remedies by Allergie-Immun, which are very simply to get, she treats gluten and dairy and the results, especially for these two most serious allergies, are astounding. With all allergy treatments, she has an 80% success rate; only 5% of the remaining 20% have no improvement whatsoever.
I will be contacting the Allergie-Immun people next week. It was too late today. To find out if they can ship the product to us here.
Another think I was told today that in general, once the Lyme is out, the metals can be treated and released in approx. three treatments with the Bionic - then they clear. That is about what I am finding with my husband - I now canot find any metals any longer. Looking back, before Bionic, we have been treating heavy metals for literally years! and they were still there. After the Bionic/Lyme, they are now gone.
Some similar products as Allergie-Immun can be prepared here by my friend and mentor, A.R., with the Skasys. She brought us a total series of Nitric Oxide nosodes today so that I can treat my husband. He is very allergic to nitric oxide, which I discovered by accident and close observation. I am real proud of that - Dr. K. had looked at the symptom for several years and little old me finally figured it out. We hope that clearing this allergy with the Bionic 880 will get us another step forward.
Oh, I forgot, I keep testing my husband and discovered today that he tested for Bartonella, the first time in many months! The metals are gone. I treated Bartonella today, with the Bartonella nosode that I had sent from Brussels.
So, the reason why Dr. W. has his patients come back for checks is obvious. Many people have many toxins and many infections and the body has its own priorities and order to dispose of them via the photons.
Do not use nosodes without the Bionic. I could watch my husbands lip swelling as I had fastened the nosode to his solar plexus before he started the photons. If you have a severe infection, it is not a good idea. I heard Dr. Woitzel tell that - no nosode, without lights - but I really saw the proof of it with my own eyes today.
Another comment I heard today - the nosodes are the road signs for the photons - in other words, they show the way. The rest of what happens no one knows - except that it works.
The lady has a document that she published in a magazine that is available explaining in every detail all treatments she does citing many case histories. Of course, it is in German, and she sells it to doctors who want to learn to treat for 200 Euros. I declined for the moment, because if I wanted to share it, I would have to first translate it into English.
She will send me her suggestions for different nosodes for my husband, probably directed at age and collateral damage from old infections.
For right now, I will keep busy fixing what I dig up every day. My life certainly isn't all wine and roses, but having the Bionic solved a thousand and one problems in an instant. At least I know - once I find the problem - how to attack it best.
I would not recommend anyone use light without the protection of nosodes. What most likely happens is that you are shifting more toxins than you can eliminate that way. It is extremely stressful to an already stressed body and it is not necessary. If energetically tested and done slowly at low intensities when testing indicates, a lot of bad effects can be avoided. Today, my husband tested for only 25% of the intensity of a certain frequency --- and he was feeling as if he had done three days of hard work afterwards. All things have to fit together to do it right. If you use lights and nothing else, test energetically as best you can. The more toxic a peson is and the more drugs consumed, the more careful one has to approach it.
When I remember more of my talk today, I will tell you.
Take care.
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Thanks for sharing all that info its very interesting! Its very interesting to hear about the Germany practitioner who has been treating lyme etc with the older version of the Bionic and also about the Allergie-Immun too. That document sounds like it would be a fascinating read!
I may be having photon therapy soon in the UK and I just have a question about the Bartonella nosode you ordered from Brussels, do you have a link to where you ordered it from? Also do you happen to know what strain of Bartonella it is used for? Can you order nosodes for Ehrlichia and other infections too? I hope that it helps your husband get rid of the Bart anyway.
Thanks again and good luck to both of you.
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Has anyone that's been to Dr. W have joint problems? Things like Lyme arthritis and/or joint swelling?
I'm supposed to go on IV abx for four weeks in 4 weeks but I'm really thinking of going to see Dr. W this late winter, early spring.
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I've been following along with this thread as well as reading the various blogs. Obviously there is a lot of work that goes along with this healing process, but to have this "hope" out there is what so many of us need.
I have a port right now and think I'm reaching the point that I'm not sure how much more of this my body can take......which means I am definitely looking for "plan B".
There has been mention that Dr. W is going to change locations during the spring. Can anyone tell me if his location will actually be a different part of Germany or is he planning to still be in the same area?
Meaning, many talk about the Klein's. Is that still going to be convinient to where he might move?
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I heard that Farrah Fawcett was cured of cancer in Germany and was making a documentary about her experience. I wonder if she received any treatments with the Bionic 880?
"The German magazine Bunte first reported that the actress is undergoing chemotherapy in the University Clinic in Frankfurt, combining the treatments with alternative healing methods in Bad Wiessee, in southern Germany."
