GiGi
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The way you describe it, Nutmeg, is all they need. The less long sentences, the better. They have trouble with English. They do not need a lot of detail. They are looking for the wrong polarities.
Interesting -- a phobia is a blockade with a minus polarity; so is jealousy -- just to mention a couple. These minus polarity eventually get to the organs - it always starts with the thought, the mind = creating our own reality with the way we think.
But they do not care to know the details of the emotions -- they find the polarities at the different levels and that is also part of what goes into the drops. When They tell us that we have a certain number of emotional blockages, they are not concerned with what they are. They merely turn the switch to correct it.
Did you know that we cause a short in the body when we cross our feet? The nucleus of a cell has a minus polarity and the cell wall a plus. I can only imagine what happens if something we do, or experience, or take by mouth or dermally that throws the polarity and interrupts the energy flow! Like blowing a fuse.
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Round 2 is arriving ...just to be sure how are you all opening the bottle...last time I was doing mega drops... would a pin in the tip do it...
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Great information on this thread. Thanks, everyone.
If I understand this correctly, it appears that in order for AI to get an accurate `read' on a saliva sample, it's important to minimize the use of any supplements (or drugs) that might `mask' an underlying problem or condition.
For instance, if your adrenal glands are weak and you are taking something like Isocort or licorice to boost your adrenal function, then isn't it possible that AI testing might misinterpret actual adrenal health and miss whatever may be causing the malfunction?
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Gigi, Thanks for your comments and insights on KPU and AI.
I am experiencing new things all the time and learning.
Originally, before AI and KPU therapies, I know I had difficulty detoxing. I was always retaining fluids, etc.
I started the AI therapy, and the following month, my ND told me about KPU and thought I was a strong candidate for the test and therapy.
I took the urine test, and she read the results wrong, and thought I did not have KPU, so I just continued on round 2 of AI. I ARt tested positive for the products, but I decided to not do it and only take AI for the duration.
Before Round three, she called and told me I indeed was positive for KPU. I re-ART tested, and was strong for taking the drops and the AI together. So I took about one month of KPU.
Then I tested myself with the biotenser for the products,and I tested a NO! So I stopped on my own, thinking I would only do the KPU therapy afater I stopped the Ai, and retested to see if I still need the KPU! That was my plan.
Well, now, I do test positive withthe biotenser for needing the supplements for KPU!
I am thinking that the AI did it's magic for my body to now recognize how to detox, and accept the supplements and minerals, to allow my detox pathways to open.
In the past few days I now notice that I am actually draining my body fluid, and have started the KPU again before round 5, this week.
Gigi, do you think that my pathways have opened with the AI before the complete treatment is over? I am testing so strongly for the KPU each day.
And now I have actually lost weight/or fluffy fluid tissue ,just with fluids leaving my body. My lymphs are now not hurting!
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Cooper, no a pin won't do it. You will need to lay it flat on a hard surface and with a razor blade cut off about l/16" from the the tip after removing the protective cap. If you have to press too hard to get the drops out after doing that, take another teeeeny bit more off. I then also mark the bottle so I do not confuse it with the older ones that are left, especially since we have two in the family doing the drops.
Sometimes if the drops still test and the new ones have not arrived yet, I may use the old one for a day or two, because sometimes it removes a blockage. (I can always tell by just looking at my husband when he is blocked.) Or I stick it in the pocket. Energy field.
Take care.
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Lymeparfait, depending on what they still find when testing, I would not do the KPU at this early stage (#5). When I test KPU supplements, I find the same. One day KPU okay, one day not. But don't forget that it is difficult not the let the testing mislead. I find it very difficult not to "think" my hope into the tensor and therefore am very careful not to let wishful thinking take over. That has backfired on me in other respects.
There is no way when HG still comes up with a handful or two dozen chemicals and other blockages that your system is ready to take on the battle for all the past mistakes. As Dr. K. says, the action is on totally different levels, and why not wait until we can be fairly safe and not shovel more substances which the body is not quite able to deal with.