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tdtid - One of his nurses lives walking distance from his current practice and the other two not that far away. I would imagine he will remain fairly close by but that is just a guess.
jamieL - the site you listed pictures homeopathic remedies. These are not the same type of nosodes Dr. W had us use during treatment. They were glass vials of liquid.
There is talk that the pellets can be used but I only know about the ones I used in Germany for treatment with the Bionic880.
Gigi might have an answer for this.
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The nosodes I bought in Belgium and Switzerland for borrelia were in pellets (specific for ingestion).
I don't think you'll find any lyme nosodes said to be ingested in Germany as it seems to be against the law there.
I took these ingested nosodes many times, but they didn't cure my lyme. I suspect they work much better with light.
The liquid nosodes used for this treatment are on lower dilutions (X or D dilutions, if my memory is good), right?
D (Europe) = X (USA name for the same type of dilution).
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Dr. W. plans not to move more than a few minutes away from where they now are.
Re nosodes: I wouldn't ingest them under any conditions. It can act as a vaccine. And we had one death in the family from a vaccine. You can tell how strong they are just applying them to the outside of the body!!!! Dr. W. tells that as soon as the nosodes are on the body, the photons have to be applied! I am sure he has a reason for that. Lymerix was a lesson for anyone that thought they had no Lyme in the body. It obviously brought the stuff back alive again. I just do not like them. All of you do as you wish. Nosodes and photons - yes. I am also very careful of photons without nosodes. Photons stir things up and no nosodes to point the way. That of course is especially the case if you still carry a load of toxins.
Take care.
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Scott Happy Happy Birthday!
You really are in the middle of the perfect birthday present to yourself. I am sure it will be a birthday to remember. May your birthday bring you years of good health to come.
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Happy Bday Scott! For those of you who have been to Germany to see Dr. W. or stil are in Germany and had problems with ear ringing, have you noticed this symptom improved with treatment?
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sixgoofykids
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Gigi, how do you treat the metals?
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Six- I am so glad that you are doing GREAT!!!! Wonderful news..... I bet it is great to be back home now with your family. Get some rest!
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Happy B'Day Scott.
Thanks to six, joey, and scott for creating such wonderful blogs. It was great to follow your journey in Germany.
Thanks soooo much to GiGi, she has had such an enormous impact in finding ways for us to find health. Despite critics and rigid thinking she has explored and pioneered new avenues for us all, as both the bionic and biotensor represent. Two devices that are finally give us an edge against this incidious disease.
Despite the concerns, the next step is to get these devices here, with practioners here. There are just too many folks who can't afford it who don't know about it who still need help.
We all knew the folks who travelled out to Germany were going to be lymenet's pioneers. Almost like Germany was lymenet's lunar landing.
Congratulations, Six -- I look forward to your progress, and welcome home!
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Welcome home, Sixgoofykids.
I followed your blog while you were gone and hope you will continue to keep us posted on your progress and where you go from here.
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Hi Gigi! I've got it finally. I booked it approx. a week ago, but have been too busy with other things to report back to LymeNet ~ My first appointment with Dr. W. is February 2nd. Rachelle - another LymeNet member and fellow Lymie is traveling with me. A car is rented, the airline ticket is paid for, the appointment is made, passport is current and a suitcase is half packed.
Thank You so much for your insights.
Question: I've been using a Rife machine 1X/week. This is okay to use up to departure I would think.
Any concerns?
Question: Homeopathic drops are being used for 1 more month. Liver & Lymph detox, plus Candida support. However, I am almost through my first box (10 vials) of Borrelia Seris Therapy from Deseret Biologicals (per Homeopathic doc who uses a Bio-Meridian to test me).
Can this be a problem for successful use of Bionic 880 with borrelia nosodes??
FYI: Box reads - Active Ingredients - Borrelia, Babesia Microti and Ehrlichia combination; one vial of each of the following dilutions: 200x, 100x, 60x, 30x, 15x, 12x, 10x, 8x, 6x, 6x, Demineralized water, 25% Ethanol.
The therapy plan was to follow the above protocol (a) RIFE (b) DETOX (c) Homeopathy Borrelia nosodes for 1st month. Use Rife and Detox for 2nd Month. Use Rife, Detox and 2nd box of Bb nosodes - but drink the vials in the reverse order.
Any Concerns Anyone?
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Grace, any of us here would just have opinions about it, I would email Dr. W and ask him. I'm sure he'll have recommendations.
Have a great time in Dobel, I'm glad to be home, but miss the laid-back style of Dobel .... mostly the being able to walk everywhere in town.
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You mentioned in an earlier post that heavy metals can be successfully treated in a few photon treatments after the Lyme is dealt with.
If I take all my mercury fillings out before heading to Germany, and then do 3 weeks of Lyme treatment and my last week treat the heavy metals, does that sound reasonable? Or would it possibly not be wise to treat the heavy metals so close to the time I treat the Lyme?