The KPU - better HPU -- actually includes many other substances to be employed besides the basics. Every metal detox agent is used, several supportive vitamins and oils, all very possibly still carrying frequencies that we cannot handle yet. Everything we put into us has gone through some form of processing and possible exposure to frequencies we cannot deal with yet.
As long as they still find a number of dysregulations, which is what they really are, why force more stress onto a body that has been struggling for many years and in most of us has carried a tremendous load stressing the organs to the point where they are in a very precarious condition. I don't look at this as a healing state.
This is the exact answer I got from HG when I asked him about it several months ago. And unless a practitioner understands exactly what AI is doing, I will pay attention to AI until I feel fairly safe that I don't mess things up.
People who do all sorts of other programs tend to finish early with AI. At least the two I have heard about, yet the people are not well yet. My question: the body goes under-cover and does not reveal until the system finds balance between what it is being forced to do ----- listen to too many voices at the same time????? I am not expert - logic is my instructor!
There obviously is a reason why AI recommends not to -- they have worked with many people for many years -- for ten years successfully, and senior G has done it for ten years before that.
Wishing all the best and healthy decision-making!
Take care.
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I second ping. I dont know if its fog or what buti am hainv a hard time understandiing that concept that she highlighted. Also Gigi could you shed some light on Truthfinders question on the adrenal glads and taking adrenal supplements? I guess the basis for AI would be a good foundational diet, minerals and binders?
I have had to go off my minerals and Bvitamins for kpu testing andi feel so weak. Due to digestive difficulties i am very deficinet and feel it very quickly when i go off supplements. I am also unclear about which test is the most accurate the vitamin diagnostics or biocenter. biocenter is 24 hour..
Thanks, Runner21
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Hi Runner, I did Bio center and it is not the 24 hr one. I was positive. Just to give u a heads up. Healing Blessings Joyce
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Ping, No, that is not what I am trying to say. Note my words "My question" --
I will not elaborate on this any more, because I have talked about it throughout this whole thread.
I would hate for some to be disappointed feeling this therapy is not working because they ignored the recommendations given by AI.
Take care and hope the next round sends your wagon in the right direction!
Take care.
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**''I take it to mean that if people are doing other programs, it masks some of the dysregulations that AI would normally find, therefore, not correcting them?''**
Ping, thanks for asking a more precise version of my question. I guess the answer is either ``unknown'', or the answer is buried here in 13 pages of comments. (I've read all the pages and I don't recall seeing it.)
But based on the information from AI that Gigi has shared with us, what you stated in your question is how I would interpret the basis behind AI's recommendations. Maybe others see it differently.
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Gigi, I understand what you say about the misleading of the mind with the biotenser. I appreciate your insights!
To counteract that, I do my best to test when I am fresh and my regulation is open, and can feel mentally neutral. It is not always perfect. I have made mistakes and stated things in a way to not get at the right direction for what I needed.
Like getting a very strong positive response that my body wants and would benefit from all the ingredients in the KPU therapy. My tenser goes wild in a positive motion. But many times when I have stated, "my body would benefit in the long term for complete health and healing by combining these two therapies, AI with the KPU, (holding them in my hand), the response is still strongly yes."
When I state my body would regulate better and more naturally with the AI alone, and let the AI do it's own regulation without adding more KPU supplements. I also get a strong yes.
I know that I need to make a statement for the products in various ways to triple check the response in important situations like doing AI with KPU.
Just knowing that a substance or food is good for my body, does not mean that my body needs it now. I do know when I test my binders in my basket in a group, many test positive for me today.
When I pull the selected ones out of the basket and line them up on my counter and individually test them in the selected group, by stating , "this one out of all that have been selected today, is needed now", only one will test positive to be the one for the now.
After I take the one, many others do not test at all for the day! But originally they all did test positive as being good for me.
So by experimenting like this, I am understanding more how to make the statements and select products, as well as learning the pitfalls. This takes experience I am learning.
This is why I decided to go to my ND to test with a neutral party, the KPU and the AI...and this is when I get confused.
She tests me as positive for doing both together. (and I do have a neutral mind on the subject..actually I hate doing protocols and would prefer not to do the KPU at all!)
With ART, she says she gets that they are on different plains, and that I would benefit more greatly to have my detox pathways open and working properly when the "directional information" from the AI is restored for the substances to be removed from the body. (this is a paraphrase, but as I understood her)
I know she is human, and maybe predisposed as well to follow Dr. K's guidance, as she is testing me. She has always been acurate for me in the past.
I had every intent to just let the AI do it's thing. I believe in that. But do get confused when MY ND strongly advises this.
I must pray about this!
To further clarify to others, I do think that there is no negative effect physically to taking them together, but as pointed out, our bodies may not get the full benefit of the AI regulation of problems if they are being masked during the AI therapy.
Possibly those doing other therapies with the AI, may need to continue their therapies indefinately as the AI will never get a chance to truly address the issues being masked by the therapies.
None of us are certain.
Sorry for the long response, but hope you understand my indecisiveness.
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Wow, these biotensor decisions must be quite time consuming day in and day out if they are made for every food choice, supplement choice, quantity/time/dosing, etc.
I remember a Twilight Zone episode in which a couple was sitting in a diner booth next to a fortune teller machine. The guy got super intrigued and thought every answer it provided was specific to him and couldn't get himself to leave. He lost the ability to make his own decisions.
It was a classic episode, but sometimes the reliance on these objects does make me think of this. If it works well for you and your health, great though.
I still want to know if ONE person here was cured of muscle tightness with AI.
Maybe Scott F is doing a ton better now as I haven't see any posts for a while? He is cleared of all blockages as of Round 7. I'll be interested to hear more as people graduate from AI therapy. I need to hear Ai completion = physical symptom elimination.
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Ping, if you read the sequences in this thread. I have referred to our body attempting new regulation as a train that has been going in every which direction, sideways, forward, another wrong turn, etc. This is why I was referring to "your wagon"; in order to get me to understand this, this is an example HG has used in conversation with me.
All decisions are up to the individual. I can only pass on what I have learned in long conversations with the G's and what they have given us as guidance. So far that has taken us a long way from where we started; especially my husband.
Lots of things to do now while hopefully the heat lets off.
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Truthfinder, the explanation is quite simple.
By taking more substances, many of which have been and are totally wrong for our body, the body will deposit them somewhere to get them out of the way and adding to the body burden. HG refers to this as "brushing more under the rug".
That is totally counterproductive according to them. It merely adds more dysregulations and new errors -- at the time, while we and they they are attempting to help clear the old accumulation.
Take care.
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seekhelp...I appologize for comments about the biotenser for those who do not own one or have never had a chance to use one. It cannot make sense to you. There are other threads about the biotenser that many of us doing the AI are very familiar with. I know we are all not on the same page with knowledge on this subject. You may want to research.
To clarify, I actually don't take much time using the biotenser on all on those daily things you mention. That would be over the top. But I guess you could if you wanted.
I only sited examples of things as examples for those of us who fine tune doses, treatments with what resignates with the body frequencies. This does not take up time...but over time and experience this skill is developed.
Specifically in light of many posts about should we or should we not take other treatments with the AI. Hoping my questions would help others as well and inspire other positive insights, as we, who are doing the treatment help each other.
Usually when there is a crisis or very important change that has occured physically. That's when a biotenser can be beneficial.
Most people use their common sense on what food to eat, and just follow the guidelines written on the bottle of supplements and follow MD's orders. Sounds like you are comfortable with the standard approach. But the "cookie cutter approach" to chronic illness has not been successful. You will get the standard results, slightly better, but no cure. We all know it takes individualized treatments for each of us to gain health.
I am actualy, finally very healthy, and feeling great. Just fine tuning some things, and the AI is a major missing link for me. This forum has literally "saved my life", with unique, "out of the box" protocols that if I had too much pride, and a know it all attitude, I would have never tried! I follow the advice of the ones who are better, and go from there! I use my innate intuition!