Of course, I am assuming my Lyme will clear in 3 weeks. I'd rather deal with heavy metals with 1 week of photon treatment than years with herbs and what not.
Thanks again for all your time and wisdom!
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I have been doing a lot of research on heavy metals lately and it appears that we are and will be always constantly bombarded with them from all angles for the rest of our lives. So, I'm wondering, just because you use the photon machine for heavy metals and clear your system of them, it sounds like this would be an ongoing process that might need to be done on a yearly basis to continue to clean out the new ones we accumulate.
Do you agree? Any word from Dr. W on this?
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I also used deseret biologicals for bartonella and got more symptoms of bart from it. I have tested at a low titer on IgG for bart, but wished I had not done the nosodes.
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That stopped me in my tracks. Wish I'd read this an hour ago. Today was the 8th vial of nosode. It's already inside me. I've been having strange headaches, which I'm not prone to.
In addition to the Bb nosodes, I had an extremely painful experience. I found an 880 in a doctor's office, asked them to use it on me. Supposidely the technician studied up to learn what to do, where to position it and so forth.
After the first treatment I thought my head and ears were going to burst. There was Zero detox from IV's even though this clinic is doing them all of the time. Head feels different now - hurts more, and so does my left jaw. Oh well - Pioneering (or stupidity) can be painful.
I'll just Rife, Detox and wait for the February appoint to get started with nosodes per Dr. W.
Thanks for sharing your experience regarding Nosodes. Most appreciated. Grace
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Oh, my, Grace, I would NOT have wanted to do the Bionic treatment without the IV's! It's rough enough WITH the IV's!! It's no walk in the park, but it works.
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Grace was it a Bionic 880 machine? Sorry about your bad experience.
Six how do you know which IV to do when? I am sorry I can't send you a PM or I would explain further.
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whoa Grace - that doesn't sound so good. I agree with six about the IVs. I'll never know what it would have been like without them and I'm glad!
Dr. W said in a jovial yet sincere way that " you might get a little mad at me without the IV".
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Six,
I read on your blog that you are starting treatment for your family per Dr. W's guidelines.
Will you be doing IV"s for them with Ozone?
I am planning on treating my family when I return, and the IV"s are something I'm not sure I could do on my own for them. They appear necessary.
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Angelica, I just had the saline IV's with magnesium, zinc and some herbs after each infusion. I bought some detox herbs from whole foods for my family to take after treatment, I also give them magnesium. You drink at least one liter of water while being treated as well .... even at Dr. W's office.
After our first treatment he said, "Have a good night, hahaha." LOL He also told us we would be mad at him if he didn't give the IV's.
I have treated my husband at 100% power. He had no reaction whatsoever, and I treated him Sunday.
I treated my 10 year old for 200 seconds, per Dr. W's instructions, but only at 25% power because I was concerned about her reaction.
She got a tummy ache (her worst symptom), a headache, and her wrist hurt. She still has the headache and sore wrist. She also had nosebleeds yesterday, but she has a cold so perhaps it's from that.
Lymeparfait, I did not get any ozone in Germany. My primary problem was Lyme and coinfections, and I guess I did not have the presentation of it that required ozone. So, no, I will not be giving them ozone infusions.
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I was wondering that after returning from Germany and being treated will you continue seeing your llmd?
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Steelbone, We haven't heard much about your treatment in Germany. Do you think it helped? If so how much? Please feel us in or pm me.
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Rachelle and all,
quote:You mentioned in an earlier post that heavy metals can be successfully treated in a few photon treatments after the Lyme is dealt with.
If I take all my mercury fillings out before heading to Germany, and then do 3 weeks of Lyme treatment and my last week treat the heavy metals, does that sound reasonable? Or would it possibly not be wise to treat the heavy metals so close to the time I treat the Lyme?
Of course, I am assuming my Lyme will clear in 3 weeks. I'd rather deal with heavy metals with 1 week of photon treatment than years with herbs and what not.
Thanks again for all your time and wisdom!
For most people, treatment of Lyme with photons is ALL THEY CAN HANDLE; IT can be very easy or very tough on some. Also your body needs time to clear out toxins and I would not think of starting to move heavy metals right away. Some are coming out with the die-off anyhow. But most people need a breather. Don't try to do all this like a marathon. Also remember that any disease includes some emotional clearing also. Pushing for fast action does not work, I find.
Heavy metals are not done within a week. Remember that metals are often in the brain and brainstem, in intracellular spaces. A womb/lifetime accumulation. For some people they may take longer, some may do it very quickly. There is no telling. For my husband it happened very quickly after doing the Bionic treatments for Borrelia, but he had been detoxing heavy metals for many years. It is a lot easier to detox anything after the Borrelia/Bionic tratment. This is what I am finding every day now. Maybe by the time you get back, someone will have a Bionic nearby which you can use. You may have a ``plan'' - but your body's plan may be totally different. You have to listen to its dictates.