Those looking for a cure in a bottle, are in the wrong place! It doesn't exist! It's not a magic tonic or quick fix. AI is not the cure, it is a missing link, and piece of the individual puzzle, and a very user friendly, easy protocol that I believe everyone can use to set the healing in motion individually.
Those looking for "who was cured with AI, then when I see, I will do it", that is your own personal "twilight Zone " epsiode that will go on a lifetime with limited success. Because just Ai, will not doit all. There is an emotional/spiritual link to healing as well, and those who attain it, have an attitude adjustment along the way that clears the path to take. It is inidividual.
Specifically trying to get to the bottom of "should we add or not add" any other supplement while on the AI. This is important to me.
I do not like any treatments, and I do not want to take any more supplements than I actually need, just because I tested positive for it on a lab test.
I actually tested positive for lyme, and my LLMD wanted me on IV antibiotics after a long round on orals. I used my intuition that I needed to detox after orals,and did not take any more to treat the lyme, as I only treated co-infections.
I was inspired to "step out of the box" and try some natural protocols. Now, after detox, following natural protocol advice I learned here, and AI, I now do not test positive for lyme!
I save myself of loads of IV antibiotic therapy and side effects...by following my intuition and learning simple things from those who have gone before me.
The biotenser helped me navigate the mercury detox protocol. It is a very valuable tool. My brain fog left with this detox! I do not believe in standard testing as a sole means of therapy decision now.
We all have our own comfort zone. Follow your intuition, but please do not put down others ways as a joke, who have only been on this board to learn and share candidly to help people with truthful experiences. That is a disservice to us all.
You have to actually be using one to understand the point. Forgive me to add this on the common forum. But I cannot let such comments go without respectful reproach.
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Seek, I answered you before, but hit the wrong key and lost it. So I will briefly try again:
The Biotensor is my direction finder. I am lost without it. Yes, intuition sometimes works, but I don't like to depend on it. ART is a wonderful art, but I need a third arm to safely test my husband.
It would be so nice if you could contribute some of your good ideas, I would be thankful.
For your muscle problem: You might want to try Transdermal Magnesium (chloride) Oil, and if you really want to know how much this nutrient influences our being, especially transdermally, spend $12. and get Dr. Marc Sircus' book on the subject (Transdermal Magnesium Therapy) and possibly read some of the writings by Dr. Norm Shealy, M.D. I posted an article the other day "Transdermal or Oral" and you will find more on the internet. If you have Lyme which affects ligaments, etc., consider Jarrosil, also dermally. Both of these work wonders for us.
Take care.
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Dear Friends,
As for the KPU/AI controversy, I would gladly stop the KPU and other supplements and do AI alone--if I could.
However, I came to the KPU supplements on a different route--finding out what nutritional supplements worked to eliminate seizures.
I'm not doing the protocol as set out by Dr. K, but am using the key supplements that are in it.
Perhaps, down the line, I'll be able to stop them and just to AI for a few rounds. That would be pleasant (and a HELL of a lot cheaper!!!)
I'm about to start Round 4 of the AI drops. As of the last check, I had 9 chemical and 3 energetic blockages.
Best,
Cass A
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Gigi, thanks for the response. I already understand that part - inadvertently adding to the `body burden' with substances the body can't recognize and process properly. My question (and Ping's) remains unanswered, though. If you ever get any illumination about this from HG, I hope you'll share it with us.
In any case, I guess what it comes down to is: On an individual basis, what's compatible with AI and what isn't? Or perhaps more precisely, what substances are compatible with EACH ROUND of AI, since this is a layered approach.
Lymeparfait, thanks for the excellent explanations. It seems that you are doing all you can to determine what works FOR you during your AI treatment. Getting a `second opinion' from another source is an excellent point.
Seek, one of my best friends became totally reliant upon her pendulum for everything. And because she refused to `test' her accuracy in any way, she got headed in the wrong direction. It can happen.
And I know a couple of people who refuse to do anything that isn't scientifically proven or that isn't recommended by their M.D. No good has come of that dogma, either. In my opinion, the two philosophies are equally obsessive and destructive.
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In any case, I guess what it comes down to is: On an individual basis, what's compatible with AI and what isn't? Or perhaps more precisely, what substances are compatible with EACH ROUND of AI, since this is a layered approach.
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Not Gigi - but:
Key here is "individual". I don't know how Gigi can be expected to answer that.
Mr. G has said, and it has been repeated here: if it is a heart med, thyorid or the like - something you can't live without - take it.
If I find something here or there that is supportive of what I am detoxing, I take it but I am trying to keep it very, very simple so the body is not saying "do I do this, or do I do this? 24/7
As far as Gigi being rude - there is a difference between direct and rude. I know for a fact that late at night when her head should be on the pillow - she is answering emails to people on this thread.
A reply gets sent and 3 more emails/questions arrive. I would be quite surprised if her motivation to stay up so late spending her time doing this for us, is to be rude.
The written word can often be misinterpreted. The benefit of the doubt could be afforded someone who is being so helpful to those of us getting through A I.
Have a great day.
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Please, rephrase your question:
Gigi, thanks for the response. I already understand that part - inadvertently adding to the `body burden' with substances the body can't recognize and process properly. My question (and Ping's) remains unanswered, though. If you ever get any illumination about this from HG, I hope you'll share it with us.
What remains unanswered? Please phrase the question in one simple question, without adding your opinion or interpretation or what you suspect such as masking, etc. A simple question, please.
Take care.
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To explain "the Wagon" again.
HG uses the example of us in a car getting lost on a highway network. Instead of getting from A to B, we are hopelessly lost at Z = also called chronic disease. We have a hard time finding out way back.
He uses the same example, riding on a train that has finally gotten hopelessly lost somewhere we never intended to go.
AI's effort is to help lead the car or the train/wagon back to where it can safely travel without getting stuck in the mudd. We have to retrace the same way back to the right road, the railroad tracks, if we want to get well. He works the switches or the traffic lights. That means they help us through the same detours, only backward, and therefore the travel cannot always be smooth. Retracing out steps means that often it will appear to us that we are getting worse before getting better. They call it "three steps forward, two steps backward." In order for the body to gain in one specific body area, it will temporarily neglect another part (feels worse) not absolutely necessary for survival. Or, it will sacrifice the arm in order to save the heart, temporarily.
All this has been explained to me over and over again, and any such conversation is very difficult to pass on when everybody is sitting there just waiting to pull what I say apart and weigh each word in a scale. I am tired of this.
So go and do your own translating. Their website equals the contents of a 1000 page book and more. You just need make the effort. None of this information came to me easily and I am ready to just shut up.
Hope you sensitive creatures now get the message about the "wagon going in the right direction". Yes, life on the drops can be hard at times.
Breakfast time - my husband is sitting outside on the deck pouring my coffee.
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Thank you Gigi for your long reply to my questions, and I dont know why I never thought of taking less drops but still take them three times a day,such a great idea. But I must say round 4 was a dosie for me and I'm elated that last evening was the end of that one ! And I think you stories and analages' are very relatable and easy for me to understand. And I for one am greatful for your time and paitence to translate the A1 info that you share.
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Gigi, can we expect to feel more sensitive or easily upset when clearing emotional issues with the AI drops? I suspect this is the case.
I understand that it is not easy to always word things exactly as you mean when writing in a second language.
I'm sure I could offend you unintentionally by choosing the wrong words if I tried to respond in German, but I will spare you that. I'm glad I don't have to wade through the AI site on my own trying to decipher everything.
Thanks for the time you donate to post all this information, I know I'm not the only one who appreciates your efforts. I am of the opinion that we can't get well if our bodies are full of inflammation caused by allergy responses.
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Hi Looking, My experience with emotions coming up is that they just float through me. Way easier than I have ever experienced. Sort of like watching a movie.No attachment.