Along with the metals leaving, other toxins will also appear that are now testable energetically, quite easily. I have been treating everything from solvents to fungi, to vaccines, to pesticides. When the infections are leaving, of which Borrelia is probably the toughest one, I found that now the co-infections will popp up too. It took my husband about a months after the Borrelia/Bionic treatment, before Bartonella showed up in energetic testing. I do not know why Dr. W. does not treat them. He clearly stated to me when I first inquired before we went to see him that the photons would handle them at the same time. His answer is that he has not had a problem with them with the locals/Europeans. But he certainly does with Americans. Some day we will know why. Maybe the European Bartonella is still a close relative of the Borrelia - while they mutated into a much more dominant creature here. I don't know. Plum Island is always on my mind.
Some of his German patients I talked with also never mentioned it co-infections. I called a German practitioner with a very busy and successful practice and asked her about Bartonella - she had never heard of it. Babesia, yes. Others, no. But now all the other contaminants are coming. I treat them, one by one as the tensor energy allows. I will not treat anything unless I get a positive with the tensor.
It is so obvious now that since the body has been under such stress for years (my husband had Lyme for ten years) a lot of other toxins have accumulated and they are now, with the action of the photons, showing up. Again, I treat them as I find them.
We had a Skasys test done. Some of you might want to look into it. www.nurseandi.com It will show most of what is in the body that does not contribute to good health at this time. The test is done with a mere drop of saliva and can be done long distance. She prepares the homeopathic covering all, and it can then be applied to the body if one has a Bionic available. The drops can also be taken by mouth, but they need to be taken for a long time. The Bionic clears things with one or two treatments.
I myself would not use any single Lyme nosode orally. I simply have an aversion, and knowing that a lot of homeopathics work on the mental level, not biochemical, I don't. With the Bionic added, it is different. (I lost a son forever to vaccines - and nosodes are vaccines of sorts). It has to be the right light, not just any light that does not have the power. The energy of nosodes point the way - pointing out ``photon, go there'' --- That's my interpretation of things. Everyone has their own - until we really know how it works.
The most important are the binding agents following any treatment. Right away. The metals show up in the urine within a couple of hours. If you drink during treatment as you should, it will show quicker. I test it and find all sorts of environmental toxin residue - pesticides, etc. besides metals. Also fungi residue appears. It's nice to be able to test it with the Biotensor knowing that this method works. Without binding agents, most people will feel miserable - not a herxheimer - just toxic because the toxins flood the system. No detox agents - but mainly binders.
I think Grace talked about feeling miserable after a certain nosode treatment. I don't have time to search for her post. If you will be seeing Dr. W. soon, relax and pamper your body now. Don't stress. The photons will work much more quickly and with less discomfort than what you are doing now. I would definitely not rife. But that is my opinion, and please do whatever you feel like benefits you. If it hurts, most of the time it is a redistribution of toxins and that makes things worse.
All this is based on my own learning and experience.
Take care.
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Kirsten, I just had a phone consultation with the PA at my LLMD's office. If I continue to feel good, I don't need another appt. They will check my blood work every other month for my thyroid meds. I have an appt. set up for two months from now, but she said to cancel if I feel good.
She was very interested in the photon treatment and wanted more information on it, so the appt. went very well.
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sixgoofykids :
Did you ever had eye floaters before BIONIC treatment and do you have them now.
I recall you wrote in your post that nothing could touch your eyes before.
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6goof, i see that practice in a week- i have some bionic/dr w protocol booklets. do you want me to drop 2 off, one for her and one for j.f.?
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Thank you Six for responding. I really want to take a trip over to Germany!
I am quietly following everyones experiences and enjoying the results. The thought of recovering abx free is incredible. It's been 30 yrs too long for me!
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Kirsten, I know the feeling .... I have had it for 35 years now.
Alv, I had eye floaters and still do. I felt the Bionic in my eyes the first time I used it .... very strange sensation.
John, that would be GREAT! Thanks. Let us know how it goes.
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Please remember that when you share unused liquid homeopathics/nosodes with others and send them in the mail or transport them where they may be x-rayed, please wrap them well in aluminum foil before you send them. Only this way their potency will be protected.
The need to be stored away from EMFs, etc.
The unexcposed globuli homeo/nosodes do not need to be wrapped in foil when whipping. But they would be ruined if in higher than 120 C temperature for more than 20 minutes.
I got this information from the manufacturer because I have been sharing some globuli with others and wanted to be sure about protecting nosodes.
Take care.
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