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Looking,
"Gigi, can we expect to feel more sensitive or easily upset when clearing emotional issues with the AI drops? I suspect this is the case."
You are right, Looking, that is why AI has a staff member who is trained in this very area - some people have a difficult time and some overreact. They answer the phone even on Saturdays because they want to be there if people need help. In their letters, they literally invite people to call when they feel the need for help. The reactions will be different with every bottle. Every bottle involves different "circuits" of our electromagnetic system.
We have to remind ourselves that changes are happening. Then it is easier to get through it.
Take care.
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Nana, it wasn't meant to be a question, but rather a statement. My apologies - I worded it poorly. Maybe it would make more sense to put it like this:
I guess each person has to determine, on an individual basis, which additional substances are compatible with each round of AI drops, and which substances/treatments are not. Otherwise, it's a bit of a gamble as to what might inadvertently undermine the AI treatment.
Better?
(It has been made very clear that necessary substances - like thyroid or heart meds - should be continued. Or in Cass's case, her modified KPU protocol seems pretty necessary, at this point.)
Gigi, I don't know how to make it any simpler or clearer than the way Ping asked the question:
quote:GiGi - Could you please clarify this for me? I take it to mean that if people are doing other programs, it masks some of the dysregulations that AI would normally find, therefore, not correcting them?
Thanks in advance if you get any clarification about this from AI.
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Truthfinder - no need for apology and I agree with your question/statement about substances/treatments with AI being an individual thing.
We are all here to learn more about this.
Most of my reply was meant to address unkind things being said (which you did not do) on a public forum.
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Truthfinder, name the "programs" other people want to do and I will try to give you an answer?
Please.
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I have had to start taking low dose hydrocortisone because cortisol levels were so low [probably causing the sudden hyperthyroid crisis in early June that I am still v. unwell with].
So, using my case, I suppose the question is: will AI be able to sense and correct the adrenal problem if I am actually taking replacement meds [hydrocortisone] that may mask the original problem?
When I sent my last saliva specimen, I made it clear on the form that I was taking hydroc.along with thyroid meds so that AI were at least aware.
I too have certainly been very emotional, though it has been impossible to know how much is from the AI and how much the state I have been in with the heart, breathing and hormonal problems.
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ukcarry, if you need cortisol to function, you may not have a choice. I hope your physician understands AI and can keep an eye on it. With AI, the aim is that your body will start producing hormones as needed.
My husband is in a similar situation, but AI encouraged him to reduce the amount if possible and he is now down to merely a crumb of the lowest potency tablet available, in order not to suppress the body's own production. We know that his medication does not test energetically well for him, but it gives him a slight advantage for a couple of hours. There is no good solution other than hanging in there until no more misinformation can be found and corrected. And then it is still a wait and see. The leaky gut takes its time to heal and there is no quick fix. Best wishes to you.
You may want to check this out - all about adrenals:
Take care.
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Also all about adrenals is lloydspowersolution
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Runner, will have to look that up. Thank you.
Just got an update from my friend Karen, who started AI 2-3 months ago. With her permission, I am copying the part she wrote which I think might be of interest to all of you who who are doing AI or are thinking of doing it.
This is part of what she wrote:
``Well, I am happy to say I helped my husband mow his mother's 3 acres today. I hesitated to go because last year when I went, I was overtaken with all the grass cuttings, etc. But, there were no ill effects today & I helped by raking for a couple of hours which is not something I can normally do! .................................................. I have completed round 2 of the drops and I've noticed a big improvement in my EMF sensitivity. I can now sit at the computer without feeling like radar is shooting through my head. Just curious...has anyone else experienced this same improvement?
Gudrun, I can't tell you how encouraged I am about this therapy...if things keep moving in this direction...a miracle just might happen! I have been sick for 15 years.
Thank you for your support & encouragement.''
Pretty nice. Karen is doing no other therapies, except taking some binders.
Take care.
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Thank you for your encouragement and link, Gigi and also Runner for the suggestion.
I'm glad to hear that your husband has managed to get right down in dose, Gigi.
I do hope to wean off, or at least lower, the HC as soon as I can; I am waiting for round 3 to arrive, so I'll let you know if AI have commented on the HC,
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Gigi, I've tried to think of a few things that people might be taking that assist certain bodily functions or relieve symptoms, but that would not be considered essential. Only the person doing any treatment can determine if it is necessary or essential for them personally.
Perhaps some examples of `programs' that might prevent detection of dysregulations through AI testing might be things such as:
- Taking something like Zyrtec (antihistamine) continuously to prevent any annoying hay fever/allergy symptoms. (My brother and his wife just started doing just that this summer. Neither of them have severe allergic reactions to anything 95% of the time.)
- Using natural progesterone creams to alleviate relatively mild menopausal or hormonal symptoms (like night sweats, hot flashes, etc.).
- Using herbs or supplements to boost/support adrenal or thyroid function, such as bovine/ porcine glandular concentrates, licorice root, ginger, dandelion, etc. (assuming symptoms are not severe or life-threatening, of course).
- Using most adaptogens for resistance to stress, anxiety, fatigue, such as ashwagandha, ginseng, astragalus, cordyceps, schisandra, rhodiola, etc.
- Using herbs like ginko biloba or gotu kola to boost brain function.
While all of these substances may be very helpful to the person, I can see where any of them might conceal an underlying inherited or acquired `mistunement' that AI could help bring back into balance.
Hope that helps explain the question.
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Hi all!
It's still LP, but with a new tag name finally!
Left lyme behind as light has filled it's place in multiple ways!
My very first post stated that I did not want to have lyme as part of my identity, and that my goal was to remove it and celebrate the day I was able to change my name!
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Does this mean we can eat cake?
No? Well, heck, let's celebrate anyway!
Congrats, LP. This is indeed wonderful news!
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Hi Gigi, Thanks for posting your friends experience. What Illnesses is she dealing with? Lyme and co etc?
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I totally agree with Hobo's feelings. I am tickled you changed to Light! That is one of the themes I have gotten into hot water for, here on this board in years past. Why would anyone want to call themselves by a name that really at first glance has taken over some of our lives in a bad way. Second glance, I don't think so; I think we grow.
Everything starts with a thought. I am quite certain that a real disease or the fear of a disease becomes so much a part of us that it is difficult to shed it, physically or mentally. HG has to wipe it off our memory board - in form of correcting the polarity, long after we have any infection remaining. The thought and the constant fear is almost as bad as having it for real. I don't think of it anymore and have not for a long time.
From my own experience and having met hundreds of patients of Dr. K., Lyme cannot be dealt with satisfactorily unless all other problems are dealt with. It's a package that catapulted into Lyme. I am getting closer and closer to the idea that had I had the benefit of AI years ago, my life would have taken a different turn and Lyme would never have taken ON or OVER my body.
But then again, just think what we would have all missed! I made some wonderful friends, and the negatives that have been dished out to me fall off like raindrops down the umbrella. Or my dogs fur coat - shake it off!
I choose to make it a good day!
Take care.
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Awww..Gigi this is so sweet. and thank you for sharing Karens story. Absolutely, it begins with thought and fear. But sometimes i think the bugs and toxins create this environment, like they live synergistically together. This the link for the mesenchyme.. http://www.powersolution.org/ Gigi, do you think this would interefere with AI? Is it ok to be on adrenal support? I am curious like the post above from Truthfinder. could taking these supplements interfere with reading regulations in the body by masking? I feel like i messed up with my initial reading wth AI bc i was on homeopathics. i am not just on AI and binders. I will write Dr. G next time and tell him. I stopped everyting nearly a month ago. I am more encouraged now.. Runner
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Also, i want my mom to do this therapy. She is sick and dosnt know it. She has amalgams, Gigi, What do you think about the amalgam issue? should they be removed after AI?
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Light parfait, like the new name and like even more the improvement in your health that heralded it: good for you!
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The first paragraph below this, is AI's response to me, in German. I tried in the next paragraph to translate what they said. The third paragraph is my own added interpretation of what I have been told numerous times. If you read their website, you will run into the same type comments again and again.
"Unsere Therapie ist v�llig unabh�ngig davon, was die Leute einnehmen. Sie arbeitet ohnehin auf einer v�llig anderen Ebene. All die Dinge die eingenommen werden versuchen ja bekanntlich auf und �ber die materielle Ebene eine Ver�nderung zu erwirken. F�r mich jedoch hoffnungslos, wenn der zugrundeliegende Fehler vererbt ist. Dann ist die Handlung daraus f�r den K�rper v�llig normal. Die Leute k�nnen also einnehmen, essen und trinken was sie wollen oder f�r gut empfinden."
``Our therapy is totally independent from what the people take. It really works on a totally different level (the information level). All the things that are being taken are obviously in an attempt to cause a change via the material level. That in my opinion is hopeless, if the underlying error is inherited. At that point, how the body deals with it becomes completely normal. So the people can take, eat and drink what they want or consider good.''
He has not only written the above to me as posted, he has repeated it Many times when I called them to ask. My further understanding of what he said is this:
In other words, it does not affect the testing. It doesn't ``mask'' and it doesn't change the test. The only thing that happens is that, if what we take is not absolutely the right stuff which the body knows to handle, we are adding to the ``burden''. Most are highly concentrated and not natural. How many more different manmade materials are we asking our body to identify. It is struggling now and letting us know that. If the body were to recognize and identify the stuff, it would be ready with the proper enzymes to utilize the materials. More and more it is not able to do that and the body starts to act like a pressure cooker without a release valve.
Take care.
Runner, If I had known about AI when my first problems surfaced when I was a lot younger, I would have done AI with a wait-and-see attitude re amalgams. They cannot be removed without moving the mercury around in the system, and that causes problems as long as the dysregulation for the heavy metals is present. I have asked this question from AI - their comment is the same. Not a good idea as long as there are metal and all the other dysregulations are there.
Maybe after AI, the body knows how to deal with the heavy metals? Who knows.
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I stopped all extra supplements (KPU Protocol) except for occasional binders as of a week ago.
As I am feeling well, I do not need to take other things at this time, even if a test says I am lacking someting.
I am learning how to know the difference of what my body lacks, versus what it needs to move toward healing.
Please come down on me hard if I start posting another therapy I am doing before this is over...unless I get really ill again! Or get swine flu etc...
I will wait out the AI therapy, and evaluate my condition at the completion.
I'm tired of being wishy washy. I just want to "be".
It seems like there has not been a time I can remember not taking something to feel better or taking care of some ailment. It is just a normal way of life for me to be pro active health wise!
It's so hard to relax mentally when I have been conditioned to always take something to get better! It's an internal fear of thinking something will happen because of my weakened immune system if I let down my guard and not take care of every little thing.
Even seeing those nasty parasites! I will only use natural food products...to try to keep them at bay until finish my AI!
The lingering lupus has taken me captive in this area...but I am releasing it's hold but will still be on guard.
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Anyone's opinion if grapefruit pectin is a good binder?
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Thank you Gigi for your explanation..it was stated beautifully..and now i can really understand. I wish i could speak German so i could communicate my apprecition to Dr. G. and the AI people.
LP, i just want to ackowledge you for changing your name. it seems like some positive changes are happening for you internally and that is great..
Take care, Runner
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Hobo, am pretty sure there is a difference in soluble fibers vs. insoluable fibers. In a cancer clinic in the 1990, using apple pectin for similar reasons as we are, it was always apple pectin. It remained so when Dr. K. picked up on it - it was always recommended to take apple pectin for what we are using it - catching the metal debris and other neurotoxin debris for fast transport o u t ....
I have found the most reasonable apple pectin at Life Extension using the powder, not in capsules. You get a lot more for your money and can mix it into fruits, apples, anything, creating deserts. A 1/4 teaspoon or thereabouts goes a long way.
Take care.
Take care.
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